advertisers can say anything, but your content must follow the rules
edit: you to your
TabbsTheBat (they/them) - 7day
I have gotten actual unabashed, uncensored, pornography as ads on youtube, meanwhile content creators have to juggle not saying "fuck" too much cause otherwise it's adult content and they can't get paid, but they also have to say it enough times for it not to be kids content which also means they can't get paid
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JackbyDev - 7day
On TikTok I've seen an ad showing literal penis in vagina. But people have to say "unalive."
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Taleya @aussie.zone - 7day
Tumblr won't allow "female presenting breasts" but will serve me an ad showing naked pussy lips.
I'm not kidding. I got ad with exposed labia. And when I posted it as a screenshot they community violated me.
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gegil @sopuli.xyz - 7day
Its not only ads on social media sites, but on the web in general. I recently used some old unused phone that i had in my house to test something, and i went browsing some websites in chrome, without adblock set up. And there was a lot of in every way bad ads, including pornographic ads, and they were shown on normal, unrelated to all of that websites.
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bigchungus - 6day
Were the pussy lips also female-presenting?
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TheRealKuni - 6day
That’s doubleplus ungood.
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HasturInYellow @lemmy.world - 7day
It is evolving in the direction that eventually ONLY companies will be people. ONLY companies will have rights.
We must dissolve every single one of them and burn their boards as an offering to the gods of nature. I am begging all of you. Look inside yourselves and help me.
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merc @sh.itjust.works - 6day
I'm pretty sure that those ads are also against the rules and that any advertiser they catch doing that gets their account suspended or terminated.
The thing is, advertisers like this don't care about their accounts. It's not like they have followers they'll lose if they lose access to their account. Lose an account? Just make a new one and try to sneak another ad through the system. Meanwhile for a content creator, if they lose an account they lose all their followers, all their videos, etc.
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SomeRandomNoob @discuss.tchncs.de - 7day
Youtube has ads? ;)
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hOrni @lemmy.world - 7day
Once in a while, You use someone else's device, go on YouTube and see 2 minutes of ads before a video and wonder "how can somebody live like this?"
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CentipedeFarrier - 6day
Technically my device does that, but I found out that if I open videos in a defunct old browser (probably not a necessary component, just the one I use) that randomizes fingerprint information, if you long-press the video name and open in a new private tab (so new randomized fingerprint) it treats you for that one video as a new user.
So just have to open each video I want to watch in a new private tab, and good to go, no ads ever. Yes this is a lot of work, but I’m not aware of other options on iOS. On my desktop I use freetube.
I’m sure they will change this soon, but I’ll just stop using YouTube then. I’ve been full-on blocking sites through pihole that have started self-hosting their ad content, or where blocking the ad content breaks the page like IMDb. idgaf. I won’t use your site.
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hoppolito @mander.xyz - 5day
On ios I use Unwatched and it is fantastic, almost as good as tubular, freetube et al on other platforms. It allows you to curate a nice upcoming ‘diet’ of just the videos you intentionally want to watch, nothing else.
Don’t know how long it will survive on the AppStore but it’s been there for a little while now.
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LH0ezVT @sh.itjust.works - 6day
I am always amazed how people know that adblock exists, is literally one click away, even have it installed in another browser and the like, but still choose to use the shitty app or chrome with all the ads. And then get annoyed when there are more ads than content.
I just don't understand it. Really. Why? That is like punching yourself in the dick and then complaining that it hurts.
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minimum @mander.xyz - 6day
Inertia mostly, people are lazy. If they're family or friends, install uBlock origin for them and they'll probably thank you. You can, as an alternative, ask them to use brave browser instead (after disabling the annoyances), it's chromium-based so the functionality is identical plus it blocks ads.
If it's android, they'll mostly use the app. If you want to get them to use NewPipe or Grayjay, tell them it can play audio when you close the app without having to pay for YouTube premium (yes that's a thing)
If they're not friends or family, forget about it. You can give a light suggestion I guess.
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LH0ezVT @sh.itjust.works - 6day
They literally have firefox with ublock origin installed (which I installed) and still choose to use chrome - and then complain about the fucking ads
I've been gently saying hey, if you hate so it so much, you know there is another browser with adblock right next to it? But so far, no results.
