Why waste time like this? Wouldn't it be better if cinemas would use vertical screens where a popular youtuber would describe the plot of the movie in like 30 seconds while talking at 2x speed?
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Quokka - 6mon
Or they could put subway surfers on the bottom half of the screen.
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WizardofFrobozz @lemmy.ca - 6mon
What is a subway surfer
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daniskarma @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6mon
And you can pay extra for a chinese voice counting numbers as back noise.
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Luccus @feddit.org - 6mon
*an AI describes part of a scene in a movie, badly.
And the title is something like “HE USES SUPERPOWERS TO SAVE HIS FRIEND #MOVIE #FILM #CINEMA #SHORTS”. Also, the name of the channel is any two word combination of: movie, cinema, star, summary, domain or reels. And each upload is either 15 to 25 minutes or a short and the channel uploads something every day.
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AnUnusualRelic @lemmy.world - 6mon
And the audience comments could scroll by on the side! Brilliant!
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istdaslol @feddit.org - 6mon
And also add a subway surfer with family guy funny Momentes for the ultimate goldfish experience
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ChaoticNeutralCzech @feddit.org - 6mon
And a live comment section. Or even synced commentary streams by YouTubers you can view on your phone via their Wi-Fi? You're paying to see the movie anyway, so they won't be limited by fair use.
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lime! - 6mon
niconico-style comments that fly across the screen
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baguettefish @discuss.tchncs.de - 6mon
those are called bullet comments btw and they're not exclusive to japan
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RandomTester @lemmybefree.net - 6mon
I kinda want this (live comment section)
am I okay?
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gerryflap @feddit.nl - 6mon
Look, I am the type who watches lectures at 1.25x or 1.5x speed or something. But movies? It'd ruin the pacing. If you can't bring up the attention to watch a movie then maybe you just shouldn't
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AlteredEgo @lemmy.ml - 6mon
What if we invented drugs that allow you to enjoy any content 1.5 times faster?
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gerryflap @feddit.nl - 6mon
Maybe that'd just make the content 1.5 times longer and 1.5 times more expensive
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I Cast Fist - 6mon
Why waste time watching an entire movie when you can just read the spoilers and know what's it about in less than 5 minutes?
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daniskarma @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 6mon
Absolutely not me watching cinemasins as a substitute to watching the whole movie.
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ChaoticNeutralCzech @feddit.org - 6mon
Theaters and opera, too. I'm sure the actors will be willing to get their shifts cut by 20-50 % if we help them negotiate the same pay per performance.
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ExploitedAmerican @lemmy.world - 6mon
Omfg most musical thester people can barely play anything with 16th notes past 120bpm this will not end well lol
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daggermoon @lemmy.world - 6mon
I hate watching anything faster than normal. I want bad things to happen to this person.
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biggerbogboy @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
do you want bad things to happen to OOP at 1.5x speed?
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Honytawk @feddit.nl - 6mon
No, more like 0.5x speed so we can savour it
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Pulptastic @midwest.social - 6mon
Nope, 0.5x
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daggermoon @lemmy.world - 6mon
this user, right here, what?
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RandomTester @lemmybefree.net - 6mon
this user, right there
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phantomwise @lemmy.ml - 6mon
If you look at old silent movies, they were played at different speeds in different cinemas and projections. There wasn't a standard way to play a movie, no "you NEED to play the movie at this specific speed or it will be ruined". I'm not saying the same should apply to modern movies, but I find it interesting.
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breecher @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
That is not true. There was a standard, which is different from todays standard. Which is why it looks funny being played at todays standard, but mostly they get digitally fixed and they look completely natural now.
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AlteredEgo @lemmy.ml - 6mon
I imagine in a few decades we might have AI media. You could read a web novel with a fewer or a lot of pictures, or read it as a manhwa / webtoon, or as an anime, or as a virtual reality 3D experience that is semi-interactive. And you could give instructions to shorten or expand it, or even diverge in the plot a little, or change the characters. More like the holodeck with a VR headset.
