"You cant expect us to get used to this [new Name/pronouns] for those few times you visit"
Well, so its this time of the year again, where I am staying at my parents place for about 2 weeks. Due to the fact, that they were semingly unwilling to accept me and my new name/pronouns I decided to go the confrontational way and start correcting them when they misgender/deadname me. I knew that this would spark some discussions, but oh boy I was not prepared that this would bring out what they really think about me. My mom literally said "I will not do something that I dont believe in" (they always said, that they were "accepting" me (they didnt, but they at least said so, looks like they dont even try to hide it)), but even worse I got to hear "You cant expect us to get used to this for those few times you visit". Are you fucking kidding me? I am not more important than a slight inconvenience? You are really not understanding, that this isnt about something being worth it, but instead about your fucking child you raised? I have been here for literally one day and my motivation to stay has already dropped to zero. I am planning to leave at the end of the first week of January, but I guess I will probably leave shortly after new years eve (or maybe already at 30th since I have a perfect excuse for leaving that day). Worst of all: I dont even have weed anymore, so I cant even get stoned as fuck (even if it would only be in the evening) to make it a little bit more bearable. I had hope, that they somehow might still become more accepting once I require the new name/pronouns, but it looks like, this has only made them more hostile towards me. Only good thing is, that I will have the chance to avoid them for most of the day for the 25/26th. Wish me luck, that I can stand through this for one more week, I will try to get out of this as soon as possible.
Edit: Thank ya all for your kind words. I highly appreciate it.
wia - 3day
Why stay at all? Can you just leave now? I would. Set the tone.
Luckily I get along with my parents a lot and I love them but if they said that to me, I'd be gone.
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webp @mander.xyz - 3day
I'd second this especially if she has accepting people in her life to celebrate with
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da_cow (she/her) - 3day
I can't leave now and I kind of want to annoy them a little bit more to make my point clear. I will definitely leave earlier than planned and they will 100% get to hear the exact reason why I Am leaving earlier than planned.
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wia - 2day
Give em hell! And good luck!
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grue @lemmy.world - 3day
Gee, I wonder why you visit so rarely?
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da_cow (she/her) - 3day
Idk must be some weird random circumstances that prevent it every time.
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Eq0 @literature.cafe - 3day
That’s what gets me. “You visit so rarely, let me make it uncomfortable for you!”
I’m so sorry. You said you accept internet hugs, so please accept mine as well 🫂 and remember you can leave early.
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macniel - 3day
“You cant expect us to get used to this for those few times you visit”
that's such a stupid statement. They probably have friends they met irregular as well and they remember their names.
Sorry Kuh that this shit happens to you. Let me give you some virtual hugs 🫂
tomorrow I met with my parents (AfD wähler and shit) won't be nice, but I do it for my grandma, so I absolutely can feel you.
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LadyAutumn - 3day
I put my foot down with all my family. I will loudly cut them off, ignore them if they address me with my deadname, awkwardly interrupt them and insist they change terms. I mean I just generally was as persistent and as annoying as possible. Made it very clear that they were gonna change or I was gone. In the end they got the message and adapted. It took a while though. Anyone who refused to adapt I cut out. I have 0 time or patience for someone who doesnt respect me. I have cut off friends and family who have been a part of my life since I was a young child because they wouldnt respect me. I'm not going to lower myself that way.
You deserve better than that. They dont deserve your respect if they will not respect you.
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Shirow @lemmy.zip - 3day
I haven't yet done my social transition (nor medical yet but soon). I can only imagine what you feel.
Wishing you the best (at least the best it can be right now), all I can offer is virtual hug 🤗
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da_cow (she/her) - 3day
Hugs (even virtual ones) are always appreciated.
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Sarah - 3day
I have the stance that being around ones children after they grow up is a privilege, not a right. I hope to remember this when I raise my kids and send them into the world, and cherish every time they come back to visit the nest.
I wish every parent was like that.
-Holiday hugs-
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Cait - 3day
If they can't respect you, then you don't visit / leave. That's what I did with my father. You don't have to accept that kind of abuse. You don't have to cut them out, just set healthy boundaries and give them chances to better themselves.
Really, for your own mental health, don't put yourself through this, it's not worth it, they clearly don't respect you.
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GalacticSushi - 3day
You cant expect us to get used to this for those few times you visit
They might as well say "we actively choose not to use your preferred name or pronouns when you aren't around. We refuse put in any amount of effort to get used to it in the first place, how can you blame us for not being used to it?"
