These all sound good for the Chinese as a people, my question was about the government being trustworthy in what it tells people.
1st and 3rd links seem potentially good, the wage increase...you must know that's a terrible comparison.
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JandroDelSol @lemmy.world - 1mon
I mean, all government sponsored sources are going to be biased. No media should be trusted wholesale
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durduramayacaklar @lemmygrad.ml - 1mon
Soviet Union was making news about extermination camps during WW2 and Westerner media blocked those news because of COMMIE propaganda. US lifted the block only when they reached the German mainland. SU was reporting from Poland at that time.
So, your argument is invalidated. We need to look for governments who people put theirs trust on.
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Empathy [he/him] - 1mon
Is it just the US saying not to trust the Chinese government?
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Amnesigenic - 1mon
The US and our lackeys, yes
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Empathy [he/him] - 1mon
Who are those lackeys?
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balance8873 @lemmy.myserv.one - 1mon
But don't you define lackeys as being people who also say china isn't trustworthy? Ie it's a circular logic you seem to got there, based on past ml experiences.
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Amnesigenic - 1mon
It would only be circular if their agreement on China was the sole indication of their subservience to US interests, that is not the case
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Empathy [he/him] - 1mon
what are some of the other indicators?
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Amnesigenic - 1mon
US military bases
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Stormcrow @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1mon
He said he doesn't trust both the US and China, he never says someone told him anything. I'm thinking false dilemma?
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UltraGiGaGigantic - 1mon
Everybody Sucks Here. I experience it first hand on a daily basis.
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nixus - 1mon
Who told you not to trust anything China says?
My inherent distrust of authorities?
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Cowbee [he/they] - 1mon
Do you also distrust climate scientists? Doctors? I think you should hold healthy skepticism for claims, but to outright distrust anything China says just because they have a state is overkill.
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brucethemoose @lemmy.world - 1mon
Could it perhaps be, I don’t know, the entire rest of the world calling out China's own genocides?
And no, the US has no leg to stand on when it comes to stamping out ethnic groups, especially Muslims. So?
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optissima - 1mon
Crazy how the genocide number is now multiple with just as many sources as before
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Horse {they/them} - 1mon
entire rest of the world
China’s own genocides
citation needed
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bubblybubbles - 1mon
Yeah, another .world lib who screeches about the ChInESe GeNoCiDes. Its all empire fabricated to push the china bad line of propaganda
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balance8873 @lemmy.myserv.one - 1mon
And this post is a great example of how the democrats shifted further and further to the right wing.
I see dot-ml users are accidentally upvoting me because I shat on the democrats. While they do suck in this case the demonstration is actually that someone who is trying to coddle the dot-ml groupthink shifts further and further into that groupthink for zero meaningful gains. They still got heavily downvoted despite trying to reach out to the hive mind. This is what happens to democrats who try to coddle the analogous republican groupthink. They too shift further into the groupthink and are punished by everyone for it.
Please adjust your votes accordingly.
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davel - 1mon
NATO countries are not “the rest of the world.” Previously.
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Two_Hangmen @midwest.social - 1mon
Ask the Chinese government what happened 3 June 1989.
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BrainInABox - 1mon
You haven't
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deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
Tell us, what happened?
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roux [they/them, xe/xem] - 1mon
Was that the Kent State Massacre?
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Amnesigenic - 1mon
Get new material
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Mr Fish - 1mon
A stopped clock is right twice a day. America has a terrible and corrupt government, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about not trusting china's government.
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BrainInABox - 1mon
And how did you determine that?
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PolandIsAStateOfMind - 1mon
US told them
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Dessalines - 1mon
"Gonna need to see a source from a white country before I'll believe anything positive about China, the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba. If it ain't white, it ain't right."
bubblybubbles in memes
Liberals : REEEEEEEEE
Both countries have their issues, but certainly Xi Jinping is more trustworthy than Donald Trump.
that is a very high bar, as they say in the limbo biz.
only one of the governments is run by a bunch of pedophiles being blackmailed by mossad
Let's start with: governments are untrustworthy being made of people
So who told you china is trustworthy?
The Chinese people. Non-anecdotal evidence, from an anglo source:
These all sound good for the Chinese as a people, my question was about the government being trustworthy in what it tells people.
1st and 3rd links seem potentially good, the wage increase...you must know that's a terrible comparison.
I mean, all government sponsored sources are going to be biased. No media should be trusted wholesale
Soviet Union was making news about extermination camps during WW2 and Westerner media blocked those news because of COMMIE propaganda. US lifted the block only when they reached the German mainland. SU was reporting from Poland at that time.
So, your argument is invalidated. We need to look for governments who people put theirs trust on.
Is it just the US saying not to trust the Chinese government?
The US and our lackeys, yes
Who are those lackeys?
But don't you define lackeys as being people who also say china isn't trustworthy? Ie it's a circular logic you seem to got there, based on past ml experiences.
It would only be circular if their agreement on China was the sole indication of their subservience to US interests, that is not the case
what are some of the other indicators?
US military bases
He said he doesn't trust both the US and China, he never says someone told him anything. I'm thinking false dilemma?
Everybody Sucks Here. I experience it first hand on a daily basis.
My inherent distrust of authorities?
Do you also distrust climate scientists? Doctors? I think you should hold healthy skepticism for claims, but to outright distrust anything China says just because they have a state is overkill.
Could it perhaps be, I don’t know, the entire rest of the world calling out China's own genocides?
And no, the US has no leg to stand on when it comes to stamping out ethnic groups, especially Muslims. So?
Crazy how the genocide number is now multiple with just as many sources as before
citation needed
Yeah, another .world lib who screeches about the ChInESe GeNoCiDes. Its all empire fabricated to push the china bad line of propaganda
And this post is a great example of how the democrats shifted further and further to the right wing.
I see dot-ml users are accidentally upvoting me because I shat on the democrats. While they do suck in this case the demonstration is actually that someone who is trying to coddle the dot-ml groupthink shifts further and further into that groupthink for zero meaningful gains. They still got heavily downvoted despite trying to reach out to the hive mind. This is what happens to democrats who try to coddle the analogous republican groupthink. They too shift further into the groupthink and are punished by everyone for it.
Please adjust your votes accordingly.
NATO countries are not “the rest of the world.” Previously.
Ask the Chinese government what happened 3 June 1989.
You haven't
Tell us, what happened?
Was that the Kent State Massacre?
Get new material
A stopped clock is right twice a day. America has a terrible and corrupt government, but that doesn't mean they're wrong about not trusting china's government.
And how did you determine that?
US told them
"Gonna need to see a source from a white country before I'll believe anything positive about China, the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba. If it ain't white, it ain't right."