Disabled Community Megathread - November 11th, 2024 to November 17th, 2024
Unfortunately I don't have the energy to put together some info for the mega this week, hopefully I can pull together something for next week though. As always, we ask that in order to participate in the weekly megathread, one self-identifies as some form of disabled, which is broadly defined in the community sidebar:
"Disability" is an umbrella term which encompasses physical disabilities, emotional/psychiatric disabilities, neurodivergence, intellectual/developmental disabilities, sensory disabilities, invisible disabilities, and more. You do not have to have an official diagnosis to consider yourself disabled.
Mask up, love one another, and stay alive for one more week.
Blockocheese [any] - 1.1yr
Ablebodied peoples idea of what ableism is is so performative and out of touch
Like they'll tone police but won't wear a fucking mask
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
"You need to vote for harm-reduction Harris!!" they shout at us, from their unmasked faces.
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AdmiralDoohickey @lemmygrad.ml - 1.1yr
I talked with some union people at my workplace, and I asked them if they plan to resist the full return to office that is coming. I shit you not, they welcomed the news (they were clueless) because "we will communicate and work better" [sic].
They only really care about their higher wages and people like me can fuck off and die I guess. I don't know why I expected solidarity from neurotypicals. It's shit like this that completely discourages me from organizing
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 1.1yr
I am currently in "dead fish flopping about gasping for air" mode. I'm lying flat almost all hours of the day unless I manage to somehow force myself into a sitting position (usually just to eat food). I've been skipping most of my classes because I'm too tired to crawl out of bed, let alone get myself across campus and into a chair where I have to sit upright for over an hour. I'm brain fogged to the point where trying to do anything besides watching mindless videos is too much exertion for me. I hate this so much. I feel utterly useless because in my current state, I essentially am useless. Every day is a drag yet also too quick at the same time. I just wish I had my old energy back.
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
that sounds awful.
how have your teachers been? are they being understanding about your struggles?
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Beetle [hy/hym] - 1.1yr
Awful fucking illness. Sending virtual hugs.
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hexbee [she/her] - 1.1yr
Feeling useless stings so bad, I'm so sorry you're going through this
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autism_2 [any, it/its] - 1.1yr
Living is a job I can't clock out of why is everything so hard
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m532 [she/her] - 1.1yr
I want all "it was just a prank" excuses to be invalid forever. It has ableist implications IF it is genuine, which it NEVER EVER IS, so its just reactionaries being cowards
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Luna - 1.1yr
I hate being reminded of the fact that I can't perform fine motor functions. I've gotten used to it when journaling, even though I can't really read my handwriting, but I was trying to do a lab today and just kept fumbling and messing up the setup. I couldn't help but constantly apologize to my lab partners almost constantly, and once they finished with their portions they had to help with mine, and I essentially had to step back and do other parts of the lab work. Ugh
Too autistic for the autistics strikes again
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hexbee [she/her] - 1.1yr
Bless you, I find it's hard to not put myself down when I'm not able to do things that seem so simple for those around me
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Luna - 1.1yr
Hi y'all
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Blockocheese [any] - 1.1yr
Hiii
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Anvil_Lavigne [she/her, they/them] - 1.1yr
u receive : back problems & nerve pain
i receive : hug
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aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I've already got back problems and nerve pain, what now?
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Anvil_Lavigne [she/her, they/them] - 1.1yr
hmm. maybe it's like a krenko, mob boss situation where ur just producing more of the same at an explosive rate? maybe u would become a superhero; the proportional hurdles of two disabled people!!!
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AdmiralDoohickey @lemmygrad.ml - 1.1yr
My workplace intends to enforce full return to office to improve our discipline, meaning no scheduled remote days but we might be able to get some as needed? Not clear enough.
This is probably going to destroy me, I don't know if it is some autism sensitivity but office days tire me to the extent that even with 3/5, I often feel so miserable that I take a paid leave just to not go there. I don't understand how neurotypicals do it every day, it seems impossible to me
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
the doctor agreed that EDS testing was worthwhile and referred me to a geneticist š
and I only cried a little bit during the appointment so ššš š
she was mostly very nice, but there were a couple of moments where I could feel her getting skeptical and I started getting overwhelmed, and I'm very glad I had the pleasantly stoic @shadowinlight@hexbear.net along to jump in to help explain things
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
Unfortunately I don't have the energy to put together some info for the mega this week
First published in 1999, the groundbreaking Exile and Pride is essential to the history and future of disability politics. Eli Clare's revelatory writing about his experiences as a white disabled genderqueer activist/writer established him as one of the leading writers on the intersections of queerness and disability and permanently changed the landscape of disability politics and queer liberation. With a poet's devotion to truth and an activist's demand for justice, Clare deftly unspools the multiple histories from which our ever-evolving sense of self unfolds. His essays weave together memoir, history, and political thinking to explore meanings and experiences of home: home as place, community, bodies, identity, and activism. Here readers will find an intersectional framework for understanding how we actually live with the daily hydraulics of oppression, power, and resistance. At the root of Clare's exploration of environmental destruction and capitalism, sexuality and institutional violence, gender and the body politic, is a call for social justice movements that are truly accessible to everyone. With heart and hammer, Exile and Pride pries open a window onto a world where our whole selves, in all their complexity, can be realized, loved, and embraced.
If you like the sound of it, you're welcome to copy this along with the links into the body of your post as a substitute for other content. If you do I'll delete this comment so it's not clogging up the mega unnecessarily.
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joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
Folks, this is it... I finally got prescribed Vyvanse after six months of just fucking around with Wellbutrin! I'm super excited and eager to see what happens!
But that's not what I'm here for right now. I've been playing with a story in my head for a very long time and I really want to start writing it. The thing is, the way I envision one of the characters includes the fact that she's hard of hearing. I want to be as respectful as possible of such a person's life experience and I want to research what everyday life is like for someone with impaired hearing. Can you folks suggest any sources for me to do some reading up on the topic? Anyone who talks about their life without hearing? Any interesting stories with a deaf/hard of hearing main character?
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I can't believe this. I'm booked in to have a minor surgery on my feet to clear up infected skin that has failed to respond to other treatments. It's on the NHS so the surgery is free, but they just told me I have to pay for a pack of dressings to take home (as the wound needs the dressing changed every day and the pack apparently contains something to keep the dressings dry in the shower.) This pack is bloody £37, and I have to buy two as both my feet are having the surgery. I can't be the only one who thinks these packs should be free along with the surgery? And where am I supposed to get £74 while going through a benefit appeal? Just when I think life can't get worse, it finds a way. Being ill/disabled is so bloody expensive!
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Beetle [hy/hym] - 1.1yr
Of course they should be free, thatās ridiculous. Maybe comrades in the mutual aid com can help you out.
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I'm worried about accepting money though, because the DWP are checking people's bank accounts and I don't know how I'd explain why someone was putting money in my account.
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Beetle [hy/hym] - 1.1yr
Oh thatās fucked up Iām sorry
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
do the dressings have to come from them, or could you take others in with you and have them verified as sufficient?
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
She said I can just buy them off amazon, but that doesn't help, because I've checked on there and they are just as expensive and I don't have any money at all. However someone on here gave me the idea to ask if my medical exemption certificate would entitle me to free dressings, so I've sent them an email about that and I'm waiting to hear back.
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
if that doesn't work out, let us know. I know we had a hard time finding someone who could help you with an Amazon purchase because accounts don't cross regions, but we can try again. ā¤ļø
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
Thanks. x
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
i have to go out today. i've had horrible neck pain for days but there is medication at the end of the drive if i can manage it that will help. and gotta get food n stuff too. but it's so frustrating. life is constantly like need x to do y, need to do y in order to acquire x
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Kiagz [she/her] - 1.1yr
Been on 20mg ritalin for about a week now, and I'm still struggling just as much as before Learned about a different type of ADHD treatment called interactive metronome, and I might try that if the medications don't work out.
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Ivysaur - 1.1yr
Really feeling the call of the abyss lately. How can I have hope for anything when we can't clear the very simple bar of pandemic mitigation? I'm so tired.
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 1.1yr
Feeling a lot of the same feelings these days. I always strive for revolutionary optimism, but well, it can be hard sometimes.
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Blockocheese [any] - 1.1yr
In my mind I like fall/winter but my mental and physical health really don't
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Blockocheese [any] - 1.1yr
A lot of my hobbies are more popular with older people and it does hurt my heart a little when I see that they can do them more often and for longer periods of time than I can :/
For some reason after I wrote the ":/" the first suggested word in my phone was "gangstalking" lmao
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Luna - 1.1yr
I'm considering the fact that I'm some sort of strange AuDHD intovert/extrovert. Like, I'm exhausted after doing things with others, but is that just because I'm doing stuff? Because when I'm not masking, I seem to gain energy by being with others. Even taking the time to post more today, and I notice I'm not super exhausted right now, at the end of the day when I usually am by this time.
Don't mind me, just a walking contradiction that keeps racking up contradictions the more time goes on
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AdmiralDoohickey @lemmygrad.ml - 1.1yr
Is introversion even a real thing? I am starting to believe all introverts are just masked autistics because of ky experience that is similar to yours
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
I finally got to get back to FNB this last weekend and we all hung out and talked a bit after we ran out of food(always a good sign) and I feel like a super judgey bastard because, originally, I was like "I'm probably the furthest left person here." I guess I was just going on internal biases due to where I live, but turns out, a lot of those running it are anarchists and other flavor of socialst. I was both humbled and extremely happy that I got to shoot the shit about the current political climate with handful of IRL legit socialists. I love it. I'm a bit shamed that I just assumed. But I was in the presence of people that have been at this since the 90s. Super fucking humbling.
Also we are all introverts that suffer from major social anxiety lol.
One of them that I actually met a few weeks ago at my vegan food truck place, was introducing me to her friend and threw me off because she asked me for my pronouns. Def not used to that IRL because I'm pretty male presenting but it was the first time I got to try out "he/him but sometimes they" since I've been doing some personal soul searching and think I might be demi or agender. I've always been male presenting cishet but I've also never really cared about my gender all that much and do "girly stuff" that I like. And a lot of "guy stuff" I kind of hate. I'm not really sure where I land but I'm gonna talk more with my therapist this week about it and try to figure it out. I might just be suffering from patriarchal bullshit.
Other than that I do have training officially lined up for this weekend so we might have a tiny bit of financial security coming soon. I have a job interview for that Facebook/Meta for a software position that I'm still hoping to get some study time in on. I'm not really qualified for it but I'm not gonna turn it down if they offer it to me. Not gonna keep my hope up though because I can't really afford to do that mentally anymore.
Anyway, I hope everyone's week goes great. Politics right now is a fuck so don't forget to take care of yourselves.
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QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer] - 1.1yr
Thatās nice. I hope to find cool people like that again.
Gender isnāt real. My theory is that when we autists reflect on the idea our bottom up processing makes it easy to experience that emptiness, whereas NTs will project their social standards and absorbed ideas as truth. Nothing is bad about not caring about your presentation and such, but if you find that the patriarchal mold has constrained you and trying other things makes you happier then thatās great too.
Good luck.
