"Russian forces have advanced on several fronts recently. President Vladimir V. Putin signaled after talks with U.S. officials that he was not budging from demands."
cfgaussian - 5day
“The future looks really, really grim for Ukraine”
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Maeve - 5day
I'm wondering how Russia will handle Zelensky?
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cfgaussian - 5day
Until he signs the surrender they will do nothing. He is so corrupt and so obsessed with throwing away his army for PR victories that him being where he is makes fighting the war much easier for Russia. The last thing they want is him being replaced with someone competent. That being said, they probably wouldn't mind if he was deposed in a coup or forced to hold elections, because that too will destabilize the regime in Kiev and bring Russia closer to achieving all its goals.
After the conflict is over, that's another matter entirely. It is not at all guaranteed that he makes it out alive. The Nazis around him may decide to off him for the perceived betrayal/capitulation. Or Western intelligence could decide he is too much of a liability and knows too much if left alive. Or maybe regular Ukrainians put him on trial for the enormous death and suffering he has brought them. Or whoever overthrows him in Ukraine decides to hand him over to Russia alive as a show of good will, where he will then be put on trial.
Frankly I think the last two options are unlikely, if only because the West will never allow it. A trial would be much too embarrassing for them.
If he does make it out he will flee to "Israel" or Miami, or perhaps some European country cucked enough to take him in. But there is a good chance that in a few years time when he is out of the public spotlight, the Russian special services will see to it that he is hunted down and given the Stepan Bandera treatment. There are enough people in the Russian security apparatus who have said that he will not get away with his crimes. One way or another this will end badly for him.
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Maeve - 5day
I'll be surprised if he makes it out alive. Who gets to him first is anyone's guess. And I'm not so sure he'd last long in Miami. It never occurred to me the Zionists may let him come there, but it's certainly possible. Do you think he'd live long, if so? Perhaps he'd be conscripted. 🤔
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cfgaussian - 5day
Also, like most of the Kiev regime elites and oligarchs, he has dual citizenship. Already a few of the ones who got caught in corruption schemes fled to "Israel". And he owns multiple villas in Miami and occupied Palestine, possibly even some in Europe. But the clock will always be ticking. Remember that there are a lot of Russians in "Israel", which makes it very easy for the Russian intelligence services to infiltrate or find a willing asset. Lots of guns there too...
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Maeve - 5day
Hmm, that puts into perspective his desperate clinging to continue fighting, thanks for that. He's really over his head much more than he probably imagined, isn't he?
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Collatz_problem [comrade/them] - 5day
I don't think Russia will actually care about him. He's just a talking head, not a real power.
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cfgaussian - 5day
That's partly true but also partly not. He has managed to consolidate and centralize a lot of power under the presidential office in Ukraine, and there wouldn't be such intense power struggles going on if he was just a figure head. The Kiev regime is a creation of the West, and the US has a lot of leverage over it, but the regime also has developed a degree of autonomy by playing their European sponsors against the US.
Regardless how you see it, ultimately the only thing that matters is this: As far as a lot of Russians and Ukrainians are concerned, his crimes are very real.
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EuthanatosMurderhobo - 5day
By not acceptin him as a valid signer of anything, I hope. He's an expired president and anything he signs can be ignored on that basis.
I mean, it's not like I take any agreement with the west seriously, but I at least want them to be blatantly in the wrong when they break it.
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Maeve - 5day
it’s not like I take any agreement with the west seriously, but I at least want them to be blatantly in the wrong when they break it.
It would be for everyone but the West to know, sadly. Until I came here to investigate claims made on the other servers, I bought the Western story line, hook, line, and sinker. But I wasn't doubting clickable links to Western sources that I was shown.
I feel kind of embarrassed looking back, but kind of not. There was a lot going on then, personally and the media was blasting sound byte insanity 24-7. It still does, I've just learned a little bit since then.
cfgaussian in ukraine_war_news
New York Times: "Battlefield Picture Worsening for Ukraine as Trump Pushes Peace Plan"
https://archive.ph/20251206214549/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/06/world/europe/ukraine-pokrovsk-battlefield-russia.html"Russian forces have advanced on several fronts recently. President Vladimir V. Putin signaled after talks with U.S. officials that he was not budging from demands."
I'm wondering how Russia will handle Zelensky?
Until he signs the surrender they will do nothing. He is so corrupt and so obsessed with throwing away his army for PR victories that him being where he is makes fighting the war much easier for Russia. The last thing they want is him being replaced with someone competent. That being said, they probably wouldn't mind if he was deposed in a coup or forced to hold elections, because that too will destabilize the regime in Kiev and bring Russia closer to achieving all its goals.
After the conflict is over, that's another matter entirely. It is not at all guaranteed that he makes it out alive. The Nazis around him may decide to off him for the perceived betrayal/capitulation. Or Western intelligence could decide he is too much of a liability and knows too much if left alive. Or maybe regular Ukrainians put him on trial for the enormous death and suffering he has brought them. Or whoever overthrows him in Ukraine decides to hand him over to Russia alive as a show of good will, where he will then be put on trial.
Frankly I think the last two options are unlikely, if only because the West will never allow it. A trial would be much too embarrassing for them.
If he does make it out he will flee to "Israel" or Miami, or perhaps some European country cucked enough to take him in. But there is a good chance that in a few years time when he is out of the public spotlight, the Russian special services will see to it that he is hunted down and given the Stepan Bandera treatment. There are enough people in the Russian security apparatus who have said that he will not get away with his crimes. One way or another this will end badly for him.
I'll be surprised if he makes it out alive. Who gets to him first is anyone's guess. And I'm not so sure he'd last long in Miami. It never occurred to me the Zionists may let him come there, but it's certainly possible. Do you think he'd live long, if so? Perhaps he'd be conscripted. 🤔
Also, like most of the Kiev regime elites and oligarchs, he has dual citizenship. Already a few of the ones who got caught in corruption schemes fled to "Israel". And he owns multiple villas in Miami and occupied Palestine, possibly even some in Europe. But the clock will always be ticking. Remember that there are a lot of Russians in "Israel", which makes it very easy for the Russian intelligence services to infiltrate or find a willing asset. Lots of guns there too...
Hmm, that puts into perspective his desperate clinging to continue fighting, thanks for that. He's really over his head much more than he probably imagined, isn't he?
I don't think Russia will actually care about him. He's just a talking head, not a real power.
That's partly true but also partly not. He has managed to consolidate and centralize a lot of power under the presidential office in Ukraine, and there wouldn't be such intense power struggles going on if he was just a figure head. The Kiev regime is a creation of the West, and the US has a lot of leverage over it, but the regime also has developed a degree of autonomy by playing their European sponsors against the US.
Regardless how you see it, ultimately the only thing that matters is this: As far as a lot of Russians and Ukrainians are concerned, his crimes are very real.
By not acceptin him as a valid signer of anything, I hope. He's an expired president and anything he signs can be ignored on that basis. I mean, it's not like I take any agreement with the west seriously, but I at least want them to be blatantly in the wrong when they break it.
It would be for everyone but the West to know, sadly. Until I came here to investigate claims made on the other servers, I bought the Western story line, hook, line, and sinker. But I wasn't doubting clickable links to Western sources that I was shown.
I feel kind of embarrassed looking back, but kind of not. There was a lot going on then, personally and the media was blasting sound byte insanity 24-7. It still does, I've just learned a little bit since then.