I'm a cis man, I used to work in a clothing store where putting out stock of bras and panties and other undergarments was part of my job. You know, like the countless other cis men in the world who work in stores that sell womens underwear. Does she have an issue with that?
Joanne's transphobia is completely detached from reality. Is it now preferable to have a cis man working in a lingerie section than a trans woman? If she considers trans women to be cis men, then what is her problem?
It's so fucking obvious her one goal is to erase trans people from existence and generally be an agitator.
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Aeao @lemmy.world - 4mon
Yeah. And the amount of times I've bought pads or yeast infection creams... I've never bought a bra because I always assumed that something you need to try on but Ive bought underwear.
Is crazy to me how we shame men who are to embarrassed to buy things in those aisles but if it's a woman who you feel should be called man.... It's nonsense.
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captainlezbian @lemmy.world - 4mon
They've moved from comparing us to y'all and past the adding in the assumption of nefariousness. We're now in the "dangerous by way of mere presence" category
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EmptySlime - 4mon
Not even just presence. The mere thought of our existence is a threat. Joanne seems absolutely terrified that any random woman she sees has even the remotest chance of being a cis passing trans woman and therefore a sexual assault of her waiting to happen. It doesn't matter how ridiculous it sounds. That genuinely seems to be her fear.
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killingspark @feddit.org - 4mon
Yeah the idea that the only reason to "become" (heavy quotation marks here) would obviously be so that one can be a predator is either rooted in deep trauma or self projection. It just seems impossible to them that people might just be like this.
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dylanmorgan @slrpnk.net - 4mon
I think I was 11 or 12 when I heard a gay man say “how does anyone think this is a choice? Why would I choose a life that makes me more likely to be the victim of violence and oppression?” and I thought “that’s a good point, I guess it’s not a choice then.” I apply the same logic to trans folks. It’s not easy to transition, the only reason to do it would be because what is outside doesn’t match what is inside. Same reason I exercise, which is harder than watching Netflix on the couch but miles easier than transitioning.
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resipsaloquitur @lemmy.world - 4mon
It’s pretty obvious she’s a closeted trans man named “Robert Galbraith.”
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ZILtoid1991 @lemmy.world - 4mon
Nah, she's likely just (in my opinion) some mixture of the followings:
also on the Epstein list, or was involved in some of those British grooming gangs.
covering up some horrible shit happpened at some of her orphanages.
shat her pants due to Jeremy Corbyn and his promise of raising taxes.
got angry at those LGBTQ+es due to her "representation".
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UnderpantsWeevil @lemmy.world - 4mon
"Trans people should be unemployable" will inevitably get followed by "Trans people are all welfare queens" and then on to "We must sacrifice Trans People to win elections / make the economy line go up".
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𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 - 4mon
"We must sacrifice Trans People to win elections / make the economy line go up".
And they keep telling me I need to vote for them so they can kill me a little slower.
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Catoblepas - 4mon
I call that genre of Democratic fan ‘vote blue even they kill you.’ Since yeah, that’s more or less what they’re saying in between getting mad about trans people existing as anything other than a hypothetical to debate. Show up and say their political darling of the minute isn’t perfect and out come the justifications and accusations.
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captainlezbian @lemmy.world - 4mon
We won't be welfare queens, we'll be sex workers because we'll be merely considered unemployable not disabled or regular unemployed. And they're already cracking down on sex work.
Hate crimes will just be another dead prostitute.
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Of the Air (cele/celes) - 4mon
RIP Sex repulsed asexual trans folks.
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captainlezbian @lemmy.world - 4mon
Welcome to a lot of our history and the reality for many of our siblings around the world. It's not ok, and the idea of it is personally revolting to me as a lesbian. But you survive however it takes.
I dream of a world in which that history is fully past, where trans people selling their bodies all do it freely of their own volition and not because its the only work they can find or because they've been taught that that's the only value they have or the only they can be made to feel desirable.
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Riskable - 4mon
Does she really not understand that this line of reasoning is the same that banned women (and minorities) from all sorts of places/activities in the past?
"I went to the bank today and there was a woman there applying for a loan! She wasn't even accompanied by a man!"
If she likes that kind of discrimination, maybe JKR should just shut the fuck up and let white men handle everything. She just loves that kind of oppression, after all.
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Boomer Humor Doomergod - 4mon
The odds that the employee is, in fact, cis are pretty high
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EmptySlime - 4mon
I was about to ask exactly this. What do you think the odds are on that "trans" employee just being a cis woman that's just like... Kind of butch? I can't tell you how often transphobes have harassed her for "being in the wrong bathroom" because she's 5'10" (~178cm) with an undercut and wide shoulders.
