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oretoise @programming.dev - 17hr

It tends to be more “I want a thing that just works.” rather than no technology, but yes.

Self-hosting services that are reliable and don’t get in my way, not using cloud-connected smart devices, running Linux instead of Windows, etc.

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tatterdemalion @programming.dev - 13hr

It's sad that self-hosting is apparently the path to having a solution that "just works". You'd think that paying for a product would be more effective, but alas...

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BeardedGingerWonder @feddit.uk - 12hr

I'm starting to realise that a big part of why self hosting works is the customisability of it. There's no financial incentive for Google or whomever to make sure process A has an interface to talk to process B because it's a minority use case in their clientbase.

Self hosting - either someone has already had the same issue and made a plugin or I can create a shim of some description to make the two things talk to each other that wouldn't be practical at scale.

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baines @lemmy.cafe - 2hr

i just want away from tech bro leadership and want star treck instead

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DoctorPress @lemmy.zip - 5hr

Linux is not "just works". I don't care about your experience if you are not willing to ship your device to me.

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Gust - 16hr

https://media.piefed.social/posts/hI/Rt/hIRttMVZmWh0U3G.jpg

Was working on a PhD in CS focused on industrial cybersecurity, though current events involving the three letter agency that funded my research lead to me crashing out and now I'm trying to get into law school and do immigration law. Far too frail and pasty to buy a farm though

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Jayjader @jlai.lu - 11hr

Good luck with getting into law school!

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antonymous_bosch69 - 4hr

Haven’t owned a printer in well over a decade. Fuck printers.

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flambonkscious @sh.itjust.works - 13hr

Holy shit, gaoibg from farming programmers to geese? That's an escalation, for sure

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gramie @lemmy.ca - 11hr

The Pulitzer Prize-winning book The Soul of a New Machine, chronicling the development of Data General's Eagle computer in the 1970s, one of the characters is a microcode developer, responsible for hardwired logic that runs the CPU.

Part of his job is managing electrical impulses that last for microseconds or nanoseconds. One day, the team comes in to find his workstation abandoned, with a note on the monitor saying that he is going to join a commune in Vermont, and never dealing with a unit of time smaller than a season again.

The tech may be ancient for us, but it's a superb book.

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[object Object] - 34min

Reminiscent of how Brian Eno spoke on creating the startup sound for Windows 95:

The thing from the agency said, "We want a piece of music that is inspiring, universal, blah-blah, da-da-da, optimistic, futuristic, sentimental, emotional," this whole list of adjectives, and then at the bottom it said "and it must be 3¼ seconds long."

I thought this was so funny and an amazing thought to actually try to make a little piece of music. It's like making a tiny little jewel.

In fact, I made eighty-four pieces. I got completely into this world of tiny, tiny little pieces of music. I was so sensitive to microseconds at the end of this that it really broke a logjam in my own work. Then when I'd finished that and I went back to working with pieces that were like three minutes long, it seemed like oceans of time.

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LumpyPancakes - 17hr

Well, it's driven me to Debian.

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NaibofTabr - 16hr

The tech worker pipeline:

help desk > sysadmin > CISO > goat farmer

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Console_Modder @sh.itjust.works - 17hr

Nah. I can understand why someone would think that way, but the more I work with tech the more I want to mod or jailbreak my own stuff so it doesn't suck

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Ookami38 @sh.itjust.works - 13hr

Honestly it's just the Internet. Tech is fucking awesome, as long as it's decoupled from anything and anyone else trying to control, monitor, impose, or otherwise fuck with the tech that's mine, bought or built fairly. And also the untold psychological torture the Internet is just constantly inflicting on us.

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Sabata - 8hr

I prefer cabin in the woods, but my paycheck says small house in a shitty neighborhood.

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chiliedogg @lemmy.world - 7hr

Actually, that cabin may be cheaper. Property is way more expensive in dense areas.

A major reason lots of people move to the country in retirement is because the land is cheaper and.they end up with a bigger house and more land for less than they were paying before because it's cheaper land with lower property tax.

