The worst is when they compare the DNC to the rebels, when Lucas himself said the rebels were basically the Viet Cong.
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Random Dent - 3day
It's like that old meme about how Luke is a desert farmer who is given weapons and radicalized by a bearded man in a cave, then goes off to a militia training camp and eventually blows up a government installation.
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Saymaz @lemmygrad.ml - 3day
When Luke joins the rebels against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: š„°
When a Palestinian kid joins Hamas against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: š¤¬
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woodenghost [comrade/them] - 3day
They never say: "If you don't like how the resistance operates, why don't you join it and try to change it from the inside?"
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nothx [he/him] - 3day
Noooo that only applies to electoral theater.
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Cowbee [he/they] - 3day
Yep, that's literally what it is.
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frostysauce @lemmy.world - 3day
I've literally never noticed before that Obi-Wan had a beard.
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OBJECTION! - 3day
Libs think Trump vs. Harris was like Leia vs Darth Vader when in reality it was more like Darth Vader vs Palpatine.
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Cowbee [he/they] - 3day
Bingo.
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2day
ugh I genuinely, humanely, passionately hate those people. My and my wife have been receiving calls from her friends to announce that one is now a widow, now got her parents bombed with white phosphorus, that friends were lost, and so on.
Meanwhile, these awful people were making their fictional reference like if it was a fucking videogame.
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OBJECTION! - 2day
So many of these people will play this little game where they pretend to be reluctant, like they care just as much as we do, but as much as it tears them up inside, they'll make the "rational" choice for the "lesser genocide."
Then, as soon as the leftists were out of the room, they dropped the facade and started talking about how great and wonderful Harris is and how they couldn't think of a single reason to dislike her. This wasn't the only post like that that got 1000+ upvotes, despite Lemmy being full of "reluctant" Harris voters.
A part of me wishes they'd just tell us straight up that they don't give a shit.
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eldavi - 3day
this seemed too fantastical so i had to look it up and even gemini says so. lol
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Cowbee [he/they] - 3day
Yep, he said it on camera. Even said he was jealous of the soviet filmmakers for not being beholden to the profit motive.
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Johnny_Arson [they/them] - 3day
George Lucas be like
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Cowbee [he/they] - 3day
He def had more liberal tendencies, but at least could recognize material reality.
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Johnny_Arson [they/them] - 3day
Oh yeah for sure, I was just being silly.
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Saymaz @lemmygrad.ml - 3day
The interviewer was trying put words in his mouth but then George corrected him. Mujahideen and Al qaeda were both US funded terror groups. Then he tried to shift the blame of the crimes of the American empire solely on to the British Empire and Lucas again corrected him. š Astroturfer ass interviewer!
yet another example of truth in plain sight but most people just don't know...
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robot_dog_with_gun [they/them] - 3day
i'd sooner believe a random commenter than ai hallucinations, why on earth would that crap increase your confidence?
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davel - 3day
Especially when the English-language corpora used to train LLMs are virtually exclusively anti-communist.
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Resonosity @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 3day
Anything to cope, and bury rebellion assent
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BeardededSquidward @lemmy.blahaj.zone - 2day
When progress and socialism is on the rise, libs will side with the fascists to stop its rise. Even so called moderates are to impede with progress.
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Cowbee [he/they] - 2day
Liberalism and fascism are rooted in the same base characteristics, after all.
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BeardededSquidward @lemmy.blahaj.zone - 2day
Indeed. The only real difference is the smile on the face of the liberal as they step on your head as you're drowning.
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Random Dent - 3day
My favourite one (it happens a lot in the UK and I assume in other places too) is when people say things like "I support the cause but the protest is really disruptive."
Like no shit, that's the entire point of a protest. They also sometimes complain about strikes being inconvenient for them. Oh, is this strike illustrating to you why this service is essential and it would be bad if it went away?
One time when I used to be on reddit I had an argument with someone who was against a climate protest because it could have blocked an ambulance and gotten someone killed. But this was after the protest had already happened and that had not occurred. So you don't support it because of a hypothetical disaster that you just made up, that already didn't happen? People, man
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Saymaz @lemmygrad.ml - 3day
The classic British response to protests is "Blocking the roads hurts the economy. It's terrorism."
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2day
*"I'm terrorized. Imagine if we have to suffer through protests everytime we do genocide? It's a sleepery slope" *
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nothx [he/him] - 3day
This annoys me to no endā¦
Liberals pissing and moaning about being 2 minute late to brunch because some people with convictions are peacefully standing in the road.
Meanwhile they canāt even fathom the type of revolution that western society actually needsā¦
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WanderingThoughts @europe.pub - 3day
And then they cheer at the truck protest, that blocks the roads and is being disruptive.
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mindbleach @sh.itjust.works - 3day
Mask on, mask off.