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QuincyPeck @lemmy.world - 6mon
So anything except actually enjoying reading a book.
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Honytawk @feddit.nl - 6mon
The book still exists, nobody is taking that away. But now you can enjoy it in different media forms.
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QuincyPeck @lemmy.world - 6mon
Never said anyone was taking it from me. Just concerning that someone would think that any of those things are the same as reading a book.
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AlteredEgo @lemmy.ml - 6mon
Maybe more like someone reading you a book while you can ask questions or give feedback. And maybe instead of just watching pictures / illustrations, you could also describe your own imagination more detailed or give some rough sketches and create your own illustrations to the text. Like a modding feature for books and you can share the mods with other readers.
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KT-TOT - 6mon
Hey google, is this media literacy?
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QuincyPeck @lemmy.world - 6mon
Again, none of those things are “enjoying a book.”
And you don’t need AI to do any of those things. You can do them now if you want.
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AlteredEgo @lemmy.ml - 5mon
No you can't, economics won't allow it. Can you turns a novel into a comic or an anime or life action tv series? Creating good art or entertainment doesn't just require some brilliant creative idea, but specialists who work together on things, using expensive specialist equipment. Youtube and cheap video cameras allowed for an explosion of individual content creators to create shows, replacing things like e.g. cooking shows, or shows about building or houses or traveling or gardening.
With the right AI tools you could replace a lot of that. Obviously at a lower maximum quality. But we are already being fed corporate entertainment slop. There will be a lot of AI slop, but a few people will be able to turn their ideas into reality even if it's not quite "Hollywood quality". This short currently seems the best example. And the tools will only get better, and the medium will expand.
When VR headsets came out (oculus, vive) there was a lot of talk about VR movies. I suspect that only with AI tools will we be able to have the creative freedom (= low capital costs) to do things like that.
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QuincyPeck @lemmy.world - 5mon
I’m not talking about economics. I’m talking about creating art for the sake of your own soul.
You are talking about content. That’s the disconnect.
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AlteredEgo @lemmy.ml - 5mon
Well, economics always enters into it.
Is that short I linked content or art? It cost time and money but it's vastly less than what it would take to create traditionally. Without AI, that guy might never have been able to create that, the "the sake of his soul". I want "working people" to be able to give it a try with whatever tools, including AI. Become directors or authors of "holonovels". AI allows for a new type of art medium.
There will always be content or slop. Always people who just want to sell garbage or people who want to be creative and think they can but are no good. But the tools empower both. A lot of content on youtube is scary garbage, like even before AI there was stuff that genuinely made me horrified, but that is an issue with moderation and not listening to the demands of the community. But there is so much amazing videos too which wouldn't have been possible or found an audience without the platform and the tools (e.g. cheap video cameras, video editing software).
PS: I do wish for standards or regulations so it's clearly marked which parts are generated and which parts are human made.
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Paradachshund @lemmy.today - 6mon
This is when noncreatives will learn that making good stuff is hard 😅
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алсааас [she/they] - 6mon
The industrial revolution and it's consequences....
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Tiger666 @lemmy.ca - 6mon
What is this the 19th century?
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lightnsfw @reddthat.com - 6mon
Does this person not pay for their ticket? It costs 15$ for a ticket at our theater. Why would I want to waste that money by having it sped up? It's hard enough finding movies that are worth watching in the first place.
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nomy @lemmy.zip - 6mon
The theater here does a half price deal on Tuesdays, two of us can go for like $12.95, it's a great deal.
Might be worth checking in your area, I've seen a lot more mediocre movies after we started going on Tuesday.
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latenightnoir - 6mon
I... what? I'm suddenly very happy for David Lynch, that he didn't live long enough to see this catch on...
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qarbone @lemmy.world - 6mon
It hasn't...caught on? People have just stopped going to movies as much, and I don't think 4 concurrent showings of the new Jurassic Park movie at speeds 1x thru 2x are saving them.
