offline magic earth requires now a 15€ subscription
I liked using it but 15€/year for navigation is too much for me. I'm going to stick to osmand now. At least osmand is open source. It has roughly the same features. It's just not that beautiful. I paid for osmand btw. What's your alternative?
Edit: And I like paying for osmand because it is open source.
curious_dolphin @slrpnk.net - 1w
In case anyone else out there is unaware, the "paid" tier for Osmand is unlockable for free to OSM contributors, meaning if you make a habit of contributing edits to OSM, then all you'd have to do is link to your OSM account within Osmand settings. Not to dissuade anyone from contributing financially, just sayin' b/c I think that is a nice little perk for editors from the Osmand team.
I personally prefer CoMaps (forked from Organic Maps), the UI is a little more intuitive to me than Osmand.
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illusionist @lemmy.zip - 1w
Thanks for highlighting it.i also use the fdroid version. It didn't stop me from buying and donating and contributing heavily. It's really handy to add small changes or a note without investing a lot of time like with SC
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pineapple - 1w
Its also free if you get it on fdroid.
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Captain Beyond - 1w
"It's not foss but something something privacy..." Proprietary software, not even once.
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termaxima @slrpnk.net - 1w
CoMaps
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Az_1 - 1w
Main issue with osmand and comaps is that neither have integrated live public transport data even though the api for that in most cities is free. I feel this could be a really good feature but it hasn't been touched by any open source map project yet for some reason
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Basilisa - 1w
As someone who lives in a major european city who never has and never will drive, I cannot comprehend this. Guess I'll stick to the Transit app until the FOSS map devs get their head out of their car centric asses and build something that works for everyone.
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HereIAm @lemmy.world - 1day
I mean it's open source, so you can help out. And there's no standard for publishing public transport time tables, so it is an incredibly hard task to stay on top of updates from even a single country's bus and train companies.
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Basilisa - 1day
Really love how quickly this community places the burden on the user as soon as they point out issues or lack of features in a FOSS app. I already said I don't use it nor am I planning to in the foreseeable future. I really wish I had the time and the tech know-how to tinker with coding programming and whatnot.. But I'm just a simple person trying to get from point A to point B efficiently.
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HereIAm @lemmy.world - 1day
Pretty much the entire OSM sphere is developed and populated by volunteers. And they you come along and say they should take their heads out of their ass. Yes, the burden is on the users, because the developers are users themselves. No, not everyone has programming skills, but even nontechnical people can still contribute to the dataset with bus station locations and bus routes.
It's completely okay to not use a piece of software, and if you have some feedback to give that might sway you, great! But don't insult the developers because they have limited time and resources.
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Basilisa - 1day
Ok so I'm not allowed to criticize their software unless I'm actively collaborating /using their product? Is that what you're fucking saying? Lmao. Ok. Lol I see the devs are not the only ones who need to pull their heads out their asses here.
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HereIAm @lemmy.world - 15hr
Are you're doing it again. Stop the insulting, and ask for a feature like a normal person and someone is a lot more likely to be encouraged to work on it.
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barcaxavi @lemmy.world - 1w
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I think I used an apk from way before and now after updating it I see their new beautiful UI. Pretty nice.
I'm also all for OSS, but in this case, for me, there's no OSS alternative for navigation. Both CoMaps and OsmAnd can be used for it, but not tailored to do it.
As a frequent and satisfied user, I'm happy to contribute to their development. 15 EUR annually doesn't seem far fetched, but you can actually get the Premium package on their site for 6 EUR (link to the pricing page). That's like 3-4 can of beers kind of money.
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illusionist @lemmy.zip - 1w
Thanks!
6€ per year would be reasonable for me. I'm just a casual user. I may need it only once every other month.
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barcaxavi @lemmy.world - 1w
That's nice to read, happy you found a solution fitting for you.
Also happy to read you'd like to contribute, sometimes I get mixed feedback when it's about giving back somehow to these devs.
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illusionist @lemmy.zip - 1w
I'll buy it. I have used it oftentimes in the past. I see it as a support for what I already got instead of what I am about to get. I'll see how it goes in a year.
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wiccan2 @lemmy.world - 1w
I signed up to the subscription but have now cancelled, a lot of the features I used are just broken now, I would have happily paid for the old app, but their update is not worth anything.
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barcaxavi @lemmy.world - 1w
Not used it yet with the subscription, so I would be curious to hear what features are not working.
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Danitos @reddthat.com - 1w
They even seem to have regional pricing (or at least 1 year costs €3.5 in Colombia). Pretty nice deal IMO
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barcaxavi @lemmy.world - 1w
Nice.
So is €3.5 around 3-4 cans of beer in Colombia?
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Danitos @reddthat.com - 1w
€3.5 is more like 4-6
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Karkitoo - 1w
I like Organic Maps. UI is clear and simple-ish to use.