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Of the Air (cele/celes) - 4mon
Happy cake day!
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wheezy @lemmy.ml - 4mon
What about me? I'm a cis male but 240 lbs and probably about a B cup. Maybe she'd be ok with that? I'm not trans!
Seriously though, this Transphobia is the real mental health problem. Such a hyper focus on the most boring stuff but it's scary because "they're trans!"
Like, how many stories about gay men working in a women's clothing store do we get? None? Then shut the fuck up!
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Galactose - 4mon
But we do get it though, stories of gay men getting attacked & killed. TERFs are killers, treat them as such
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saddlebag @lemmy.world - 4mon
She definitely hasn’t had any gender reaffirming surgery herself! /s
She looks so weird from whatever facelift and injections she’s had. Another trash human with double standards. I’ll never enjoy HP again because of her
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Tm12 @lemmy.ca - 4mon
Did M+S not capitulate already and apologize to the karen?
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Ginny [they/she] - 4mon
M&S did apologise, but mostly in a "we're sorry you were offended" kind of way.
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Sidyctism II. - 4mon
well, i guess there is a time and place for coorporate non-pologies
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LuckingFurker (Any/All) - 4mon
They did, and I keep saying we in turn should be giving M&S hell until they apologise for apologising and for not having their (possibly) trans employees back
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Jorunn (she/her) - 4mon
I hope not
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garbagebagel @lemmy.world - 4mon
Can the mould just finish the job already
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switcheroo @lemmy.world - 4mon
Sounds like I need to buy a new bra or two. Support the store and support the ta-tas.
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PotatoLibre @feddit.it - 4mon
She'll neer learn.
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Of the Air (cele/celes) - 4mon
It's difficult to escape a cult.
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🍉 Albert 🍉 - 4mon
it's her own cunt though
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Norah (pup/it/she) - 4mon
In a complaint to M & S, she told the retailer: “Imagine her horror, then, when the person to approach us and ask if we needed help was a transgender ‘woman’, ie, a biological male.
“This is obviously the case: he is at least 6ft 2in tall... My daughter recoiled, so I politely declined the offer and we left immediately. She was visibly upset and said she felt ‘freaked out’.” Source.
I'm more willing to bet this woman is lying, or the shop attendant accidentally spooked her, and the teenager was actually freaked out about the mum's huge song and dance.
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I_Fart_Glitter @lemmy.world - 4mon
The flowers on the under side of her hat are making me irrationally angry.
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justadudeingear - 4mon
so that transmogrification spell was all a lie. jk youre a piece of work writing lies.
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Diplomjodler - 4mon
They will always find new depths to sink to.
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Zarathustra - 4mon
The world will only be safe when we can live without having to see, hear, or otherwise interact with other humans.
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Of the Air (cele/celes) - 4mon
Good thing some of us aren't human then 😉
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Professorozone @lemmy.world - 4mon
I think people just aren't meant to have billions. Every one of them is messed up.
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🐝bownage [they/he] - 4mon
Hahahahahaha hahahahahaha idiot
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Ibuthyr @lemmy.wtf - 4mon
What an insecure cunt. She needs to fuck off into nothingness.
LadyButterfly in lgbtq_plus
Everytime I think I can't hate her more, she makes me hate her more
https://piefed.cdn.blahaj.zone/posts/Vv/BW/VvBWwz1uAKoNRDE.jpgI'm a cis man, I used to work in a clothing store where putting out stock of bras and panties and other undergarments was part of my job. You know, like the countless other cis men in the world who work in stores that sell womens underwear. Does she have an issue with that?
Joanne's transphobia is completely detached from reality. Is it now preferable to have a cis man working in a lingerie section than a trans woman? If she considers trans women to be cis men, then what is her problem?
It's so fucking obvious her one goal is to erase trans people from existence and generally be an agitator.
Yeah. And the amount of times I've bought pads or yeast infection creams... I've never bought a bra because I always assumed that something you need to try on but Ive bought underwear.
Is crazy to me how we shame men who are to embarrassed to buy things in those aisles but if it's a woman who you feel should be called man.... It's nonsense.