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
I'm basically a gender abolitionist but I hesitate to say that even in disabled spaces. I mentioned as much in one of the many weekly "I don't feel like my assigned gender" posts on /r/autism and someone got all spicy saying "here we go with patriarchy bad again" and I just didn't have the energy for it lol. They were trying to defend gender from the perspective of feminism activism, but like if the patriarchy didn't exist, social constructs like gender wouldn't exist, therefore, we wouldn't have a need for activism in the way it exists currently. Basically gender is a tool by the patriarchy to arbitrarily assign oppression to certain classes in society and now I can't paint my fingernails pink without chuds side-eyeing me lol.
But that's all to say I don't really wanna minimize our comrades who are on their own gender journeys. I just want people to be allowed to be happy as the people they are. I just think I'm sometimes kinda "girly" feeling but I donno what that means.
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
I think we're on the same page but I just want to gently remind you that for some people, gender is really really important. Like, critical to their survival and something they have fought upstream against society for over many years of suffering and hardship.
I'm enbie and to me, on a personal level, gender is genuinely unimportant to my own identity but when I talk about the abolition of gender I try to frame it in terms of something like abolishing enforced gender or abolishing gender norms because I don't want to unintentionally signal to anyone, least of all to certain trans comrades, that I'm coming to steal their gender from them. All I want is for gender to be optional and based on exactly how the individual feels at that particular moment; you can look how you want, you can act how you prefer, and you can be the gender(s) that you feel and none of these things have to "align" and anybody who tries to tell you that you aren't permitted to do something/that you have to do something/that you're doing it wrong can go straight to hell because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.
I get how it feels because for myself, my experience of my own gender is summed up by one big fucking meh. But I can't univeralise my own experience of being gender's distant acquaintance and I absolutely do not want to replace gender normativity with agender normativity since that's just gonna be the same shit, different texture for plenty of people, especially trans people, for whom gender really does matter. I'm coming for the normativity; I'm not coming for your gender.
but like if the patriarchy didn't exist, social constructs like gender wouldn't exist
I don't want to get into the weeds on the ontology of the social construct of gender here however one thing that's important to me is drawing upon Foucault's concept of reverse discourse, especially to do with the term queer; without cishet-normativity, the label queer would not exist. However the original discourse of the label has been subverted and it has been thoroughly reclaimed as a symbol of pride, of unity, and ultimately of power across the queer community. With this in mind, I think the reclamation of the term queer has been even more radical than it would have been if we simply managed to abolish its use from our culture.
So, for the people who are engaging in a parallel sort of reclamation of gender on a personal level, because for most/all of their upbringing they had faced a constant barrage of proscriptive gender norms from all angles, they bore down against that great and terrible dragon of gender normativity whose scales glittered with the accretion of a thousand years' of gender normative valuesāeach scale being inscribed with a gendered "Thou shalt!"āand they managed to fucking slay that dragon with a resounding and triumphant "I am!"... I have to ask myself, are these not the people who embody the very same spirit of revolutionary reclamation that I described above?
In my opinion, if you slay that dragon then you get to do whatever you want with the dragon's spoils. You are the hero in this story; I'm not going to deny you the glory that is by rights yours.
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
but I just want to gently remind you that for some people, gender is really really important.
Absolutely. That's why I don't want to step on the toes of people who are in that camp. Their gender identity is as important to me as it is to them. Something that stuck out with that gender accelerationist manifesto is that just because we may strive for gender abolition, doesn't mean gender identity will go away, it just means it will not longer be a tool to be used by the ruling class(of course ideally the ruling class will be gone) in order to put us in arbitrary boxes. My genderness is gonna be completely different to the next person's genderness. I don't wanna seem like I'm coming as if I'm saying someone's else's genderness is pointless or anything. Apologies to anyone that might have read it that way.
I'm enbie and to me, on a personal level, gender is genuinely unimportant to my own identity but when I talk about the abolition of gender I try to frame it in terms of something like abolishing enforced gender or abolishing gender norms because I don't want to unintentionally signal to anyone, least of all to certain trans comrades, that I'm coming to steal their gender from them. All I want is for gender to be optional and based on exactly how the individual feels at that particular moment; you can look how you want, you can act how you prefer, and you can be the gender(s) that you feel and none of these things have to "align" and anybody who tries to tell you that you aren't permitted to do something/that you have to do something/that you're doing it wrong can go straight to hell because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.
Ok it does sound we are on the same page :)
because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.
I have Foucault on my list to read but it probably won't be for a year or 2 because of how backlogged I am but now I'm eager. And you dragon analogy is powerful. I guess at the end of the day, just because my genderness isn't that important to me(I'm probably 60% AGAB and 40% meh, for comparison) doesn't mean others' gender identity should be invalidated.
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
Yeah, we're on the same page. In that case, excuse my yapping.
I have Foucault on my list to read but it probably won't be for a year or 2 because of how backlogged I am but now I'm eager.
I'm conflicted about Foucault tbh. But at the end of the day his thought is very influential and there are some useful tools to add to the toolkit which his work provides so even if you don't agree with everything or you take issue with certain things, it's still very useful to read Foucault.
And you dragon analogy is powerful.
I have to confess that's really just me regurgitating Niezsche from memory and adapting it to gender normativity. I'm sure he'd hate that, which makes it all the better.
I think the Foucault thing got my galaxy brain pinging off of Niezsche so it kinda just came pouring out. Also don't read Niezsche unless you really, really have the burning desire to. There are two types of people who read Niezsche: young, mostly white, men who are edgelords that want a philosophical justification for why they are better than everyone else and dusty old philosophy academics who are sequestered away in some university office building. You aren't either of those two key demographics, thankfully.
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
I have some Nietzsche but it's so low on my list it might as well not be there. I have Thus Spake Zarathustra and maybe some other stuff by him. I'm conflicted on reading him for the same way I am about reading Heidegger since they both have a history with fascism. I do wanna read Being and Time and Heidegger's essay on technology and those are probably first before Nietzsche for sure. But that's all lumped in with my next bout of philosophy. I have this anarchist theory kick I'm on, then revisit Marxist works, then possibly gender and queer theory(not sure what is gonna be in that yet), and I have a neurdivergent block I wanna get to some time in the future so philosophy might be after that? Lol. I need to read more.
I'm sure he'd hate that, which makes it all the better.
Also, this is praxis lol.
For Foucault, I have Disipline and Punish, recommended by a friend. And I grabbed his History of Sexuality vol 1 and 2 because it caught my interest.
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
i think it's important to read broadly. Reading the opposition's theory isn't a bad thing - it's not like you're going to come out of that ideologically tainted, as long as you are a principled radical and you have your shit in order. Learning about fascism from fascist theory can give you insights into fascist thinking and strategy, especially if read critically.
Zarathustra is hard, especially as the entry point. I'd recommend Genealogy of Morality instead tbh. It depends what you want to get out of reading Niezsche because there are comprehensive reading lists to give you a very rich, start-to-finish tour of Niezsche's thought but I suspect that's not gonna be your angle. I recommend Genealogy because, although it is diving into the deep end, it's not as opaque as Zarathustra imo and it's a good thing to read either before Foucault or after as Foucault was directly influenced by Niezsche and especially his genealogical approach (hence The Birth of the Clinic and Archaeology of Knowledge and The Birth of the Prison and of course The History of Sexuality etc.)
and I have a neurdivergent block
Cool! If you're partial to audiobooks, don't sleep on TankieTube - there's a pretty comprehensive catalogue of audiobooks on there now including a narrow but growing selection of neurodivergent audiobooks. Most are professionally recorded audiobooks with the main exception being high quality amateur stuff from Socialism For All.
The three main audiobook channels to recommend are Neurodivergent Audiobook Library and a split between Communist Broadcasting Service which has an array of uploads but of which the audiobooks are mostly the hard end of theory and the kinda "core" communist stuff whereas Book Broadcasting Channel has stuff that tends to fall outside the "core" audiobooks for communist theory. Blackshirts and Reds? Communist Broadcasting Service. Biographies and works about historical labour struggles or prison uprisings and the like? Book Broadcasting Service. The BBC is more eclectic and broader in scope, so there's stuff of interest to materialists and radicals, with a primary focus on history/anthropology/sociology but also some works of fiction that are of relevance like The Grapes of Wrath etc. Or you could just use the search and see what you can dig up. There's plenty more audiobooks on the way, I've just been derelict in my duties to those channels temporarily.
Is a minor point, but it reads ^(to^ ^me)^ like enby = gender is unimportant
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
An important point. I didn't mean to imply that so I've frontloaded the qualifying term and made it so it's very clear that I'm talking about my personal relationship to my own gender with:
I'm enbie and to me, on a personal level, gender is genuinely unimportant to my own identity
Does that read better?
E: There was also another sentence that I wrote poorly and that didn't notice the implications of so I've rewritten it to be very explicit about me talking only about my own experience.
I'm terrible with proofreading my writing lol. I try, I genuinely do try, but goddamn does my mind wander often. I swear every second comment I write on here is edited after I post it because I've made some silly mistake with spelling or grammar along the way. I'm especially bad with changing my phrasing halfway through a sentence and leaving the first half's grammar going one direction and the second half's going in a completely different direction. Good thing it's Hexbear and not an English exam.
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QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer] - 1.1yr
Fascinating. I feel compelled to espouse my abolitionist views whenever someone makes it sound like theyāre seeking a solid place of belonging on an arbitrary spectrum. Iām conscious of our large diversity, but sometimes I forget how many autists are libs. Iād probably end up arguing with those types, but yeah they are can be well intentioned.
To draw a parallel from my special interest: as the Buddha knows most linguistic truths are relative he does not tell everyone there is self or no self. It depends on the person what will be fruitful for their own path. He is wise and knows which relative truth will yield a more functional and productive perspective for those inquiring, and tells them such.
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
I read this last night and was having a hard time coming up with a worthy reply lol. I think my hesitation about being an abolitionist about anything is from pushback I've gotten online. I mentioned one time on /r/latestagecapitalism that I was a money abolitionist and people just weren't having it. Bizarre behavior from a sub that was supposed to be "ran by commies" but in the end I marked it up to libs being on there wanting a reformed government instead, and people that just haven't read any theory. I might have to be more in your face about it to others. I have close friends that are on various paths to the left that probably wouldn't bat an eye if I said I'm a gender abolitionist.
I'm mostly an armchair philosopher and it's somewhat a special interest of mine but more so with how it functions as a foundation to socialism. But I did take a side street into phenomenology and existentialism this summer. With that said, your Buddha line actually weighs quite a bit on some stuff I've been thinking about. Probably not in the Buddhist sense but I've had a really weird relationship with "the self" and I think "ego" because I mostly just feel like a thing in a human suit and I didn't realize that was a thing until I started seeing it get brought up in autism spaces online. It almost feels like there is a conflict between what I am physically and what I am mentally. I'm not spiritual or anything but I just don't know what that conflict is.
I guess this turned into more of a ramble. I'm so confused lol.
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QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer] - 1.1yr
::: spoiler a ramble in return
Thanks for the reply anyway. I think one of the problems may be with figuring how much context other people have and how much you need to give. But, yeah, it is kinda personalized.