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Ygest Wefsid - 6day
"ads are based on your activity" they say. I like biology and I am frequently engaging in biology related topics on the internet, yet they keep spamming me with gambling ads, israel army recruitment ads (yes these are a thing!), and occasionally the hot girl mobile games, all ads I literally did not ask for. Everything is thrown at me, most being harmful and completely unrelated to my interests, except biology.
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UltraMagnus0001 - 6day
Use adnauseam, sponsorblock on Firefox.
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titanicx @lemmy.zip - 6day
I only watch YouTube on my TV and rarely on my phone and never on my computer.
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UltraMagnus0001 - 6day
Use Smartube if possible, but that's only on android TV. Maybe someone knows alternatives for TV apps. I remember webos had some kind of hack, but I'm not sure if it works anymore. Smartube is better than paid YouTube TV which is sad.
revanced for your phone, since there's already a recommendation for ur tv.
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regdog @lemmy.world - 6day
Why are you not using adblock?
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DoomProphet @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
Because there isn't a biological adblocker yet.
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paris - 6day
Sanity check: are you sure you didn't turn off ad personalization at some point and these are just the standard issue ads that get shown to most people?
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mika_mika @lemmy.world - 6day
I know this sounds crazy but I'm pretty sure those that go through the effort of blocking personalized ads are statistically higher to be consumers of anime thirst traps and gambling if ever interacting with them.
My accounts that have tracking enabled I get "normal" ads but if I have any kind of privacy on the device it defaults to enticing the lowest common denominator. Which makes sense from an engagement standpoint.
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Ygest Wefsid - 6day
Personalized ads are turned on.
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hOrni @lemmy.world - 7day
An ad about what? Is this real? Creators of true crime documentaries can't say "rape" or "murder" for fear of being demonetized but they show ads like this?
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CoolCat @lemmy.world - 6day
I have had rapey-AI ads in youtube before. I even took a screenshot.
That doesn't seem like a photo that would break any rules. It's suggestive, but nothing worse than that.
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Confused_Emus @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
That isn't the point, though. The absurdity here is that content creators have to censor their language to such an absurd degree so as not to offend advertisers, but then the platform itself can just turn around and post borderline soft-core porn. It's just more hypocrisy from those "Think of the Children!" pearl-clutchers.
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merc @sh.itjust.works - 6day
You seem to believe that the platform is intentionally posting soft-core porn.
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Confused_Emus @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
You seem to be trying to stir up some sort of argument. It’s an obvious example of double standards. I don’t know what else to tell you.
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merc @sh.itjust.works - 6day
How so? Do advertisers not get suspended or banned if they post soft-core porn?
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TotallynotJessica - 7day
Yup
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🍉 Albert 🍉 - 6day
some ads are borderline hentai games
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Soulg @ani.social - 6day
I'm willing to bet this isn't actually what the ad was about
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stray @pawb.social - 7day
I watched a YouTube ad once that was almost a full-length reading of a porn comic wherein a teenage boy is helping his stepmother move into his home, and he's like "Why does she have so many vegetables??" (Boxes of phallic produce.) It only ended right before they actually fucked.
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Bytemeister @lemmy.world - 5day
Oh yeah. I got that one. While I was on break... At work... Listening to a nice guy make traditional candies from across the break room while I made some coffee.
Really lucky it was in the middle of COVID and I was the only person in the office.
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TheEighthDoctor @lemmy.zip - 7day
Since SmartTube was compromised I uninstalled it and factory reset my tv, then I tried the official YouTube app. I didn't even finish one video before installing ST again. I rather have hackers than ads.
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Dave2 - 7day
Is smarttube like revanced ext?
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wizardbeard @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
Revanced extended folded back into revanced last I heard. But yeah, Smarttube is kind of like that for Android TV boxes/dongles.
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Dave2 - 6day
um what do you mean by "folded back"?
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wizardbeard @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
Revanced Extended was created by someone who was contributing to the main Revanced project. It was made as a test bed for new patches and a place for some patches they didn't think would get accepted into the main Revanced project. That's where it branched off.
After a while they stopped maintaining their own Revanced Extended patch manager separate from Revanced and just had users point Revanced Manager at their Revanced Extended patches in order to use Extended.
Then a little while later they after that they got most of their patches into the main Revanced project (folded back into the main thing).