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LadyMeow - 3day
I won’t do something I don’t believe in
I mean if that isn’t explicitly spelled out idk what would be
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Smuuthbrane - 3day
That sucks. Wishing you better friends and chosen family than what you were born to. Merry Christmas, [chosen name]!
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GooseGang [she/her] - 3day
Good luck! If it was a last name change for marriage would they be complaining about short term memory loss? I bet not. I hope you can spend the holidays with people who actually care about who you are and value your well-being :) leaving sooner than later sounds like a great idea.
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brookedSmile - 2day
This so much! People like this tend to be the exact same people that would remember a surname marriage change. Its not about forgetfulness,
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undeffeined @lemmy.ml - 3day
So sorry you are going through this.
I don't understand parents that are unwilling to be there for their children when all they are doing is being themselves. I mean fuck, they should be happy that you want to be your true self around them and not hide under a mask.
Also not having weed sucks!! I hope you can find a way out of there quick!
Merry xmas
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Berengaria_of_Navarre @lemmy.world - 3day
You're in the unenviable position of being probably about half my age. I'm not sure I would have been able to deal with my family if I started to transition back then. As it happens I now live about 2 days travel from them so I see them for max a week every year.
But, I'm genuinely just planning to pretend a while longer. I don't think either of them has more than 5 years left anyway and there's no sense in depriving my own children of the inheritance, just to make a point. For you it's likely your parents will be around for an additional 20+ years so it's not really worth trying to hide it.
I will say that easing older people into the idea gently will ultimately be more successful if you want to retain some sort of relationship with them. As a species we aren't very good at accepting new information. This is especially true with older people who are bombarded with Facebook, twitter, and legacy media saying you're mentally ill and trying to assassinate politicians because you're a drug smuggling, antisemitic, Antifa thug hell bent on force feminising babies for Hillary Clinton.
It's a bizarre and stupid time to be alive.
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da_cow (she/her) - 3day
They had more than enough time to think about it. We had more than one discussion that I would have ended after 3 sentences if it wouldnt have been my parents. I tried the soft and slow way, that one didnt work, so I will go the confrontational route. I havent started misgendering them too, but if they refuse to use my new name/pronouns i will simply stop listening to my old name and then maybe start to use their own weapons against them. I dont care how much they dislike it. I simply want to be referred to as the right gender.
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Berengaria_of_Navarre @lemmy.world - 3day
I'm not saying you haven't put in the effort. Quite the opposite, I'm sure you've been extremely patient with them. I'm just pointing out that now more than ever there is a concerted effort to demonise trans people in order to prop up right wing regimes. In the past we were thought of as the butt of the joke, but now the media is trying to portray us as unhinged psychos. And that's what you're competing against
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Kiara 🌸 (she/her) - 3day
🫂🌸
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Amy - 3day
Fuck 'em. If they want their daughter in their life, they can learn who you are.
It sucks, but not as much as forcing yourself to be around people who want you to be someone you're not.
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DavidDoesLemmy @aussie.zone - 3day
Nested parentheses in prose... Nice! 👍
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mech @feddit.org - 3day
Not a single semicolon though.
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Redacted @lemmy.zip - 3day
Fuck em, time to find a new family
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Borger - 2day
Hey, I'm really sorry you're having such a shit time :(
I wasn't willing or able to compromise on the way I was treated just to appease the family. It took cutting my family off until the message landed – that there's no relationship with me if they can't get behind my identity. Around the 6 month mark I gave them a chance again and started to feel a change in the atmosphere. Years later and we're finally OK now. (Not great, but OK, and more than teen me could ever have imagined.) I hope you can get to this place someday.
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kluczyczka (she/her) - 3day
stay safe. this all feels very familiar. let's survive! :)
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compostgoblin - 3day
That sucks, I’m so sorry 🫂
It’s so frustrating that not only will they not use your proper name and pronouns around you, but it goes to show they aren’t using them when you aren’t there. Your parents should care about you more than that. I hope you have other people in your life who accept, love, and support you ❤️
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Zorsith - 3day
I don't talk to most of my family because they are incapable of understanding boundaries. I do not value having any kind of relationship with anyone other than my parents and sister. Everyone else has proven this incapability numerous times, including today.
Today, i received a text and an email saying "merry christmas" with a picture of an amazon delivery, at my former address.
