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squirrel - 2.0yr
TBH I read it more as a somewhat awkward attempt to acknowledge that some trans people may initially dismiss their transness as a fetish, before realizing there is more to.
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Transtronaut - 2.0yr
Yeah, the way I understand it, you're not actually a chaser unless you go around chasing people, regardless of what you're into. And just dating trans people wouldn't do it either, you'd have to be objectifying/using them. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Blahaj_Blast - 2.0yr
That's how I read it
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Blyfh - 2.0yr
Bro no way I was actually shocked to see your profile picture. That exact image poured some memories and feelings from a childhood time into me the moment I saw it. I almost forgot I knew this image, but I instantly knew it must this image I had seen many years ago. Damn.
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PopOfAfrica @lemmy.world - 2.0yr
Nothing wrong with being into a certain type. Unless you're weird about it of course.
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Firipu @startrek.website - 2.0yr
OK to be a chaser? Not OK to not want to have sex with trans women? I'm always confused about this point.
I fully support trans people, everyone has a right to be happy. My own child is gender fluid and gets my 200% full support, but for the life of me I can't understand what's wrong with refusing the date trans people.
(please don't just downvote me, teach me...)
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Trincapinones @lemmy.world - 2.0yr
I think there's nothing wrong with that, it's just what you are into, except if you are weird about it, in both cases. What i do is know that person and don't think about their genitals
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FakeGreekGirl - 2.0yr
I think it's more about transformation fetishists. Which, honestly, is how I got introduced into this world.
I pretty much was that guy for like 20 years before I ventured further down this chart. Except less enthusiastic about it.
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BumbleTumbleGirl - 2.0yr
Well, I have seen this before on Reddit some time ago but it was on a transformation porn subreddit so if it was originally made for something like that it makes more sense
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pixeltree - 2.0yr
Could be for the sissy fetish as well
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clemdemort @lemmy.world - 1.9yr
I don't think the author meant chasers, a lot of trans people interpret (or develop through) their transness a "being the other gender" fetish.
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First Majestic Comet - 2.0yr
I feel like the way they included stop portions on the masculine side they should've also included a stop portion on the feminine side because femboys are valid too, and aren't just "trans girls in-denial" like is often said about us.
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Jojo - 2.0yr
I think you could stop at any point along the chart, although some of them seem pretty far from comfortable to me.
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First Majestic Comet - 2.0yr
That is true, I mean that this one
Is also a natural stopping point for femboys in the same way that this one
is for Gender Conforming Cis people.
So while technecally any point could be a stopping point, despite being very uncomfortable (especially this one) what I meant is that this is a definitive end point for people who consider themselves femboys, as in males who identify as male but choose to dress and present in a feminine way.
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Jojo - 2.0yr
Yeah, I get you. I think the two panels directly above those are also likely stopping points, just a cis dude who's attracted to trans bodies (everyone can have a fetish but...) or a cis dude who thinks gender exploration is fascinating (much healthier imo)
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gmtom @lemmy.world - 2.0yr
Would be so much better if they didn't use the abbreviate of "TG" and just wrote it out. Like I'm trans and don't 100% know what they meant. Like I assume it's trans gender? But then that doesn't quite fit dramatically with the first sentence.
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DriftinGrifter - 2.0yr
I need a third arrow that goes from the starting position which is literally just a path into space cuz idk what's going on and I'm attracted to everyone and I don't feel gender in any way and what the fuck is even life or sth idk
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growsomethinggood () - 2.0yr
Maybe agender would resonate with you?
Also, one of my genderfluid friends describes their sexuality as bi but as "gay in both directions" which is just delightful to me.
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fl42v @lemmy.ml - 2.0yr
Just casually slipping through the cracks here: I kinda don't care who I am nor do I have a fetish (at least afaik), but I find some stuff you ppl do generally interesting (e.g. voice lessons).
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Franzia - 2.0yr
The voice changing stuff is like wildly interesting, I think there could be a future where more people consider it as part of their presentation.
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PedroMaldonado @lemmy.world - 2.0yr
Damn ADORABLE
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Blyfh - 2.0yr
I think I am the one beneath the top left...? Like, I wouldn't mind being a girl but no way would I change my body. I like this. It would feel very weird and wrong to be using she/her. But if an imaginary scenario where you could just flip a lever to be in a different body without anyone making a fuss about it existed – I'd flip that lever.
