Warning: This article contains swearing (Quoted, from Bill Gates).
As a UNIX-aligned engineer, I've always looked down on anything Microsoft.
But a recent cross-platform project forced me to learn PowerShell — a technology which, just like blockchain, is amusing by how its core idea almost makes sense.
I want to explore the psychological impact that a piece of documentation had on me. A political piece on par with Machiavelli, "The Monad Manifesto."
floofloof @lemmy.ca - 1mon
Bill Gates walked into the meeting “riding high” because he acquired patents for malaria treatments. Reality beats satire every time.
Bill Gates will never be a good guy.
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Unforeseen @sh.itjust.works - 1mon
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sepi - 1mon
Which Bill Gates got your attention? Epstein Island Bill or Embrace/Extend/Extinguish Bill? Either way, not a good look.
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Tangentism - 1mon
You forgot the Bill "now the largest owner of arable land in the US" Gates
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eldavi - 1mon
aka hide your fortune from taxes in a charity bill
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ms.lane - 3w
Borg Bill
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gravitas_deficiency @sh.itjust.works - 1mon
Good post. Definitely worth the read. Essentially: “how to convince execs who think they know more than they do that something is not only a good idea, but also their good idea”
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Ephera - 1mon
The thing I never understood about PowerShell is that it's partially more verbose than C#, which is one of the most verbose programming languages in existence. It just feels like you might as well go for a full-fledged programming language at that point.
The appeal of Bash et al is that the scripting is almost the same as the interactive usage, which you already know. But because PowerShell is so verbose, I'm really not sure people do use it interactively.
I guess, that code snippet in the article makes somewhat of a difference, in that PowerShell offers better features for interop between processes. But man, that still feels like it could've been a library instead...
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underscores @lemmy.zip - 4w
PowerShell is fantastic in practice but whenever I think of writing shell scripts I think of bash first.
Bash is a lot more pleasant to work with overall, the biggest concern most people have is that it can be cryptic. IMO PowerShell scripts can be the exact same kind of voodoo.
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LwL @lemmy.world - 4w
Powershell is nice for scripting things close to the (windows) OS. But (granted I'm not exactly some PS wizard, I've just used it a few times for minor things at work) I agree it often feels unnecessarily verbose and cumbersome. For example the fact that you need to define a whole function to alias even just a single command with parameters. And just overall I find it very hard to read (though maybe that's on the guy that did the powershell stuff before me, I don't have great sample size here).
But I'll take what I can get.
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ragingHungryPanda - 1mon
that was a fun read and I appreciate the guy's sarcasm in all of it. I can only imagine what that meeting with Gates was like.
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calidris [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
PowerShell isn't that bad. Yeah I said it.
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AdamBomb @lemmy.sdf.org - 1mon
It’s downright good. Don’t even need to drop another programming language for more complex tasks.
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majster @lemmy.zip - 1mon
one liners can get pretty verbose, but it scripts nicely
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calidris [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
Agreed. I almost exclusively run scripts.
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thermal_shock - 1mon
Warning: This article contains swearing (Quoted, from Bill Gates).
If you're in IT and bad words offend you, fuck off. It's a requirement.
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Cevilia (she/they/…) - 1mon
This attitude is precisely why I didn't end up in IT. :)
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culpritus [any] - 1mon
If we can get rid of MS and keep PS as a community project, that'd be nice.
sebastiancarlos in programmerhumor
The PowerShell Manifesto Radicalized Me
https://medium.com/@sebastiancarlos/the-powershell-manifesto-radicalized-me-0959d0d86b9dWarning: This article contains swearing (Quoted, from Bill Gates).
As a UNIX-aligned engineer, I've always looked down on anything Microsoft.
But a recent cross-platform project forced me to learn PowerShell — a technology which, just like blockchain, is amusing by how its core idea almost makes sense.
I want to explore the psychological impact that a piece of documentation had on me. A political piece on par with Machiavelli, "The Monad Manifesto."
Bill Gates will never be a good guy.
Which Bill Gates got your attention? Epstein Island Bill or Embrace/Extend/Extinguish Bill? Either way, not a good look.
You forgot the Bill "now the largest owner of arable land in the US" Gates
aka hide your fortune from taxes in a charity bill
Borg Bill
Good post. Definitely worth the read. Essentially: “how to convince execs who think they know more than they do that something is not only a good idea, but also their good idea”
The thing I never understood about PowerShell is that it's partially more verbose than C#, which is one of the most verbose programming languages in existence. It just feels like you might as well go for a full-fledged programming language at that point.
The appeal of Bash et al is that the scripting is almost the same as the interactive usage, which you already know. But because PowerShell is so verbose, I'm really not sure people do use it interactively.
I guess, that code snippet in the article makes somewhat of a difference, in that PowerShell offers better features for interop between processes. But man, that still feels like it could've been a library instead...
PowerShell is fantastic in practice but whenever I think of writing shell scripts I think of bash first.
Bash is a lot more pleasant to work with overall, the biggest concern most people have is that it can be cryptic. IMO PowerShell scripts can be the exact same kind of voodoo.
Powershell is nice for scripting things close to the (windows) OS. But (granted I'm not exactly some PS wizard, I've just used it a few times for minor things at work) I agree it often feels unnecessarily verbose and cumbersome. For example the fact that you need to define a whole function to alias even just a single command with parameters. And just overall I find it very hard to read (though maybe that's on the guy that did the powershell stuff before me, I don't have great sample size here).
But I'll take what I can get.
that was a fun read and I appreciate the guy's sarcasm in all of it. I can only imagine what that meeting with Gates was like.
PowerShell isn't that bad. Yeah I said it.
It’s downright good. Don’t even need to drop another programming language for more complex tasks.
one liners can get pretty verbose, but it scripts nicely
Agreed. I almost exclusively run scripts.
If you're in IT and bad words offend you, fuck off. It's a requirement.
This attitude is precisely why I didn't end up in IT. :)
If we can get rid of MS and keep PS as a community project, that'd be nice.