I think the core of my special interest is more around ontology and epistemology. Dialectical materialism is the lovely center Iāve found that acts as a coherent lens for understanding most things. Buddhism has a lot in common with dialectics and I find it deepening in a way. Before I just thought Marxism let me understand the whole world broadly, but I find it is more important while Iām not actively organizing and still growing a lot as a person to examine the phenomenal nature of reality and my mind and ego tunnel. I have probably thought many hours about existentialism and phenomenology without reading a word of Husserl and only a book and some essays by Camus.
Looking into the Buddhist perspective would probably interest you, but I empathize with your experience. A long time investigating experientially, and Iāve found that my perfectionistic ideal of humanity does not exist. Humans are strange and irrational and ugly and how the hell did āIā end up one. It feels like I donāt belong in this body but I donāt have a better idea of where I belong anymore. I donāt hate the image in the mirror, but youāre telling me thatās āme?ā That name I respond to is āme?ā Itās so strange. Thereās totally a disconnect. This body seems to limit me greatly, but it also does cool things of its own accord my mind doesnāt think possible.
So I have identified with the voice in my head for a long time, but at some point it got extra loud and stupid and I had OCD and I realized with the help of Buddhist informed stuff that I donāt have to identify with my thoughts. I understand intellectual that the self is composed of nonself elements and does not necessarily exist, but it still has felt sort of like there has been a āmeā at war with all my thoughts since my black and white thinking decided thoughts are wrong.
What fascinates me is the greatly differing perspectives of other āspiritual seekersā I have seen online. They have neurotypical coherent senses of self and want to bliss out and merge with the rest of the universe. Meanwhile Iām coming in with my face dragged through the dirt of the abyss despite relatively good material circumstances. My brain says nothingās real, it gets really mad when things change, and my stomach constantly hurts from ādissatisfaction.ā Will Buddhism fix this? Do I really think I can get enlightened? Am I just suppressing the part of me that wants to criticize everything and believe nothing again? I donāt know but I think Iām less dissociated and anxious, so thatās something.
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1.1yr
Meanwhile I'm probably more dissociated and anxious than ever before lol.
Good ramble btw. If you had to recommend 2 or 3 Buddhist texts, which would you recommend? Also stuff on ontology and epistemology would be appreciated. My backlog is a mess but Buddhism is something I'm not afraid of reading more on. I did make the mistake of reading The Book by Alan Watts and that was kind of a mess. I'd like more of a primer to ground my understanding lol. I don't really have much to add since I'm more a fly on the wall regarding this side of philosophy and not quite a student of it yet. I do like me some Camus though lol.
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QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer] - 1.1yr
::: spoiler long lmao
Mindfulness, meditation, presentism, non-judgment,and understanding the three marks (impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and emptiness) etc have helped with anxiety and dissociation, but Iām not ācured.ā For now it seems I need a little anxiety to keep the ADHD in check tbh.
Thank you comrade ^^. I apologize for replying to this gasp eight hours after it was sent. Is it possible I do things that are not on the internet? More notably, this question was mildly overwhelming because I am still in the gross data accumulation phase where I am not confident in my ability to provide the full picture. I donāt want to be too broad or not broad enough, and you are not me in the exact same context to get my same understanding, though I think I can trust we are more similar than most people.
Anyway, my book recommendations. Iām going to give too much context and be tangential because it is fun. These should be pretty coherent together. Part of the Theravada modern-Buddhist materialism-compatible western sect.
I donāt remember what value I gained from it, but I think Wapola Rahulaās āWhat the Buddha Taughtā was a decent primer on the ancient baseline. Dessalines recommended that one in his Buddhism essays I stumbled upon. Itās well regarded according to Wikipedia.
āMastering the Core Teachings of the Buddhaā is pretty great so far and not too dense or anything. Breht recommended it at some point on Shoeless in South Dakota. It has clear instructions and stuff. I just recalled it mentioned āthe Antidoteā at some point and you may have read that. Burkemanās other book, āFour Thousand Weeksā was also helpful with my existential anxieties.
The Mind Illuminated by John Yates and Mathew Immergut is lauded by Dessalines and Daniel Ingram and even random people on Reddit. Iāve been listening to the audiobook to cope with transitions. Itās refreshingly direct about how to practice meditation. If youāre interested but would like to start with a guided meditation Iāve found these align well.
Ontology is the study of being and epistemology is about how we know what we know. They are both broad topics with many schools. From what Iāve seen dialectical materialism is the most compelling worldview (which entails both). Deep down Iām a skeptic (still gotta read Hume and Sextus Empiricus) but I have accepted Leninās argument (in materialism and empirio-criticism) that practice is a reasonable and valuable criterion for knowledge. All knowledge is relative after all. Even materialism admits we are getting subjective impressions informed by socialization from an ultimately limitless and unknowable world. Buddhism has its own, often compatible imo, perspective on these issues.
I cannot recommend revleftās dialectics deep dive series enough and following whatever peaks your interest. In addition, their episodes on Buddhism, particularly how it overlaps with Marxism and anarchism. Follow whatever peaks your interest.
If youāre interested in listening to more Buddhist stuff, particularly from other schools, I like the Zen Studies podcast, and the Theory of Samsara (on YouTube, heās a bit of a lib, but heās critical).
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
::: spoiler medication ramble
i succeeded! i got my prescription. i got to the pharmacy and found my prescription had run out, but its a small town and you can usually get medical stuff sorted out the same day so i went to the doctor's surgery and the reception person promised to get it sorted before the pharmacy shut. and it turned out it worked in my favour because i went to run errands and went back and i got to the pharmacy just before it closed and it turned out the doctor had also renewed my sleeping pills that i didn't ask for
it's already helping my neck. not enough, i might take more in a bit. but i'm so glad. particularly since we're expecting another bad storm and won't be able to drive into town for several days. hopefully i'll be able to do some storm prep after resting.
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Wertheimer [any] - 1.1yr
They actually gave you medication for your neck pain? No fair.
(I'm sorry you've been in pain.)
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
yeah actually. the doctors have been so good to me tbh. and yeah the pain sucks, it's a constant for me, but i deal, you know? and medicate where i can. it's the price i pay for having a life, and i am glad to be living.
pls forgive me, i must ramble about my situation. no need to read or engage if ur not feeling it.
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i moved back home after spending some years in the UK. in the UK i was prescribed a nerve medication, which i took for a year and got such bad memory problems i stopped taking it. back home i managed to get my doctor to prescribe the same medication using my medical records and witholding the records that related to my memory issues, because i was in such a bad state i just really needed to get back on it. i now take the medication for like, a couple weeks each month so that it doesn't lead to the building up memory issues before, and share it with someone who has similar problems but no current healthcare access. so my chronic neck issues getting suddenly worse came when i had no medication, and they were so bad that driving in to pick up the prescrition was a serious challenge.
and like fuck, they prescribed me proper strong anxiety meds on the spot when i was having a crisis a few months ago. because in the past when i've looked for anxiety help i've been put on a series of things that don't work, and had to go through years of useless substitutes for what i know actually helps me. and similar with sleep meds, it seems like i can go in and ask for a box of sleep medication when i need it.
and this is all such a shock to me. i've had terrible care all my life and while i simply cannot trust doctors anymore i feel like they are actually helping me a bit now. and i live in a super rural area and although it's a bit of a trek to the town, when there are problems i can just walk into the doctor's surgery and get it sorted the same day. and basically all my medication is controlled and the kind of thing they prefer not to put people on, but nothing else works.
i maybe declined to tell new doctors about trans stuff and continued self medicating, even though i've been prescribed in the past and could prolly get a prescription here, cuz i simply hate the oversight and paternalism, but i figure that's a decision i'm perfectly entitled to make.
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Wertheimer [any] - 1.1yr
Please, ramble all you'd like!
and this is all such a shock to me. i've had terrible care all my life and while i simply cannot trust doctors anymore i feel like they are actually helping me a bit now.
This is really encouraging to hear. I also have an earned distrust of doctors and the people I know who say "just keep trying" usually have no experience of how bad things can get for those of us in chronic pain or with chronic conditions that don't respond to textbook treatments. That you've found a change of fortune in a rural area is wonderful.
And to anyone who shares medication with those without healthcare access.
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
i tell u the fucking number of antidepressants i've been forced to try for either chronic pain, insomnia, or anxiety (not depression), i feel like i've tried dozens at this point and absolutely zero positive effects have been experienced. i absolutely refuse to take another antidepressant in my life. i just need to be trusted. things get worse sometimes, i know what i need and i know my conditions and how they interact better than the doctors do, and i genuinely just need to be able go to the doctor and tell them what i need and have them listen
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Wertheimer [any] - 1.1yr
Sounds like we've had similar off-label antidepressant journeys.
They've just prescribed me a new antidepressant - in the same family as another one that didn't help with my migraines or cervicogenic headaches - and I have been leaning toward not taking it. Life is bad enough without side effects or withdrawal symptoms brought about from being too sick to make it to the pharmacy.
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
yeah, if you're trapped in that cycle of BS there is something to be said for pretending to take the antidepressants for a while, going back and saying it doesn't work, and repeat until they try something that is not an antidepressant. i literally don't know why they even prescribe it for depression, let alone low-evidence off label uses. it kinda feels like just being dismissed as the pain being psychosomatic - even if the doctor is not actively thinking that, the widespread use of it just feels so dismissive and ableist.
i really hope you find something that works. if it helps, my headaches range from cluster headaches, migraines, and stress induced headaches. the medications i've found help are
::: spoiler meds
sumatriptan nasal spray for cluster headaches and migraines (i don't really get the cluster headaches anymore but they told me to keep using the nasal spray because it's the same medication for migraines, just much much faster acting).
alprazolam for any type of headache
pregabalin is my nerve pain medication and it makes any type of headache, at least those that i get, better as well
obviously can't promise any of those will work for u but i figure it's worth mentioning in case any of those are things that u haven't tried.
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Wertheimer [any] - 1.1yr
Oh, damn, cluster headaches? Those are the only ones I haven't tried. I've heard those are up there with kidney stones as "the worst pain that doesn't kill you."
::: spoiler Meds
The triptans don't work for me, which is one reason I'm in the mess I am. I haven't done pregabalin but I have had another anticonvulsant, topiramate, and that gave me the memory problems you mentioned and more. An absolute nightmare drug. I was luckier than some in that I was able to quit it cold turkey - I've read horror stories about withdrawal symptoms lasting many months.
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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 1.1yr
As someone both on antidepressants and pain killers, it's because some of them improve your dopamine receptors. My psychiatrist had me switch from stuff that was working to some other stuff that also works, but goes with my vicodin to make it more potent without actually increasing the dose.
But yeah....just prescribing someone an antidepressant and hoping it's enough to act as a painkiller by itself seems like nonsense lmao
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Beetle [hy/hym] - 1.1yr
Iāve been doing a lot of anxiety inducing stuff lately in the hope that Iāll get used to the pressure and learn to deal with it. Will let u guys know in a few weeks or months if it works or if I get burnt.