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Animal Planet - 2.0yr
This is wonderful, though I feel like "I don't feel super comfortable in my body" as a pre-cursor to nonbinary identity is a narrow view.
I didn't experience much gender dysphoria before transitioning, but I experience a hell of a lot of gender euphoria when exploring my nb side.
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A helpful flowchart [AMAB] [by Grumpy-TG]
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TBH I read it more as a somewhat awkward attempt to acknowledge that some trans people may initially dismiss their transness as a fetish, before realizing there is more to.
Yeah, the way I understand it, you're not actually a chaser unless you go around chasing people, regardless of what you're into. And just dating trans people wouldn't do it either, you'd have to be objectifying/using them. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That's how I read it
Bro no way I was actually shocked to see your profile picture. That exact image poured some memories and feelings from a childhood time into me the moment I saw it. I almost forgot I knew this image, but I instantly knew it must this image I had seen many years ago. Damn.
Nothing wrong with being into a certain type. Unless you're weird about it of course.
OK to be a chaser? Not OK to not want to have sex with trans women? I'm always confused about this point.
I fully support trans people, everyone has a right to be happy. My own child is gender fluid and gets my 200% full support, but for the life of me I can't understand what's wrong with refusing the date trans people.
(please don't just downvote me, teach me...)
I think there's nothing wrong with that, it's just what you are into, except if you are weird about it, in both cases. What i do is know that person and don't think about their genitals
I think it's more about transformation fetishists. Which, honestly, is how I got introduced into this world.
I pretty much was that guy for like 20 years before I ventured further down this chart. Except less enthusiastic about it.
Well, I have seen this before on Reddit some time ago but it was on a transformation porn subreddit so if it was originally made for something like that it makes more sense
Could be for the sissy fetish as well
I don't think the author meant chasers, a lot of trans people interpret (or develop through) their transness a "being the other gender" fetish.
I feel like the way they included stop portions on the masculine side they should've also included a stop portion on the feminine side because femboys are valid too, and aren't just "trans girls in-denial" like is often said about us.
I think you could stop at any point along the chart, although some of them seem pretty far from comfortable to me.
That is true, I mean that this one
Is also a natural stopping point for femboys in the same way that this one
is for Gender Conforming Cis people.
So while technecally any point could be a stopping point, despite being very uncomfortable (especially this one) what I meant is that this is a definitive end point for people who consider themselves femboys, as in males who identify as male but choose to dress and present in a feminine way.
Yeah, I get you. I think the two panels directly above those are also likely stopping points, just a cis dude who's attracted to trans bodies (everyone can have a fetish but...) or a cis dude who thinks gender exploration is fascinating (much healthier imo)
Would be so much better if they didn't use the abbreviate of "TG" and just wrote it out. Like I'm trans and don't 100% know what they meant. Like I assume it's trans gender? But then that doesn't quite fit dramatically with the first sentence.
I need a third arrow that goes from the starting position which is literally just a path into space cuz idk what's going on and I'm attracted to everyone and I don't feel gender in any way and what the fuck is even life or sth idk
Maybe agender would resonate with you?
Also, one of my genderfluid friends describes their sexuality as bi but as "gay in both directions" which is just delightful to me.
Just casually slipping through the cracks here: I kinda don't care who I am nor do I have a fetish (at least afaik), but I find some stuff you ppl do generally interesting (e.g. voice lessons).
The voice changing stuff is like wildly interesting, I think there could be a future where more people consider it as part of their presentation.
Damn ADORABLE
I think I am the one beneath the top left...? Like, I wouldn't mind being a girl but no way would I change my body. I like this. It would feel very weird and wrong to be using she/her. But if an imaginary scenario where you could just flip a lever to be in a different body without anyone making a fuss about it existed – I'd flip that lever.
This is wonderful, though I feel like "I don't feel super comfortable in my body" as a pre-cursor to nonbinary identity is a narrow view. I didn't experience much gender dysphoria before transitioning, but I experience a hell of a lot of gender euphoria when exploring my nb side.
Maybe I am real egg, hell
So what it TG?
Transgender
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