They've moved from comparing us to y'all and past the adding in the assumption of nefariousness. We're now in the "dangerous by way of mere presence" category
Not even just presence. The mere thought of our existence is a threat. Joanne seems absolutely terrified that any random woman she sees has even the remotest chance of being a cis passing trans woman and therefore a sexual assault of her waiting to happen. It doesn't matter how ridiculous it sounds. That genuinely seems to be her fear.
Yeah the idea that the only reason to "become" (heavy quotation marks here) would obviously be so that one can be a predator is either rooted in deep trauma or self projection. It just seems impossible to them that people might just be like this.
I think I was 11 or 12 when I heard a gay man say “how does anyone think this is a choice? Why would I choose a life that makes me more likely to be the victim of violence and oppression?” and I thought “that’s a good point, I guess it’s not a choice then.” I apply the same logic to trans folks. It’s not easy to transition, the only reason to do it would be because what is outside doesn’t match what is inside. Same reason I exercise, which is harder than watching Netflix on the couch but miles easier than transitioning.
It’s pretty obvious she’s a closeted trans man named “Robert Galbraith.”
Nah, she's likely just (in my opinion) some mixture of the followings:
"Trans people should be unemployable" will inevitably get followed by "Trans people are all welfare queens" and then on to "We must sacrifice Trans People to win elections / make the economy line go up".
American Democrats are already here
And they keep telling me I need to vote for them so they can kill me a little slower.
I call that genre of Democratic fan ‘vote blue even they kill you.’ Since yeah, that’s more or less what they’re saying in between getting mad about trans people existing as anything other than a hypothetical to debate. Show up and say their political darling of the minute isn’t perfect and out come the justifications and accusations.
We won't be welfare queens, we'll be sex workers because we'll be merely considered unemployable not disabled or regular unemployed. And they're already cracking down on sex work.
Hate crimes will just be another dead prostitute.
RIP Sex repulsed asexual trans folks.
Welcome to a lot of our history and the reality for many of our siblings around the world. It's not ok, and the idea of it is personally revolting to me as a lesbian. But you survive however it takes.
I dream of a world in which that history is fully past, where trans people selling their bodies all do it freely of their own volition and not because its the only work they can find or because they've been taught that that's the only value they have or the only they can be made to feel desirable.
Does she really not understand that this line of reasoning is the same that banned women (and minorities) from all sorts of places/activities in the past?
"I went to the bank today and there was a woman there applying for a loan! She wasn't even accompanied by a man!"
If she likes that kind of discrimination, maybe JKR should just shut the fuck up and let white men handle everything. She just loves that kind of oppression, after all.
The odds that the employee is, in fact, cis are pretty high
I was about to ask exactly this. What do you think the odds are on that "trans" employee just being a cis woman that's just like... Kind of butch? I can't tell you how often transphobes have harassed her for "being in the wrong bathroom" because she's 5'10" (~178cm) with an undercut and wide shoulders.
Happy cake day!
What about me? I'm a cis male but 240 lbs and probably about a B cup. Maybe she'd be ok with that? I'm not trans!
Seriously though, this Transphobia is the real mental health problem. Such a hyper focus on the most boring stuff but it's scary because "they're trans!"
Like, how many stories about gay men working in a women's clothing store do we get? None? Then shut the fuck up!
But we do get it though, stories of gay men getting attacked & killed. TERFs are killers, treat them as such
She definitely hasn’t had any gender reaffirming surgery herself! /s
She looks so weird from whatever facelift and injections she’s had. Another trash human with double standards. I’ll never enjoy HP again because of her
Did M+S not capitulate already and apologize to the karen?
M&S did apologise, but mostly in a "we're sorry you were offended" kind of way.
well, i guess there is a time and place for coorporate non-pologies
They did, and I keep saying we in turn should be giving M&S hell until they apologise for apologising and for not having their (possibly) trans employees back
I hope not
Can the mould just finish the job already
Sounds like I need to buy a new bra or two. Support the store and support the ta-tas.
She'll neer learn.
It's difficult to escape a cult.
it's her own cunt though
I'm more willing to bet this woman is lying, or the shop attendant accidentally spooked her, and the teenager was actually freaked out about the mum's huge song and dance.
The flowers on the under side of her hat are making me irrationally angry.
so that transmogrification spell was all a lie. jk youre a piece of work writing lies.
They will always find new depths to sink to.
The world will only be safe when we can live without having to see, hear, or otherwise interact with other humans.
Good thing some of us aren't human then 😉
I think people just aren't meant to have billions. Every one of them is messed up.
Hahahahahaha hahahahahaha idiot
What an insecure cunt. She needs to fuck off into nothingness.
I want blood