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partial_accumen - 7hr

As a long time tech user within about 5 years of retirement, I don't quite agree with this for a couple of reasons. Tech is fine if its tech that serves me. I'm certainly not going to be doing JIRA updates in retirement, but I'll absolutely use a web browser, word processor, and probably a coding environment for my own personal projects. Retrocomputing is much more appealing to me too.

Also, I think most folks in IT have no idea how hard farming actually is, both mental and physically. Farming is really hard work, and having to manage some of the same annoying things we deal with in IT such as following complicated regulations, dealing with asinine people in power over you, and delivery dates.

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bastion @feddit.nl - 4hr

grass is always greener on the other side. ..but, sometimes, it actually is, depending on who you are.

In my case, the forest was, and still is, the greener side. can't really complain, and I don't think I'll be switching back to tech anytime soon.

Can confirm, though, a lot of people approach farming or homesteading with really unreasonable expectations.

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mech @feddit.org - 16hr

There's different types of people in tech.
Some of my colleagues have elaborate home labs built from hardware discarded at work, and when there's kitty litter on the floor, their cleaning robot sends an email to the fridge to buy a new pack.
I have one laptop running Slackware, a vegetable garden, and I've actually considered buying a goat.

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dwzap @lemmy.world - 11hr

Can confirm. I’ve been working in tech for 16 years. I now own a house in the forest.

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antonymous_bosch69 - 4hr

Joke’s on me, I will never earn enough money to afford a house in the forest.

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Mk23simp - 4hr

Nah, I like PC gaming too much to want that. What I want is to be free of capitalism.

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Sine_Fine_Belli @lemmy.world - 3hr

Yeah, same here honestly. I too wish to be free of avarice

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DJKJuicy @sh.itjust.works - 8hr

Yes and no. Just like John Wick still had his hitman tools hidden in his house, tech workers who say they want to buy a farm and be a luddite will not be able to resist having a hidden server closet in their farmhouse.

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Hule @lemmy.world - 8hr

I present to you: Home Assistant on the whole farm!

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bastion @feddit.nl - 4hr

living this. although, more, a homestead.

Homeassistant keeps my water pump from freezing!

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Hule @lemmy.world - 3hr

I hope to get some irrigation lines automated in the spring.

The animals would benefit from some humidity control.

Hmm, feeder and a pen door for my ducks!

There is no end to this!

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vortexsurfer @lemmy.world - 5hr

(Tech worker here, hoping to move to the countryside next year.)

Absolutely. I probably wouldn't be doing any farming, except grow some vegetables for my own needs. But I would definitely build my own awesome local infrastructure with a server room and network cables in the walls and all that good stuff. When I retire and don't have to spend 8-10 hours a day in front of a computer at work, it'll probably be enjoyable and satisfying again to work on and maintain my own computers and stuff. Currently I rarely have the motivation or energy to do that.

And if the house is large enough I'd also make certain areas/rooms completely tech free. Like maybe a small library with only books and comfy chairs, and no wifi signal.

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Boomer Humor Doomergod - 56min

I've lived in the countryside with a bunch of tech in my basement and it was still better than living in the suburbs

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bassgirl09 @lemmy.world - 9hr

I can confirm. I learned real quick in college working a part-time help desk job for the University that I attended that I under no circumstances want to work in IT at any level or program because they are both thankless and stressful career paths -- when tech works, then why do we need you and when it breaks, why do we have you is all the "leaders" ask in many companies because they do not have a basic understanding how any of the IT systems function, hardware lifecycles, etc.

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Jayjader @jlai.lu - 11hr

Can confirm, though it's mostly because tech workers are so de-politicized that they don't realize they would have the power to change things if they acted collectively -- so they do the "next best" thing, remove themselves from the equation.

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Salvo @aussie.zone - 16hr

I work in automotive.

My livelihood depends on people crashing their cars because they are idiots.

People not servicing their cars is also a great money spinner because parts sales lost to missed services are made up by parts sales from breakdowns due to lack or servicing.

I wish people would service their cars regularly, drive safely and not be idiots.

ADAS is also zero-sum because drivers with ADAS are more complainant and just as likely to crash. ADAS just creates more idiotic idiots. (Advanced Driver Assistance Systems).

I work in Automotive because I didn’t want to work in Tech anymore.