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
Well, I got a couple of messages of support last week about the behaviour of my therapist so I thought I'd give you all an update. I mentioned how I'm going through a benefit appeal, and also having mental health therapy for depression and anxiety, and this therapist is worse than useless but I don't dare to quit because the DWP (benefit assessors) will use it against me, they've done it before, used me not having treatment for a condition as an excuse to stop my benefits. Anyway, I mentioned how I'm struggling to keep going to the therapy appointments because they are so useless and stressful and I have a lot of other medical appointments to keep up with too (oncologist, endocrinologist, stroke clinic, ophthalmologist, physiotherapist, neurologist, etc) so having this weekly useless therapy appointment is just an extra stress and waste of time. I mentioned this to my therapist and she got offended and told me to just quit therapy if I don't want to go. When I explained that the DWP will use that as an excuse to permanently stop my benefits and I'll end up homeless and permanently destitute, she didn't care at all and said "benefits aren't a good enough reason to have therapy."
Well anyway the update is that I missed an appointment with her and I've been feeling more unwell than usual this past week as a treatment I was given by the neurologist has worn off now, so the therapist agreed that this month we can just have one appointment instead of the usual 4 and see how that goes. I just really want her to let me have one a month until January, when the therapy comes to a natural end. That way I've completed the 6 month course of therapy rather than quitting halfway through and the DWP won't be able to use it against me. I really hope she doesn't expect me to have the full 8 sessions that are left after that. I hate this therapy so much, it's absolute crap.
She's such a crappy therapist she can't even think of things to do in the sessions and tries to make me think of things to do. I once told her I was interested in trying meditation so now 20-25 minutes of each session are her doing a rubbish mediation where she talks complete nonsense while I have my eyes closed. Then she gets out crayons and tells me to draw pictures of whatever I'm feeling. Then she gets out a diagram of a human and tells me to colour in whatever parts of my body hurt that day. The end!
How is this meant to help me? My problems are that I'm ill from cancer and the effects of it's treatment, I'm learning to walk again and adjusting to becoming partially sighted after having a stroke, and I'm living in poverty, always fighting benefit appeals and struggling to get enough to eat and keep a roof over my head. No therapy will fix this but this excuse for therapy is particularly bad. And I can't quit or it will be a big strike against me in my benefit claim.
People are meant to have a free choice about whether to accept medical treatment or not but there is no free choice when you'll be made destitute, homeless and starving in retaliation for refusing the treatment. And this shitty therapist refuses to understand how badly I need a roof over my head and food. Someone here recommended I talk to her about Maslow's hierarchy of needs to try to get her to understand, I will do that at the next appointment and see what she says. I'll let you all know how that goes.
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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 1.1yr
God that sounds fucking awful. I've had my share of shitty therapists, but I don't think I've ever encountered someone this awful. Where I'm at now is a clinic that focuses on intersectional problems, so that's why probably why they're better at helping me with my physical disabilities. My current psychiatrist didn't even hesitate to write recommendations to Social Security.
Honestly it sounds like your therapist should just get the fuck out or learn to do self-crit (as much as liberals can lmao) because nothing you've requested is unreasonable. I'm guessing she hasn't even brought up Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I don't think she does this, and it wasn't on offer from the NHS. 5 years prior to this I was given DBT on the NHS from a different therapist, who was even worse than this one. The DBT therapist just made me write lists of why I shouldn't feel depressed or anxious and why I shouldn't commit suicide, and look at those lists whenever I felt bad, to make me feel better. That was the entire therapy! And she admitted that she wasn't even qualified yet. I've totally given up on therapy actually helping me, it's all shit. I'm only toughing it out because of my benefit claim.
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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 1.1yr
Yeah as far as I know, the most up-to-date consensus is talk therapy is basically useless. It can help diagnose problems in the same way going over what chemicals you've been exposed to throughout your life can diagnose cancer, but that's about it. Diagnosing the cancer through empirical testing? Hahaaha nope!
I'd say stick with whatever gets you your benefits and seek out CBT on your own, preferably with something like a support group (even if it's online), with a focus on learning Mindfulness and Radical Acceptance. They won't solve your problems, but they will make them easier to deal with. They're more like skills you learn and improve upon. Everyone on the planet should be taught CBT just like we teach everyone hygiene. That won't happen, though, since psychiatric resources are already too thin. Radical Acceptance is especially useful for Marxism's dialectical materialism because they have a lot of overlap in how we view the world.
I wish I was more familiar with the UK system, but I'm not. I'd be able to point you to some stuff here in the US otherwise.
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DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I'm glad to hear others say talk therapy is useless. Online (especially reddit), people are always going on about how it's so great, everyone should get therapy, it solves all your problems, etc. It's been feeling like gaslighting, like "if therapy doesn't fix you then YOU aren't putting enough effort in." It feels no different than the bible telling people if they have enough faith they can move mountains.
I don't think I can get therapy elsewhere because it costs money, which I don't have. I don't even want therapy anyway, I've accepted my situation already. The therapist even said all she can do for me is get me to accept my situation and I'd already done that before I even met her. The one thing she can do is help me get my benefits reinstated but she just seems utterly opposed to that.
Anyway I've had several therapists before and none were any good at all. Years ago I was at university and I was walking home from the supermarket one evening when I was grabbed off the street and sexually assaulted by a gang of 4 men - total strangers. The university provided a counsellor/therapist who was also useless. One of the things she did was try to get me to empathise with my attackers, get me to imagine what problems they'd been going through that drove them to act the way they did towards me. I can't begin to tell you how infuriating it is, even now, to remember that. And the police were even worse. It's all crap.
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QueerCommie [she/her, fae/faer] - 1.1yr
Things are louder than usual today
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Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 1.1yr
Nerve pain is fucking bullshit FOOT Y U NO STAY FINE?
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aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
Don't forget your knee, thigh, lower back, shoulders, what feels like random electrical shocks, it's fucked
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x87_floatingpoint [he/him, it/its] - 1.1yr
Can anyone tell me about air filters? No energy to go look for information
Heard they can provide some protection from the COVID in an indoors space? How effective is that? I will probably move back to my family soon, they go outside a lot more often and I worry about catching COVID from them.
How big is the air filter? Do you just put it in a corner of the room or what? Are they noisy?
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Kuori [she/her] - 1.1yr
look up corsi-rosenthal boxes when you're feeling up to it. the tl;dr is that you use a/c filters and a box fan. my understanding is that they are very effective for small, enclosed spaces.
if noise is a concern i have seen some made with tiny filters and desktop pc fans and the like. the main takeaway here is that they're relatively easy to make and afford.
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TheSpectreOfGay [hy/hym, she/her] - 1.1yr
chat how do i stop my body from injuring itself by being perpetually tensed up
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
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FumpyAer [any, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
Short-term solution could be muscle relaxants.
Massage can help (I am skeptical of chiropractics though)
Try looking up the Alexander Technique, it really helped me with being overly tense. If there is a group class near you (sometimes music/dance/performing arts schools have them) you should try it but it's hard to learn without an in person teacher.
Something that helped me is realizing that any muscle group that is tense has an opposing muscle group that, if tensed up, can allow the opposing ones to relax.
Examples: bicep/tricep, lower back and abs (especially sitting!), upper back/upper chest, trapezius muscles/scapular muscles, and in the neck, occipital ligaments in the back vs the ones in the front (but also, gravity can pull your chin downwards to relieve tension in the back of the neck.)
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Luna - 1.1yr
Re: fine motor function. I've been really busy lately, extremely exhausted, and I can barely do anything involving fine motor. I'm struggling to type this right now, I type fast and am used to having to backspace, but this is taking me so much longer to type right now. Literally every couple of words. Was really bad today when I kept messing up and bumping the trackpad of my computer while taking notes. It would move the cursor to a different spot and then mess up other sections of the notes, which I had to take time to fix.
Sorry for venting yet again, it's just frustrating, because I don't feel like there's much I can really do to help with the problem. I won't do this again this week, I promise
Anyway, should really post something positive at least. I'm somehow managing my really large load of coursework right now, although it's probably why my spoons are as depleted as they are.
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 1.1yr
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
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AshenWolf [she/her] - 1.1yr
Hey, at least I think we got some of those spoons back
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
I think you commented in the old mega right on the buzzer @HexaSnoot@hexbear.net. Bringing it over here to answer:
(About Maslow's)
It's individualistic and a cooptation of better concepts and it's just gross but your run of the mill therapist who just scraped by to get their qualification is almost certainly going to like it.
What are those better concepts?
Power isn't given, it's something that is taken.
This is particularly endemic in how privileged people talk about "giving people a voice". Please stfu.
Lol Everything onwards from this really helps me understand more about power dynamics. Thank you.
People tend to graduate from Maslow's Hierarchy (though far too few) on to things like Bronfenbrenner's Ecological Systems Theory:
While that one is better and it doesn't fall trap to hyperindividualistic nonsense, I think this one falls into a different trap: "the net that catches everything catches nothing". I could talk about the arrows but there's no fucking point. Either point them somewhere useful or if you can't do that then your diagram is designed incorrectly or you are being patronising of your audience.
I'm partial to the Dahlgren and Whitehead model, despite its flaws:
It's simple enough to grasp without requiring an hour long lecture first. It provides key information without listing every goddamn detail (Is the chronosystem in Bronfenbrenner really necessary?? Do you genuinely need to represent the flow of time, that the things in the present come from the moment that directly preceded them and so on? [Is it too late to do a coconut tree joke? Would that be in poor taste now?] Do you really need to tell people that time affects everything? Why did you feel the need to call it a chronosystem - was "time" or "history" too simple? Would a two-sided arrow with the downwards poiting one labeled as "past" and the one pointing to the surface layer labeled as "present" be too simple and intuitive to grasp? What, did you run out of space to talk about the flow of ideas and neuronal networks and the thermohaline conveyor and intra-religious conflict fuelled by schisms?)
The problems with this one are there too - it's explicitly depoliticised, the green part is okay but it's not really very cogent but it's more like a scattershot of things that Dahlgren and Whitehead tried to list 10 factors for but they only managed to phone in 8 before calling it good; agricultural production factors matter yet manufacturing production factors are absent (tell me you're living in a so-called "post-industrial" country without telling me), the centre doesn't show it in this one but other ones are revised to have a family to make it less individualistic and yet in doing so it either ignores intrafamiliar factors or it just kinda shoehorns them it "There - a family. Now you fill in the blanks!" and it either centres the nuclear family (Can you tell which countries this is made for and which type of country it was made in yet?) or they put grandma in so she can be in the nice picture as well before they shuffle her back off to the nursing home.
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robot_dog_with_gun [they/them] - 1.1yr
iirc maslow stole from indigenous people and the more direct descriptions of those original ideas seemed better as well.
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
Not me, in the previous comment chain with the locked mega that you didn't see that led to this comment:
But that's my style of conversation tbh and I'd feel pretty comfortable discussing the topic [of Maslow's Hierarchy]. It might be a different for others though, and maybe approaching it from a place of learning would suit them better, for example, than taking the approach of musing from a postcolonial critical perspective of Maslow's work would, you know what I mean? I can't tell you what an "authentic" way (cursed term) is for you but I'd encourage you to approach this sort of discussion in a way that feels right to you.
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
i did thing. i feel just enough strength to do more thing. things are important. i am proud of myself.
it really sucks when ur disabled but if u don't get on with the things then eventually it will be catastrophic so u just gotta do the things, but also be careful not to push urself in such a way that it makes u worse. i even went to a series of classes on pacing that were offered by the health service a few years ago and i put it into practice best i can. but there's just something about like the material conditions of life, and how sometimes there is no chance to rest.
