Hilarious read. Astronomical levels of cope and more projection than in an IMAX theatre.
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ - 3mon
I especially love how the article just keeps saying that US militarism is a false narrative actually
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cfgaussian - 3mon
Or how they keep crying about China starting to build these international institutions and implying that the US is so far behind them on that. Motherfucker have you never heard of NATO? The IMF? The WTO? The World Bank? The ICC? Or any of the hundreds of other organizations and institutions established after WWII to cement the US-led "rules based order"? The tens of thousands of US funded NGOs across the entire world? Even the UN itself, arguably maybe even from its inception but definitely in the period of unipolar hegemony after the dissolution of the USSR, has been used by the US as an instrument through which they can exert and legitimize their global dominance.
It is such an absurd denial and inversion of reality to insist that it is China that has now just come up with the concept of legal and institutional warfare when the US itself has been doing it for decades. Or that the US is lagging behind China and Russia in information warfare when the West practically controls the entire global information ecosystem. And then trying to justify that absurd claim by lamenting how the first amendment supposedly cripples the US's ability to fight against Russian and Chinese propaganda, as if the entire mainstream media isn't parroting the government's line in lockstep like the good little CIA assets and state department stenographers that they are. The US practically invented propaganda and mass psychological manipulation!
Talk about living in an alternate reality. Whenever i dip my toes back into the western MSM cesspool i feel like i've stepped through the looking glass into a different universe where everything is upside down, where nothing makes sense, objective reality is optional and everything is vibes, and it feels just totally surreal. And then i think about how so many people read a piece like this and to them it makes complete sense, like if you were reading Vogon poetry, or that nonsense poem about the Jabberwocky,
"twas bryllyg, and the slythy toves did gyre and gymble in the wabe"
and you just went:
"yep, totally, that makes total sense to me, i understood every word of that".
And i get it, they've been conditioned to accept a certain framing, they've internalized all of the implicit assumptions of a piece like this no matter how contradictory they are or how far removed they are from basic reality. But man does it feel strange living in a world where millions of people are like this.
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ - 3mon
Yeah, the whole article is just so hamfisted that I have hard time imagining that the writer genuinely believes anything she wrote there. I think what the article is really moaning about is the fact that western narrative is now collapsing globally, and it's basically preaching to a cult. It's like they use English words and sentence structure, but they're speaking an alien language. It's as you say, there's a whole alternate reality that exists within the western mainstream bubble that's completely divorced from the actual material world we inhabit.
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REEEEvolution - 3mon
Motherfucker have you never heard of NATO? The IMF? The WTO? The World Bank? The ICC? Or any of the hundreds of other organizations and institutions established after WWII to cement the US-led “rules based order”?
The "rules based order" is a new thing. The old institutions you mentioned now become a hinderence to the US, so it leaves, sabotages or ignores them. Up to the early 2000s it was the "international community", with these institutions. Now it is the "rules based order", with a nebulous set to rules.
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 3mon
You say its nebulous but it is super obvious, it is whatever the US says that is the Rules in the Rules based Order
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REEEEvolution - 3mon
Bingo!
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cfgaussian - 3mon
Different branding, same product.
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REEEEvolution - 3mon
Nah, new product. Now with even less justificating institutions.
The old one contained Imperialism, hot air and important looking institutions. The new one is Imperialism with a bit of hot air.
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sinovictorchan - 3mon
The fear mongering of Communist superpower is the only method in the West to convince them that victim blaming is blatantly flawed and maladaptive. The victim of Communism that tries to preserve brutal practices of the former Chinese warlords did use their victim status to preach that repressed people inflict the repression on them self and that repression is always avoidable.
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kredditacc - 3mon
China cannot convince the world to see the US as evil, only the US can.
Anyway, to put "42%" to the title, regardless of whether it's a fact, would make an alarmist headline. I wonder what is their intention.
yogthos in geopolitics
42% Of The World Is Buying China’s Anti-U.S. Narrative In Tianjin
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jillgoldenziel/2025/08/31/42-percent-of-the-world-is-buying-chinas-anti-us-narrative/Hilarious read. Astronomical levels of cope and more projection than in an IMAX theatre.
I especially love how the article just keeps saying that US militarism is a false narrative actually
Or how they keep crying about China starting to build these international institutions and implying that the US is so far behind them on that. Motherfucker have you never heard of NATO? The IMF? The WTO? The World Bank? The ICC? Or any of the hundreds of other organizations and institutions established after WWII to cement the US-led "rules based order"? The tens of thousands of US funded NGOs across the entire world? Even the UN itself, arguably maybe even from its inception but definitely in the period of unipolar hegemony after the dissolution of the USSR, has been used by the US as an instrument through which they can exert and legitimize their global dominance.
It is such an absurd denial and inversion of reality to insist that it is China that has now just come up with the concept of legal and institutional warfare when the US itself has been doing it for decades. Or that the US is lagging behind China and Russia in information warfare when the West practically controls the entire global information ecosystem. And then trying to justify that absurd claim by lamenting how the first amendment supposedly cripples the US's ability to fight against Russian and Chinese propaganda, as if the entire mainstream media isn't parroting the government's line in lockstep like the good little CIA assets and state department stenographers that they are. The US practically invented propaganda and mass psychological manipulation!
Talk about living in an alternate reality. Whenever i dip my toes back into the western MSM cesspool i feel like i've stepped through the looking glass into a different universe where everything is upside down, where nothing makes sense, objective reality is optional and everything is vibes, and it feels just totally surreal. And then i think about how so many people read a piece like this and to them it makes complete sense, like if you were reading Vogon poetry, or that nonsense poem about the Jabberwocky,
"twas bryllyg, and the slythy toves did gyre and gymble in the wabe"
and you just went:
"yep, totally, that makes total sense to me, i understood every word of that".
And i get it, they've been conditioned to accept a certain framing, they've internalized all of the implicit assumptions of a piece like this no matter how contradictory they are or how far removed they are from basic reality. But man does it feel strange living in a world where millions of people are like this.
Yeah, the whole article is just so hamfisted that I have hard time imagining that the writer genuinely believes anything she wrote there. I think what the article is really moaning about is the fact that western narrative is now collapsing globally, and it's basically preaching to a cult. It's like they use English words and sentence structure, but they're speaking an alien language. It's as you say, there's a whole alternate reality that exists within the western mainstream bubble that's completely divorced from the actual material world we inhabit.
The "rules based order" is a new thing. The old institutions you mentioned now become a hinderence to the US, so it leaves, sabotages or ignores them. Up to the early 2000s it was the "international community", with these institutions. Now it is the "rules based order", with a nebulous set to rules.
You say its nebulous but it is super obvious, it is whatever the US says that is the Rules in the Rules based Order
Bingo!
Different branding, same product.
Nah, new product. Now with even less justificating institutions.
The old one contained Imperialism, hot air and important looking institutions. The new one is Imperialism with a bit of hot air.
The fear mongering of Communist superpower is the only method in the West to convince them that victim blaming is blatantly flawed and maladaptive. The victim of Communism that tries to preserve brutal practices of the former Chinese warlords did use their victim status to preach that repressed people inflict the repression on them self and that repression is always avoidable.
China cannot convince the world to see the US as evil, only the US can.
Anyway, to put "42%" to the title, regardless of whether it's a fact, would make an alarmist headline. I wonder what is their intention.
It's a club and you ain't invited forbes