Why the FUCK would I want to be living in space? Bitch, the food air water and gravity are HERE.
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Mark with a Z - 2mon
But in space amazon can own them!
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GenosseFlosse @feddit.org - 2mon
Because tech billionaires can charge money for all of that in space!
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pyre @lemmy.world - 2mon
that's the main reason they actually hope they can do it. it fucking bothers them so much that they can't charge you for breathing.
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DBT @lemmy.world - 2mon
NGL I want off this planet.
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Taleya @aussie.zone - 2mon
I like this planet, they can fuck off.
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Echo Dot - 2mon
I want off this planet onto a different earth-like planet in another star system, but even the most delusional billionaire doesn't think that we'll have access to other systems anytime soon.
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sp3ctr4l @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2mon
There's nowhere else to go.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at
least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not
yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
Yes, that's obviously horseshit if by 'soon', you mean the next 25 to 50 years.
We do not have anywhere close to the technology or infrastructure or underlying economic/sociopolitical integrity to be able to attempt even getting 10,000 regularly people living in space within a decade from now.
Just because Bezos says something doesn't mean it is true or reasonable or accurate.
Bezos is giving you a fanciful dream to embrace, while the world that he himself disproportionately shaped and transformed to his will... is actively crumbling and falling apart, for everyone with a net worth under ~10 to ~100 million dollars.
He says he is planning to build an at least mostly self sufficient solar panel manufacturing complex, on the moon, using moon dust as input material.
Amazon could not figure out how to make a working grocery store with a contactless payment paradigm.
They recently had a little bit of an oopsie after letting go of thousands of employees... that resulted in an internet brownout, that caused something like $200 billion of economic damage.
They are notorious for running their logistics services via horrific working conditions.
Remember when aerial drones were gonna deliver all our packages to us?
You... you trust this guy, these people, when they just ... say they're workshopping something, that it's all gonna work out just fine?
Don't get me wrong, Blue Origin is a lot less ludicrous of an operation than SpaceX, but ... this is still a fanciful, near delusional level, aspirational goal from Bezos, not some kind of master plan of 5 5 year plans all meticulously worked out, accounting for every possible contingency, that is just guaranteed to work.
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DBT @lemmy.world - 2mon
Brother (or sister), I was just making a joke comment on a post about people living in space. I do appreciate your concern tho.
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floofloof @lemmy.ca - 2mon
"I believe, in the next couple of decades, there will be millions of people living in space. That's how fast this is going to accelerate," he said.
Jeff Bezos has been saying this stuff for a while. It's not clear whether he's just hyping his rockets, but he seems genuinely delusional and detached from reality. I remember an interview in which he was beside himself with enthusiasm for the idea that humanity was going to spread billions of people throughout the whole solar system. To most of us it's not clear why this is supposed to be a good thing, especially if these people will all be abused by mega corporations like Amazon. And it's utterly impossible. Besides, most people would prefer to do anything at all to try to save Earth from the ravages of capitalists like Bezos. But of course these techbro assholes prefer to live in sci-fi fantasies than actually have to pay their workers and their taxes and clean up their pollution.
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JohnnyFlapHoleSeed - 2mon
We should shoot his ass into space in the Apollo 13 capsule with all the manuals, and let him know that he has to safely navigate it around the moon and back to earth by himself, and if he does, we'll let him live.
He'll die within 2 days
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Tollana1234567 @lemmy.today - 2mon
i prefer him in a titan ICBM into space.
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blackbrook - 1mon
Let's be sure to send him with his bimbos and a couple of bottles of champagne to shake and spray.
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burble @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2mon
If he meant it, he would be pumping more resources into Blue Origin's Orbital Reef space station concept instead of sitting around and waiting for NASA to fund it. Vast is planning to launch a little 4 person private space station next year. Blue should have been way ahead of them.
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Em Adespoton - 2mon
Jeff, my boy: Newsflash — humanity has ALWAYS lived in space. We’ve got an awesome orbital station that manages food, climate, entertainment, and almost everything else we’ve ever needed.