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Onomatopoeia @lemmy.cafe - 15hr

Nope.

Grew up having a huge garden (~1 acre) to help feed us all. Last thing I want to do is farm later in life, fuck that.

I'll keep a small garden, but keeping any animals is right the fuck out. I know first hand how much effort it all is.

Tech is fine - in the end it's like any other work... You're a salesman for your field, regardless of what it is. Plumbers have to educate every customer, because most people know fuck all about plumbing.

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lauha @lemmy.world - 12hr

The post didn't mention a farm, eh?

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lauha @lemmy.world - 3hr

I'm actually illiterate, thank you very much.

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Bytemeister @lemmy.world - 9hr

Confirmed, although I've been looking a a live-aboard yacht instead of a micro farm. (not rich, but the housing market is so crazy that these things are in the realm of being cheaper than my house)

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forkDestroyer @infosec.pub - 12hr

I regret to inform you that salaries in tech are not as glorious as I thought they'd be. I'd be surprised to have enough to own a farm any time soon.

Would be nice to be able to afford a house, though.

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Pringles @sopuli.xyz - 11hr

I plan to open a bar when I stop working in tech. The farm life is not for me, but I love the atmosphere of a good bar.

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Mika - 13hr

Not really. But the more you understand tech, the less you like the high tech market solutions and have the urge to have the same but in opensource.

I kinda dream that one day setups for mid-power home AI racks would be affordable enough to drop all the proprietary AIs and start automating my daily routines with agents & helping me build my local knowledge vector database with AI embeddings. No way in hell I'm exposing anything like that to thirdparties.

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Rozaŭtuno - 17hr

The Stardew Valley pipeline is real.

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MDCCCLV @lemmy.ca - 15hr

People when they realize the smell

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mastertigurius @lemmy.world - 14hr

Harboured a lifelong passion for computers. Having it as my job for 13 years made me lose much of that passion. To the young'uns: if you love something, consider whether you want to separate between what you do to pay for food and bills, and what makes you heart shine.

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billwashere - 5hr

In IT for over 30 years… 💯 %

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I Cast Fist - 10hr

I'll only want to keep a computer around to play some games, but I really wouldn't mind ditching that for boardgames with actual people.

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WanderingThoughts @europe.pub - 13hr

It's not just tech workers. More people are going back to retro tech. Physical media instead of streaming, one device one function no internet, that kind of thing.

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mitchty @lemmy.sdf.org - 2hr

I grew up on a farm, hell no. If you think farming is going to be any different you’re delusional. It’s also full of physical labor that takes a toll on you.

But give it a go if you want just don’t think farming or ranching is simpler it’s not. And now you alone take on the responsibility of managing many lives be they plants or animals.

Yes it’s rewarding keeping a baby calf alive in -30 weather but be prepared to wake up every couple hours to keep watch on the animals. Also say goodbye to vacations. Without a family member or 5 to help out it’s hard to take a vacation without worrying that coyotes got into the chicken coop or other shenanigans.

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potpotato @lemmy.world - 54min

These people are “farming” in retirement, not for a living. Basically have a bunch of ducks and a couple mule.

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dragnucs @lemmy.ml - 7hr

Everyone, in tech, from different cultures, different backgrounds, will have this urge, myself included. Had this discussion many times with different coworkers.

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SeductiveTortoise - 16hr

100%. I just talked about buying a farm to my colleagues yesterday, and I'm not making this up.

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ObtuseDoorFrame @lemmy.zip - 9hr

Weird choice of pic for this post. That's a mountain lake. Terrible place for a farm, even if one was for sale and you could afford it.

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mrgoosmoos @lemmy.ca - 9hr

it's a tree farm

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ObtuseDoorFrame @lemmy.zip - 9hr

...terrible place for a tree farm.

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_stranger_ @lemmy.world - 8hr

fish farm?

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Hule @lemmy.world - 8hr

Goats?

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mrgoosmoos @lemmy.ca - 9hr

he's cutting down the old growth

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ɔiƚoxɘup - 5hr

Can confirm 100.42%

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Phegan @lemmy.world - 3hr

I dream of quitting my job owning a game every day. Been in tech for 20 years. Would likely still have a gaming rig, but if I could never work on software again, and could sustain myself and my family, I would take that in a heart beat.

