Toki Pona speakers, how would you translate my boyfriend and my name?
I call him Steve online and I go by Larry.
Dessalines - 1mon
Sewe, lawi
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Phlimy - 1mon
I'd probably say "siwe" from the pronunciation
or sitiwe, or tiwe...
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Dessalines - 1mon
Agree, siwe is probably closer.
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kubofhromoslav @lemmy.world - 1mon
jan Siwe, jan Lawi.
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venusaur @lemmy.world - 1mon
You speak toki pona or you looked it up?
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Dessalines - 1mon
mi sona e toki pona, taso tenpo mute la mi toki ala e ni.
i know it, but haven't spoken it for a long time.
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venusaur @lemmy.world - 1mon
That’s crazy. I was thinking with such a relatively small community nobody would actually speak it, but I guess of all communities Lemmy would have somebody who does.
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mobiuscoffee - 1mon
a a a ni li pilin pona mute tawa mi
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kubofhromoslav @lemmy.world - 1mon
ali li pali e sama 🤣
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Sunsofold @lemmings.world - 1mon
I've had this discussion before. Names are not translated. Adam is a Hebrew name meaning 'man' but if your Hebrew friend comes to an english-speaking country, you don't say this is my friend Man. If your name is Bob and you go to Japan, they might call you バブ but that would still be calling you Bob, just with an accent. If you then started saying you were Bahboo as an imitation of their accent, you're not translating to be better understood. You're just mocking them. You don't have a Toki Pona accent, so you are imagining a foreigner with an accent and then mocking them, which is less offensive than mocking a real person, but still a weird thing to do.
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Owl - 1mon
Tomi pona has this tule stating that names should be written and pronounced the toki pona way. Like, giving a toki pona accent to everyone so that no confusion arises
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Sunsofold @lemmings.world - 1mon
No confusion will arise from calling people by their expected names. Confusion could easily arise from calling people by an interpretation of their expected name. Same goes for offense. Regardless of the intent of the original rule, we're all better off without it.
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Toki Pona speakers, how would you translate my boyfriend and my name?
I call him Steve online and I go by Larry.
Sewe, lawi
I'd probably say "siwe" from the pronunciation
or sitiwe, or tiwe...
Agree, siwe is probably closer.
jan Siwe, jan Lawi.
You speak toki pona or you looked it up?
mi sona e toki pona, taso tenpo mute la mi toki ala e ni.
i know it, but haven't spoken it for a long time.
That’s crazy. I was thinking with such a relatively small community nobody would actually speak it, but I guess of all communities Lemmy would have somebody who does.
a a a ni li pilin pona mute tawa mi
ali li pali e sama 🤣
I've had this discussion before. Names are not translated. Adam is a Hebrew name meaning 'man' but if your Hebrew friend comes to an english-speaking country, you don't say this is my friend Man. If your name is Bob and you go to Japan, they might call you バブ but that would still be calling you Bob, just with an accent. If you then started saying you were Bahboo as an imitation of their accent, you're not translating to be better understood. You're just mocking them. You don't have a Toki Pona accent, so you are imagining a foreigner with an accent and then mocking them, which is less offensive than mocking a real person, but still a weird thing to do.
Tomi pona has this tule stating that names should be written and pronounced the toki pona way. Like, giving a toki pona accent to everyone so that no confusion arises
No confusion will arise from calling people by their expected names. Confusion could easily arise from calling people by an interpretation of their expected name. Same goes for offense. Regardless of the intent of the original rule, we're all better off without it.