They then stopped maintaining Revanced Extended as a separate thing, but they still contribute to the main revanced project.
Granted, this is all info that's a few years old. Might be out of date or misremembering things.
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cassandrafatigue @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6day
Also the ads might include malware code! Who knows!
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LiveLM - 6day
There's also TizenTube Cobalt, but since it's based on the official YouTube app it ends up being sloooooooow compared to SmartTube...
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Cevilia (she/they/…) - 6day
I've trained the algorithm that I don't tolerate ads.
I rarely see ads on YouTube. I use FreeTube and yt-dlp pretty much exclusively for my YouTube viewing. I only see ads when I watch YouTube on my TV, and even then, only rarely. As soon as it shows me an ad, I close out of YouTube. Not skip ad, not go back, I close YouTube. I switch to audiobooks instead.
The algorithm wants to increase watch time, the only way it can do that is to not show me ads, so that's what it does. It's surprising how well it works.
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DanVctr @sh.itjust.works - 6day
**It's learning... **
But for real, after you explained what's going on it makes perfect sense, I'm just suprised that "amount of ads delivered" is a watch time metric that the algo "optimizes" for.
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QuinnyCoded @sh.itjust.works - 6day
does pihole work for the TV?
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Cevilia (she/they/…) - 6day
Not as far as I know, there's no way to set custom DNS that I've found.
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nagaram @startrek.website - 5day
I thought the point of the pihole was to route all DNS traffic through it on your network?
Note: I've never set up a pihole so this is ass talk
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Bytemeister @lemmy.world - 5day
Part of setting up the Pihole is adjusting your router (or individual devices) to use the Pihole for DNS, but devices can use their own settings, so a smart TV with 8.8.8.8 hard coded as it's DNS would not be affected by Pihole blocking.
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chiliedogg @lemmy.world - 6day
My favorite but of specific criticism was how they demonetized firearm-related channels because advertisers didn't want to be associated with guns, but they didn't stop running ads on those channels.
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skisnow @lemmy.ca - 6day
Did they remove channel blocking recently? Something very undesirable appeared on my recommendations this week, and when I went to the channel to block it it the button wasn’t there, and worse still me going to the channel auto played more of its shit. So now YouTube think I want more.
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Zorsith - 6day
I think so. They're also starting to shift the "my subscriptions" button.
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Dogiedog64 - 5day
You joke but YouTube unironically shows ads like that. And more often than not, they're AI generated copyright theft, too.
It wasn't a joke, it's just funny commentary on how twisted the advertising logic is
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captainlezbian @lemmy.world - 5day
Wtf‽
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maria [she/her] - 6day
current day youtube reminds me of current day nintendo switch eshop. (its also full of adult anime games - largely with neural-network-generated images)
TotallynotJessica in onehundredninetysix
advertisers can say anything, but your content must follow the rules
edit: you to your
I have gotten actual unabashed, uncensored, pornography as ads on youtube, meanwhile content creators have to juggle not saying "fuck" too much cause otherwise it's adult content and they can't get paid, but they also have to say it enough times for it not to be kids content which also means they can't get paid
On TikTok I've seen an ad showing literal penis in vagina. But people have to say "unalive."
Tumblr won't allow "female presenting breasts" but will serve me an ad showing naked pussy lips.
I'm not kidding. I got ad with exposed labia. And when I posted it as a screenshot they community violated me.
Its not only ads on social media sites, but on the web in general. I recently used some old unused phone that i had in my house to test something, and i went browsing some websites in chrome, without adblock set up. And there was a lot of in every way bad ads, including pornographic ads, and they were shown on normal, unrelated to all of that websites.
Were the pussy lips also female-presenting?
That’s doubleplus ungood.
It is evolving in the direction that eventually ONLY companies will be people. ONLY companies will have rights.
We must dissolve every single one of them and burn their boards as an offering to the gods of nature. I am begging all of you. Look inside yourselves and help me.
I'm pretty sure that those ads are also against the rules and that any advertiser they catch doing that gets their account suspended or terminated.
The thing is, advertisers like this don't care about their accounts. It's not like they have followers they'll lose if they lose access to their account. Lose an account? Just make a new one and try to sneak another ad through the system. Meanwhile for a content creator, if they lose an account they lose all their followers, all their videos, etc.
