It's kind of scary that most people genuinely do not know:
What fascism actually is
What Nazism is beyond "killing Jews"
What Eugenics and social Darwinism actually is (and why it's flawed pseudoscience)
Which is why you get wild takes like "OK the right-wing just want to demonize any outgroup they can, ban LGBT and end welfare for the disabled, but calling them Nazis just because you disagree with them is silly."
Or the idea that extinction is natures way of culling the weak (it's way more nuanced, contextual and complicated than that).
Some of these fucked up ideals even liberals or even leftists parrot or misunderstand.
Shits fucked up. I think if when the commies win, the first thing we have to do when the dust clears is make sure people know what the hell things actually mean. You can't have a functioning society unless people can make informed decisions about the world around them.
JustSo [she/her, any] - 2w
Most libs think the anglosphere joined ww2 to stop the holocaust.
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moss_icon [comrade/them] - 2w
I hate interacting with other British people for the same reason.
“Sure 88% of Reform voters want to put immigrants into literal concentration camps, but you can’t just call everyone you disagree with Nazis!!!”
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LeninWeave [none/use name, any] - 2w
88%
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Civility [none/use name] - 2w
😤
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JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them] - 2w
First they came for the communist, then the socialists, then the trade unionists.
Speaking from my past experience, most Americans literally do not see a link there. Zinn got me on my way to understanding class warfare but Parenti was the nail in the coffin.
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Trying2KnowMyself [they/them, comrade/them] - 2w
I once made the mistake of calling a family member a Nazi in front of other family members.
They’re literally openly antisemitic.
I haven’t made that mistake with the ones who aren’t openly antisemitic. Yet.
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GrouchyGrouse [he/him] - 2w
The problems caused by that one flawed wolf study are legion and that whole wolf debacle is just one of many in a long history of pseudoscience.
Capitalism has us all so fucked up a bunch of people just say they like science as a way of saying they like consumer products. It will be an uphill struggle to maintain our terms while the capitalists are free to use language to mislead and manipulate.
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Dort_Owl [they/them, any] - 2w
a bunch of people just say they like science as a way of saying they like consumer products.
I've noticed that there has been a swing in basically accusing anyone who doesn't like the latest products of being "old man yelling at cloud" or against progress in some way (as if technology is a straight line). Ageism is still socially acceptable so it's the new outgroup target to be like "Oh you don't like this thing that capitalism is making worse? What a boomer."
It's also pretty fucked when you realize that this also targets poor people who can't afford the latest thing.
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 2w
There has been more time and money spent on this in the last 80 years than almost anything else if you take a broad enough look at things. First they came for the communists, then they came for the trade unionists, THEN they came for the Jews. So they did the real goal of fascism and then after they got that handled they went after perceived enemies based on senseless bigotry, that is the firsr sign of fascism turning inward. They defeated their enemies and then turned to a minority to scapegoat. It's no coincidence that the liberal view on racism begins and ends with scapegoating. Hitler wanted to kill the jews and thats all he was about, dont worry about everyone else he killed cause that may hit too close to home. It reduces racism down a feeling which was a double convenience after the war where you csn do an operation paperclip and keep fucking over black people and feel literally no dissonance.
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BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them] - 2w
If people were accurately taught about fascism they would see how it marbles all of liberal capitalism
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Anarcho-Bolshevik - 2w
Capitalist education oversimplifies fascism both to obscure its commonalities with contemporary capitalism and to make neofascism harder to identify. If ordinary people are utterly oblivious to how the phenomena of capital, the law of value, and generalized commodity production only intensified under fascism, and believe that fascism is merely an action like inhibiting somebody for having the wrong opinion, then they can neither identify nor abolish the phenomena that gave rise to fascism.
the first thing we have to do when the dust clears is make sure people know what the hell things actually mean.
Yes, but we can also try that before the revolution, surely.
Dort_Owl in chat
It's kind of scary that most people genuinely do not know:
What fascism actually is
What Nazism is beyond "killing Jews"
What Eugenics and social Darwinism actually is (and why it's flawed pseudoscience)
Which is why you get wild takes like "OK the right-wing just want to demonize any outgroup they can, ban LGBT and end welfare for the disabled, but calling them Nazis just because you disagree with them is silly."
Or the idea that extinction is natures way of culling the weak (it's way more nuanced, contextual and complicated than that).
Some of these fucked up ideals even liberals or even leftists parrot or misunderstand.
Shits fucked up. I think
ifwhen the commies win, the first thing we have to do when the dust clears is make sure people know what the hell things actually mean. You can't have a functioning society unless people can make informed decisions about the world around them.Most libs think the anglosphere joined ww2 to stop the holocaust.
I hate interacting with other British people for the same reason.
“Sure 88% of Reform voters want to put immigrants into literal concentration camps, but you can’t just call everyone you disagree with Nazis!!!”
😤
First they came for the communist, then the socialists, then the trade unionists.
Speaking from my past
experience, most Americans literally do not see a link there. Zinn got me on my way to understanding class warfare but Parenti was the nail in the coffin. 
I once made the mistake of calling a family member a Nazi in front of other family members.
They’re literally openly antisemitic.
I haven’t made that mistake with the ones who aren’t openly antisemitic. Yet.
The problems caused by that one flawed wolf study are legion and that whole wolf debacle is just one of many in a long history of pseudoscience.
Capitalism has us all so fucked up a bunch of people just say they like science as a way of saying they like consumer products. It will be an uphill struggle to maintain our terms while the capitalists are free to use language to mislead and manipulate.
I've noticed that there has been a swing in basically accusing anyone who doesn't like the latest products of being "old man yelling at cloud" or against progress in some way (as if technology is a straight line). Ageism is still socially acceptable so it's the new outgroup target to be like "Oh you don't like this thing that capitalism is making worse? What a boomer."
It's also pretty fucked when you realize that this also targets poor people who can't afford the latest thing.
There has been more time and money spent on this in the last 80 years than almost anything else if you take a broad enough look at things. First they came for the communists, then they came for the trade unionists, THEN they came for the Jews. So they did the real goal of fascism and then after they got that handled they went after perceived enemies based on senseless bigotry, that is the firsr sign of fascism turning inward. They defeated their enemies and then turned to a minority to scapegoat. It's no coincidence that the liberal view on racism begins and ends with scapegoating. Hitler wanted to kill the jews and thats all he was about, dont worry about everyone else he killed cause that may hit too close to home. It reduces racism down a feeling which was a double convenience after the war where you csn do an operation paperclip and keep fucking over black people and feel literally no dissonance.
If people were accurately taught about fascism they would see how it marbles all of liberal capitalism
Capitalist education oversimplifies fascism both to obscure its commonalities with contemporary capitalism and to make neofascism harder to identify. If ordinary people are utterly oblivious to how the phenomena of capital, the law of value, and generalized commodity production only intensified under fascism, and believe that fascism is merely an action like inhibiting somebody for having the wrong opinion, then they can neither identify nor abolish the phenomena that gave rise to fascism.
Yes, but we can also try that before the revolution, surely.