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khizuo [ze/zir] - 1.1yr
Awesome! doing things is so hard, I'm glad you were able to get there. and yeah I feel that about needing to do things but not having the energy to do them and then having them spiral into catastrophe.
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belligerentkitten [they/them, it/its] - 1.1yr
thank u
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Bureaucrat - 1.1yr
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
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TheSpectreOfGay [hy/hym, she/her] - 1.1yr
i would really like to get an autism diagnosis, because it feels like it's the root cause of a lot of my social issues, and i would really like support for dealing with that. and it might help towards getting disability aid ig but my doc said i should qualify without it
but the wait time for adult diagnosis is a year
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
I've been trialling a drop-in peer support space run via the game Webfishing. I'm auDHD and I reasonably knowledgeable about the ins-and-outs of autism and late diagnosis.
You're welcome to join the ping list for when I notify people of the upcoming drop-in peer support space so you can chat with me or whoever else is in there, if you're interested.
Currently I've only really been promoting it on the neurodiverse comm so the autistic power levels of the server are off the charts
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TheSpectreOfGay [hy/hym, she/her] - 1.1yr
oh sure i'd appreciate it, can't promise i'll attend but i'd like to be pinged if i feel up to it. thanks for the offer!
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ReadFanon [any, any] - 1.1yr
Don't sweat it, there's no participation requirements or anything. Just come in if the server is live and you feel up for it.
Welcome to the ping list!
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gaystyleJoker [she/her] - 1.1yr
::: spoiler publicly journaling a little
sitting here basically fighting the part of my brain that wants to scream about this dumb website. i've settled into a calm fog that i assume is just me putting off the emotions until it's appropriate to deal with them
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MouthyHooker - 1.1yr
The chronic pain is paining these past couple weeks. Moving up and down the whole left side of my body, every day itās a fun guessing game of which area will be killing me when I wake up. Sometimes it switches over to the right side just to keep things interesting. The usual mitigations (heat, self-massage/myofascial release, stretching, NSAIDs) are not mitigating and itās grinding me down. Idk what triggered it. Could be anything or nothing š« I think itās the combo of colder temps, financial stress, and the political situation here in the US.
I wish I could exercise more!! I was getting back into a good routine and it was helping my mental health a lot and in some ways seems to help my body feel better but then in other ways makes it worse.
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Wertheimer [any] - 1.1yr
I think itās the combo of colder temps, financial stress, and the political situation here in the US.
My migraines have been unstoppable for weeks, too, and probably from the same causes. It's bad out here, folks.
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dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them] - 1.1yr
I wish I could exercise more!!
me too, but I keep hurting myself š need to find a pilates instructor with EDS
khizuo in disabled
Disabled Community Megathread - November 11th, 2024 to November 17th, 2024
Unfortunately I don't have the energy to put together some info for the mega this week, hopefully I can pull together something for next week though. As always, we ask that in order to participate in the weekly megathread, one self-identifies as some form of disabled, which is broadly defined in the community sidebar:
Mask up, love one another, and stay alive for one more week.
Ablebodied peoples idea of what ableism is is so performative and out of touch
Like they'll tone police but won't wear a fucking mask
"You need to vote for harm-reduction Harris!!" they shout at us, from their unmasked faces.
I talked with some union people at my workplace, and I asked them if they plan to resist the full return to office that is coming. I shit you not, they welcomed the news (they were clueless) because "we will communicate and work better" [sic].
They only really care about their higher wages and people like me can fuck off and die I guess. I don't know why I expected solidarity from neurotypicals. It's shit like this that completely discourages me from organizing
I am currently in "dead fish flopping about gasping for air" mode. I'm lying flat almost all hours of the day unless I manage to somehow force myself into a sitting position (usually just to eat food). I've been skipping most of my classes because I'm too tired to crawl out of bed, let alone get myself across campus and into a chair where I have to sit upright for over an hour. I'm brain fogged to the point where trying to do anything besides watching mindless videos is too much exertion for me. I hate this so much. I feel utterly useless because in my current state, I essentially am useless. Every day is a drag yet also too quick at the same time. I just wish I had my old energy back.
how have your teachers been? are they being understanding about your struggles?
Awful fucking illness. Sending virtual hugs.
Feeling useless stings so bad, I'm so sorry you're going through this
Living is a job I can't clock out of why is everything so hard
I want all "it was just a prank" excuses to be invalid forever. It has ableist implications IF it is genuine, which it NEVER EVER IS, so its just reactionaries being cowards
I hate being reminded of the fact that I can't perform fine motor functions. I've gotten used to it when journaling, even though I can't really read my handwriting, but I was trying to do a lab today and just kept fumbling and messing up the setup. I couldn't help but constantly apologize to my lab partners almost constantly, and once they finished with their portions they had to help with mine, and I essentially had to step back and do other parts of the lab work. Ugh
Too autistic for the autistics strikes again
Bless you, I find it's hard to not put myself down when I'm not able to do things that seem so simple for those around me
Hi y'all
Hiii
u receive : back problems & nerve pain
i receive : hug
I've already got back problems and nerve pain, what now?
hmm. maybe it's like a krenko, mob boss situation where ur just producing more of the same at an explosive rate? maybe u would become a superhero; the proportional hurdles of two disabled people!!!
My workplace intends to enforce full return to office to improve our discipline, meaning no scheduled remote days but we might be able to get some as needed? Not clear enough.
This is probably going to destroy me, I don't know if it is some autism sensitivity but office days tire me to the extent that even with 3/5, I often feel so miserable that I take a paid leave just to not go there. I don't understand how neurotypicals do it every day, it seems impossible to me
the doctor agreed that EDS testing was worthwhile and referred me to a geneticist š
and I only cried a little bit during the appointment so ššš š
she was mostly very nice, but there were a couple of moments where I could feel her getting skeptical and I started getting overwhelmed, and I'm very glad I had the pleasantly stoic @shadowinlight@hexbear.net along to jump in to help explain things
If you want I've just uploaded the audiobook version of Exile and Pride Disability, Queerness, and Liberation by Eli Clare to TankieTube and there's a PDF copy of the book available here. I haven't read it yet but it looks interesting.
Here's the publisher's synopsis:
If you like the sound of it, you're welcome to copy this along with the links into the body of your post as a substitute for other content. If you do I'll delete this comment so it's not clogging up the mega unnecessarily.
Folks, this is it... I finally got prescribed Vyvanse after six months of just fucking around with Wellbutrin! I'm super excited and eager to see what happens!
But that's not what I'm here for right now. I've been playing with a story in my head for a very long time and I really want to start writing it. The thing is, the way I envision one of the characters includes the fact that she's hard of hearing. I want to be as respectful as possible of such a person's life experience and I want to research what everyday life is like for someone with impaired hearing. Can you folks suggest any sources for me to do some reading up on the topic? Anyone who talks about their life without hearing? Any interesting stories with a deaf/hard of hearing main character?
I can't believe this. I'm booked in to have a minor surgery on my feet to clear up infected skin that has failed to respond to other treatments. It's on the NHS so the surgery is free, but they just told me I have to pay for a pack of dressings to take home (as the wound needs the dressing changed every day and the pack apparently contains something to keep the dressings dry in the shower.) This pack is bloody £37, and I have to buy two as both my feet are having the surgery. I can't be the only one who thinks these packs should be free along with the surgery? And where am I supposed to get £74 while going through a benefit appeal? Just when I think life can't get worse, it finds a way. Being ill/disabled is so bloody expensive!
Of course they should be free, thatās ridiculous. Maybe comrades in the mutual aid com can help you out.
I'm worried about accepting money though, because the DWP are checking people's bank accounts and I don't know how I'd explain why someone was putting money in my account.
Oh thatās fucked up Iām sorry
do the dressings have to come from them, or could you take others in with you and have them verified as sufficient?
She said I can just buy them off amazon, but that doesn't help, because I've checked on there and they are just as expensive and I don't have any money at all. However someone on here gave me the idea to ask if my medical exemption certificate would entitle me to free dressings, so I've sent them an email about that and I'm waiting to hear back.
if that doesn't work out, let us know. I know we had a hard time finding someone who could help you with an Amazon purchase because accounts don't cross regions, but we can try again. ā¤ļø
Thanks. x
i have to go out today. i've had horrible neck pain for days but there is medication at the end of the drive if i can manage it that will help. and gotta get food n stuff too. but it's so frustrating. life is constantly like need x to do y, need to do y in order to acquire x
Been on 20mg ritalin for about a week now, and I'm still struggling just as much as before
Learned about a different type of ADHD treatment called interactive metronome, and I might try that if the medications don't work out.
Really feeling the call of the abyss lately. How can I have hope for anything when we can't clear the very simple bar of pandemic mitigation? I'm so tired.
Feeling a lot of the same feelings these days. I always strive for revolutionary optimism, but well, it can be hard sometimes.
In my mind I like fall/winter but my mental and physical health really don't
A lot of my hobbies are more popular with older people and it does hurt my heart a little when I see that they can do them more often and for longer periods of time than I can :/
For some reason after I wrote the ":/" the first suggested word in my phone was "gangstalking" lmao
I'm considering the fact that I'm some sort of strange AuDHD intovert/extrovert. Like, I'm exhausted after doing things with others, but is that just because I'm doing stuff? Because when I'm not masking, I seem to gain energy by being with others. Even taking the time to post more today, and I notice I'm not super exhausted right now, at the end of the day when I usually am by this time.
Don't mind me, just a walking contradiction that keeps racking up contradictions the more time goes on
Is introversion even a real thing? I am starting to believe all introverts are just masked autistics because of ky experience that is similar to yours
I finally got to get back to FNB this last weekend and we all hung out and talked a bit after we ran out of food(always a good sign) and I feel like a super judgey bastard because, originally, I was like "I'm probably the furthest left person here." I guess I was just going on internal biases due to where I live, but turns out, a lot of those running it are anarchists and other flavor of socialst. I was both humbled and extremely happy that I got to shoot the shit about the current political climate with handful of IRL legit socialists. I love it. I'm a bit shamed that I just assumed. But I was in the presence of people that have been at this since the 90s. Super fucking humbling.
Also we are all introverts that suffer from major social anxiety lol.
One of them that I actually met a few weeks ago at my vegan food truck place, was introducing me to her friend and threw me off because she asked me for my pronouns. Def not used to that IRL because I'm pretty male presenting but it was the first time I got to try out "he/him but sometimes they" since I've been doing some personal soul searching and think I might be demi or agender. I've always been male presenting cishet but I've also never really cared about my gender all that much and do "girly stuff" that I like. And a lot of "guy stuff" I kind of hate. I'm not really sure where I land but I'm gonna talk more with my therapist this week about it and try to figure it out. I might just be suffering from patriarchal bullshit.
Other than that I do have training officially lined up for this weekend so we might have a tiny bit of financial security coming soon. I have a job interview for that Facebook/Meta for a software position that I'm still hoping to get some study time in on. I'm not really qualified for it but I'm not gonna turn it down if they offer it to me. Not gonna keep my hope up though because I can't really afford to do that mentally anymore.