Youtube has ads? ;)
Once in a while, You use someone else's device, go on YouTube and see 2 minutes of ads before a video and wonder "how can somebody live like this?"
Technically my device does that, but I found out that if I open videos in a defunct old browser (probably not a necessary component, just the one I use) that randomizes fingerprint information, if you long-press the video name and open in a new private tab (so new randomized fingerprint) it treats you for that one video as a new user.
So just have to open each video I want to watch in a new private tab, and good to go, no ads ever. Yes this is a lot of work, but I’m not aware of other options on iOS. On my desktop I use freetube.
I’m sure they will change this soon, but I’ll just stop using YouTube then. I’ve been full-on blocking sites through pihole that have started self-hosting their ad content, or where blocking the ad content breaks the page like IMDb. idgaf. I won’t use your site.
On ios I use Unwatched and it is fantastic, almost as good as tubular, freetube et al on other platforms. It allows you to curate a nice upcoming ‘diet’ of just the videos you intentionally want to watch, nothing else.
Don’t know how long it will survive on the AppStore but it’s been there for a little while now.
I am always amazed how people know that adblock exists, is literally one click away, even have it installed in another browser and the like, but still choose to use the shitty app or chrome with all the ads. And then get annoyed when there are more ads than content.
I just don't understand it. Really. Why? That is like punching yourself in the dick and then complaining that it hurts.
Inertia mostly, people are lazy. If they're family or friends, install uBlock origin for them and they'll probably thank you. You can, as an alternative, ask them to use brave browser instead (after disabling the annoyances), it's chromium-based so the functionality is identical plus it blocks ads.
If it's android, they'll mostly use the app. If you want to get them to use NewPipe or Grayjay, tell them it can play audio when you close the app without having to pay for YouTube premium (yes that's a thing)
If they're not friends or family, forget about it. You can give a light suggestion I guess.
They literally have firefox with ublock origin installed (which I installed) and still choose to use chrome - and then complain about the fucking ads
I've been gently saying hey, if you hate so it so much, you know there is another browser with adblock right next to it? But so far, no results.
"ads are based on your activity" they say. I like biology and I am frequently engaging in biology related topics on the internet, yet they keep spamming me with gambling ads, israel army recruitment ads (yes these are a thing!), and occasionally the hot girl mobile games, all ads I literally did not ask for. Everything is thrown at me, most being harmful and completely unrelated to my interests, except biology.
Use adnauseam, sponsorblock on Firefox.
I only watch YouTube on my TV and rarely on my phone and never on my computer.
Use Smartube if possible, but that's only on android TV. Maybe someone knows alternatives for TV apps. I remember webos had some kind of hack, but I'm not sure if it works anymore. Smartube is better than paid YouTube TV which is sad.
Yea, I don't think fire TV has much for that.
Fire TV is android
How to install Smartube on firetv
Use the official smarttube site
revanced for your phone, since there's already a recommendation for ur tv.
Why are you not using adblock?
Because there isn't a biological adblocker yet.
Sanity check: are you sure you didn't turn off ad personalization at some point and these are just the standard issue ads that get shown to most people?
I know this sounds crazy but I'm pretty sure those that go through the effort of blocking personalized ads are statistically higher to be consumers of anime thirst traps and gambling if ever interacting with them.
My accounts that have tracking enabled I get "normal" ads but if I have any kind of privacy on the device it defaults to enticing the lowest common denominator. Which makes sense from an engagement standpoint.
Personalized ads are turned on.
An ad about what? Is this real? Creators of true crime documentaries can't say "rape" or "murder" for fear of being demonetized but they show ads like this?
I have had rapey-AI ads in youtube before. I even took a screenshot.
-::: spoiler Rapey AI ad https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8f7928fb-9adf-4d0c-925c-fce849621e68.jpeg :::
Took this screenshot of an ad directly from the YouTube app:
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/pictrs/image/bec5f702-a231-4a89-9df6-54a7f9cf5e6f.webp :::
That doesn't seem like a photo that would break any rules. It's suggestive, but nothing worse than that.
That isn't the point, though. The absurdity here is that content creators have to censor their language to such an absurd degree so as not to offend advertisers, but then the platform itself can just turn around and post borderline soft-core porn. It's just more hypocrisy from those "Think of the Children!" pearl-clutchers.
