Pirate archivist group scrapes Spotify's 300TB library, posts free torrents for downloading 86,000,000 tracks — investigation underway as music and metadata hit torrent sites
If they get caught, they can always say it was to train an AI model
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SeductiveTortoise - 15hr
I'd be so happy if they tried this in court and got away with it
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sylver_dragon - 12hr
This strategy really depends on their ability to bribe President Trump for a pardon.
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bitjunkie @lemmy.world - 6hr
Not necessarily. There is precedent, they'd just need to make a credible-enough attempt to actually do this with the data (and get the right judge/jury).
Don't know that I would be active enough for what.cd, but I am drawn to archiving, lossless files and comprehensive metadata.
I ripped my hundreds of CDs to FLAC and spent a good while organizing before Spotify came along with its temptations. Have started buying again on Bandcamp lately and been thinking about spinning up jellyfin.
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xvertigox @lemmy.world - 7hr
Musicbrainz Picard + Emby/Jellyfin is a great combo. Emby servers double as navidrome servers so you can use myriad apps to listen.
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red_bull_of_juarez @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6hr
News like this make me sad. I have not been able to replicate the amazing experience I had with Audiogalaxy or Soulseek. By looking for things you liked you could then search what the people who had that music also had lying around and I discovered so much great stuff that way. My taste in music is extremely eclectic but since I've been limited to Spotify, I am rarely discovering weird music anymore. Fuck corporations.
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Hate @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6hr
I have not been able to replicate the amazing experience I had with Audiogalaxy or Soulseek. [...] My taste in music is extremely eclectic but since I've been limited to Spotify, I am rarely discovering weird music anymore. Fuck corporations.
Soulseek is still alive
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red_bull_of_juarez @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 5hr
I know. I haven't been able to get it working, though.
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AndyMFK @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 15hr
If only I had a spare 300TB of storage
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Bakkoda - 11hr
Fyi just to support Annas you can go and tell them how much space you have to spare and generate a few magnet links for you.
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BeardedGingerWonder @feddit.uk - 9hr
Tbh they're probably fucked now they've painted a huge target on their backs.
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xvertigox @lemmy.world - 7hr
As opposed to before ...?
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BeardedGingerWonder @feddit.uk - 5hr
I reckon so, they were pretty low profile before and e-books and journal articles likely don't draw the same audience as a huge open library of music.
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billwashere - 14hr
I do have access to 300tb but do I want to use it for music?
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thatkomputerkat - 12hr
What percentage of it would be something you actually enjoyed listening to?
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Barbecue Cowboy - 11hr
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xvertigox @lemmy.world - 7hr
Archiving/preservation is separate to consuming the content.
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bitjunkie @lemmy.world - 6hr
Precisely. This isn't for people who want to use it. This is for people who want to clone it.
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billwashere - 11hr
Maybe 20%
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thatkomputerkat - 12hr
Damn, I wish I could afford to buy 300TB of local data storage.
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addie @feddit.uk - 11hr
Looks like you can get refurbished 26TB drives for about £340, so 12 of those. PCIe -> 6x SATA adaptors run you about £40 each. Molex to SATA power adaptors about £5. So £4200 will let you store all that with a bit left over for postage and some duct tape to make a storage bay out of the boxes it all came in.
I'd probably want a few more drives for RAID6 and some hot spares, but if you go JBoD then at least you can just download the torrent again ;-)
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slazer2au - 17hr
Hmmmm, I need a new nas.........
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KuroiKaze @lemmy.world - 9hr
Thanks Luffy and the rest of the straw hats as they fight the world government
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mtpender @sh.itjust.works - 12hr
🏴☠️"Drink up me hartys! YO-HO!"🏴☠️
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snoons @lemmy.ca - 18hr
kek
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msage @programming.dev - 17hr
Does spotify already have lossless? Because fuck mp3s for archiving.
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EisFrei @lemmy.world - 15hr
Spotify has flac for premium users. The releases are ogg.
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msage @programming.dev - 15hr
Great, because I remember checking years before, and they still didn't have lossless. Finally they caught up.
Still won't pay.
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theskyisfalling @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 13hr
"Relatively popular songs are stored in their original 160kbit/s OGG Vorbis quality, while the rest use 75kbit/s "
I don't know OGG files but if that is comparable to MP3s of the same quality then it is all pretty shitty quality.
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Jason2357 @lemmy.ca - 12hr
75kbit OGG Vorbis is like maybe 128kb mp3, while 160kb Vorbis is indistinguishable from CD quality for most people on most equipment.
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msage @programming.dev - 12hr
But MY equipment is special
/s
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pankuleczkapl @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 13hr
75kbit???? 💀 💀 💀
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onehundredsixtynine @sh.itjust.works - 10hr
What's wrong? That's just standard audio quality.