Anyway, I hope everyone's week goes great. Politics right now is a fuck so don't forget to take care of yourselves.
Thatās nice. I hope to find cool people like that again.
Gender isnāt real. My theory is that when we autists reflect on the idea our bottom up processing makes it easy to experience that emptiness, whereas NTs will project their social standards and absorbed ideas as truth. Nothing is bad about not caring about your presentation and such, but if you find that the patriarchal mold has constrained you and trying other things makes you happier then thatās great too.
Good luck.
I'm basically a gender abolitionist but I hesitate to say that even in disabled spaces. I mentioned as much in one of the many weekly "I don't feel like my assigned gender" posts on /r/autism and someone got all spicy saying "here we go with patriarchy bad again" and I just didn't have the energy for it lol. They were trying to defend gender from the perspective of feminism activism, but like if the patriarchy didn't exist, social constructs like gender wouldn't exist, therefore, we wouldn't have a need for activism in the way it exists currently. Basically gender is a tool by the patriarchy to arbitrarily assign oppression to certain classes in society and now I can't paint my fingernails pink without chuds side-eyeing me lol.
But that's all to say I don't really wanna minimize our comrades who are on their own gender journeys. I just want people to be allowed to be happy as the people they are. I just think I'm sometimes kinda "girly" feeling but I donno what that means.
I think we're on the same page but I just want to gently remind you that for some people, gender is really really important. Like, critical to their survival and something they have fought upstream against society for over many years of suffering and hardship.
I'm enbie and to me, on a personal level, gender is genuinely unimportant to my own identity but when I talk about the abolition of gender I try to frame it in terms of something like abolishing enforced gender or abolishing gender norms because I don't want to unintentionally signal to anyone, least of all to certain trans comrades, that I'm coming to steal their gender from them. All I want is for gender to be optional and based on exactly how the individual feels at that particular moment; you can look how you want, you can act how you prefer, and you can be the gender(s) that you feel and none of these things have to "align" and anybody who tries to tell you that you aren't permitted to do something/that you have to do something/that you're doing it wrong can go straight to hell because unless they abolish that attitude immediately then they're gonna get their dental record abolished.
I get how it feels because for myself, my experience of my own gender is summed up by one big fucking meh. But I can't univeralise my own experience of being gender's distant acquaintance and I absolutely do not want to replace gender normativity with agender normativity since that's just gonna be the same shit, different texture for plenty of people, especially trans people, for whom gender really does matter. I'm coming for the normativity; I'm not coming for your gender.
I don't want to get into the weeds on the ontology of the social construct of gender here however one thing that's important to me is drawing upon Foucault's concept of reverse discourse, especially to do with the term queer; without cishet-normativity, the label queer would not exist. However the original discourse of the label has been subverted and it has been thoroughly reclaimed as a symbol of pride, of unity, and ultimately of power across the queer community. With this in mind, I think the reclamation of the term queer has been even more radical than it would have been if we simply managed to abolish its use from our culture.
So, for the people who are engaging in a parallel sort of reclamation of gender on a personal level, because for most/all of their upbringing they had faced a constant barrage of proscriptive gender norms from all angles, they bore down against that great and terrible dragon of gender normativity whose scales glittered with the accretion of a thousand years' of gender normative valuesāeach scale being inscribed with a gendered "Thou shalt!"āand they managed to fucking slay that dragon with a resounding and triumphant "I am!"... I have to ask myself, are these not the people who embody the very same spirit of revolutionary reclamation that I described above?
In my opinion, if you slay that dragon then you get to do whatever you want with the dragon's spoils. You are the hero in this story; I'm not going to deny you the glory that is by rights yours.
Absolutely. That's why I don't want to step on the toes of people who are in that camp. Their gender identity is as important to me as it is to them. Something that stuck out with that gender accelerationist manifesto is that just because we may strive for gender abolition, doesn't mean gender identity will go away, it just means it will not longer be a tool to be used by the ruling class(of course ideally the ruling class will be gone) in order to put us in arbitrary boxes. My genderness is gonna be completely different to the next person's genderness. I don't wanna seem like I'm coming as if I'm saying someone's else's genderness is pointless or anything. Apologies to anyone that might have read it that way.
Ok it does sound we are on the same page :)
I have Foucault on my list to read but it probably won't be for a year or 2 because of how backlogged I am but now I'm eager. And you dragon analogy is powerful. I guess at the end of the day, just because my genderness isn't that important to me(I'm probably 60% AGAB and 40% meh, for comparison) doesn't mean others' gender identity should be invalidated.
Yeah, we're on the same page. In that case, excuse my yapping.
I'm conflicted about Foucault tbh. But at the end of the day his thought is very influential and there are some useful tools to add to the toolkit which his work provides so even if you don't agree with everything or you take issue with certain things, it's still very useful to read Foucault.
I have to confess that's really just me regurgitating Niezsche from memory and adapting it to gender normativity. I'm sure he'd hate that, which makes it all the better.
I think the Foucault thing got my galaxy brain pinging off of Niezsche so it kinda just came pouring out. Also don't read Niezsche unless you really, really have the burning desire to. There are two types of people who read Niezsche: young, mostly white, men who are edgelords that want a philosophical justification for why they are better than everyone else and dusty old philosophy academics who are sequestered away in some university office building. You aren't either of those two key demographics, thankfully.
I have some Nietzsche but it's so low on my list it might as well not be there. I have Thus Spake Zarathustra and maybe some other stuff by him. I'm conflicted on reading him for the same way I am about reading Heidegger since they both have a history with fascism. I do wanna read Being and Time and Heidegger's essay on technology and those are probably first before Nietzsche for sure. But that's all lumped in with my next bout of philosophy. I have this anarchist theory kick I'm on, then revisit Marxist works, then possibly gender and queer theory(not sure what is gonna be in that yet), and I have a neurdivergent block I wanna get to some time in the future so philosophy might be after that? Lol. I need to read more.
Also, this is praxis lol.
For Foucault, I have Disipline and Punish, recommended by a friend. And I grabbed his History of Sexuality vol 1 and 2 because it caught my interest.
i think it's important to read broadly. Reading the opposition's theory isn't a bad thing - it's not like you're going to come out of that ideologically tainted, as long as you are a principled radical and you have your shit in order. Learning about fascism from fascist theory can give you insights into fascist thinking and strategy, especially if read critically.
Zarathustra is hard, especially as the entry point. I'd recommend Genealogy of Morality instead tbh. It depends what you want to get out of reading Niezsche because there are comprehensive reading lists to give you a very rich, start-to-finish tour of Niezsche's thought but I suspect that's not gonna be your angle. I recommend Genealogy because, although it is diving into the deep end, it's not as opaque as Zarathustra imo and it's a good thing to read either before Foucault or after as Foucault was directly influenced by Niezsche and especially his genealogical approach (hence The Birth of the Clinic and Archaeology of Knowledge and The Birth of the Prison and of course The History of Sexuality etc.)
Cool! If you're partial to audiobooks, don't sleep on TankieTube - there's a pretty comprehensive catalogue of audiobooks on there now including a narrow but growing selection of neurodivergent audiobooks. Most are professionally recorded audiobooks with the main exception being high quality amateur stuff from Socialism For All.
The three main audiobook channels to recommend are Neurodivergent Audiobook Library and a split between Communist Broadcasting Service which has an array of uploads but of which the audiobooks are mostly the hard end of theory and the kinda "core" communist stuff whereas Book Broadcasting Channel has stuff that tends to fall outside the "core" audiobooks for communist theory. Blackshirts and Reds? Communist Broadcasting Service. Biographies and works about historical labour struggles or prison uprisings and the like? Book Broadcasting Service. The BBC is more eclectic and broader in scope, so there's stuff of interest to materialists and radicals, with a primary focus on history/anthropology/sociology but also some works of fiction that are of relevance like The Grapes of Wrath etc. Or you could just use the search and see what you can dig up. There's plenty more audiobooks on the way, I've just been derelict in my duties to those channels temporarily.
Is a minor point, but it reads ^(to^ ^me)^ like enby = gender is unimportant
An important point. I didn't mean to imply that so I've frontloaded the qualifying term and made it so it's very clear that I'm talking about my personal relationship to my own gender with:
Does that read better?
E: There was also another sentence that I wrote poorly and that didn't notice the implications of so I've rewritten it to be very explicit about me talking only about my own experience.
Yup.
Thanks for having my back!
I'm terrible with proofreading my writing lol. I try, I genuinely do try, but goddamn does my mind wander often. I swear every second comment I write on here is edited after I post it because I've made some silly mistake with spelling or grammar along the way. I'm especially bad with changing my phrasing halfway through a sentence and leaving the first half's grammar going one direction and the second half's going in a completely different direction. Good thing it's Hexbear and not an English exam.
Fascinating. I feel compelled to espouse my abolitionist views whenever someone makes it sound like theyāre seeking a solid place of belonging on an arbitrary spectrum. Iām conscious of our large diversity, but sometimes I forget how many autists are libs. Iād probably end up arguing with those types, but yeah they are can be well intentioned.
To draw a parallel from my special interest: as the Buddha knows most linguistic truths are relative he does not tell everyone there is self or no self. It depends on the person what will be fruitful for their own path. He is wise and knows which relative truth will yield a more functional and productive perspective for those inquiring, and tells them such.
I read this last night and was having a hard time coming up with a worthy reply lol. I think my hesitation about being an abolitionist about anything is from pushback I've gotten online. I mentioned one time on /r/latestagecapitalism that I was a money abolitionist and people just weren't having it. Bizarre behavior from a sub that was supposed to be "ran by commies" but in the end I marked it up to libs being on there wanting a reformed government instead, and people that just haven't read any theory. I might have to be more in your face about it to others. I have close friends that are on various paths to the left that probably wouldn't bat an eye if I said I'm a gender abolitionist.
I'm mostly an armchair philosopher and it's somewhat a special interest of mine but more so with how it functions as a foundation to socialism. But I did take a side street into phenomenology and existentialism this summer. With that said, your Buddha line actually weighs quite a bit on some stuff I've been thinking about. Probably not in the Buddhist sense but I've had a really weird relationship with "the self" and I think "ego" because I mostly just feel like a thing in a human suit and I didn't realize that was a thing until I started seeing it get brought up in autism spaces online. It almost feels like there is a conflict between what I am physically and what I am mentally. I'm not spiritual or anything but I just don't know what that conflict is.
I guess this turned into more of a ramble. I'm so confused lol.
::: spoiler a ramble in return Thanks for the reply anyway. I think one of the problems may be with figuring how much context other people have and how much you need to give. But, yeah, it is kinda personalized.
I think the core of my special interest is more around ontology and epistemology. Dialectical materialism is the lovely center Iāve found that acts as a coherent lens for understanding most things. Buddhism has a lot in common with dialectics and I find it deepening in a way. Before I just thought Marxism let me understand the whole world broadly, but I find it is more important while Iām not actively organizing and still growing a lot as a person to examine the phenomenal nature of reality and my mind and ego tunnel. I have probably thought many hours about existentialism and phenomenology without reading a word of Husserl and only a book and some essays by Camus.
