This is actually a common old fashioned style of strike!
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Lumidaub @feddit.org - 2mon
Idk, wouldn't that count as stealing? Seems like a step too far. (Happy to be educated to the contrary)
Edit: not that I object to stealing from megacorps as such but you'd be liable which would hurt the strike, no?
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HowDawg @lemmy.blahaj.zone - 2mon
This type of protest has been done in the past successfully. Imo it's a great way to protest as it can help get the customers on their side (and spread news) , and it also increases the costs compared to just having the store closed for a day.
I guess it could depend highly on the contract of the employee, as if "taking payment" is not actually stipulated then they wouldn't be breaking their contract - could be possible for someone like a barista who only makes coffee. Admittedly I have no insight into their position types nor contract
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Lumidaub @feddit.org - 2mon
I can see how it would be effective in getting the public on your side, of course, and I don't object in principle. I'm merely thinking of how the other side could exploit this. If it's worked in the past, cool.
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primrosepathspeedrun - 2mon
Common old fashioned style of strike.
Why do you not consider wage theft unpredictable schedules and subpar wages on record profits to be theft, but giving away coffee prepared by your own labor is?
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Lumidaub @feddit.org - 2mon
Dude.
I said no such thing.
What I'm saying is that I was taught to err on the side of the law in labour disputes because the corp can and will use any misstep to discredit your cause.
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primrosepathspeedrun - 2mon
The corp owns the law is the law.
Your attitude, especially in times like these, are why american labor gets treated like shit, why our unions are worth nothing.
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Lumidaub @feddit.org - 2mon
Sure. Fyi, I live in Germany, we have a functioning union system and workers councils. Not perfect but I wouldn't trade it for whatever you're dealing with over there.
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primrosepathspeedrun - 2mon
Oh. Sorry for assuming you were a delusional boot licker; I still think you should be more willing to set shit on fire, but Americans tend to act like they have what you do when clearly not, and it's just so disconnected from reality.
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eldavi - 2mon
that's how some of the bus driver unions protest in japan; the buses still run, but no one is collecting fare.
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Moonrise2473 - 2mon
This is public transport strikes should be.
In my country we get at least 1 public transport strikes per month (this month we're already at 2) and it's a win-win-win situation for the main company. Don't need to pay the salary to the workers, don't need to pay for energy/gas and no refunds for all the idiots who purchased a bus/tram/train pass. And anyway the people now expects to get a strike just before the weekend, so they just don't bother, take private transit that day.
The transport companies don't care at all if the workers are on strike. It doesn't hurt their wallet at all! Strike because you want a salary increase? Go ahead, we save money if you do! Instead if strike means free public transport for everyone, the companies would immediately find ways to get an agreement
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eldavi - 2mon
i suspect that things like the taft-hartley act proves that they'll pull the gov'ts strings before ever coming to the bargaining table.
cyu in unions
A fun way for Starbucks workers to win recognition: keep doors open, but give away company coffee, pastries for FREE
https://newsie.social/@BrunoMcGee/115325145106058060This is actually a common old fashioned style of strike!
Idk, wouldn't that count as stealing? Seems like a step too far. (Happy to be educated to the contrary)
Edit: not that I object to stealing from megacorps as such but you'd be liable which would hurt the strike, no?
This type of protest has been done in the past successfully. Imo it's a great way to protest as it can help get the customers on their side (and spread news) , and it also increases the costs compared to just having the store closed for a day.
I guess it could depend highly on the contract of the employee, as if "taking payment" is not actually stipulated then they wouldn't be breaking their contract - could be possible for someone like a barista who only makes coffee. Admittedly I have no insight into their position types nor contract
I can see how it would be effective in getting the public on your side, of course, and I don't object in principle. I'm merely thinking of how the other side could exploit this. If it's worked in the past, cool.
Common old fashioned style of strike.
Why do you not consider wage theft unpredictable schedules and subpar wages on record profits to be theft, but giving away coffee prepared by your own labor is?
Dude.
I said no such thing.
What I'm saying is that I was taught to err on the side of the law in labour disputes because the corp can and will use any misstep to discredit your cause.
The corp owns the law is the law.
Your attitude, especially in times like these, are why american labor gets treated like shit, why our unions are worth nothing.
Sure. Fyi, I live in Germany, we have a functioning union system and workers councils. Not perfect but I wouldn't trade it for whatever you're dealing with over there.
Oh. Sorry for assuming you were a delusional boot licker; I still think you should be more willing to set shit on fire, but Americans tend to act like they have what you do when clearly not, and it's just so disconnected from reality.
that's how some of the bus driver unions protest in japan; the buses still run, but no one is collecting fare.
This is public transport strikes should be.
In my country we get at least 1 public transport strikes per month (this month we're already at 2) and it's a win-win-win situation for the main company. Don't need to pay the salary to the workers, don't need to pay for energy/gas and no refunds for all the idiots who purchased a bus/tram/train pass. And anyway the people now expects to get a strike just before the weekend, so they just don't bother, take private transit that day.
The transport companies don't care at all if the workers are on strike. It doesn't hurt their wallet at all! Strike because you want a salary increase? Go ahead, we save money if you do! Instead if strike means free public transport for everyone, the companies would immediately find ways to get an agreement
i suspect that things like the taft-hartley act proves that they'll pull the gov'ts strings before ever coming to the bargaining table.