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pankuleczkapl @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 9hr
Even YT has 128kb/s, and YouTube audio quality is the bare minimum for the majority of people not to complain
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onehundredsixtynine @sh.itjust.works - 7hr
Youtube doesn't define what's standard and what's not because it's backed by a multi-billion dollar company which could make all audio playback there 100% lossless if it wanted to.
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Aceticon @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 9hr
It's both a *Ho*, *Ho*, *Ho* and a *Yarrr* moment.
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shameless - 13hr
Damn, I'd be open to if somone could host this, I'd actually pay a monthly subscription to an individual rather than spotify
KarnaSubarna in cybersecurity @sh.itjust.works
Pirate archivist group scrapes Spotify's 300TB library, posts free torrents for downloading 86,000,000 tracks — investigation underway as music and metadata hit torrent sites
https://www.tomshardware.com/service-providers/streaming/pirate-archivist-group-scrapes-spotifys-300tb-library-posts-free-torrents-for-downloading-investigation-underway-as-music-and-metadata-hit-torrent-sitesIf they get caught, they can always say it was to train an AI model
I'd be so happy if they tried this in court and got away with it
This strategy really depends on their ability to bribe President Trump for a pardon.
Not necessarily. There is precedent, they'd just need to make a credible-enough attempt to actually do this with the data (and get the right judge/jury).
Remember what they took from us
https://qz.com/840661/what-cd-is-gone-a-eulogy-for-the-greatest-music-collection-in-the-world
This is interesting, thanks!
Don't know that I would be active enough for what.cd, but I am drawn to archiving, lossless files and comprehensive metadata.
I ripped my hundreds of CDs to FLAC and spent a good while organizing before Spotify came along with its temptations. Have started buying again on Bandcamp lately and been thinking about spinning up jellyfin.
Musicbrainz Picard + Emby/Jellyfin is a great combo. Emby servers double as navidrome servers so you can use myriad apps to listen.
News like this make me sad. I have not been able to replicate the amazing experience I had with Audiogalaxy or Soulseek. By looking for things you liked you could then search what the people who had that music also had lying around and I discovered so much great stuff that way. My taste in music is extremely eclectic but since I've been limited to Spotify, I am rarely discovering weird music anymore. Fuck corporations.
Soulseek is still alive
I know. I haven't been able to get it working, though.
If only I had a spare 300TB of storage
Fyi just to support Annas you can go and tell them how much space you have to spare and generate a few magnet links for you.
Tbh they're probably fucked now they've painted a huge target on their backs.
As opposed to before ...?
I reckon so, they were pretty low profile before and e-books and journal articles likely don't draw the same audience as a huge open library of music.
I do have access to 300tb but do I want to use it for music?
What percentage of it would be something you actually enjoyed listening to?
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Archiving/preservation is separate to consuming the content.
Precisely. This isn't for people who want to use it. This is for people who want to clone it.
Maybe 20%
Damn, I wish I could afford to buy 300TB of local data storage.
Looks like you can get refurbished 26TB drives for about £340, so 12 of those. PCIe -> 6x SATA adaptors run you about £40 each. Molex to SATA power adaptors about £5. So £4200 will let you store all that with a bit left over for postage and some duct tape to make a storage bay out of the boxes it all came in.
I'd probably want a few more drives for RAID6 and some hot spares, but if you go JBoD then at least you can just download the torrent again ;-)
Hmmmm, I need a new nas.........
Thanks Luffy and the rest of the straw hats as they fight the world government
🏴☠️"Drink up me hartys! YO-HO!"🏴☠️
kek
Does spotify already have lossless? Because fuck mp3s for archiving.
Spotify has flac for premium users. The releases are ogg.
Great, because I remember checking years before, and they still didn't have lossless. Finally they caught up.
Still won't pay.
"Relatively popular songs are stored in their original 160kbit/s OGG Vorbis quality, while the rest use 75kbit/s "
I don't know OGG files but if that is comparable to MP3s of the same quality then it is all pretty shitty quality.
75kbit OGG Vorbis is like maybe 128kb mp3, while 160kb Vorbis is indistinguishable from CD quality for most people on most equipment.
But MY equipment is special
/s
75kbit???? 💀 💀 💀
What's wrong? That's just standard audio quality.
Even YT has 128kb/s, and YouTube audio quality is the bare minimum for the majority of people not to complain
Youtube doesn't define what's standard and what's not because it's backed by a multi-billion dollar company which could make all audio playback there 100% lossless if it wanted to.
It's both a *Ho*, *Ho*, *Ho* and a *Yarrr* moment.
Damn, I'd be open to if somone could host this, I'd actually pay a monthly subscription to an individual rather than spotify
That was my first thought as well