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breecher @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
Plenty of replies in this thread suggests it has indeed caught on. The part where people are watching movies at higher speeds that is, not cinemas showing them at that speed.
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latenightnoir - 6mon
Not in theatres, yes.
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TabbsTheBat (they/them) - 6mon
Just like me fr :3
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Quokka - 6mon
YouTube added customisable speeds recently!
I find 1.4 to be enjoyable, but 2x if I need to get through something dense.
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TabbsTheBat (they/them) - 6mon
I usually watch anime on 2x, but I struggle with other media at that speed, probably cause I can read faster than listen to words in english lol. I do watch videos in my native language faster on the rare occasions I do watch any
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Krauerking @lemy.lol - 6mon
How much crap are you watching if you have to speed it up to get through it all?
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humorlessrepost @lemmy.world - 6mon
The dopamine must flow!
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rollerbang @lemmy.world - 6mon
For obvious reasons this will never happen. That being said, I do the same with most content. When YouTube I use from 1.25 as an absolute minimum to 2.0 a lot of the time. Average being 1.5. For movies/series I tend to opt for 1.25-1.33.
But this all fails when any music is involved - then I dial it down to 1.0.
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Soapbox @lemmy.zip - 6mon
I can kind of understand the people who speed up audiobooks and podcasts. But movies? That's nuts. |
I wonder if OP was alive during the VCR era. I bet they would have loved the FF button. AKA chipmunk mode.
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FQQD - 6mon
Jokes aside, I think this would actually be an interesting thing that would get younger people back in cinemas. At least for the absurdity of it.
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LesserAbe @lemmy.world - 6mon
Yeah and what if we played it backward and with the colors inverted
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MBech @feddit.dk - 6mon
About 10 years too late I think. That dumb shit died out years ago.
Nice, thanks for sharing. I might have missed it but does it say how they handled audio?
Superimposing images would probably have more happy accidents than superimposing reversed audio, which would probably just make things unintelligible.
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Cracks_InTheWalls @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
Don't quote me on this (haven't seen it and only pulled partial clips before answering), but I think the audio just runs as per normal. Though it'd be kind of cool to have reverse audio as an option (if in a theatre, idk, have a set up kinda like what folks do for silent discos/some bluetooth device with serious multi-connection capacity or something, and people who opt for it have one earpiece in while the vanilla track plays in the room).
Only aware of it 'cause the rep theatre here did a screening once. Seemed cool.
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FQQD - 6mon
great idea
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RandomTester @lemmybefree.net - 6mon
for me to come back they would have to:
get cheaper
be less loud, like I feel like I could have hearing loss after going to the cinema
better screen quality
less annoying people
no ads, seriously. I'm paying to see the thing and still have to endure ads? And people complain about streaming services when cinemas have been doing this for ages
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 6mon
This post would fit perfectly:
!opisafuckingidiot@lemmy.world
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itslilith - 6mon
That community just has posts of people you individually disagree with or don't like in it. Like vegans, or women. I'll pass
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 6mon
Read again. Slowly.
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NoForwardslashS @sopuli.xyz - 6mon
That community [the community that you moderate along with a carnist community] just has post of people you individually disagree with or don't like in it. Like vegans, or women. We should all pass
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 6mon
Now click the link and read again.
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Nat (she/they) - 6mon
Like this where you attack a woman for having the gall to say men are scary, or this where you bully a neurodivergent person for explaining that they can't parse sarcasm? idk, kinda seems like "people you individually disagree with" is pretty apt. I mean, one of the posts is you not understanding a bad joke.
It's weird, because your profile shows you're aggressively anti Zionist and anti Russian imperialist, but then you also have this weird community for calling random people "fucking idiots" for seemingly no reason? Maybe direct your anger more towards the imperialism and less towards people who, at worst, are mildly annoying or wrong on the Internet.