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Schmoo @slrpnk.net - 3day
It's a bad argument anyway, since street-blocking protest crowds almost always part to allow an ambulance through. If an ambulance is stopped, it's usually the cops blocking it.
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HiddenLayer555 - 3day
The only protest that intentionally blocked emergency services I can think of was the antivaxxer "freedom convoy" protests.
But when you ask a random lib to think of a protest blocking emergency services they'll blurt out something about climate/workers/BLM/Palestine/etc. Talk about the freedom convoy and they'll get holier than thou about how unfairly those widdle science denwying fwascists got treated by the police when any Leftist protest ever was treated 100x worse.
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davel - 3day
Iāve never seen ambulances or fire trucks intentionally blocked, and Iāve often seen protest organizers plan ahead for ambulance & fire access.
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SirQuack @feddit.nl - 3day
They should, the point is to cause a nuisance and force people to listen. The point is not to endanger random people.
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OBJECTION! - 2day
Related, in Star Wars lore, Tarkin got promoted (in the late Republic) after landing a ship on top of a crowd of protesters where were blocking the spaceport on Ghorman.
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 2day
I really do care about the children my country's bombing, I swear, but this morning I was 4 minutes late because protestors were blocking the road and I couldn't get my custard balls from tesco
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HenriVolney @sh.itjust.works - 3day
I swear I was in the same argument battling the same bullshit!
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BeardededSquidward @lemmy.blahaj.zone - 2day
Got into an argument with a neo-liberal who was happy the rail strikes were over without much going to the workers. I asked them if they felt any worker solidarity and they said no outright. There's people who just don't care about you at all as long as they get theirs.
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Alfredolin @sopuli.xyz - 2day
Very well put.
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OBJECTION! - 3day
The thing is that the rebels were (mostly) white, and removing the racial lens allowed Americans to see that a struggle like that of colonized people against their oppressors was obviously correct. But it also means they can't connect the rebels to real world conflicts, because the oppressed people are generally not white, and so it's understood through a racial lens.
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Evilsandwichman [none/use name] - 3day
Libs watch movies about oppressed or colonized minorities (like in Frozen 2 or total recall) and then side with the colonizers or oppressors in real life
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RindoGang - 3day
Self preservation I guess
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davel - 3day
Deeply unserious people.
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davel - 3day
The only halfway-decent treatment Iāve seen in Western media to date was the Cylon occupation of New Caprica in the 2004 Battlerstar Galactica TV series. It was basically the US occupation of Iraq, except the āusā were the occupied insurgents and the āthemā were the occupiers.
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AlexLost @lemmy.world - 2day
If you want to get real into it, the "humans" were also really worried because "they" could act, look, and sound like us?! The horror!!!
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yucandu @lemmy.world - 3day
How about Easterners? Every foreign rebellion is a fight against pure evil, whereas every domestic rebellion is backed by capitalism?
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Nemo's public admirer - 3day
*imperialism
Most rebellions against western attacks seem not to be for socialism or against capitalism.
But, the imperialism is due to capitalism and seems like a natural extension, so in a way, yes too
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yucandu @lemmy.world - 3day
I'm saying this isn't a "western" thing. Take the Hong Kong rebellion, for example. Unless you actually believe China is socialist...
hamid in memes
Yes, in fact the Empire did things wrong
https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcrazypeople.online%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F04fc2d58-bc6a-4771-91bd-9913a06ab38f.jpegThe worst is when they compare the DNC to the rebels, when Lucas himself said the rebels were basically the Viet Cong.
It's like that old meme about how Luke is a desert farmer who is given weapons and radicalized by a bearded man in a cave, then goes off to a militia training camp and eventually blows up a government installation.
When Luke joins the rebels against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: š„°
When a Palestinian kid joins Hamas against the Empire because his people were murdered.
Liberals: š¤¬
They never say: "If you don't like how the resistance operates, why don't you join it and try to change it from the inside?"
Noooo that only applies to electoral theater.
Yep, that's literally what it is.
I've literally never noticed before that Obi-Wan had a beard.
Libs think Trump vs. Harris was like Leia vs Darth Vader when in reality it was more like Darth Vader vs Palpatine.
Bingo.
ugh I genuinely, humanely, passionately hate those people. My and my wife have been receiving calls from her friends to announce that one is now a widow, now got her parents bombed with white phosphorus, that friends were lost, and so on.
Meanwhile, these awful people were making their fictional reference like if it was a fucking videogame.
So many of these people will play this little game where they pretend to be reluctant, like they care just as much as we do, but as much as it tears them up inside, they'll make the "rational" choice for the "lesser genocide."
Then, as soon as the leftists were out of the room, they dropped the facade and started talking about how great and wonderful Harris is and how they couldn't think of a single reason to dislike her. This wasn't the only post like that that got 1000+ upvotes, despite Lemmy being full of "reluctant" Harris voters.