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renlok @lemmy.world - 11hr

I don't even work in tech but I want this more and more each, I blame it on society getter consistently worse each year.

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BilSabab @lemmy.world - 38min

It was a thing in Ukraine during the 2020-2021 boom. the sheer amount of engineers who saved up enough money to buy a house in the nearby village communities before the 2022 invasion was legit insane. part of that was remote work, part of that was interest in growing your own things. i remember talking to one NLP engineer who legit planned an apple garden and wanted to transition into that business domain over time. in some other cases, folks wanted to have self-reliant sustainability (yeah, we kinda had doomsday preppers).

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thefluffiest @feddit.nl - 16hr

Yep, absolutely

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paequ2 @lemmy.today - 16hr

YES

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AlecSadler - 16hr

Confirmed.

I'm halfway there having a farm but still required to have a tech job to sustain life.

Hoping to retire in 3-4 years though and after that I'm getting say in to growing my own food.

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mavu @discuss.tchncs.de - 9hr

True. I am eyeing woodworking more every day.

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Zink @programming.dev - 8hr

Go for it.

I got heavy into carpentry this year because another one of my hobbies involved a bunch of construction.

Working with wood is satisfying as hell. So is building the exact thing you need that isn't a product sold anywhere.

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Trainguyrom @reddthat.com - 7hr

When I started my career in IT I consciously started keeping a variety of backup careers in mind, and I intentionally keep my expenses where I could simply swap careers and make it all work financially.

Probably my most viable backup plan is to move into banking or finance. Decent money available there, still tickles the part of my brain that loves understanding numbers and processes while also working my brain entirely differently than troubleshooting network problems. Data science, HIT and HRIT are also options in considering if I want to stay in the realm of IT, but that depends on how burnt out I get really

In my personal life I've been picking up more off-screen hobbies to help stave off burnout among other reasons. I'm hoping career-wise I can promote myself into management before I get too burnt out, but you never know

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TankovayaDiviziya @lemmy.world - 12hr

Tech workers is like the majority of fediverse. You won't run out of people to ask.

Edit: A friend of mine working in IT mentioned that his ex-boss retired and then became a children's book writer. If financial constraint isn't an issue, I would be a polymath and travel to learn more about the world. That was actually the point of education is to be a more well rounded person.

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gandalf_der_12te @discuss.tchncs.de - 11hr

ngl, i thought about becoming a farmer, but i value living in a society above living on a farm, though both are actually important to me.

the thing is to be a farmer in today's economy is close to impossible, and also i lack experience and equipment.

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iegod - 7hr

Fuck no.

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Garland - 7hr

True for me.

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0oWow @lemmy.world - 3hr

Especially when having to deal with Microsoft.

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Taleya @aussie.zone - 2hr

Lie.

It's the fucking users i want away from

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Alph4d0g @discuss.tchncs.de - 1hr

Agree with the sentiment. Solar and print farms might be part of the picture though.

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notsosure @sh.itjust.works - 14hr

No, I really can’t.

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Clent @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6hr

Neither can I.

If I wanted to live on a farm, I wouldn't need to move more than a few miles.

But why would I want to change to a career that does not generate income and requires I work every single day all day?

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Victor - 8hr

I think it has more to do with maturing with age rather than the tech itself. At least in my case. And I don't really want a farm. But living in the wild is pretty cool and calming.

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ashughes @feddit.uk - 13hr

Can confirm.

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Ardyssian @sh.itjust.works - 8hr

Somewhat - I still have a softspot for my ROG Ally and IPad for reading, but yes I would like to have the option of engaging in tech when I want and not be forced to because of survival

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dependencyinjection @discuss.tchncs.de - 12hr

I work in tech and long for something like this, sadly I got in very late in life and will never earn enough. I could change companies to max my earnings but honestly where I work now is 33 hours a week and incredibly flexible and manage my neurodivergence very well.

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RacerX @lemmy.zip - 10hr

Not a farm, but I'd like to open a coffee shop or bistro type place someday. The kind of place where people in my neighborhood can meet up to chat and grab a really good sandwich, not just stare at their laptops.