Are you calling for us to abandon ship for an inferior product?
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RecallMadness @lemmy.nz - 2mon
One wholly owned, serviced, and supplied by Amazon.
But don’t worry. Orbital Prime is only $999 a year and includes unlimited deliveries and six return trips to land. (For now)
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mech @feddit.org - 2mon
swipe card
declined
oxygen pump shuts off
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TheV2 @programming.dev - 2mon
Why did Jeff Bezos not distribute his earthly posessions across the world to everyone already? He will live in space soon anyway.
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Echo Dot - 2mon
"Jeff bezos says" has the same level of legitimacy as people going "as a mother". Yeah he's rich but he's also mind numbingly stupid. Why do I care about anything he has to say because none of it is reasonable logical or relevant.
Is rocket doesn't even get above the karmen line and takes about six people at a time. How are millions of people even going to get into space with that kind of transport system?
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burble @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2mon
Let's at least hate accurately. Blue Origin is working on a ton of stuff, just super slowly. Their orbital rocket, New Glenn, should have its 2nd launch in a few weeks. They're working on a space station, Orbital Reef, but I have no idea what the timeline is. They're also allegedly working on an orbital crew capsule, but that has almost zero public info.
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Echo Dot - 2mon
I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.
If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.
Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.
Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.
So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™
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burble @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2mon
Agreed, but your original 2nd paragraph made it seem like Blue is only doing New Shepherd. If Bezos wants a million people in space during his lifetime, he needs to be full speed ahead, "build it and they will come", on Orbital Reef modules, the rumored 7 seat New Glenn orbital capsule, lunar surface resource extraction and refinement... Massive investments in transportation, science, manufacturing, and tourism in cislunar space.
Instead, I'm guessing the progression will be more like:
Today: 10 people in orbit (the regular crew for ISS + Tiangong)
Record: 19 people in orbit (regular crew, second Soyuz, stranded Starliner crew, Dragon free flyer)
5 years prediction: Break 20 (some mix of station crew handovers, Tiangong expansion, US commercial station/module, Gaganyaan, Mangzhou, Orion, Starship)
10 years prediction: Break 50
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melsaskca @lemmy.ca - 2mon
Hey Jeff, being good at buying something for a dollar and selling it for two doesn't mean you're a genius. Salesmen shouldn't be giving advice like that.
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FistingEnthusiast - 2mon
"I don't understand why people on the verge or starvation and ruin aren't happy with me indulging in pointless ego-projects?"
He's a cunt
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CarbonIceDragon @pawb.social - 2mon
I long for days when tech CEOs weren't so vocally obsessed with space, such that taking about space development could lead to interesting discussion of what a realistic timeframe actually is and what progress can be made, rather than just an assumption that one is a Musk or Bezos fanboy that actually believes we can do the work of centuries in 20 years somehow by giving the people that aready have too much money, even more money.
I guess this means he's going to give all his Amazon employees a pay raise equivalent to his own salary so that everyone will be equally financially able to travel to space.
no. no they won't. it won't happen until we can manufacture in space with automation. We will need to be close to mechanisms that can manufacture themselves for it to be doable.
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Maeve - 2mon
So, I'm not digging through all my comments to find it, but I've said a while back they're planning to take the money, colonize space and take enough regular people to be slaves and leave the rest of us here to deal with the mess they made.
God only knows the mess they can make here, while making a worse mess of Earth and maybe the galaxy.
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Beacon - 2mon
Nah, they'll stay where it's best for a person to be, which is on earth. Space is a great place to visit but it's not gonna be a more pleasant place to stay than earth for a long time if ever
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huf [he/him] - 2mon
antarctica is like a billion times nicer than space, and they're not moving there, are they?
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burble @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 2mon
They have to finish warming the planet enough to thaw Antarctica before they move there and start mining it
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Tollana1234567 @lemmy.today - 2mon
its also the driest desert on earth. its free real estate.