At no point did I ever give them my address, or my phone number, or my email address. The only reason i know who it was, is that the gmail account that sent it has my hardcore MAGA grandfathers name next to the email address.
Point being, better to spend your time making yourself happy, than being miserable trying to make someone else happy.
Edit: missed the part about "financially dependent", sorry if this misses the mark
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kersplomp - 3day
I’m sorry. That sucks, and they suck for not understanding. But fwiw they haven’t ejected you from their life so that’s a good sign. thanks for keeping on trying.
I’m saying this selfishly, but it would make the world a better place for everyone to have more people like them on our side. Obv take care of your sanity first.
cows_are_underrated in mtf
"You cant expect us to get used to this [new Name/pronouns] for those few times you visit"
Well, so its this time of the year again, where I am staying at my parents place for about 2 weeks. Due to the fact, that they were semingly unwilling to accept me and my new name/pronouns I decided to go the confrontational way and start correcting them when they misgender/deadname me. I knew that this would spark some discussions, but oh boy I was not prepared that this would bring out what they really think about me. My mom literally said "I will not do something that I dont believe in" (they always said, that they were "accepting" me (they didnt, but they at least said so, looks like they dont even try to hide it)), but even worse I got to hear "You cant expect us to get used to this for those few times you visit". Are you fucking kidding me? I am not more important than a slight inconvenience? You are really not understanding, that this isnt about something being worth it, but instead about your fucking child you raised? I have been here for literally one day and my motivation to stay has already dropped to zero. I am planning to leave at the end of the first week of January, but I guess I will probably leave shortly after new years eve (or maybe already at 30th since I have a perfect excuse for leaving that day). Worst of all: I dont even have weed anymore, so I cant even get stoned as fuck (even if it would only be in the evening) to make it a little bit more bearable. I had hope, that they somehow might still become more accepting once I require the new name/pronouns, but it looks like, this has only made them more hostile towards me. Only good thing is, that I will have the chance to avoid them for most of the day for the 25/26th. Wish me luck, that I can stand through this for one more week, I will try to get out of this as soon as possible.
Edit: Thank ya all for your kind words. I highly appreciate it.
Why stay at all? Can you just leave now? I would. Set the tone.
Luckily I get along with my parents a lot and I love them but if they said that to me, I'd be gone.
I'd second this especially if she has accepting people in her life to celebrate with
I can't leave now and I kind of want to annoy them a little bit more to make my point clear. I will definitely leave earlier than planned and they will 100% get to hear the exact reason why I Am leaving earlier than planned.
Give em hell! And good luck!
Gee, I wonder why you visit so rarely?
Idk must be some weird random circumstances that prevent it every time.
That’s what gets me. “You visit so rarely, let me make it uncomfortable for you!”
I’m so sorry. You said you accept internet hugs, so please accept mine as well 🫂 and remember you can leave early.
that's such a stupid statement. They probably have friends they met irregular as well and they remember their names.
Sorry Kuh that this shit happens to you. Let me give you some virtual hugs 🫂
tomorrow I met with my parents (AfD wähler and shit) won't be nice, but I do it for my grandma, so I absolutely can feel you.
I put my foot down with all my family. I will loudly cut them off, ignore them if they address me with my deadname, awkwardly interrupt them and insist they change terms. I mean I just generally was as persistent and as annoying as possible. Made it very clear that they were gonna change or I was gone. In the end they got the message and adapted. It took a while though. Anyone who refused to adapt I cut out. I have 0 time or patience for someone who doesnt respect me. I have cut off friends and family who have been a part of my life since I was a young child because they wouldnt respect me. I'm not going to lower myself that way.
You deserve better than that. They dont deserve your respect if they will not respect you.
I haven't yet done my social transition (nor medical yet but soon). I can only imagine what you feel.
Wishing you the best (at least the best it can be right now), all I can offer is virtual hug 🤗
Hugs (even virtual ones) are always appreciated.
I have the stance that being around ones children after they grow up is a privilege, not a right. I hope to remember this when I raise my kids and send them into the world, and cherish every time they come back to visit the nest.
I wish every parent was like that.
-Holiday hugs-
If they can't respect you, then you don't visit / leave. That's what I did with my father. You don't have to accept that kind of abuse. You don't have to cut them out, just set healthy boundaries and give them chances to better themselves. Really, for your own mental health, don't put yourself through this, it's not worth it, they clearly don't respect you.