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lapislazuli - 12hr

buy the farm Slang

  • To die, especially suddenly or violently.

Yeah, sure, I guess...

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BeardededSquidward - 3hr

I don't want any sort of device or appliance in my home that requires an internet connection that doesn't get a long time of security updates. My old printer died and they're so bad now I just don't have one. I'm going back to a dumb flip phone because this one's battery s dying. I use everything I can without spending money because I've never had a lot to spend to try and maintain my privacy. I keep spam email for the random site that wants you to enter one. The IoT is cancerous, it creates huge security holes because these appliance manufacturers don't care about security one iota. I have worked in IT for 15 years professionally with over that personal experience. I hate what the internet has become, I want something more akin to the 2000s back or at least the scrubbing of corporate mandates cut out. It's actually more dangerous to be on it because of advertisements. I would still have internet and gaming PCs regardless, but I want tech that's basic and functional.

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bridgeenjoyer @sh.itjust.works - 1hr

I print at the library. Far better.

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presoak @lazysoci.al - 4hr

Sitting in that office I literally felt my life ending. I contemplated all the ways it could be better. Carcrash. Fire. Get superhigh and destroy.

Otoh, I love my projects deeply.

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mrmanager @lemmy.today - 2hr

Yeah. But I think most of us would only last 2 days on a farm, and then come screaming back to comfortable office life.

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leds @feddit.dk - 12hr

Can confirm , bought farm. No sewage , no water. (But fibre internet)

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Shanmugha @lemmy.world - 45min

Definitely not everyone :) I am bad at agriculture, even worse at raising animals, so computer it is for quite a long while from now. But I would really appreciate an opportunity to just sit by the sea and stare at it for days on end

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[鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] - 3hr

Stardew Valley in a nutshell

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🏴حمید پیام عباسی🏴 - 11hr

Nah, I just want to retire not live on a farm. The last place I'd ever want to live on this earth is a rural community, I've tried. It is terrible.

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Alaknár - 7hr

Meh.

If you're in a toxic workplace, sure. If you're in a workplace that lets you have fun with your work, learn, discover new things and tinker - the 9000th day is exactly as exciting as the 9th day on the job.

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Diplomjodler - 12hr

Absolutely not. Farming isn't anywhere as romantic as those city slickers think. I'd certainly like to get off the hamster wheel but shovelling manure isn't anywhere on the list if things I'd rather do instead.

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dependencyinjection @discuss.tchncs.de - 12hr

This doesn’t say farming, it says get buy a farm.

Sure it would suck if you’re farming to sell the goods, but if you just want some land and some animals for yourself, much more manageable.

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Alphonsus @lemmy.world - 26min

It amuse me how people in Tech always say funny things about Tech 🤭🤭🤭

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Ginny [they/she] - 13hr

I have worked in tech since 2011 and I'm definitely looking for a way out. Don't think I'm cut out for farming though.

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Korhaka @sopuli.xyz - 11hr

Farm? I would take a single acre of overgrown wasteland on a former landfill if it was a legal option to live there.

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WIZARD POPE💫 - 11hr

Uhm,, why landfill??

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Korhaka @sopuli.xyz - 9hr

Desperation for anything else.

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WIZARD POPE💫 - 9hr

Ahh I seem to have missed that undertone

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deadymouse @lemmy.world - 10hr

I used to think of the internet as a place where I was likely to find people with the same tastes as me, and not just friends, but as soon as I started to understand what telemetry is and that it can't be completely avoided, and every year things only get more dystopian, I often think about buying or building a forest house.

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harambe69 @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 7hr

Goose farmer

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olenkoVD @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 7hr

neofetch guy can confirm

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beeng @discuss.tchncs.de - 2hr

Yes but I'll still have a Linux thinkpad on the farm

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titanicx @lemmy.zip - 2hr

I disagree. 20 plus years in tech. Never wanted a farm, and I still love tech.

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FinjaminPoach @lemmy.world - 17min

A tech job to fund a pivot into ranching sounds like a fun plan

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SnarkoPolo @lemmy.world - 14min

I'm retiring from an IT position with a public college at the end of the month. I sure AF don't plan on doing any programming for shits 'n' giggles.

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