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thegr8goldfish @startrek.website - 2mon
So you're saying they're Gou'lds, then? Who has Stargate future on their doomsday bingo card?
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Maeve - 2mon
Robert Heinlein or some other sci-fi writer wrote about it in the 60s or 70s, and the ruling class seems intent on using dystopian sci-fi as instruction manuals, so sure, pick your character from any tale.
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Tollana1234567 @lemmy.today - 2mon
goa'ulds have the luxury of using a stargate or a ha'tak to escape a planet when the people revolt. these fools think they have a spaceship to escape with.
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azuth - 2mon
I mean, they are stupid cocaine-brained man-children, but it would be history's greatest fuckup to *choose * space over Earth. No matter how much we manage to fuck it up, it will always be more suitable for life than space or mars.
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threelonmusketeers - 2mon
it will always be more suitable for life than space
Not always. Eventually, our sun will expand and render Earth too hot for life.
Do we need to leave Earth today? No. Do we need to leave Earth soon? No. Is it wise to make long-term plans? Yes.
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2mon
It's definitely their plans. That is why posadism is the next step of the unstoppable human progress. Communism from the sky.
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spacecadet [he/him] - 2mon
The video of him with William Shatner after Shatner just touched down from his space trip will make you hate Bezos even more than you already do, I guarantee it
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ComradeSharkfucker - 2mon
Ok sure but will I be able to afford food?
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2mon
you can order your daily ration of amazon goo from amazon neural interface.
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calidris [he/him, comrade/them] - 2mon
You don't have to order it. It's regularly injected into your stomach to ensure acceptable productivity levels during your 16 hour work day. No more wasteful lunch breaks!
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Maeve - 2mon
You will have a shock collar and like it.
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GreenKnight23 @lemmy.world - 2mon
you first, dickhead.
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ShaggySnacks @lemmy.myserv.one - 2mon
Billionaries love to huff their petrid farts.
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NuraShiny [any] - 2mon
No they won't Jeff, fuck you and shut up.
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DragonTypeWyvern @midwest.social - 2mon
Even if they did the difference between a billion and a million is about a billion.
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NuraShiny [any] - 2mon
I am not sure this reply was meant for me. But to answer what I think you mean:
There is no way in hell that millions of people will live in space in you or my lifetime. Not even thousands of people. Not even luxury gay space communism could be enacted that quickly if we got a communist world government with no opposition tomorrow. We don't have the technology to do it. People can visit space, but they cannot live there. We might get a moon colony or something, but that would be a few dozen people tops, getting constantly supplied from earth.
This ain't the kind of new frontier where the white man can just rob the people already there and live off of that.
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Clot - 2mon
Billionaires are so delusional
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edgemaster72 @lemmy.world - 2mon
Probably because that doesn't pay for rent, gas, groceries, clothes, utilities, bills, or healthcare. Are you accepting "will live in space soon" as payment on your website, Jeff? No? Well fuck off then.
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Tollana1234567 @lemmy.today - 2mon
isnt me or bezos is taking alot of PEDs right now. he doesnt want to be seen a scrawny tech ceo.
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Duamerthrax @lemmy.world - 2mon
They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.
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Tollana1234567 @lemmy.today - 2mon
and some of them like thiel and bryan johnson, is spending millions a year on "life extending" pseudoscience treatments/research. bryan is a little more extreme than the others.
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captainlezbian @lemmy.world - 2mon
Unless I'm on a federation starship I don't want to live in space. I want to live on earth where my species belongs
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resipsaloquitur @lemmy.world - 2mon
Wut.
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SPRUNT @lemmy.world - 2mon
Millions of people.... On a planet of billions.
Wasn't there a Matt Damon movie about that?