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 6mon
Perhaps that you since you seem to be very salty about my community:
Or perhaps you are one of the other which featured there:
A guy who claims Israel has right to bombard residential apartments
A guy who claims Ukraine are "nazis"
A guy who claims Stalin was not a murderer and Gulags were OK.
All of which are fucking idiots.
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Nat (she/they) - 6mon
I'm pro Israel for saying your anti Zionism is good but your attacking random (non Zionists) people online is bad?
The links I gave were definitely not those things you just said and we both know it, so drop the motte and bailey and own up to what you've been doing.
Really take some time to reflect on why you're so angry and defensive. Judging by the 3 replies I got from you, I think this was you desperately responding to save face, and I don't want that, I want you to take some time to think about this.
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itslilith - 6mon
No, I don't think I will
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Nat (she/they) - 6mon
I guess it'd be a good place to post screenshots of your stuff. I did read it, you're not magically a genius for telling others to read slower.
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алсааас [she/they] - 6mon
Reading is hard and understanding two layers (that you mean OOP and not OP of this post), is even harder
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 6mon
Yup. Unless of course this guy likes genocide defenders or Russian shills and he objects to calling them fucking idiots.
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RandomTester @lemmybefree.net - 6mon
There's like one post criticizing a women that is generalizing bad behavior and associating it with all men
and a maximum of 5% posts that are about vegans
You're implying they are sexist while defending a sexist post. Nice.
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itslilith - 6mon
There's 10 posts in that com, out of which
1 is a woman making a TikTok about femicides
1 is a neurodivergent person talking about tone markers in text
1 is a vegan, in a vegan community, blurring images of meat
All of which are fucking idiots, apparently
... and then there's the one that just doesn't get a meme?
not_IO in 196
movie rule
Why waste time like this? Wouldn't it be better if cinemas would use vertical screens where a popular youtuber would describe the plot of the movie in like 30 seconds while talking at 2x speed?
Or they could put subway surfers on the bottom half of the screen.
What is a subway surfer
And you can pay extra for a chinese voice counting numbers as back noise.
*an AI describes part of a scene in a movie, badly.
And the title is something like “HE USES SUPERPOWERS TO SAVE HIS FRIEND #MOVIE #FILM #CINEMA #SHORTS”. Also, the name of the channel is any two word combination of: movie, cinema, star, summary, domain or reels. And each upload is either 15 to 25 minutes or a short and the channel uploads something every day.
And the audience comments could scroll by on the side! Brilliant!
And also add a subway surfer with family guy funny Momentes for the ultimate goldfish experience
And a live comment section. Or even synced commentary streams by YouTubers you can view on your phone via their Wi-Fi? You're paying to see the movie anyway, so they won't be limited by fair use.
niconico-style comments that fly across the screen
those are called bullet comments btw and they're not exclusive to japan
I kinda want this (live comment section)
am I okay?
Look, I am the type who watches lectures at 1.25x or 1.5x speed or something. But movies? It'd ruin the pacing. If you can't bring up the attention to watch a movie then maybe you just shouldn't
What if we invented drugs that allow you to enjoy any content 1.5 times faster?
Maybe that'd just make the content 1.5 times longer and 1.5 times more expensive
Why waste time watching an entire movie when you can just read the spoilers and know what's it about in less than 5 minutes?
Absolutely not me watching cinemasins as a substitute to watching the whole movie.
Theaters and opera, too. I'm sure the actors will be willing to get their shifts cut by 20-50 % if we help them negotiate the same pay per performance.
Omfg most musical thester people can barely play anything with 16th notes past 120bpm this will not end well lol
I hate watching anything faster than normal. I want bad things to happen to this person.
do you want bad things to happen to OOP at 1.5x speed?
No, more like 0.5x speed so we can savour it
Nope, 0.5x
this user, right here, what?
this user, right there
If you look at old silent movies, they were played at different speeds in different cinemas and projections. There wasn't a standard way to play a movie, no "you NEED to play the movie at this specific speed or it will be ruined". I'm not saying the same should apply to modern movies, but I find it interesting.
