I don't even understand how that's possible. The Xbox might be 20 years old, but the 360 is the new one, isn't it?
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shneancy @lemmy.world - 1day
as a 25 year old i agree, there's no way xbox 360 is only 5 years younger than me, that thing came out recently what the hell
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Denvil @lemmy.ml - 1day
I'm 19, the 360 is older than me?????
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Hadriscus @jlai.lu - 1day
yea ! it's the newest one ! gotta try that gears of war thing, looks dope ! let's meet at 4 at my place ?? my mom made cookies
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SeventySeven @sh.itjust.works - 16hr
Reading those words filled me existential dread.
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Chloé 🥕 - 1day
fun fact! the xbox 360 is as old now as the NES was when the 360 released 🙂
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Hadriscus @jlai.lu - 1day
no, that cannot be
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marcos @lemmy.world - 1day
I had to check. If you live in Japan, that was last year. In the US it was in 2025.
This is just unthinkable. I still haven't accepted it.
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pahlimur @lemmy.world - 1day
Feels like my OG 360 elite just red ringed yesterday. I still use one of the controllers for PC gaming.
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edgemaster72 @lemmy.world - 15hr
not fun fact: I had more hair when the 360 released than now or when the NES released
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NeatNit @discuss.tchncs.de - 23hr
no way, you're lying
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missingno - 2day
So you're into retro memes?
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io - 2day
yea i thought people on lemny often like memes about being old for sone reason
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Rolivers - 1day
It's called an Xbox 360 because when you see it you turn around 360 degrees and walk away.
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CaptainBasculin - 2day
Your PS3 can play PS2 and PS1 games natively and can emulate SNES, GBA, Genesis and MAME games with CFW.
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BlackVenom @lemmy.world - 1day
Some PS3s can. OG models mostly. It then became software emulation... For which your PC can probably do better, cheaper.
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CarrotsHaveEars - 1day
As long as your emulators on computer run at full speed, the hardware solution in phat PS3 has no advantage. Unless your gameplay depends on some specific hardware behaviour the software can't or doesn't emulate, which never happens for regular gamers.
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Enzy @feddit.nu - 1day
laughs in PC
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Grandwolf319 @sh.itjust.works - 1day
Laughs in steam deck
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observes_depths @aussie.zone - 8hr
Laughs in linux emulations
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Oaksey @lemmy.world - 1day
Can play Blu-Rays too
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Grandwolf319 @sh.itjust.works - 1day
I mean, we are on PS5 and that feels like it came out a while ago.
It’s also technology plateauing, a PS3 isn’t functionally very different than a PS5.
IMO it’s actually inferior since you got to play for online play
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ilinamorato @lemmy.world - 1day
I dunno, I feel like I can still pick out PS3-era graphics. But the PS4 and PS5 are so similar that they still co-release games for both with only minor visual upgrades, so I agree with your overall point if not your example.
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fishy @lemmy.today - 1day
As a child of the eighties, it feels like post PS3 things totally stagnated but this is a couple of factors working together to create the illusion that there's been no progress. First off we went from everything being 2d to everything being 3d in the course of a single console generation. There used to be huge and noticeable upgrades because models were getting so much more detail with every generation. There's also the diminishing returns they're getting on graphical enhancements; the leaps forward require massively more powerful hardware to render and most of the enhancement is in details and effects which aren't as noticeable as doubling the polygon count of your models.
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Blackmist @feddit.uk - 9hr
The last game I played that I immediately thought "wow, there's no way this would even be possible in a previous gen" was GTA3.
Even this latest gen, the biggest improvement feels like the SSD rather than the raytracing.
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NeatNit @discuss.tchncs.de - 23hr
From my limited understanding, the PS3's architecture is actually very different from PCs and modern consoles. From a developer's perspective, it was very different to make games for it, its capabilities and strengths and weaknesses were just different. So it's no surprise that its games have a certain look and feel to them.
The PS4 and later, OTOH, is a more standard PC architecture which means iterative improvements and less difference between generations.
Disclaimer: didn't fact-check any of this, would appreciate replies correcting mistakes
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ilinamorato @lemmy.world - 19hr
I think you might be one generation ahead. I remember the PS3 being touted as a computer in its own right, and stories about people installing Linux on it.
The PS3 could run Linux initially, but Sony remotely disabled it on account of being a shower of cunts, resulting in a bunch of lawsuits (which even more cuntingly they paid out on, sooner than re-enable Linux).
That said I think you may be talking slightly at cross purposes; the ability to run Linux isn’t tied to processor architecture, and doesn’t mean anything in terms of what the PS3 was like to develop for as a professional game studio.