Looking into the Buddhist perspective would probably interest you, but I empathize with your experience. A long time investigating experientially, and Iāve found that my perfectionistic ideal of humanity does not exist. Humans are strange and irrational and ugly and how the hell did āIā end up one. It feels like I donāt belong in this body but I donāt have a better idea of where I belong anymore. I donāt hate the image in the mirror, but youāre telling me thatās āme?ā That name I respond to is āme?ā Itās so strange. Thereās totally a disconnect. This body seems to limit me greatly, but it also does cool things of its own accord my mind doesnāt think possible.
So I have identified with the voice in my head for a long time, but at some point it got extra loud and stupid and I had OCD and I realized with the help of Buddhist informed stuff that I donāt have to identify with my thoughts. I understand intellectual that the self is composed of nonself elements and does not necessarily exist, but it still has felt sort of like there has been a āmeā at war with all my thoughts since my black and white thinking decided thoughts are wrong.
What fascinates me is the greatly differing perspectives of other āspiritual seekersā I have seen online. They have neurotypical coherent senses of self and want to bliss out and merge with the rest of the universe. Meanwhile Iām coming in with my face dragged through the dirt of the abyss despite relatively good material circumstances. My brain says nothingās real, it gets really mad when things change, and my stomach constantly hurts from ādissatisfaction.ā Will Buddhism fix this? Do I really think I can get enlightened? Am I just suppressing the part of me that wants to criticize everything and believe nothing again? I donāt know but I think Iām less dissociated and anxious, so thatās something. :::
Meanwhile I'm probably more dissociated and anxious than ever before lol.
Good ramble btw. If you had to recommend 2 or 3 Buddhist texts, which would you recommend? Also stuff on ontology and epistemology would be appreciated. My backlog is a mess but Buddhism is something I'm not afraid of reading more on. I did make the mistake of reading The Book by Alan Watts and that was kind of a mess. I'd like more of a primer to ground my understanding lol. I don't really have much to add since I'm more a fly on the wall regarding this side of philosophy and not quite a student of it yet. I do like me some Camus though lol.
::: spoiler long lmao Mindfulness, meditation, presentism, non-judgment,and understanding the three marks (impermanence, unsatisfactoriness, and emptiness) etc have helped with anxiety and dissociation, but Iām not ācured.ā For now it seems I need a little anxiety to keep the ADHD in check tbh.
Thank you comrade ^^. I apologize for replying to this gasp eight hours after it was sent. Is it possible I do things that are not on the internet? More notably, this question was mildly overwhelming because I am still in the gross data accumulation phase where I am not confident in my ability to provide the full picture. I donāt want to be too broad or not broad enough, and you are not me in the exact same context to get my same understanding, though I think I can trust we are more similar than most people.
Anyway, my book recommendations. Iām going to give too much context and be tangential because it is fun. These should be pretty coherent together. Part of the Theravada modern-Buddhist materialism-compatible western sect.
I donāt remember what value I gained from it, but I think Wapola Rahulaās āWhat the Buddha Taughtā was a decent primer on the ancient baseline. Dessalines recommended that one in his Buddhism essays I stumbled upon. Itās well regarded according to Wikipedia.
āMastering the Core Teachings of the Buddhaā is pretty great so far and not too dense or anything. Breht recommended it at some point on Shoeless in South Dakota. It has clear instructions and stuff. I just recalled it mentioned āthe Antidoteā at some point and you may have read that. Burkemanās other book, āFour Thousand Weeksā was also helpful with my existential anxieties.
The Mind Illuminated by John Yates and Mathew Immergut is lauded by Dessalines and Daniel Ingram and even random people on Reddit. Iāve been listening to the audiobook to cope with transitions. Itās refreshingly direct about how to practice meditation. If youāre interested but would like to start with a guided meditation Iāve found these align well.
Ontology is the study of being and epistemology is about how we know what we know. They are both broad topics with many schools. From what Iāve seen dialectical materialism is the most compelling worldview (which entails both). Deep down Iām a skeptic (still gotta read Hume and Sextus Empiricus) but I have accepted Leninās argument (in materialism and empirio-criticism) that practice is a reasonable and valuable criterion for knowledge. All knowledge is relative after all. Even materialism admits we are getting subjective impressions informed by socialization from an ultimately limitless and unknowable world. Buddhism has its own, often compatible imo, perspective on these issues.
I cannot recommend revleftās dialectics deep dive series enough and following whatever peaks your interest. In addition, their episodes on Buddhism, particularly how it overlaps with Marxism and anarchism. Follow whatever peaks your interest.
If youāre interested in listening to more Buddhist stuff, particularly from other schools, I like the Zen Studies podcast, and the Theory of Samsara (on YouTube, heās a bit of a lib, but heās critical). :::
::: spoiler medication ramble i succeeded! i got my prescription. i got to the pharmacy and found my prescription had run out, but its a small town and you can usually get medical stuff sorted out the same day so i went to the doctor's surgery and the reception person promised to get it sorted before the pharmacy shut. and it turned out it worked in my favour because i went to run errands and went back and i got to the pharmacy just before it closed and it turned out the doctor had also renewed my sleeping pills that i didn't ask for
it's already helping my neck. not enough, i might take more in a bit. but i'm so glad. particularly since we're expecting another bad storm and won't be able to drive into town for several days. hopefully i'll be able to do some storm prep after resting. :::
They actually gave you medication for your neck pain? No fair.
(I'm sorry you've been in pain.)
yeah actually. the doctors have been so good to me tbh. and yeah the pain sucks, it's a constant for me, but i deal, you know? and medicate where i can. it's the price i pay for having a life, and i am glad to be living.
pls forgive me, i must ramble about my situation. no need to read or engage if ur not feeling it.
::: spoiler ramble i moved back home after spending some years in the UK. in the UK i was prescribed a nerve medication, which i took for a year and got such bad memory problems i stopped taking it. back home i managed to get my doctor to prescribe the same medication using my medical records and witholding the records that related to my memory issues, because i was in such a bad state i just really needed to get back on it. i now take the medication for like, a couple weeks each month so that it doesn't lead to the building up memory issues before, and share it with someone who has similar problems but no current healthcare access. so my chronic neck issues getting suddenly worse came when i had no medication, and they were so bad that driving in to pick up the prescrition was a serious challenge.
and like fuck, they prescribed me proper strong anxiety meds on the spot when i was having a crisis a few months ago. because in the past when i've looked for anxiety help i've been put on a series of things that don't work, and had to go through years of useless substitutes for what i know actually helps me. and similar with sleep meds, it seems like i can go in and ask for a box of sleep medication when i need it.
and this is all such a shock to me. i've had terrible care all my life and while i simply cannot trust doctors anymore i feel like they are actually helping me a bit now. and i live in a super rural area and although it's a bit of a trek to the town, when there are problems i can just walk into the doctor's surgery and get it sorted the same day. and basically all my medication is controlled and the kind of thing they prefer not to put people on, but nothing else works.
i maybe declined to tell new doctors about trans stuff and continued self medicating, even though i've been prescribed in the past and could prolly get a prescription here, cuz i simply hate the oversight and paternalism, but i figure that's a decision i'm perfectly entitled to make. :::
Please, ramble all you'd like!
This is really encouraging to hear. I also have an earned distrust of doctors and the people I know who say "just keep trying" usually have no experience of how bad things can get for those of us in chronic pain or with chronic conditions that don't respond to textbook treatments. That you've found a change of fortune in a rural area is wonderful.
And
to anyone who shares medication with those without healthcare access.
i tell u the fucking number of antidepressants i've been forced to try for either chronic pain, insomnia, or anxiety (not depression), i feel like i've tried dozens at this point and absolutely zero positive effects have been experienced. i absolutely refuse to take another antidepressant in my life. i just need to be trusted. things get worse sometimes, i know what i need and i know my conditions and how they interact better than the doctors do, and i genuinely just need to be able go to the doctor and tell them what i need and have them listen
They've just prescribed me a new antidepressant - in the same family as another one that didn't help with my migraines or cervicogenic headaches - and I have been leaning toward not taking it. Life is bad enough without side effects or withdrawal symptoms brought about from being too sick to make it to the pharmacy.
yeah, if you're trapped in that cycle of BS there is something to be said for pretending to take the antidepressants for a while, going back and saying it doesn't work, and repeat until they try something that is not an antidepressant. i literally don't know why they even prescribe it for depression, let alone low-evidence off label uses. it kinda feels like just being dismissed as the pain being psychosomatic - even if the doctor is not actively thinking that, the widespread use of it just feels so dismissive and ableist.
i really hope you find something that works. if it helps, my headaches range from cluster headaches, migraines, and stress induced headaches. the medications i've found help are ::: spoiler meds sumatriptan nasal spray for cluster headaches and migraines (i don't really get the cluster headaches anymore but they told me to keep using the nasal spray because it's the same medication for migraines, just much much faster acting). alprazolam for any type of headache pregabalin is my nerve pain medication and it makes any type of headache, at least those that i get, better as well
obviously can't promise any of those will work for u but i figure it's worth mentioning in case any of those are things that u haven't tried. :::
Oh, damn, cluster headaches? Those are the only ones I haven't tried. I've heard those are up there with kidney stones as "the worst pain that doesn't kill you."
::: spoiler Meds
The triptans don't work for me, which is one reason I'm in the mess I am. I haven't done pregabalin but I have had another anticonvulsant, topiramate, and that gave me the memory problems you mentioned and more. An absolute nightmare drug. I was luckier than some in that I was able to quit it cold turkey - I've read horror stories about withdrawal symptoms lasting many months. :::
As someone both on antidepressants and pain killers, it's because some of them improve your dopamine receptors. My psychiatrist had me switch from stuff that was working to some other stuff that also works, but goes with my vicodin to make it more potent without actually increasing the dose.
But yeah....just prescribing someone an antidepressant and hoping it's enough to act as a painkiller by itself seems like nonsense lmao
Iāve been doing a lot of anxiety inducing stuff lately in the hope that Iāll get used to the pressure and learn to deal with it. Will let u guys know in a few weeks or months if it works or if I get burnt.
Well, I got a couple of messages of support last week about the behaviour of my therapist so I thought I'd give you all an update. I mentioned how I'm going through a benefit appeal, and also having mental health therapy for depression and anxiety, and this therapist is worse than useless but I don't dare to quit because the DWP (benefit assessors) will use it against me, they've done it before, used me not having treatment for a condition as an excuse to stop my benefits. Anyway, I mentioned how I'm struggling to keep going to the therapy appointments because they are so useless and stressful and I have a lot of other medical appointments to keep up with too (oncologist, endocrinologist, stroke clinic, ophthalmologist, physiotherapist, neurologist, etc) so having this weekly useless therapy appointment is just an extra stress and waste of time. I mentioned this to my therapist and she got offended and told me to just quit therapy if I don't want to go. When I explained that the DWP will use that as an excuse to permanently stop my benefits and I'll end up homeless and permanently destitute, she didn't care at all and said "benefits aren't a good enough reason to have therapy."