You seem to believe that the platform is intentionally posting soft-core porn.
You seem to be trying to stir up some sort of argument. It’s an obvious example of double standards. I don’t know what else to tell you.
How so? Do advertisers not get suspended or banned if they post soft-core porn?
Yup
some ads are borderline hentai games
I'm willing to bet this isn't actually what the ad was about
I watched a YouTube ad once that was almost a full-length reading of a porn comic wherein a teenage boy is helping his stepmother move into his home, and he's like "Why does she have so many vegetables??" (Boxes of phallic produce.) It only ended right before they actually fucked.
Oh yeah. I got that one. While I was on break... At work... Listening to a nice guy make traditional candies from across the break room while I made some coffee.
Really lucky it was in the middle of COVID and I was the only person in the office.
Since SmartTube was compromised I uninstalled it and factory reset my tv, then I tried the official YouTube app. I didn't even finish one video before installing ST again. I rather have hackers than ads.
Is smarttube like revanced ext?
Revanced extended folded back into revanced last I heard. But yeah, Smarttube is kind of like that for Android TV boxes/dongles.
um what do you mean by "folded back"?
Revanced Extended was created by someone who was contributing to the main Revanced project. It was made as a test bed for new patches and a place for some patches they didn't think would get accepted into the main Revanced project. That's where it branched off.
After a while they stopped maintaining their own Revanced Extended patch manager separate from Revanced and just had users point Revanced Manager at their Revanced Extended patches in order to use Extended.
Then a little while later they after that they got most of their patches into the main Revanced project (folded back into the main thing).
They then stopped maintaining Revanced Extended as a separate thing, but they still contribute to the main revanced project.
Granted, this is all info that's a few years old. Might be out of date or misremembering things.
Also the ads might include malware code! Who knows!
There's also TizenTube Cobalt, but since it's based on the official YouTube app it ends up being sloooooooow compared to SmartTube...
I've trained the algorithm that I don't tolerate ads.
I rarely see ads on YouTube. I use FreeTube and yt-dlp pretty much exclusively for my YouTube viewing. I only see ads when I watch YouTube on my TV, and even then, only rarely. As soon as it shows me an ad, I close out of YouTube. Not skip ad, not go back, I close YouTube. I switch to audiobooks instead.
The algorithm wants to increase watch time, the only way it can do that is to not show me ads, so that's what it does. It's surprising how well it works.
**It's learning... **
But for real, after you explained what's going on it makes perfect sense, I'm just suprised that "amount of ads delivered" is a watch time metric that the algo "optimizes" for.
does pihole work for the TV?
Not as far as I know, there's no way to set custom DNS that I've found.
I thought the point of the pihole was to route all DNS traffic through it on your network?
Note: I've never set up a pihole so this is ass talk
Part of setting up the Pihole is adjusting your router (or individual devices) to use the Pihole for DNS, but devices can use their own settings, so a smart TV with 8.8.8.8 hard coded as it's DNS would not be affected by Pihole blocking.
My favorite but of specific criticism was how they demonetized firearm-related channels because advertisers didn't want to be associated with guns, but they didn't stop running ads on those channels.
Did they remove channel blocking recently? Something very undesirable appeared on my recommendations this week, and when I went to the channel to block it it the button wasn’t there, and worse still me going to the channel auto played more of its shit. So now YouTube think I want more.
I think so. They're also starting to shift the "my subscriptions" button.
You joke but YouTube unironically shows ads like that. And more often than not, they're AI generated copyright theft, too.
These are just a few that I've seen in the last few months. It's an epidemic. ::: spoiler spoiler https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/07be6c6d-3ea3-49aa-bcd6-2c72deea10fc.jpeg https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f2233980-37fe-4472-8cd6-de90056710fc.jpeg https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/8fa1ccbd-5673-4ea8-9271-1217967fae58.jpeg https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f8b6a575-bac6-4d3d-a763-b8228d6a3437.jpeg :::
It wasn't a joke, it's just funny commentary on how twisted the advertising logic is
Wtf‽
current day youtube reminds me of current day nintendo switch eshop. (its also full of adult anime games - largely with neural-network-generated images)
tell you who that product is for.
Baki vibes