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ilinamorato @lemmy.world - 18hr
Fair point.
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themachinestops @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 15hr
PS3 cell processor was so amazing that people were building supercomputers with it, it was cheaper that using regular computers.
In mid-2007, Gaurav Khanna, a professor in the Physics Department of the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth independently built a message-passing based cluster using eight PS3s running Fedora Linux, named the PS3 Gravity Grid. It was built with support from Sony Computer Entertainment as the first PS3 cluster with published scientific results. It performed astrophysical simulations of large supermassive black holes capturing smaller compact objects. Khanna claims that its performance exceeds that of a 100+ Intel Xeon core based traditional Linux cluster, on his simulations. The PS3 Gravity Grid gathered significant media attention from 2007 through 2010. Khanna also created an instructional website on building such clusters.
On March 28, 2010, Sony announced it would be disabling the PS3's OtherOS feature, with the v3.21 update, due to security concerns. This update would not affect any existing supercomputing clusters, because they are not connected to PlayStation Network and would not be forced to update. However, it would make replacing the individual consoles that compose the clusters very difficult or impossible, because newer models would be shipped with v3.21. This caused the end of the PS3's common use for clustered computing, though projects like "The Condor" were still being created with older PS3 units, and have come online after that update.
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ilinamorato @lemmy.world - 8hr
Yeah, that's what I thought I recalled! Thanks.
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GlendatheGayWitch @lemmy.world - 15hr
Not to mention the awful UI for the PS5 and potential lack of a disc drive, so you may not have a bluray/DVD player
Also I have to turn off the ps5 controllers before plugging them in or they won't charge.
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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ - 1day
If it weren't for that damn Switch, the 360 would be the newest console I own.
Here's what's just plugged in at the moment, and not in milk crates in the basement:
(Don't @ me about my shitty cell phone picture I took in the dark. I'm not getting out the mirrorless and the studio lighting for this, plus this way the potato quality handily conceals the fact that I probably also need to vacuum that carpet.)
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NeatNit @discuss.tchncs.de - 23hr
What are you talking about? The photo quality is great. It's not studio quality, but calling it potato quality would make the actually bad photos... what's worse than potato? Hamster wheel quality?
Calling this photo "potato quality" is the same as calling the 360 and the PS3 "retro consoles".
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Bosht @lemmy.world - 1day
Honestly the only thing I as going to comment was the weight maximum on that shelving. Setup is great, would hate for you to lose something to fall damage because the shelving gave out.
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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ - 1day
I built that myself. Most of it is 3/4" ply. The shelves are side-screwed with 2-1/4" Spax screws, not resting on pegs (thus, also they can't be moved). It's not going anywhere.
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Bosht @lemmy.world - 16hr
Oh shit nice! Apologies, it looks like any other mainstream cabinet / entertainment center so I assumed it was some shitheap of fiber board. Good stuff man! Keep gaming!
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🧟♂️ Cadaver - 10hr
Seeing the amount of dust that has gathered everywhere, the carpet would be the least of my worries.
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Hjalmar - 2day
Ohh no, you made me feel old. My dad had a Xbox 360, and I was born in fucking 2009
Edit: and I played on it alot. Castle crashers was amazing (:
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MajesticTechie @feddit.uk - 1day
You were born in 2009?
turns to dust and crumbles away
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Hadriscus @jlai.lu - 1day
I heard they still make 'em today !!
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io - 1day
careful online posting your age when ur under 18 cause of pedos
The Xbox runs the og XBMC. It is still my media server after 20ish years. Having to use FTP for it is kind of a pain, though. Upside is 500gb hard drive with old Xbox games and every emulator game I'd ever want to run.
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moseschrute @lemmy.zip - 1day
You forgot the Wii, which is the obvious winner here
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IngeniousRocks (They/She) - 1day
Little emulation powerhouse, I love my Wii.
Jailbroken to hell and back with half of the library on an SSD and all the emulators I want (except xemu, but like, that's a pipe dream the thing isn't that powerful).
I recommend literally everyone who has a wii in their garage or attic, pull it out and spend some time jailbreaking it, the things are really great consoles, bonus points if you have a CRT for it.
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ProdigalFrog - 1day
I picked up a cheap Wii to give it a try for the first time after looking into its library and finding out how many gems it had.
I've jailbroken a bit in the past, like the OG Xbox and PSP, but by god, the documentation available for jailbreaking the Wii is just superb, made it an absolute breeze to do. But what shocked me the most was the tools available post jailbreak. Being able to quickly connect the Wii to wifi and then have access to an extremely polished Homebrew software store, full of emulators and cool little community made games, which I could download directly to my wii effortlessly with the push of a button was something I had never experienced before with older consoles.