Well anyway the update is that I missed an appointment with her and I've been feeling more unwell than usual this past week as a treatment I was given by the neurologist has worn off now, so the therapist agreed that this month we can just have one appointment instead of the usual 4 and see how that goes. I just really want her to let me have one a month until January, when the therapy comes to a natural end. That way I've completed the 6 month course of therapy rather than quitting halfway through and the DWP won't be able to use it against me. I really hope she doesn't expect me to have the full 8 sessions that are left after that. I hate this therapy so much, it's absolute crap. She's such a crappy therapist she can't even think of things to do in the sessions and tries to make me think of things to do. I once told her I was interested in trying meditation so now 20-25 minutes of each session are her doing a rubbish mediation where she talks complete nonsense while I have my eyes closed. Then she gets out crayons and tells me to draw pictures of whatever I'm feeling. Then she gets out a diagram of a human and tells me to colour in whatever parts of my body hurt that day. The end! How is this meant to help me? My problems are that I'm ill from cancer and the effects of it's treatment, I'm learning to walk again and adjusting to becoming partially sighted after having a stroke, and I'm living in poverty, always fighting benefit appeals and struggling to get enough to eat and keep a roof over my head. No therapy will fix this but this excuse for therapy is particularly bad. And I can't quit or it will be a big strike against me in my benefit claim. People are meant to have a free choice about whether to accept medical treatment or not but there is no free choice when you'll be made destitute, homeless and starving in retaliation for refusing the treatment. And this shitty therapist refuses to understand how badly I need a roof over my head and food. Someone here recommended I talk to her about Maslow's hierarchy of needs to try to get her to understand, I will do that at the next appointment and see what she says. I'll let you all know how that goes.
God that sounds fucking awful. I've had my share of shitty therapists, but I don't think I've ever encountered someone this awful. Where I'm at now is a clinic that focuses on intersectional problems, so that's why probably why they're better at helping me with my physical disabilities. My current psychiatrist didn't even hesitate to write recommendations to Social Security.
Honestly it sounds like your therapist should just get the fuck out or learn to do self-crit (as much as liberals can lmao) because nothing you've requested is unreasonable. I'm guessing she hasn't even brought up Cognitive Behavioral Therapy?
I don't think she does this, and it wasn't on offer from the NHS. 5 years prior to this I was given DBT on the NHS from a different therapist, who was even worse than this one. The DBT therapist just made me write lists of why I shouldn't feel depressed or anxious and why I shouldn't commit suicide, and look at those lists whenever I felt bad, to make me feel better. That was the entire therapy! And she admitted that she wasn't even qualified yet. I've totally given up on therapy actually helping me, it's all shit. I'm only toughing it out because of my benefit claim.
Yeah as far as I know, the most up-to-date consensus is talk therapy is basically useless. It can help diagnose problems in the same way going over what chemicals you've been exposed to throughout your life can diagnose cancer, but that's about it. Diagnosing the cancer through empirical testing? Hahaaha nope!
I'd say stick with whatever gets you your benefits and seek out CBT on your own, preferably with something like a support group (even if it's online), with a focus on learning Mindfulness and Radical Acceptance. They won't solve your problems, but they will make them easier to deal with. They're more like skills you learn and improve upon. Everyone on the planet should be taught CBT just like we teach everyone hygiene. That won't happen, though, since psychiatric resources are already too thin. Radical Acceptance is especially useful for Marxism's dialectical materialism because they have a lot of overlap in how we view the world.
I wish I was more familiar with the UK system, but I'm not. I'd be able to point you to some stuff here in the US otherwise.
I'm glad to hear others say talk therapy is useless. Online (especially reddit), people are always going on about how it's so great, everyone should get therapy, it solves all your problems, etc. It's been feeling like gaslighting, like "if therapy doesn't fix you then YOU aren't putting enough effort in." It feels no different than the bible telling people if they have enough faith they can move mountains.
I don't think I can get therapy elsewhere because it costs money, which I don't have. I don't even want therapy anyway, I've accepted my situation already. The therapist even said all she can do for me is get me to accept my situation and I'd already done that before I even met her. The one thing she can do is help me get my benefits reinstated but she just seems utterly opposed to that.
Anyway I've had several therapists before and none were any good at all. Years ago I was at university and I was walking home from the supermarket one evening when I was grabbed off the street and sexually assaulted by a gang of 4 men - total strangers. The university provided a counsellor/therapist who was also useless. One of the things she did was try to get me to empathise with my attackers, get me to imagine what problems they'd been going through that drove them to act the way they did towards me. I can't begin to tell you how infuriating it is, even now, to remember that. And the police were even worse. It's all crap.
Things are louder than usual today
Nerve pain is fucking bullshit FOOT Y U NO STAY FINE?
Don't forget your knee, thigh, lower back, shoulders, what feels like random electrical shocks, it's fucked
Can anyone tell me about air filters? No energy to go look for information
Heard they can provide some protection from the COVID in an indoors space? How effective is that? I will probably move back to my family soon, they go outside a lot more often and I worry about catching COVID from them.
How big is the air filter? Do you just put it in a corner of the room or what? Are they noisy?
look up corsi-rosenthal boxes when you're feeling up to it. the tl;dr is that you use a/c filters and a box fan. my understanding is that they are very effective for small, enclosed spaces.
if noise is a concern i have seen some made with tiny filters and desktop pc fans and the like. the main takeaway here is that they're relatively easy to make and afford.
chat how do i stop my body from injuring itself by being perpetually tensed up
Short-term solution could be muscle relaxants.
Massage can help (I am skeptical of chiropractics though)
Try looking up the Alexander Technique, it really helped me with being overly tense. If there is a group class near you (sometimes music/dance/performing arts schools have them) you should try it but it's hard to learn without an in person teacher.
Something that helped me is realizing that any muscle group that is tense has an opposing muscle group that, if tensed up, can allow the opposing ones to relax.
Examples: bicep/tricep, lower back and abs (especially sitting!), upper back/upper chest, trapezius muscles/scapular muscles, and in the neck, occipital ligaments in the back vs the ones in the front (but also, gravity can pull your chin downwards to relieve tension in the back of the neck.)
Re: fine motor function. I've been really busy lately, extremely exhausted, and I can barely do anything involving fine motor. I'm struggling to type this right now, I type fast and am used to having to backspace, but this is taking me so much longer to type right now. Literally every couple of words. Was really bad today when I kept messing up and bumping the trackpad of my computer while taking notes. It would move the cursor to a different spot and then mess up other sections of the notes, which I had to take time to fix.
Sorry for venting yet again, it's just frustrating, because I don't feel like there's much I can really do to help with the problem. I won't do this again this week, I promise
Anyway, should really post something positive at least. I'm somehow managing my really large load of coursework right now,
although it's probably why my spoons are as depleted as they are.Hey, at least I think we got some of those spoons back
I think you commented in the old mega right on the buzzer @HexaSnoot@hexbear.net. Bringing it over here to answer:
People tend to graduate from Maslow's Hierarchy (though far too few) on to things like Bronfenbrenner's Ecological Systems Theory:

While that one is better and it doesn't fall trap to hyperindividualistic nonsense, I think this one falls into a different trap: "the net that catches everything catches nothing". I could talk about the arrows but there's no fucking point. Either point them somewhere useful or if you can't do that then your diagram is designed incorrectly or you are being patronising of your audience.
I'm partial to the Dahlgren and Whitehead model, despite its flaws:
It's simple enough to grasp without requiring an hour long lecture first. It provides key information without listing every goddamn detail (Is the chronosystem in Bronfenbrenner really necessary?? Do you genuinely need to represent the flow of time, that the things in the present come from the moment that directly preceded them and so on? [Is it too late to do a coconut tree joke? Would that be in poor taste now?] Do you really need to tell people that time affects everything? Why did you feel the need to call it a chronosystem - was "time" or "history" too simple? Would a two-sided arrow with the downwards poiting one labeled as "past" and the one pointing to the surface layer labeled as "present" be too simple and intuitive to grasp? What, did you run out of space to talk about the flow of ideas and neuronal networks and the thermohaline conveyor and intra-religious conflict fuelled by schisms?)
The problems with this one are there too - it's explicitly depoliticised, the green part is okay but it's not really very cogent but it's more like a scattershot of things that Dahlgren and Whitehead tried to list 10 factors for but they only managed to phone in 8 before calling it good; agricultural production factors matter yet manufacturing production factors are absent (tell me you're living in a so-called "post-industrial" country without telling me), the centre doesn't show it in this one but other ones are revised to have a family to make it less individualistic and yet in doing so it either ignores intrafamiliar factors or it just kinda shoehorns them it "There - a family. Now you fill in the blanks!" and it either centres the nuclear family (Can you tell which countries this is made for and which type of country it was made in yet?) or they put grandma in so she can be in the nice picture as well before they shuffle her back off to the nursing home.
iirc maslow stole from indigenous people and the more direct descriptions of those original ideas seemed better as well.
Not me, in the previous comment chain with the locked mega that you didn't see that led to this comment:
i did thing. i feel just enough strength to do more thing. things are important. i am proud of myself.
it really sucks when ur disabled but if u don't get on with the things then eventually it will be catastrophic so u just gotta do the things, but also be careful not to push urself in such a way that it makes u worse. i even went to a series of classes on pacing that were offered by the health service a few years ago and i put it into practice best i can. but there's just something about like the material conditions of life, and how sometimes there is no chance to rest.
Awesome! doing things is so hard, I'm glad you were able to get there. and yeah I feel that about needing to do things but not having the energy to do them and then having them spiral into catastrophe.
thank u
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i would really like to get an autism diagnosis, because it feels like it's the root cause of a lot of my social issues, and i would really like support for dealing with that. and it might help towards getting disability aid ig but my doc said i should qualify without it
but the wait time for adult diagnosis is a year
I've been trialling a drop-in peer support space run via the game Webfishing. I'm auDHD and I reasonably knowledgeable about the ins-and-outs of autism and late diagnosis.
You're welcome to join the ping list for when I notify people of the upcoming drop-in peer support space so you can chat with me or whoever else is in there, if you're interested.
Currently I've only really been promoting it on the neurodiverse comm so the autistic power levels of the server are off the charts
oh sure i'd appreciate it, can't promise i'll attend but i'd like to be pinged if i feel up to it. thanks for the offer!
Don't sweat it, there's no participation requirements or anything. Just come in if the server is live and you feel up for it.
Welcome to the ping list!
::: spoiler publicly journaling a little sitting here basically fighting the part of my brain that wants to scream about this dumb website. i've settled into a calm fog that i assume is just me putting off the emotions until it's appropriate to deal with them :::
The chronic pain is paining these past couple weeks. Moving up and down the whole left side of my body, every day itās a fun guessing game of which area will be killing me when I wake up. Sometimes it switches over to the right side just to keep things interesting. The usual mitigations (heat, self-massage/myofascial release, stretching, NSAIDs) are not mitigating and itās grinding me down. Idk what triggered it. Could be anything or nothing š« I think itās the combo of colder temps, financial stress, and the political situation here in the US.
I wish I could exercise more!! I was getting back into a good routine and it was helping my mental health a lot and in some ways seems to help my body feel better but then in other ways makes it worse.
My migraines have been unstoppable for weeks, too, and probably from the same causes. It's bad out here, folks.
me too, but I keep hurting myself š need to find a pilates instructor with EDS
what's your favorite method?
New mega is up everybody! https://hexbear.net/post/3924512