it isn't real
everyone who complains about "being cancelled" has continued their careers unabated, usually making more money grifting the right-wing
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Carl [he/him] - 2w
Even Bill Cosby was selling out shows right up until he went to prison, and his cancellation by the US government only lasted three years before he was back out. Pretty much the only people whose cancellations "stick" are either Harvey Weinstein himself or small online creators whose entire fanbase heavily overlaps with Twitter users, and even that latter group can usually post through it if their fanbase is white and male enough.
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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 2w
Except Kevin Spacey which is really funny to me
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Cysio - 2w
Because he was gay
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Horse {they/them} - 2w
didn't some of his accusers mysteriously die?
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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 2w
Yeah that rings a bell
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p0ntyp00l - 2w
he was the sacrificial goat and I'm pretty sure he even said as much in one of those cringe Christmas videos he makes.
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Large Bullfrog - 2w
I loath the term itself because I associate it's use with right wingers with delusions of themselves being oppressed underdogs.
As for "Cancel Culture" itself, to me it feels the epitome of a first world problem. If you are famous enough or engaged with social media enough to get cancelled you are probably better off learning how to chill by yourself anyway.
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shath [comrade/them] - 2w
wish it worked
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demerit - 2w
"Cancel culture" applies not to white/bourgeois racist/rapist/sexist but to communists & anti-imperialist people. You get cancelled by being pro-palestine (literally unpersoned and sanctioned) in countries like Germany, but "canceled" celebs get a whole new audience & platform.
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huf [he/him] - 2w
“THERE were two “Reigns of Cancel Culture,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Cancel Culture, the momentary Cancel Culture, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Cancel Culture which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all the world could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Cancel Culture—that unspeakably bitter and awful Cancel Culture which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”
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darkernations - 2w
A Mark Twain twist! Good one!
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huf [he/him] - 2w
yeah, but also, discussions of cancel culture always seem to focus on those extremely rare events where less powerful people occasionally manage to discomfit the powers that be, and basically never about all the rest of history, a lot of which was a constant repressive cancel culture applied to the powerless
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darkernations - 2w
Market Freedoms ™
Jest aside; it's a tool that could be used and abused, for us it is how it could be used for anti-imperialism and proleteriat defense
Intersectionalism and critical theory have been superceded by dialectical materialism
It is superfluous to consider the gravity of cancel culture when we have the west censoring and giving political cover to genocide and ethnic cleansing; and also cancelling at every possible insitution level - governance to academia to news media - anything considered real threat to Western hegemony (eg: Stalin died about 70 years ago, even the West has to concede he helped defeat the Nazis; now try to get a publication published in mainstream acadaemia that may be remotely considered "pro-stalinism" and let me know how that works out for you, and whether you still have a job or a credit rating).
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2w
Some people definitely deserved to get cancelled from life, especially predators.
On the other hand it is clear as day that the neolib would do anything to pretend they care about black people, women and gays. Oftentime the cancelling is just pinkwashing
UminekoEnjoyer in asklemmygrad
What are your thoughts on "Cancel Culture"?
it isn't real
everyone who complains about "being cancelled" has continued their careers unabated, usually making more money grifting the right-wing
Even Bill Cosby was selling out shows right up until he went to prison, and his cancellation by the US government only lasted three years before he was back out. Pretty much the only people whose cancellations "stick" are either Harvey Weinstein himself or small online creators whose entire fanbase heavily overlaps with Twitter users, and even that latter group can usually post through it if their fanbase is white and male enough.
Except Kevin Spacey which is really funny to me
Because he was gay
didn't some of his accusers mysteriously die?
Yeah that rings a bell
he was the sacrificial goat and I'm pretty sure he even said as much in one of those cringe Christmas videos he makes.
I loath the term itself because I associate it's use with right wingers with delusions of themselves being oppressed underdogs.
As for "Cancel Culture" itself, to me it feels the epitome of a first world problem. If you are famous enough or engaged with social media enough to get cancelled you are probably better off learning how to chill by yourself anyway.
wish it worked
"Cancel culture" applies not to white/bourgeois racist/rapist/sexist but to communists & anti-imperialist people. You get cancelled by being pro-palestine (literally unpersoned and sanctioned) in countries like Germany, but "canceled" celebs get a whole new audience & platform.
A Mark Twain twist! Good one!
yeah, but also, discussions of cancel culture always seem to focus on those extremely rare events where less powerful people occasionally manage to discomfit the powers that be, and basically never about all the rest of history, a lot of which was a constant repressive cancel culture applied to the powerless
Market Freedoms ™
Jest aside; it's a tool that could be used and abused, for us it is how it could be used for anti-imperialism and proleteriat defense
Regarding idpol (summary: we should lean into identitarianism): https://redsails.org/on-identitarianism-a-defense-of-a-strawman/
Intersectionalism and critical theory have been superceded by dialectical materialism
It is superfluous to consider the gravity of cancel culture when we have the west censoring and giving political cover to genocide and ethnic cleansing; and also cancelling at every possible insitution level - governance to academia to news media - anything considered real threat to Western hegemony (eg: Stalin died about 70 years ago, even the West has to concede he helped defeat the Nazis; now try to get a publication published in mainstream acadaemia that may be remotely considered "pro-stalinism" and let me know how that works out for you, and whether you still have a job or a credit rating).
Some people definitely deserved to get cancelled from life, especially predators.
On the other hand it is clear as day that the neolib would do anything to pretend they care about black people, women and gays. Oftentime the cancelling is just pinkwashing