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caoimhinr - 2mon
Elysium
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OldGrayDog - 2mon
Everyone is missing the point, the extreme rich will be living in space as they continue to rape the earth of all its resources for their own sick pleasure.
nemeski in space
Jeff Bezos Says He Doesn't Understand Why Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'
https://tech.yahoo.com/science/articles/jeff-bezos-says-doesnt-understand-190104082.htmlWhy the FUCK would I want to be living in space? Bitch, the food air water and gravity are HERE.
But in space amazon can own them!
Because tech billionaires can charge money for all of that in space!
that's the main reason they actually hope they can do it. it fucking bothers them so much that they can't charge you for breathing.
NGL I want off this planet.
I like this planet, they can fuck off.
I want off this planet onto a different earth-like planet in another star system, but even the most delusional billionaire doesn't think that we'll have access to other systems anytime soon.
There's nowhere else to go.
Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot
Jeff Bezos, This post
Yes, that's obviously horseshit if by 'soon', you mean the next 25 to 50 years.
We do not have anywhere close to the technology or infrastructure or underlying economic/sociopolitical integrity to be able to attempt even getting 10,000 regularly people living in space within a decade from now.
Just because Bezos says something doesn't mean it is true or reasonable or accurate.
Bezos is giving you a fanciful dream to embrace, while the world that he himself disproportionately shaped and transformed to his will... is actively crumbling and falling apart, for everyone with a net worth under ~10 to ~100 million dollars.
He says he is planning to build an at least mostly self sufficient solar panel manufacturing complex, on the moon, using moon dust as input material.
Amazon could not figure out how to make a working grocery store with a contactless payment paradigm.
They recently had a little bit of an oopsie after letting go of thousands of employees... that resulted in an internet brownout, that caused something like $200 billion of economic damage.
They are notorious for running their logistics services via horrific working conditions.
Remember when aerial drones were gonna deliver all our packages to us?
You... you trust this guy, these people, when they just ... say they're workshopping something, that it's all gonna work out just fine?
Don't get me wrong, Blue Origin is a lot less ludicrous of an operation than SpaceX, but ... this is still a fanciful, near delusional level, aspirational goal from Bezos, not some kind of master plan of 5 5 year plans all meticulously worked out, accounting for every possible contingency, that is just guaranteed to work.
Brother (or sister), I was just making a joke comment on a post about people living in space. I do appreciate your concern tho.
Jeff Bezos has been saying this stuff for a while. It's not clear whether he's just hyping his rockets, but he seems genuinely delusional and detached from reality. I remember an interview in which he was beside himself with enthusiasm for the idea that humanity was going to spread billions of people throughout the whole solar system. To most of us it's not clear why this is supposed to be a good thing, especially if these people will all be abused by mega corporations like Amazon. And it's utterly impossible. Besides, most people would prefer to do anything at all to try to save Earth from the ravages of capitalists like Bezos. But of course these techbro assholes prefer to live in sci-fi fantasies than actually have to pay their workers and their taxes and clean up their pollution.
We should shoot his ass into space in the Apollo 13 capsule with all the manuals, and let him know that he has to safely navigate it around the moon and back to earth by himself, and if he does, we'll let him live.
He'll die within 2 days
i prefer him in a titan ICBM into space.
Let's be sure to send him with his bimbos and a couple of bottles of champagne to shake and spray.
If he meant it, he would be pumping more resources into Blue Origin's Orbital Reef space station concept instead of sitting around and waiting for NASA to fund it. Vast is planning to launch a little 4 person private space station next year. Blue should have been way ahead of them.
Jeff, my boy: Newsflash — humanity has ALWAYS lived in space. We’ve got an awesome orbital station that manages food, climate, entertainment, and almost everything else we’ve ever needed.
Are you calling for us to abandon ship for an inferior product?
One wholly owned, serviced, and supplied by Amazon.
But don’t worry. Orbital Prime is only $999 a year and includes unlimited deliveries and six return trips to land. (For now)
Why did Jeff Bezos not distribute his earthly posessions across the world to everyone already? He will live in space soon anyway.