That is not true. There was a standard, which is different from todays standard. Which is why it looks funny being played at todays standard, but mostly they get digitally fixed and they look completely natural now.
I imagine in a few decades we might have AI media. You could read a web novel with a fewer or a lot of pictures, or read it as a manhwa / webtoon, or as an anime, or as a virtual reality 3D experience that is semi-interactive. And you could give instructions to shorten or expand it, or even diverge in the plot a little, or change the characters. More like the holodeck with a VR headset.
So anything except actually enjoying reading a book.
The book still exists, nobody is taking that away. But now you can enjoy it in different media forms.
Never said anyone was taking it from me. Just concerning that someone would think that any of those things are the same as reading a book.
Maybe more like someone reading you a book while you can ask questions or give feedback. And maybe instead of just watching pictures / illustrations, you could also describe your own imagination more detailed or give some rough sketches and create your own illustrations to the text. Like a modding feature for books and you can share the mods with other readers.
Hey google, is this media literacy?
Again, none of those things are “enjoying a book.”
And you don’t need AI to do any of those things. You can do them now if you want.
No you can't, economics won't allow it. Can you turns a novel into a comic or an anime or life action tv series? Creating good art or entertainment doesn't just require some brilliant creative idea, but specialists who work together on things, using expensive specialist equipment. Youtube and cheap video cameras allowed for an explosion of individual content creators to create shows, replacing things like e.g. cooking shows, or shows about building or houses or traveling or gardening.
With the right AI tools you could replace a lot of that. Obviously at a lower maximum quality. But we are already being fed corporate entertainment slop. There will be a lot of AI slop, but a few people will be able to turn their ideas into reality even if it's not quite "Hollywood quality". This short currently seems the best example. And the tools will only get better, and the medium will expand.
When VR headsets came out (oculus, vive) there was a lot of talk about VR movies. I suspect that only with AI tools will we be able to have the creative freedom (= low capital costs) to do things like that.
I’m not talking about economics. I’m talking about creating art for the sake of your own soul.
You are talking about content. That’s the disconnect.
Well, economics always enters into it.
Is that short I linked content or art? It cost time and money but it's vastly less than what it would take to create traditionally. Without AI, that guy might never have been able to create that, the "the sake of his soul". I want "working people" to be able to give it a try with whatever tools, including AI. Become directors or authors of "holonovels". AI allows for a new type of art medium.
There will always be content or slop. Always people who just want to sell garbage or people who want to be creative and think they can but are no good. But the tools empower both. A lot of content on youtube is scary garbage, like even before AI there was stuff that genuinely made me horrified, but that is an issue with moderation and not listening to the demands of the community. But there is so much amazing videos too which wouldn't have been possible or found an audience without the platform and the tools (e.g. cheap video cameras, video editing software).
PS: I do wish for standards or regulations so it's clearly marked which parts are generated and which parts are human made.
This is when noncreatives will learn that making good stuff is hard 😅
The industrial revolution and it's consequences....
What is this the 19th century?
Does this person not pay for their ticket? It costs 15$ for a ticket at our theater. Why would I want to waste that money by having it sped up? It's hard enough finding movies that are worth watching in the first place.
The theater here does a half price deal on Tuesdays, two of us can go for like $12.95, it's a great deal.
Might be worth checking in your area, I've seen a lot more mediocre movies after we started going on Tuesday.
I... what? I'm suddenly very happy for David Lynch, that he didn't live long enough to see this catch on...
It hasn't...caught on? People have just stopped going to movies as much, and I don't think 4 concurrent showings of the new Jurassic Park movie at speeds 1x thru 2x are saving them.
Plenty of replies in this thread suggests it has indeed caught on. The part where people are watching movies at higher speeds that is, not cinemas showing them at that speed.
Not in theatres, yes.
Just like me fr :3
YouTube added customisable speeds recently!
I find 1.4 to be enjoyable, but 2x if I need to get through something dense.