However, it lacks quite a lot compared to the (cluttered UI of) OSMand.
Edit: great mentality there. You could at least tell me the pros of your favorite solution and the cons of organic map before Downvoting me.
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Kami - 1w
Organic maps is shit.
Use CoMaps instead.
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theorangeninja @sopuli.xyz - 1w
+1 for CoMaps
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DSN9 - 1w
Why? Is nefarious activity really occuring? It looks like from the linked article, small dev teams are more efficient. There is a scalability issue, governance, inclusion versus efficiency. I can understand in theory why they forked (and I'm switching to comaps), but has organic maps actually done anything bad? Can someone clarify? Is this nonsense what happened with maps.me?
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esaru @beehaw.org - 4day
OrganicMaps refused to rule out selling to venture capitalists in the future. They expect volunteers to contribute while keeping the option of capitalizing on free work later.
That's why it has been forked to what is called CoMaps. So CoMaps is the true, reliable FOSS project now.
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DSN9 - 3day
Can you point to this reference or source? Where was this stipulated? How?
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esaru @beehaw.org - 3day
Sure, here are a number of sources that explain what happened and why:
Indeed, not a good project governance and not an project I should recommend.
Uninstalled Organic Maps, and I will try CoMaps (or default back to OSMand)
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monovergent - 1w
Anyone else wanting to move to CoMaps but procrastinating because they'd have to go about downloading the maps again?
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esaru @beehaw.org - 4day
I did move last week and it's such a difference. A clean refreshing interface without all the clutter,
also much snappier, maps don't take time to refresh.
You can download maps while having WiFi connection and, for a start, focus on the maps of the country you are staying in at the moment.
CoMaps has optional 3D view of buildings and surprised me with how few features it has, yet exactly the features one needs. That way the interface is clean while I'm not missing anything.
It even has quick access to Wikipedia articles built in so you get directly information of points you click on.
Object information is down to what you need, like floor level, pbone number, opening times.
Import/Export for all location data.
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checkfit @lemmy.world - 1w
I switched to organic maps too.
Also, until comaps have bike layer I am not switching
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illusionist @lemmy.zip - 1w
Don't worry. Sounds like she's replying to the wrong comment
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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] - 1w
Everyone, make sure to reply to this person instead of just downvoting their comments.
It’s your responsibility to manage their feelings, not their responsibility to use an instance without downvotes, or even turn off downvotes in their own control panel.
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Hubi @feddit.org - 1w
It seems that version 2025122009 still works for the time being.
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swelter_spark @reddthat.com - 1w
Sad to hear. I've used it for years. There's nothing that really replaces it, IMO. But, I haven't been liking the direction it was going in for some time now, so I'm not that surprised.
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Ardens - 1w
Open Street Map all the way here. Yeah, I like something that looks nice too - but more than that, I like something that works.
illusionist in privacy
offline magic earth requires now a 15€ subscription
I liked using it but 15€/year for navigation is too much for me. I'm going to stick to osmand now. At least osmand is open source. It has roughly the same features. It's just not that beautiful. I paid for osmand btw. What's your alternative?
Edit: And I like paying for osmand because it is open source.
In case anyone else out there is unaware, the "paid" tier for Osmand is unlockable for free to OSM contributors, meaning if you make a habit of contributing edits to OSM, then all you'd have to do is link to your OSM account within Osmand settings. Not to dissuade anyone from contributing financially, just sayin' b/c I think that is a nice little perk for editors from the Osmand team.
I personally prefer CoMaps (forked from Organic Maps), the UI is a little more intuitive to me than Osmand.
Thanks for highlighting it.i also use the fdroid version. It didn't stop me from buying and donating and contributing heavily. It's really handy to add small changes or a note without investing a lot of time like with SC
Its also free if you get it on fdroid.
"It's not foss but something something privacy..." Proprietary software, not even once.
CoMaps
Main issue with osmand and comaps is that neither have integrated live public transport data even though the api for that in most cities is free. I feel this could be a really good feature but it hasn't been touched by any open source map project yet for some reason
As someone who lives in a major european city who never has and never will drive, I cannot comprehend this. Guess I'll stick to the Transit app until the FOSS map devs get their head out of their car centric asses and build something that works for everyone.
I mean it's open source, so you can help out. And there's no standard for publishing public transport time tables, so it is an incredibly hard task to stay on top of updates from even a single country's bus and train companies.
Really love how quickly this community places the burden on the user as soon as they point out issues or lack of features in a FOSS app. I already said I don't use it nor am I planning to in the foreseeable future. I really wish I had the time and the tech know-how to tinker with coding programming and whatnot.. But I'm just a simple person trying to get from point A to point B efficiently.