After playing around with it for a few weeks, it quickly went from a console I had passed over for decades as a gimmick, to literally my favorite console of all time. Such a great little box with so many games that give a totally unique experience. Also the balance board combined with Wii Fit and the multiple EA Fitness games for it offer a surprisingly fun way to motivate you to get some decent aerobic exercise.
It also helps that they're really well made, quiet little devices that barely take up any room (and it doubles as a gamecube, too!)
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moseschrute @lemmy.zip - 1day
Yes! My only complaint is games will sometimes freeze for a second. It’s particularly annoying for just dance. If you have any tips for that, I’d love to hear them. I’m using a flash drive instead of SSD, so maybe it’s that?
It’s been awhile since I loaded games onto storage, but back when I did it, that software was only available on windows. Idk if it’s gotten any better since then, but I have literally no reason to use windows other than hacking my Wii
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IngeniousRocks (They/She) - 1day
Flash drive are usually Kinda terrible, especially at the Wii's USB2.0 speed. I'd consider an SDXC card. I use a partition on my 512GB SDXC for my games with heavier assets (lol @ heavy wii games, like why?) to improve loading speed. The wii's SD slot is significantly faster than its USB ports.
If you use a big SD like that, you don't need to partition it, I only do that because I also use that card in other consoles and like to keep the data separate.
Sam and Woody are talking. Same says that sometimes he likes to put on really old rock and roll; The Supremes, Buddy Holly, Screaming Jay Hawkins, and the like. He asks Woody if he likes the old stuff.
I don't, says Woody, but my Mom used to like to put on her old Devo records.
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tio_bira @lemmy.world - 1day
As somenone who grown up playing super nintendo, mega drive, N64 and Playstation One, everytime i see one of these memes, it make me remember than my knee hurt for a reason...
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ollie @pawb.social - 1day
love my wii u to bits, including the wii games i play on it that are older than me
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Yerbouti - 1day
Have you played Alley Cat?
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hayvan - 11hr
Fun fact, last summer we had an intern younger than the Wii in our gaming room.
Folklore was one of the best launch games. This was also when the first Uncharted was a launch game.
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jaschen306 @sh.itjust.works - 1day
How long before all the games are public domain?
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affenlehrer @feddit.org - 1day
About 80 years I believe
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jaschen306 @sh.itjust.works - 1day
Jesus, that's way too long.
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affenlehrer @feddit.org - 15hr
I'm not sure about the exact duration. It differs from country to country and they keep extending the copyright protection to squeeze more money out of everything, even long after the death of the creators
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jaschen306 @sh.itjust.works - 14hr
Ya, I think 20 yeas or even 40 years is enough.
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MissJinx @lemmy.world - 1day
I'm so nostalgic for N64. I remember getting it for christmas. It was the most awesome gift I ever got. Endless hours playing with my brother and RENTING games! lol It will always be my favorite
io in memes @lemmy.world
retro gaminh
https://piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone/posts/XS/fZ/XSfZNzG2ltnn3OL.jpegXbox 360 turned 20 this year
I don't even understand how that's possible. The Xbox might be 20 years old, but the 360 is the new one, isn't it?
as a 25 year old i agree, there's no way xbox 360 is only 5 years younger than me, that thing came out recently what the hell
I'm 19, the 360 is older than me?????
yea ! it's the newest one ! gotta try that gears of war thing, looks dope ! let's meet at 4 at my place ?? my mom made cookies
Reading those words filled me existential dread.
fun fact! the xbox 360 is as old now as the NES was when the 360 released 🙂
no, that cannot be
I had to check. If you live in Japan, that was last year. In the US it was in 2025.
This is just unthinkable. I still haven't accepted it.
Feels like my OG 360 elite just red ringed yesterday. I still use one of the controllers for PC gaming.
not fun fact: I had more hair when the 360 released than now or when the NES released
no way, you're lying
So you're into retro memes?
yea i thought people on lemny often like memes about being old for sone reason
It's called an Xbox 360 because when you see it you turn around 360 degrees and walk away.
Your PS3 can play PS2 and PS1 games natively and can emulate SNES, GBA, Genesis and MAME games with CFW.
Some PS3s can. OG models mostly. It then became software emulation... For which your PC can probably do better, cheaper.
As long as your emulators on computer run at full speed, the hardware solution in phat PS3 has no advantage. Unless your gameplay depends on some specific hardware behaviour the software can't or doesn't emulate, which never happens for regular gamers.
laughs in PC
Laughs in steam deck
Laughs in linux emulations
Can play Blu-Rays too
I mean, we are on PS5 and that feels like it came out a while ago.
