Why? Does it make them look bad (totally unlike how they look already)?
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aarch0x40 - 2day
It is more likely that it includes accusations that are indictable and they don’t want to waste the opportunity
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Sterile_Technique @lemmy.world - 2day
That's some wishful-ass thinking. But also the best scenario, so I guess I'm all for it.
Not that we'll ever actually see legal justice - there's been plenty of evidence for it, but never a shred of enforcement. At this point our hope lies solely with vigilante justice.
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aarch0x40 - 2day
Kamala is a former California AG so I have to think that she still functions like a prosecutor. I agree that’s some wishful ass-thinking though. Democrats have been incredibly disappointing for far too long now. I’m not sure if I posted it as hopium or just a possible alternative interpretation.
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Protoknuckles @lemmy.world - 2day
Pleeeeeeease be it
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eestileib - 2day
Loooool
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UnspecificGravity - 2day
Probably reveals pretty much the opposite of what the party leadership is saying.
DNC Leaders: "We lost because we tried to bring trans and immigrants etc etc into the tent"
Reality: "We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition and abandoned any policy that might benefit marginalized people at the expense of our donors."
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PhilipTheBucket - 2day
We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition
I'm all for blaming the Democratic leadership for their dog shit ness but let's not get carried away lmao
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GraniteM @lemmy.world - 1day
Maybe not indistinguishable, but did a pretty poor job of presenting it as a real and meaningful choice. Tried to run a more or less "normal" campaign when the stakes were anything but. Didn't acknowledge the failings and frustrations that had rightly been leveled at the Biden administration. Tried to run Kamala as a "Stay the course" candidate instead of a "Not happy with how things are going? Time for change!" candidate. Didn't do a good job of being clearly FOR something of great value to the voter rather than just being defined by not being Trump.
Mind you, I'm fully in the camp of voting like your life depends on it, every chance you get, but a political party can't learn from their failures if they don't honestly acknowledge them first.
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ɔiƚoxɘup - 1day
Remember her earliest speeches? They were very progressive. Something between 2-3 speeches were and after that you could tell she was "talked to" by someone. I wonder what that conversation was like.
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UnspecificGravity - 2day
Not everyone values issues the same way you do.
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njm1314 @lemmy.world - 2day
Ken Martin, the DNC chair who previously said he would publicly release a review of the 2024 election, said in a statement that the review was complete and that the committee was “already putting our learnings into motion”.
So basically the results of the autopsy are damning to Ken Martin and his current ongoing strategy.
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kata1yst @sh.itjust.works - 1day
Ken was elected in 2025, and was seen as a reformist firebrand outsider.
He did amazing things paving the way for the modern leftist politicians in Minnesota.
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Deceptichum - 1day
I hate Ken M. more than most, but Jaime Harrison was the chair from '21 to '25.
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njm1314 @lemmy.world - 1day
Yes?
Not sure why thats relevant.
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OpenStars - 2day
The party was already implementing plans to address some of the issues raised, and releasing a retrospective report would take time and focus away from winning going forward, the official said.
There is nothing to see here, move along, move along.
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eestileib - 2day
Not another dime to the DNC.
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funkless_eck @sh.itjust.works - 1day
probably cuz it found that supporting Israel's actions in Palestine uncritically cost a lot of voters, as did not taking a stance on cannabis and student loans
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butwhyishischinabook - 1day
If the autopsy didn't conclude "we should stop ignoring what the voter base wants and doing whatever the hell we want instead," then it reached the wrong conclusions. Either the DNC got the autopsy wrong or they're ignoring their own findings.
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BigBenis @lemmy.world - 1day
Cowards
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PhilipTheBucket - 1day
I mean, if you fucked up at work and the result was an absolutely historic scale of devastation to the company as a whole because your group fucked up a critical project, would you want a public detailed report about how it all happened?
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BigBenis @lemmy.world - 1day
When I fuck up, I'm expected to own up to it and learn from my mistakes. Trying to shift blame, withhold details or otherwise bullshit people who know I fucked up tends to piss them off even more. Refusing to accept accountability for your fuck ups is a cowardly move in any context.