I usually watch anime on 2x, but I struggle with other media at that speed, probably cause I can read faster than listen to words in english lol. I do watch videos in my native language faster on the rare occasions I do watch any
How much crap are you watching if you have to speed it up to get through it all?
The dopamine must flow!
For obvious reasons this will never happen. That being said, I do the same with most content. When YouTube I use from 1.25 as an absolute minimum to 2.0 a lot of the time. Average being 1.5. For movies/series I tend to opt for 1.25-1.33.
But this all fails when any music is involved - then I dial it down to 1.0.
I can kind of understand the people who speed up audiobooks and podcasts. But movies? That's nuts. |
I wonder if OP was alive during the VCR era. I bet they would have loved the FF button. AKA chipmunk mode.
Jokes aside, I think this would actually be an interesting thing that would get younger people back in cinemas. At least for the absurdity of it.
Yeah and what if we played it backward and with the colors inverted
About 10 years too late I think. That dumb shit died out years ago.
I mean, this exists, so why not? https://www.screenslate.com/articles/shining-forwards-and-backwards
Nice, thanks for sharing. I might have missed it but does it say how they handled audio?
Superimposing images would probably have more happy accidents than superimposing reversed audio, which would probably just make things unintelligible.
Don't quote me on this (haven't seen it and only pulled partial clips before answering), but I think the audio just runs as per normal. Though it'd be kind of cool to have reverse audio as an option (if in a theatre, idk, have a set up kinda like what folks do for silent discos/some bluetooth device with serious multi-connection capacity or something, and people who opt for it have one earpiece in while the vanilla track plays in the room).
Only aware of it 'cause the rep theatre here did a screening once. Seemed cool.
great idea
for me to come back they would have to:
This post would fit perfectly:
!opisafuckingidiot@lemmy.world
That community just has posts of people you individually disagree with or don't like in it. Like vegans, or women. I'll pass
Read again. Slowly.
That community [the community that you moderate along with a carnist community] just has post of people you individually disagree with or don't like in it. Like vegans, or women. We should all pass
Now click the link and read again.
Like this where you attack a woman for having the gall to say men are scary, or this where you bully a neurodivergent person for explaining that they can't parse sarcasm? idk, kinda seems like "people you individually disagree with" is pretty apt. I mean, one of the posts is you not understanding a bad joke.
It's weird, because your profile shows you're aggressively anti Zionist and anti Russian imperialist, but then you also have this weird community for calling random people "fucking idiots" for seemingly no reason? Maybe direct your anger more towards the imperialism and less towards people who, at worst, are mildly annoying or wrong on the Internet.
Perhaps that you since you seem to be very salty about my community:
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/423d3a53-7d95-4fcd-b604-28f4bb1aa9ce.jpeg
Or perhaps you are one of the other which featured there:
A guy who claims Israel has right to bombard residential apartments
A guy who claims Ukraine are "nazis"
A guy who claims Stalin was not a murderer and Gulags were OK.
All of which are fucking idiots.
I'm pro Israel for saying your anti Zionism is good but your attacking random (non Zionists) people online is bad?
The links I gave were definitely not those things you just said and we both know it, so drop the motte and bailey and own up to what you've been doing.
Really take some time to reflect on why you're so angry and defensive. Judging by the 3 replies I got from you, I think this was you desperately responding to save face, and I don't want that, I want you to take some time to think about this.
No, I don't think I will
I guess it'd be a good place to post screenshots of your stuff. I did read it, you're not magically a genius for telling others to read slower.
Reading is hard and understanding two layers (that you mean OOP and not OP of this post), is even harder
Yup. Unless of course this guy likes genocide defenders or Russian shills and he objects to calling them fucking idiots.
There's like one post criticizing a women that is generalizing bad behavior and associating it with all men
and a maximum of 5% posts that are about vegans
You're implying they are sexist while defending a sexist post. Nice.
There's 10 posts in that com, out of which
All of which are fucking idiots, apparently
... and then there's the one that just doesn't get a meme?