It’s also technology plateauing, a PS3 isn’t functionally very different than a PS5.
IMO it’s actually inferior since you got to play for online play
I dunno, I feel like I can still pick out PS3-era graphics. But the PS4 and PS5 are so similar that they still co-release games for both with only minor visual upgrades, so I agree with your overall point if not your example.
As a child of the eighties, it feels like post PS3 things totally stagnated but this is a couple of factors working together to create the illusion that there's been no progress. First off we went from everything being 2d to everything being 3d in the course of a single console generation. There used to be huge and noticeable upgrades because models were getting so much more detail with every generation. There's also the diminishing returns they're getting on graphical enhancements; the leaps forward require massively more powerful hardware to render and most of the enhancement is in details and effects which aren't as noticeable as doubling the polygon count of your models.
The last game I played that I immediately thought "wow, there's no way this would even be possible in a previous gen" was GTA3.
Even this latest gen, the biggest improvement feels like the SSD rather than the raytracing.
From my limited understanding, the PS3's architecture is actually very different from PCs and modern consoles. From a developer's perspective, it was very different to make games for it, its capabilities and strengths and weaknesses were just different. So it's no surprise that its games have a certain look and feel to them.
The PS4 and later, OTOH, is a more standard PC architecture which means iterative improvements and less difference between generations.
Disclaimer: didn't fact-check any of this, would appreciate replies correcting mistakes
I think you might be one generation ahead. I remember the PS3 being touted as a computer in its own right, and stories about people installing Linux on it.
But I could be wrong.
It was marketed for PS2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_for_PlayStation_2
The PS3 could run Linux initially, but Sony remotely disabled it on account of being a shower of cunts, resulting in a bunch of lawsuits (which even more cuntingly they paid out on, sooner than re-enable Linux).
That said I think you may be talking slightly at cross purposes; the ability to run Linux isn’t tied to processor architecture, and doesn’t mean anything in terms of what the PS3 was like to develop for as a professional game studio.
Fair point.
PS3 cell processor was so amazing that people were building supercomputers with it, it was cheaper that using regular computers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster
In mid-2007, Gaurav Khanna, a professor in the Physics Department of the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth independently built a message-passing based cluster using eight PS3s running Fedora Linux, named the PS3 Gravity Grid. It was built with support from Sony Computer Entertainment as the first PS3 cluster with published scientific results. It performed astrophysical simulations of large supermassive black holes capturing smaller compact objects. Khanna claims that its performance exceeds that of a 100+ Intel Xeon core based traditional Linux cluster, on his simulations. The PS3 Gravity Grid gathered significant media attention from 2007 through 2010. Khanna also created an instructional website on building such clusters.
On March 28, 2010, Sony announced it would be disabling the PS3's OtherOS feature, with the v3.21 update, due to security concerns. This update would not affect any existing supercomputing clusters, because they are not connected to PlayStation Network and would not be forced to update. However, it would make replacing the individual consoles that compose the clusters very difficult or impossible, because newer models would be shipped with v3.21. This caused the end of the PS3's common use for clustered computing, though projects like "The Condor" were still being created with older PS3 units, and have come online after that update.
Yeah, that's what I thought I recalled! Thanks.
Not to mention the awful UI for the PS5 and potential lack of a disc drive, so you may not have a bluray/DVD player
Also I have to turn off the ps5 controllers before plugging them in or they won't charge.
If it weren't for that damn Switch, the 360 would be the newest console I own.
Here's what's just plugged in at the moment, and not in milk crates in the basement:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/66b0b8bc-8cba-426d-9b41-ad101f5a4352.jpeg
(Don't @ me about my shitty cell phone picture I took in the dark. I'm not getting out the mirrorless and the studio lighting for this, plus this way the potato quality handily conceals the fact that I probably also need to vacuum that carpet.)
What are you talking about? The photo quality is great. It's not studio quality, but calling it potato quality would make the actually bad photos... what's worse than potato? Hamster wheel quality?
Calling this photo "potato quality" is the same as calling the 360 and the PS3 "retro consoles".
Honestly the only thing I as going to comment was the weight maximum on that shelving. Setup is great, would hate for you to lose something to fall damage because the shelving gave out.
I built that myself. Most of it is 3/4" ply. The shelves are side-screwed with 2-1/4" Spax screws, not resting on pegs (thus, also they can't be moved). It's not going anywhere.
