It's like when you have two things, and the more two things don't like each other the more dialectically materialist it is...right? (/s)
I'll educate myself soon. Been a bit busy but that textbook Luna Oi translated should help
Evilsandwichman [none/use name] - 3w
Wait, isn't dialectic materialism when people are like materialist but because we're all from like different places we have our own dialects? So basically people can be materialist with a cockney dialect, Southern Italian dialect, Northern France dialect, etc
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Cat_Daddy [any, any] - 3w
And we're materialists because I am a material girl
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Collatz_problem [comrade/them] - 3w
IMO, dialectical materialism is Marx and Engels trying to explain systemic analysis and feedback loops before those terms were invented and the only language available was philosophic Hegelian bullshit.
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deathtoreddit - 3w
In anti Duhring, all I know of dialectics is an example, you have the original stance of something like a seed, then the seed is negated in form as it turns into a plant, and eventually the plant matures fully and reproduces, spreading seeds that would form into more plants and seeds and it thus repeats.
But yeah, maybe this one works.
Original form > negation > negation of negation and it repeats on and on and on
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cwtshycwtsh - 3w
I love that seed example.
It can easily be used with other topics too, like why we don’t describe an adult as a baby, that’s why we also don’t describe a trans person how they were born, but how they are now. At some point we all have been just tiny cells, right? But look at us now! We have fingers and all. How cool is that!
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Evilsandwichman [none/use name] - 3w
Oh did you notice that too? It was so totally Hegelian systemic analysis loops!
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darkernations - 3w
Doesn't dialectical materialism subsume systemic analysis/feedback loops ie revealing direction of change and teleology, going beyond positivism to reveal a deeper science?
(Book recommendation - Hegel and the Freedom of the Moderns by Losurdo)
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darkernations - 2w
Dialectical materialism = a way of analysis that focuses on contradictions as engines driving change in a given direction to produce a deeper science. Dialetics allows us to understand relationships and materialism grounds it in reality. It is teleological, not positivist and is the enemy of idealism.
^That's the quickest summary of DM I can think of so far and I wonder what I will change from that definition years into the future.
(You highlighted an important need for marxists to deeply understand theory and therefore I am revisiting what I have learned about DM starting with Stalin's famous essay then dashthered's essay then Losurdo's book on Hegel and Freedom of the Moderns. Previously I started with Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy and then a bunch of Redsails.org articles. The latter two are really good resources but I want to try a fresh approach here)
King_Simp in genzedong
It's like when you have two things, and the more two things don't like each other the more dialectically materialist it is...right? (/s)
I'll educate myself soon. Been a bit busy but that textbook Luna Oi translated should help
Wait, isn't dialectic materialism when people are like materialist but because we're all from like different places we have our own dialects? So basically people can be materialist with a cockney dialect, Southern Italian dialect, Northern France dialect, etc
And we're materialists because I am a material girl
IMO, dialectical materialism is Marx and Engels trying to explain systemic analysis and feedback loops before those terms were invented and the only language available was philosophic Hegelian bullshit.
In anti Duhring, all I know of dialectics is an example, you have the original stance of something like a seed, then the seed is negated in form as it turns into a plant, and eventually the plant matures fully and reproduces, spreading seeds that would form into more plants and seeds and it thus repeats.
But yeah, maybe this one works.
Original form > negation > negation of negation and it repeats on and on and on
I love that seed example.
It can easily be used with other topics too, like why we don’t describe an adult as a baby, that’s why we also don’t describe a trans person how they were born, but how they are now. At some point we all have been just tiny cells, right? But look at us now! We have fingers and all. How cool is that!
Oh did you notice that too? It was so totally Hegelian systemic analysis loops!
Doesn't dialectical materialism subsume systemic analysis/feedback loops ie revealing direction of change and teleology, going beyond positivism to reveal a deeper science?
(Book recommendation - Hegel and the Freedom of the Moderns by Losurdo)
Dialectical materialism = a way of analysis that focuses on contradictions as engines driving change in a given direction to produce a deeper science. Dialetics allows us to understand relationships and materialism grounds it in reality. It is teleological, not positivist and is the enemy of idealism.
^That's the quickest summary of DM I can think of so far and I wonder what I will change from that definition years into the future.
(You highlighted an important need for marxists to deeply understand theory and therefore I am revisiting what I have learned about DM starting with Stalin's famous essay then dashthered's essay then Losurdo's book on Hegel and Freedom of the Moderns. Previously I started with Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy and then a bunch of Redsails.org articles. The latter two are really good resources but I want to try a fresh approach here)