"Jeff bezos says" has the same level of legitimacy as people going "as a mother". Yeah he's rich but he's also mind numbingly stupid. Why do I care about anything he has to say because none of it is reasonable logical or relevant.
Is rocket doesn't even get above the karmen line and takes about six people at a time. How are millions of people even going to get into space with that kind of transport system?
Let's at least hate accurately. Blue Origin is working on a ton of stuff, just super slowly. Their orbital rocket, New Glenn, should have its 2nd launch in a few weeks. They're working on a space station, Orbital Reef, but I have no idea what the timeline is. They're also allegedly working on an orbital crew capsule, but that has almost zero public info.
I know about all the stuff he's working on but even if it all turns out to work the way he claims, it's not going to be able to transport millions of people into space over the next few years.
If we take the next few years to mean a decade from now then maybe will be at a point where extremely rich billionaires can pay to spend a weekend space on orbital reef or something similar. But I can't imagine will be at the point of millions of people being in space on a semi-permanent basis, not within a decade, maybe within 50 years depending on how SpaceX fair with starship, but that stretching the definition of soon a bit far.
Elon musk said that starship might be able to transport 100 people at a time, which is musk speak for 15 people. But let's say it can transport 100 people at a time, it can get to the moon and back again within 6 days, and they have multiple ships so that they can launch pretty much continuously with one launch every 24 hours. That sounds far fetched but it is remotely reasonable so let's go with it.
Assuming we were already at that level of capability to transport 1 million people to the moon with that method would take nearly 28 years to complete. So we'd be looking at 2048 as the date that 1 million people would be on the moon. But we don't have that capability yet so there's also however much lead time we would need to get to that point.
So even if we started now, as in today, it would be nearly the middle of the century before we achieved his goal, yeah that's not Soon™
Agreed, but your original 2nd paragraph made it seem like Blue is only doing New Shepherd. If Bezos wants a million people in space during his lifetime, he needs to be full speed ahead, "build it and they will come", on Orbital Reef modules, the rumored 7 seat New Glenn orbital capsule, lunar surface resource extraction and refinement... Massive investments in transportation, science, manufacturing, and tourism in cislunar space.
Instead, I'm guessing the progression will be more like:
Hey Jeff, being good at buying something for a dollar and selling it for two doesn't mean you're a genius. Salesmen shouldn't be giving advice like that.
"I don't understand why people on the verge or starvation and ruin aren't happy with me indulging in pointless ego-projects?"
He's a cunt
I long for days when tech CEOs weren't so vocally obsessed with space, such that taking about space development could lead to interesting discussion of what a realistic timeframe actually is and what progress can be made, rather than just an assumption that one is a Musk or Bezos fanboy that actually believes we can do the work of centuries in 20 years somehow by giving the people that aready have too much money, even more money.
In Space!!
where slavery laws don't exist
https://reddthat.com/pictrs/image/0664ee5a-af4c-4bc9-91d1-99663a56f68f.gif
hey now this dude wanted to go to space to escape capitalism, not to spread it. he's infinitely better than this dickhead jeff bozo.
Soon™
Jeff Bezos
Says HeDoesn't UnderstandWhy Anybody Alive Now Would Be 'Discouraged'—Because Soon, 'Millions Of People Will Be Living In Space'Fixed that headline.
He would make breathable air a subscription based service and I'm not for it.
Perri Air
I guess this means he's going to give all his Amazon employees a pay raise equivalent to his own salary so that everyone will be equally financially able to travel to space.
Obligatory: Mars for the Rich, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
no. no they won't. it won't happen until we can manufacture in space with automation. We will need to be close to mechanisms that can manufacture themselves for it to be doable.
So, I'm not digging through all my comments to find it, but I've said a while back they're planning to take the money, colonize space and take enough regular people to be slaves and leave the rest of us here to deal with the mess they made.
God only knows the mess they can make here, while making a worse mess of Earth and maybe the galaxy.