Oh shit nice! Apologies, it looks like any other mainstream cabinet / entertainment center so I assumed it was some shitheap of fiber board. Good stuff man! Keep gaming!
Seeing the amount of dust that has gathered everywhere, the carpet would be the least of my worries.
Ohh no, you made me feel old. My dad had a Xbox 360, and I was born in fucking 2009
Edit: and I played on it alot. Castle crashers was amazing (:
You were born in 2009?
turns to dust and crumbles away
I heard they still make 'em today !!
careful online posting your age when ur under 18 cause of pedos
https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/817b6e2a-c4fa-4ab6-8ae6-ddf0f4a08294.avif
The Xbox runs the og XBMC. It is still my media server after 20ish years. Having to use FTP for it is kind of a pain, though. Upside is 500gb hard drive with old Xbox games and every emulator game I'd ever want to run.
You forgot the Wii, which is the obvious winner here
Little emulation powerhouse, I love my Wii.
Jailbroken to hell and back with half of the library on an SSD and all the emulators I want (except xemu, but like, that's a pipe dream the thing isn't that powerful).
I recommend literally everyone who has a wii in their garage or attic, pull it out and spend some time jailbreaking it, the things are really great consoles, bonus points if you have a CRT for it.
I picked up a cheap Wii to give it a try for the first time after looking into its library and finding out how many gems it had.
I've jailbroken a bit in the past, like the OG Xbox and PSP, but by god, the documentation available for jailbreaking the Wii is just superb, made it an absolute breeze to do. But what shocked me the most was the tools available post jailbreak. Being able to quickly connect the Wii to wifi and then have access to an extremely polished Homebrew software store, full of emulators and cool little community made games, which I could download directly to my wii effortlessly with the push of a button was something I had never experienced before with older consoles.
After playing around with it for a few weeks, it quickly went from a console I had passed over for decades as a gimmick, to literally my favorite console of all time. Such a great little box with so many games that give a totally unique experience. Also the balance board combined with Wii Fit and the multiple EA Fitness games for it offer a surprisingly fun way to motivate you to get some decent aerobic exercise.
It also helps that they're really well made, quiet little devices that barely take up any room (and it doubles as a gamecube, too!)
Yes! My only complaint is games will sometimes freeze for a second. It’s particularly annoying for just dance. If you have any tips for that, I’d love to hear them. I’m using a flash drive instead of SSD, so maybe it’s that?
It’s been awhile since I loaded games onto storage, but back when I did it, that software was only available on windows. Idk if it’s gotten any better since then, but I have literally no reason to use windows other than hacking my Wii
Flash drive are usually Kinda terrible, especially at the Wii's USB2.0 speed. I'd consider an SDXC card. I use a partition on my 512GB SDXC for my games with heavier assets (lol @ heavy wii games, like why?) to improve loading speed. The wii's SD slot is significantly faster than its USB ports.
If you use a big SD like that, you don't need to partition it, I only do that because I also use that card in other consoles and like to keep the data separate.
It's been 20 years, man.
I missed you so much
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/852/325/8d6.gif
Similar joke from 'Cheers.'
Sam and Woody are talking. Same says that sometimes he likes to put on really old rock and roll; The Supremes, Buddy Holly, Screaming Jay Hawkins, and the like. He asks Woody if he likes the old stuff.
I don't, says Woody, but my Mom used to like to put on her old Devo records.
As somenone who grown up playing super nintendo, mega drive, N64 and Playstation One, everytime i see one of these memes, it make me remember than my knee hurt for a reason...
love my wii u to bits, including the wii games i play on it that are older than me
Have you played Alley Cat?
Fun fact, last summer we had an intern younger than the Wii in our gaming room.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/6564ed20-4aed-45e3-be8c-2c3086d71754.jpeg
ifunny.c🙂
insert Matt Damon aging meme
Somebody call an ambulance!!
Folklore was one of the best launch games. This was also when the first Uncharted was a launch game.
How long before all the games are public domain?
About 80 years I believe
Jesus, that's way too long.
I'm not sure about the exact duration. It differs from country to country and they keep extending the copyright protection to squeeze more money out of everything, even long after the death of the creators
Ya, I think 20 yeas or even 40 years is enough.
I'm so nostalgic for N64. I remember getting it for christmas. It was the most awesome gift I ever got. Endless hours playing with my brother and RENTING games! lol It will always be my favorite
https://www.alt.org/nethack/hterm/
wait, the xbox 360 and ps3 are considered retro consoles?
thatsthejoke.jpg
I mean…I guess? I feel like there are better consoles from that general era +/- 5 years to choose from, but whatever floats their boat.