A part of me wishes they'd just tell us straight up that they don't give a shit.
this seemed too fantastical so i had to look it up and even gemini says so. lol
Yep, he said it on camera. Even said he was jealous of the soviet filmmakers for not being beholden to the profit motive.
George Lucas be like
He def had more liberal tendencies, but at least could recognize material reality.
Oh yeah for sure, I was just being silly.
The interviewer was trying put words in his mouth but then George corrected him. Mujahideen and Al qaeda were both US funded terror groups. Then he tried to shift the blame of the crimes of the American empire solely on to the British Empire and Lucas again corrected him. š Astroturfer ass interviewer!
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/HDJyAapsLJw
yet another example of truth in plain sight but most people just don't know...
i'd sooner believe a random commenter than ai hallucinations, why on earth would that crap increase your confidence?
Especially when the English-language corpora used to train LLMs are virtually exclusively anti-communist.
Anything to cope, and bury rebellion assent
When progress and socialism is on the rise, libs will side with the fascists to stop its rise. Even so called moderates are to impede with progress.
Liberalism and fascism are rooted in the same base characteristics, after all.
Indeed. The only real difference is the smile on the face of the liberal as they step on your head as you're drowning.
My favourite one (it happens a lot in the UK and I assume in other places too) is when people say things like "I support the cause but the protest is really disruptive."
Like no shit, that's the entire point of a protest. They also sometimes complain about strikes being inconvenient for them. Oh, is this strike illustrating to you why this service is essential and it would be bad if it went away?
One time when I used to be on reddit I had an argument with someone who was against a climate protest because it could have blocked an ambulance and gotten someone killed. But this was after the protest had already happened and that had not occurred. So you don't support it because of a hypothetical disaster that you just made up, that already didn't happen? People, man
The classic British response to protests is "Blocking the roads hurts the economy. It's terrorism."
*"I'm terrorized. Imagine if we have to suffer through protests everytime we do genocide? It's a sleepery slope" *
This annoys me to no endā¦
Liberals pissing and moaning about being 2 minute late to brunch because some people with convictions are peacefully standing in the road.
Meanwhile they canāt even fathom the type of revolution that western society actually needsā¦
And then they cheer at the truck protest, that blocks the roads and is being disruptive.
Mask on, mask off.
It's a bad argument anyway, since street-blocking protest crowds almost always part to allow an ambulance through. If an ambulance is stopped, it's usually the cops blocking it.
The only protest that intentionally blocked emergency services I can think of was the antivaxxer "freedom convoy" protests.
But when you ask a random lib to think of a protest blocking emergency services they'll blurt out something about climate/workers/BLM/Palestine/etc. Talk about the freedom convoy and they'll get holier than thou about how unfairly those widdle science denwying fwascists got treated by the police when any Leftist protest ever was treated 100x worse.
Iāve never seen ambulances or fire trucks intentionally blocked, and Iāve often seen protest organizers plan ahead for ambulance & fire access.
They should, the point is to cause a nuisance and force people to listen. The point is not to endanger random people.
Related, in Star Wars lore, Tarkin got promoted (in the late Republic) after landing a ship on top of a crowd of protesters where were blocking the spaceport on Ghorman.
I really do care about the children my country's bombing, I swear, but this morning I was 4 minutes late because protestors were blocking the road and I couldn't get my custard balls from tesco
I swear I was in the same argument battling the same bullshit!
Got into an argument with a neo-liberal who was happy the rail strikes were over without much going to the workers. I asked them if they felt any worker solidarity and they said no outright. There's people who just don't care about you at all as long as they get theirs.
Very well put.
The thing is that the rebels were (mostly) white, and removing the racial lens allowed Americans to see that a struggle like that of colonized people against their oppressors was obviously correct. But it also means they can't connect the rebels to real world conflicts, because the oppressed people are generally not white, and so it's understood through a racial lens.
Libs watch movies about oppressed or colonized minorities (like in Frozen 2 or total recall) and then side with the colonizers or oppressors in real life
Self preservation I guess
Deeply unserious people.
The only halfway-decent treatment Iāve seen in Western media to date was the Cylon occupation of New Caprica in the 2004 Battlerstar Galactica TV series. It was basically the US occupation of Iraq, except the āusā were the occupied insurgents and the āthemā were the occupiers.
If you want to get real into it, the "humans" were also really worried because "they" could act, look, and sound like us?! The horror!!!
How about Easterners? Every foreign rebellion is a fight against pure evil, whereas every domestic rebellion is backed by capitalism?
*imperialism
Most rebellions against western attacks seem not to be for socialism or against capitalism.
But, the imperialism is due to capitalism and seems like a natural extension, so in a way, yes too
I'm saying this isn't a "western" thing. Take the Hong Kong rebellion, for example. Unless you actually believe China is socialist...
You fell for it again, Iām afraid. Previously:
This happens time and again: The blueprint of regime change operations - How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
oh look another opinion over from lobotomy.world