Nah, they'll stay where it's best for a person to be, which is on earth. Space is a great place to visit but it's not gonna be a more pleasant place to stay than earth for a long time if ever
antarctica is like a billion times nicer than space, and they're not moving there, are they?
They have to finish warming the planet enough to thaw Antarctica before they move there and start mining it
its also the driest desert on earth. its free real estate.
So you're saying they're Gou'lds, then? Who has Stargate future on their doomsday bingo card?
Robert Heinlein or some other sci-fi writer wrote about it in the 60s or 70s, and the ruling class seems intent on using dystopian sci-fi as instruction manuals, so sure, pick your character from any tale.
goa'ulds have the luxury of using a stargate or a ha'tak to escape a planet when the people revolt. these fools think they have a spaceship to escape with.
I mean, they are stupid cocaine-brained man-children, but it would be history's greatest fuckup to *choose * space over Earth. No matter how much we manage to fuck it up, it will always be more suitable for life than space or mars.
Not always. Eventually, our sun will expand and render Earth too hot for life.
Do we need to leave Earth today? No. Do we need to leave Earth soon? No. Is it wise to make long-term plans? Yes.
It's definitely their plans. That is why posadism is the next step of the unstoppable human progress. Communism from the sky.
The video of him with William Shatner after Shatner just touched down from his space trip will make you hate Bezos even more than you already do, I guarantee it
Ok sure but will I be able to afford food?
you can order your daily ration of amazon goo from amazon neural interface.
You don't have to order it. It's regularly injected into your stomach to ensure acceptable productivity levels during your 16 hour work day. No more wasteful lunch breaks!
You will have a shock collar and like it.
you first, dickhead.
Billionaries love to huff their petrid farts.
No they won't Jeff, fuck you and shut up.
Even if they did the difference between a billion and a million is about a billion.
I am not sure this reply was meant for me. But to answer what I think you mean:
There is no way in hell that millions of people will live in space in you or my lifetime. Not even thousands of people. Not even luxury gay space communism could be enacted that quickly if we got a communist world government with no opposition tomorrow. We don't have the technology to do it. People can visit space, but they cannot live there. We might get a moon colony or something, but that would be a few dozen people tops, getting constantly supplied from earth.
This ain't the kind of new frontier where the white man can just rob the people already there and live off of that.
Billionaires are so delusional
Probably because that doesn't pay for rent, gas, groceries, clothes, utilities, bills, or healthcare. Are you accepting "will live in space soon" as payment on your website, Jeff? No? Well fuck off then.
isnt me or bezos is taking alot of PEDs right now. he doesnt want to be seen a scrawny tech ceo.
They're all into body modification. Musk is taking HGH and that's why his chest is like that.
and some of them like thiel and bryan johnson, is spending millions a year on "life extending" pseudoscience treatments/research. bryan is a little more extreme than the others.
Unless I'm on a federation starship I don't want to live in space. I want to live on earth where my species belongs
Wut.
Millions of people.... On a planet of billions.
Wasn't there a Matt Damon movie about that?
Elysium
Everyone is missing the point, the extreme rich will be living in space as they continue to rape the earth of all its resources for their own sick pleasure.
Jeff: don’t worry I got this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1qfVXLQBygw&pp=ygUaamVmZiBiZXpvcyB3aWxsaWFtIHNoYXRuZXI%3D
Yeaaaah. Not you though.
Yeah he didnt mentiom Only the elite get to live on earth.
No I meant not him. Coz he will be back to the earth. As poop. Coz he will be eaten.
Has he been taking steroids?
Okay Jeff. How about less talk, more New Glenn launches?
By upvoting this thread you are giving this guy visibility and not others
Well it’s frigging Bozo so trying to bury his presence won’t work.
On the other hand it is displaying all the anger and disdain towards him.
Yeah I mean given that magic and superpowers are just around the corner people should be super stoked.
Disobey and it's out the airlock for you...
Once they are inside a cooperate controlled moon-base, they will depend on their overlords for food and water shipments from earth. Space Feudalism?