They might as well say "we actively choose not to use your preferred name or pronouns when you aren't around. We refuse put in any amount of effort to get used to it in the first place, how can you blame us for not being used to it?"
I mean if that isn’t explicitly spelled out idk what would be
That sucks. Wishing you better friends and chosen family than what you were born to. Merry Christmas, [chosen name]!
Good luck! If it was a last name change for marriage would they be complaining about short term memory loss? I bet not. I hope you can spend the holidays with people who actually care about who you are and value your well-being :) leaving sooner than later sounds like a great idea.
This so much! People like this tend to be the exact same people that would remember a surname marriage change. Its not about forgetfulness,
So sorry you are going through this.
I don't understand parents that are unwilling to be there for their children when all they are doing is being themselves. I mean fuck, they should be happy that you want to be your true self around them and not hide under a mask.
Also not having weed sucks!! I hope you can find a way out of there quick!
Merry xmas
You're in the unenviable position of being probably about half my age. I'm not sure I would have been able to deal with my family if I started to transition back then. As it happens I now live about 2 days travel from them so I see them for max a week every year.
But, I'm genuinely just planning to pretend a while longer. I don't think either of them has more than 5 years left anyway and there's no sense in depriving my own children of the inheritance, just to make a point. For you it's likely your parents will be around for an additional 20+ years so it's not really worth trying to hide it.
I will say that easing older people into the idea gently will ultimately be more successful if you want to retain some sort of relationship with them. As a species we aren't very good at accepting new information. This is especially true with older people who are bombarded with Facebook, twitter, and legacy media saying you're mentally ill and trying to assassinate politicians because you're a drug smuggling, antisemitic, Antifa thug hell bent on force feminising babies for Hillary Clinton.
It's a bizarre and stupid time to be alive.
They had more than enough time to think about it. We had more than one discussion that I would have ended after 3 sentences if it wouldnt have been my parents. I tried the soft and slow way, that one didnt work, so I will go the confrontational route. I havent started misgendering them too, but if they refuse to use my new name/pronouns i will simply stop listening to my old name and then maybe start to use their own weapons against them. I dont care how much they dislike it. I simply want to be referred to as the right gender.
I'm not saying you haven't put in the effort. Quite the opposite, I'm sure you've been extremely patient with them. I'm just pointing out that now more than ever there is a concerted effort to demonise trans people in order to prop up right wing regimes. In the past we were thought of as the butt of the joke, but now the media is trying to portray us as unhinged psychos. And that's what you're competing against
🫂🌸
Fuck 'em. If they want their daughter in their life, they can learn who you are.
It sucks, but not as much as forcing yourself to be around people who want you to be someone you're not.
Nested parentheses in prose... Nice! 👍
Not a single semicolon though.
Fuck em, time to find a new family
Hey, I'm really sorry you're having such a shit time :(
I wasn't willing or able to compromise on the way I was treated just to appease the family. It took cutting my family off until the message landed – that there's no relationship with me if they can't get behind my identity. Around the 6 month mark I gave them a chance again and started to feel a change in the atmosphere. Years later and we're finally OK now. (Not great, but OK, and more than teen me could ever have imagined.) I hope you can get to this place someday.
stay safe. this all feels very familiar. let's survive! :)
That sucks, I’m so sorry 🫂
It’s so frustrating that not only will they not use your proper name and pronouns around you, but it goes to show they aren’t using them when you aren’t there. Your parents should care about you more than that. I hope you have other people in your life who accept, love, and support you ❤️
I don't talk to most of my family because they are incapable of understanding boundaries. I do not value having any kind of relationship with anyone other than my parents and sister. Everyone else has proven this incapability numerous times, including today.
Today, i received a text and an email saying "merry christmas" with a picture of an amazon delivery, at my former address.
At no point did I ever give them my address, or my phone number, or my email address. The only reason i know who it was, is that the gmail account that sent it has my hardcore MAGA grandfathers name next to the email address.
Point being, better to spend your time making yourself happy, than being miserable trying to make someone else happy.
Edit: missed the part about "financially dependent", sorry if this misses the mark
I’m sorry. That sucks, and they suck for not understanding. But fwiw they haven’t ejected you from their life so that’s a good sign. thanks for keeping on trying.
I’m saying this selfishly, but it would make the world a better place for everyone to have more people like them on our side. Obv take care of your sanity first.