Ah, just in time. Eighty one years of that would have been embarassing
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huf [he/him] - 4mon
just when it's coming back in style? lol
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 4mon
And I just have to ask, how is it that we have collectivly forgotten Finnland was axis... Given they are just hiding it in checks notes 2025
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Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them] - 4mon
Considering the efforts by the Finnish air force, I'm sad to say that we're gonna have to shoulder all the blame for forgetting about this one. That's on us.
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z_poster365 - 4mon
‘But we had it first! The Nazis were actually copying us, they were jealous of how cool our aircraft looked while fighting on their side against the Soviets’ isn’t the winning argument they think it is.
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Horse {they/them} - 4mon
fun fact!
finnish air force use the swastika because of count eric von rosen, brother-in-law to hermann göring and famous swedish nazi
so while technically true that their use did (barely) predate nazi germany using it, it was the same people adopting it
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小莱卡 - 4mon
are they rebranding to azov or star of david logo?
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 4mon
They are doing BOTH at the same time
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201dberg - 4mon
Now remove all the Nazis.
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 4mon
That would mean overhalling the entire government of not just Finland but the EU... You will have to make do with symbolic changes to hide that they are Nazi Symptithisers
[Swedish] count [Eric von Rosen] used the swastika as a personal good luck charm. When he gifted a plane to the nascent air force of Sweden's newly independent neighbour in 1918 he had had a blue swastika painted on it. This Thulin Typ D was the first aircraft of the Finnish air force and subsequent planes all had his blue swastika symbol too, until 1945.
Supporters of a continued use of the symbol point out that there were no Nazis in 1918 so the air force's use of the swastika has nothing to do with Nazism.
However, while Eric von Rosen had no Nazi associations at the time of his 1918 gift, he did subsequently become a leading figure in Sweden's own national socialist movement in the 1930s. He was also a brother-in-law of senior German Nazi Herman Göring, and, according to Prof Teivainen, a personal friend of Hitler.
So the fascists adopted the swastika by way of a Swedish Count-cum-fascist.
However, while Eric von Rosen had no Nazi associations at the time of his 1918 gift, he did subsequently become a leading figure in Sweden’s own national socialist movement in the 1930s. He was also a brother-in-law of senior German Nazi Herman Göring, and, according to Prof Teivainen, a personal friend of Hitler.
The mental gymnastics here feel like a western liberal-litmus-test; if the german aesthetics of fascism could be somehow distanced from themselves then they are free to be stalwart apologists for the crimes against humanity that they consider reasonable.
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davel - 4mon
Least fascist Finn:
Ever since he’s been trying to publicly @-harass me, threaten me, and spread rumors that I’m a Russian operative. He’s banned from lemmy.ml, so his @’s are futile. Pretty sad. It’s hard to say where his lies end and his self-delusions begin. https://lemmy.world/search?sort=New&creatorId=6013947&q=davel
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darkernations - 4mon
This is partly why I don't believe in "brainwashing"; those links are his license for bigotry. It would take all of one minute to consider that if one made a similar argument for Germany (and people do) then it wouldn't absolve Germany of its fascism.
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 4mon
Remind me agian, Finland was an ally in world war 2? Oh no, they where on the Axis with Germany? And Latvia also used a Swastika? And they where also Axis? I mean this sure feels like its atleast a Nazi adjacent symbol in western usage if not just a Nazi symbol (It is the second)
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davel - 4mon
Nazi schmatzi, said the Finnish army reservist.
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☭ Comrade Pup Ivy 🇨🇺 - 4mon
Look we need the recruits to understand that they know what side of the Great Anti-Facist War they are fight on...
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Finnish Air Force plans to remove swastikas from unit flags
https://yle.fi/a/74-20179827https://archive.ph/d18u2
Ah, just in time. Eighty one years of that would have been embarassing
just when it's coming back in style? lol
And I just have to ask, how is it that we have collectivly forgotten Finnland was axis... Given they are just hiding it in checks notes 2025
Considering the efforts by the Finnish air force, I'm sad to say that we're gonna have to shoulder all the blame for forgetting about this one. That's on us.
‘But we had it first! The Nazis were actually copying us, they were jealous of how cool our aircraft looked while fighting on their side against the Soviets’ isn’t the winning argument they think it is.
fun fact!
finnish air force use the swastika because of count eric von rosen, brother-in-law to hermann göring and famous swedish nazi
so while technically true that their use did (barely) predate nazi germany using it, it was the same people adopting it
are they rebranding to azov or star of david logo?
They are doing BOTH at the same time
Now remove all the Nazis.
That would mean overhalling the entire government of not just Finland but the EU... You will have to make do with symbolic changes to hide that they are Nazi Symptithisers
Didn't they say they were doing this years ago? So are they just going to keep announcing it every 5 years and then not do it?
This is how they keep assuring us the fact they are NOT nazis... just dont think about how hard they are trying to keep it sticking around
Welp, 80 years late, but better late than never, I guess.
I’m going to miss pointing this out to Lemmy libfinns.
Edit to add my post:
The mental gymnastics here feel like a western liberal-litmus-test; if the german aesthetics of fascism could be somehow distanced from themselves then they are free to be stalwart apologists for the crimes against humanity that they consider reasonable.
Least fascist Finn:
Ever since he’s been trying to publicly @-harass me, threaten me, and spread rumors that I’m a Russian operative. He’s banned from lemmy.ml, so his @’s are futile. Pretty sad. It’s hard to say where his lies end and his self-delusions begin. https://lemmy.world/search?sort=New&creatorId=6013947&q=davel
This is partly why I don't believe in "brainwashing"; those links are his license for bigotry. It would take all of one minute to consider that if one made a similar argument for Germany (and people do) then it wouldn't absolve Germany of its fascism.
Remind me agian, Finland was an ally in world war 2? Oh no, they where on the Axis with Germany? And Latvia also used a Swastika? And they where also Axis? I mean this sure feels like its atleast a Nazi adjacent symbol in western usage if not just a Nazi symbol (It is the second)
Nazi schmatzi, said the Finnish army reservist.
Look we need the recruits to understand that they know what side of the Great Anti-Facist War they are fight on...
PFFFFFTTT HAHAHAHAHAHA
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