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TheJesusaurus @sh.itjust.works - 2day
They don't want to hear that the need to help the 350 million people that actually do everything that makes the country work instead of ignoring them and working for 2 dozen guys on wall street
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the_q @lemmy.zip - 2day
How very on brand for the Republicans.
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Optional - 2day
Well that’s some bullshit. One of you drunks leak it to the fediverse already.
PhilipTheBucket in politics @piefed.social
Democrats won’t release 2024 election loss ‘autopsy’, DNC chair says
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/18/democrats-2024-election-autopsyWhy? Does it make them look bad (totally unlike how they look already)?
It is more likely that it includes accusations that are indictable and they don’t want to waste the opportunity
That's some wishful-ass thinking. But also the best scenario, so I guess I'm all for it.
Not that we'll ever actually see legal justice - there's been plenty of evidence for it, but never a shred of enforcement. At this point our hope lies solely with vigilante justice.
Kamala is a former California AG so I have to think that she still functions like a prosecutor. I agree that’s some wishful ass-thinking though. Democrats have been incredibly disappointing for far too long now. I’m not sure if I posted it as hopium or just a possible alternative interpretation.
Pleeeeeeease be it
Loooool
Probably reveals pretty much the opposite of what the party leadership is saying.
DNC Leaders: "We lost because we tried to bring trans and immigrants etc etc into the tent"
Reality: "We lost because were were nearly indistinguishable from our opposition and abandoned any policy that might benefit marginalized people at the expense of our donors."
I'm all for blaming the Democratic leadership for their dog shit ness but let's not get carried away lmao
Maybe not indistinguishable, but did a pretty poor job of presenting it as a real and meaningful choice. Tried to run a more or less "normal" campaign when the stakes were anything but. Didn't acknowledge the failings and frustrations that had rightly been leveled at the Biden administration. Tried to run Kamala as a "Stay the course" candidate instead of a "Not happy with how things are going? Time for change!" candidate. Didn't do a good job of being clearly FOR something of great value to the voter rather than just being defined by not being Trump.
Mind you, I'm fully in the camp of voting like your life depends on it, every chance you get, but a political party can't learn from their failures if they don't honestly acknowledge them first.
Remember her earliest speeches? They were very progressive. Something between 2-3 speeches were and after that you could tell she was "talked to" by someone. I wonder what that conversation was like.
Not everyone values issues the same way you do.
So basically the results of the autopsy are damning to Ken Martin and his current ongoing strategy.
Ken was elected in 2025, and was seen as a reformist firebrand outsider.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Martin?wprov=sfla1
He did amazing things paving the way for the modern leftist politicians in Minnesota.
I hate Ken M. more than most, but Jaime Harrison was the chair from '21 to '25.
Yes?
Not sure why thats relevant.
There is nothing to see here, move along, move along.
Not another dime to the DNC.
probably cuz it found that supporting Israel's actions in Palestine uncritically cost a lot of voters, as did not taking a stance on cannabis and student loans
If the autopsy didn't conclude "we should stop ignoring what the voter base wants and doing whatever the hell we want instead," then it reached the wrong conclusions. Either the DNC got the autopsy wrong or they're ignoring their own findings.
Cowards
I mean, if you fucked up at work and the result was an absolutely historic scale of devastation to the company as a whole because your group fucked up a critical project, would you want a public detailed report about how it all happened?
When I fuck up, I'm expected to own up to it and learn from my mistakes. Trying to shift blame, withhold details or otherwise bullshit people who know I fucked up tends to piss them off even more. Refusing to accept accountability for your fuck ups is a cowardly move in any context.
They don't want to hear that the need to help the 350 million people that actually do everything that makes the country work instead of ignoring them and working for 2 dozen guys on wall street
How very on brand for the Republicans.
Well that’s some bullshit. One of you drunks leak it to the fediverse already.