Pretty much the entire OSM sphere is developed and populated by volunteers. And they you come along and say they should take their heads out of their ass. Yes, the burden is on the users, because the developers are users themselves. No, not everyone has programming skills, but even nontechnical people can still contribute to the dataset with bus station locations and bus routes.
It's completely okay to not use a piece of software, and if you have some feedback to give that might sway you, great! But don't insult the developers because they have limited time and resources.
Ok so I'm not allowed to criticize their software unless I'm actively collaborating /using their product? Is that what you're fucking saying? Lmao. Ok. Lol I see the devs are not the only ones who need to pull their heads out their asses here.
Are you're doing it again. Stop the insulting, and ask for a feature like a normal person and someone is a lot more likely to be encouraged to work on it.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I think I used an apk from way before and now after updating it I see their new beautiful UI. Pretty nice.
I'm also all for OSS, but in this case, for me, there's no OSS alternative for navigation. Both CoMaps and OsmAnd can be used for it, but not tailored to do it.
As a frequent and satisfied user, I'm happy to contribute to their development. 15 EUR annually doesn't seem far fetched, but you can actually get the Premium package on their site for 6 EUR (link to the pricing page). That's like 3-4 can of beers kind of money.
Thanks!
6€ per year would be reasonable for me. I'm just a casual user. I may need it only once every other month.
That's nice to read, happy you found a solution fitting for you. Also happy to read you'd like to contribute, sometimes I get mixed feedback when it's about giving back somehow to these devs.
I'll buy it. I have used it oftentimes in the past. I see it as a support for what I already got instead of what I am about to get. I'll see how it goes in a year.
I signed up to the subscription but have now cancelled, a lot of the features I used are just broken now, I would have happily paid for the old app, but their update is not worth anything.
Not used it yet with the subscription, so I would be curious to hear what features are not working.
They even seem to have regional pricing (or at least 1 year costs €3.5 in Colombia). Pretty nice deal IMO
Nice. So is €3.5 around 3-4 cans of beer in Colombia?
€3.5 is more like 4-6
I like Organic Maps. UI is clear and simple-ish to use.
However, it lacks quite a lot compared to the (cluttered UI of) OSMand.
Edit: great mentality there. You could at least tell me the pros of your favorite solution and the cons of organic map before Downvoting me.
Organic maps is shit.
Use CoMaps instead.
+1 for CoMaps
Why? Is nefarious activity really occuring? It looks like from the linked article, small dev teams are more efficient. There is a scalability issue, governance, inclusion versus efficiency. I can understand in theory why they forked (and I'm switching to comaps), but has organic maps actually done anything bad? Can someone clarify? Is this nonsense what happened with maps.me?
OrganicMaps refused to rule out selling to venture capitalists in the future. They expect volunteers to contribute while keeping the option of capitalizing on free work later.
That's why it has been forked to what is called CoMaps. So CoMaps is the true, reliable FOSS project now.
Can you point to this reference or source? Where was this stipulated? How?
Sure, here are a number of sources that explain what happened and why:
ITSFOSS: Organic Maps Forked Over Governance Concerns
Wikibooks: MAPS.ME to Organic Maps/OM Crisis
Openletter: Open Letter to Organic Maps Shareholders
I would guess this is why it's referred to as shit: https://menafn.com/1109612598/Organic-Maps-Fork-Spurs-Governance-Debate
Ah, thank you for this article !
Indeed, not a good project governance and not an project I should recommend.
Uninstalled Organic Maps, and I will try CoMaps (or default back to OSMand)
Anyone else wanting to move to CoMaps but procrastinating because they'd have to go about downloading the maps again?
I did move last week and it's such a difference. A clean refreshing interface without all the clutter, also much snappier, maps don't take time to refresh.
You can download maps while having WiFi connection and, for a start, focus on the maps of the country you are staying in at the moment.
CoMaps has optional 3D view of buildings and surprised me with how few features it has, yet exactly the features one needs. That way the interface is clean while I'm not missing anything.
It even has quick access to Wikipedia articles built in so you get directly information of points you click on.
Object information is down to what you need, like floor level, pbone number, opening times.
Import/Export for all location data.
I switched to organic maps too.
Also, until comaps have bike layer I am not switching
Don't worry. Sounds like she's replying to the wrong comment
Everyone, make sure to reply to this person instead of just downvoting their comments.
It’s your responsibility to manage their feelings, not their responsibility to use an instance without downvotes, or even turn off downvotes in their own control panel.
It seems that version 2025122009 still works for the time being.
Sad to hear. I've used it for years. There's nothing that really replaces it, IMO. But, I haven't been liking the direction it was going in for some time now, so I'm not that surprised.
Open Street Map all the way here. Yeah, I like something that looks nice too - but more than that, I like something that works.