This president has taught us it’s time to get rid of a lot of things.
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pazuzuzu @leminal.space - 17hr
We knew that in 2020. I'll never forgive Biden for his inaction on reducing executive power.
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santa @sh.itjust.works - 2day
Jackson called it. Unchecked power and running criminals enterprise out of WH.
GOP is a joke.
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Prior_Industry - 17hr
The GOP is doing what it was ultimately designed to do. They always wanted to be full mask off as it's less effort than having to pretend. Trump allows them to be who they always wanted to be.
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ToiletFlushShowerScream - 2day
Help me understand why presidential pardons exist?
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pheonixdown @sh.itjust.works - 2day
More or less the same reason jury nullification exists, just concentrated on executive leadership. The problem isn't that it exists, the problem is the bribery and ethical issues. Theoretically, if the executive is abusing the power, the legislature is supposed to remove them, but since we no longer operate in a system where that will happen... Here we are.
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fizzle - 1day
Jury nullification doesn't exist by intentional design.
Its simply a function of not being able to prosecute jurors for their decisions.
I guess its similar to pardons in that the system is based on the assumption that no one would abuse these caveats.
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Pup Biru - 20hr
because the world can’t be sorted into neat little boxes, and the law isn’t perfect. there are many things that are technically crimes that would be a moral imperative to ignore (eg whistleblowing, draft dodging for the vietnam war)
the law should be tempered. the system the US provides for that is police discretion, prosecutorial discretion, and pardon
perhaps the system should be different, but a mechanism to pardon people for crimes where society has moved on (selling weed, for example), or where a moral imperative to break the law exists (again, something like whistleblowers: chelsea manning was pardoned… or rather her sentence was commuted, which i believe is different but similar logical reasoning) is very important imo
you can’t simultaneously and logically hold these 2 things:
lawmakers are idiots and the laws they make are broken and often moral
the law is perfect and this should be applied without exception
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Wispy2891 @lemmy.world - 1day
The pardon of Changpeng Zhao, founder of cryptocurrency exchange Binance, drew scrutiny after lobbyists were paid approximately $800,000 before the pardon was granted.
According to Forbes, Zhao is the richest Canadian and the 21st-richest person in the world, with a net worth estimated at $88.0 billion as of October 2025
Literally peanuts. Paying bribes this cheap it's a no brainer. Compared to the median American net worth it's like paying $2.
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pulsewidth @lemmy.world - 18hr
I'm sure the paper trail showing what the lobbyists were paid is the mere tip of the iceberg.
There's no way in hell the founder of a cryptocurrency exchange didn't give Trump a massive payday of crypto off the books to secure his pardon.
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Wispy2891 @lemmy.world - 16hr
Well, by pure coincidence, a stablecoin that wlfi is printing (Trump) was placed on binance just days after the pardon. But this is surely a coincidence
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Ininewcrow - 2day
Sounds more like a Christmas special for oligarchs ... that's a pretty cheap price for a billionaire.
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bufalo1973 - 1day
Presidential pardon is a direct son of king's pardon. And it's the same shit that should be eradicated.
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LastYearsIrritant @sopuli.xyz - 12hr
Naw, Presidential Pardons should always be an option, cause a president should always be able to release prisoners jailed by their predecessor.
Whoever comes after trump needs a way to release the people trump went after for political reasons.
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billwashere - 1day
If there isn’t some law created to stop these quid pro quo pardons then the presidential pardons should be removed.
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spongebue @lemmy.world - 20hr
Sounds like bribery to me. Which has a law and a cause for impeachment in the Constitution.
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Lushed_Lungfish @lemmy.ca - 19hr
The Constitution? You mean Trump's TP?
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MumboJumbo @lemmy.world - 17hr
Unless it wasn't a bribe but just a gratuity. Thanks Roberts court!
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CitizenKong @lemmy.world - 2day
Hey look, the shithole banana republic is doing shithole banana republic things again!
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SnarkoPolo @lemmy.world - 19hr
Welcome to the new reality, Fascist America.
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CharlesDarwin @lemmy.world - 2day
The Taco Crime Family.
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nostrauxendar @lemmy.world - 10hr
That seems surprisingly cheap?
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TigerAce @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 10hr
When you put a criminal in office, you can expect him to pardon other criminals. It's not rocket science. "Hey guys! I can control who can go free! Where are my close buddies? Ah yes, pardon. Oh you want that too? I love money, just so you know."
Redditsux in politics @lemmy.world
$6 million bounties on the table for securing a Trump pardon: report
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-pardons-money-ceo/It’s time to get rid of pardons.
This president has taught us it’s time to get rid of a lot of things.
We knew that in 2020. I'll never forgive Biden for his inaction on reducing executive power.
Jackson called it. Unchecked power and running criminals enterprise out of WH.
GOP is a joke.
The GOP is doing what it was ultimately designed to do. They always wanted to be full mask off as it's less effort than having to pretend. Trump allows them to be who they always wanted to be.
Help me understand why presidential pardons exist?
More or less the same reason jury nullification exists, just concentrated on executive leadership. The problem isn't that it exists, the problem is the bribery and ethical issues. Theoretically, if the executive is abusing the power, the legislature is supposed to remove them, but since we no longer operate in a system where that will happen... Here we are.
Jury nullification doesn't exist by intentional design.
Its simply a function of not being able to prosecute jurors for their decisions.
I guess its similar to pardons in that the system is based on the assumption that no one would abuse these caveats.
because the world can’t be sorted into neat little boxes, and the law isn’t perfect. there are many things that are technically crimes that would be a moral imperative to ignore (eg whistleblowing, draft dodging for the vietnam war)
the law should be tempered. the system the US provides for that is police discretion, prosecutorial discretion, and pardon
perhaps the system should be different, but a mechanism to pardon people for crimes where society has moved on (selling weed, for example), or where a moral imperative to break the law exists (again, something like whistleblowers: chelsea manning was pardoned… or rather her sentence was commuted, which i believe is different but similar logical reasoning) is very important imo
you can’t simultaneously and logically hold these 2 things:
Literally peanuts. Paying bribes this cheap it's a no brainer. Compared to the median American net worth it's like paying $2.
I'm sure the paper trail showing what the lobbyists were paid is the mere tip of the iceberg.
There's no way in hell the founder of a cryptocurrency exchange didn't give Trump a massive payday of crypto off the books to secure his pardon.
Well, by pure coincidence, a stablecoin that wlfi is printing (Trump) was placed on binance just days after the pardon. But this is surely a coincidence
Sounds more like a Christmas special for oligarchs ... that's a pretty cheap price for a billionaire.
Presidential pardon is a direct son of king's pardon. And it's the same shit that should be eradicated.
Naw, Presidential Pardons should always be an option, cause a president should always be able to release prisoners jailed by their predecessor.
Whoever comes after trump needs a way to release the people trump went after for political reasons.
If there isn’t some law created to stop these quid pro quo pardons then the presidential pardons should be removed.
Sounds like bribery to me. Which has a law and a cause for impeachment in the Constitution.
The Constitution? You mean Trump's TP?
Unless it wasn't a bribe but just a gratuity. Thanks Roberts court!
Hey look, the shithole banana republic is doing shithole banana republic things again!
Welcome to the new reality, Fascist America.
The Taco Crime Family.
That seems surprisingly cheap?
When you put a criminal in office, you can expect him to pardon other criminals. It's not rocket science. "Hey guys! I can control who can go free! Where are my close buddies? Ah yes, pardon. Oh you want that too? I love money, just so you know."