This is how you solve the transgender restroom "problem"
Walls that go floor to ceiling, a full length door that locks.
Diplomjodler - 6mon
This is what toilets look like in civilised countries.
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themeatbridge - 6mon
Or, like, don't look at people's genitals in the bathrooms. This is not a real problem. Public restrooms have managed to create privacy for as long as we've had public restrooms. Trans people aren't a new phenomenon, they're just the latest conservative scapegoat.
This is not a real problem.
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Miles O'Brien - 6mon
I have gone 30 something years of memory and the ONLY time I have ever seen genitalia in the bathroom was 1 intentional flasher in high school gym and 1 kid when we were in 1st grade who pulled his pants to his ankles by the sink and walked to the urinal on the opposite wall.
Never in my adult life has it occurred. If you keep your eyes away from genital height, you don't have anything to worry about..
So if you're having a problem with seeing people's junk in the bathroom, maybe stop staring?
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themeatbridge - 6mon
And just to be clear, no incidents related to creeps or pedophiles would be prevented by restricting trans people from using public facilities. Creeps are already breaking the law peeking at people. Creating a law just gives creeps a reason to bully trans individuals when they have to pee.
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gandalf_der_12te - 6mon
Public restrooms have managed to create privacy for as long as weโve had public restrooms.
you're gonna laugh at this but romans shat in companionship with their fellow people, like this:
Exactly. No doors, no walls, just a big room with a trough, and zero visible genitalia.
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๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ - 6mon
Just a bunch of guys having a good time, not a phone in sight
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Korhaka @sopuli.xyz - 6mon
Isn't this just a normal toilet?
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sexyskinnybitch - 6mon
Not in the US. Most have stalls with walls that start about a foot off of the floor and end around 6' up.
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nocturne - 6mon
And have gaps between the wall sections and around the doors.
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tempest @lemmy.ca - 6mon
Yeah this would never work in the States since there is no dime sized gap where you can lock eyes with other patrons.
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13igTyme @lemmy.world - 6mon
We still have those, they are just less common depending on where you are. The most common bathroom type by far is single use bathrooms. This isn't really an actual issue, just a fact one made up by bigots.
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gandalf_der_12te - 6mon
oh, we have that too in europe, sometimes. idk why they do that, actually
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cooligula @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
Afaik it's mainly for ventilation purposes. The openings on the bottom and top create a path for air to flow.
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troed - 6mon
I see Europe
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TheLeadenSea @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
In the UK, this is just what toilets look like.
Edit: and there's still a large opposition to trans people using toilets here
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Korhaka @sopuli.xyz - 6mon
Where is it though? I don't know anyone IRL that cares. And yet online apparently its the biggest issue in the world. Does make you wonder if they are either all bots or never leave the house.
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TheLeadenSea @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
I know several IRL, I guess it's a matter of the people you hang out with.
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Korhaka @sopuli.xyz - 6mon
I think the worst I can think of is people that just don't really understand, think its strange/confusing. But no one that is hostile to your existence. They will probably use the wrong terms, but they don't really mean to offend and even if they think it odd, they won't stop you from using a fucking toilet.
I suppose most people I know voted green though so it might be a sampling bias.
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WillStealYourUsername - 6mon
The UK is experiencing a surge in hate and violence against trans people, so it's for sure sampling bias. From what I've heard from others from your country it varies by city a lot how accepting people are
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zero_spelled_with_an_ecks @programming.dev - 6mon
I wish I didn't know anymore IRL that cares about it. In laws and an aunt are right wing. I try not to be around them as they say heinous things when they get drunk. And they're always drinking.
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Noxy - 6mon
it's not a problem
it doesn't need solving
this wouldn't change anything anyways
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A7thStone @lemmy.world - 6mon
But they don't wasn't to solve a "problem", they want to create one.
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Zorsith - 6mon
Looks a bit narrow but still preferable to the american bathroom stall.
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sexyskinnybitch - 6mon
It's the same size, just more private.
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hazel - 6mon
And a hook upon which I can hang my bag and coat. Glorious toilet, this one. Good find.
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WillStealYourUsername - 6mon
I didn't read the title and was very confused about why you had shared a picture of a bathroom for a while
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dmention7 @lemm.ee - 6mon
American here. Aren't you worried about suffocating in that stall, without 1.5ft [50cm] gaps between the floor and the wall, and 1in [25mm] gaps around the door for proper ventilation?
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Hideakikarate @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
Man, doing any sort of repair work in that stall looks like it would be a bitch.
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nocturne - 6mon
It would probably be better to do repair work at home, or a workshop. Doing it in a bathroom stall you are likely to drop a small piece down the toilet.
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Hideakikarate @sh.itjust.works - 6mon
I was more referring to the size of the stall. Very narrow, not a lot of space to maneuver.
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pinball_wizard @lemmy.zip - 6mon
Agreed. Most of my table saws and furniture clamps couldn't be applied properly in there. I'll stick with my workshop.
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maria [she/her] - 6mon
wait whads the problm?...
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PaulBunyan @lemm.ee - 6mon
Iโm curious about the smell of these bathrooms compared to the ones with openings around the stall. The open stall allows better air flow, but that also means youโre getting a blend of everyoneโs stench. These closed stalls seem like theyโd hold a shit smell a lot longer, but you donโt have to share the smells with others.
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stray @pawb.social - 6mon
I never notice a smell unless it's like someone literally pissed on the floor or something, which is not super common around here. I bet you they're probably ventilated.
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WillStealYourUsername - 6mon
I used to draw ventilation for businesses! So I dunno what the requirements are for public bathrooms like these, but bathroom stalls are generally required to be well ventilated. We usually always placed an extract vent right above the toilet
sexyskinnybitch in trans
This is how you solve the transgender restroom "problem"
Walls that go floor to ceiling, a full length door that locks.
This is what toilets look like in civilised countries.
Or, like, don't look at people's genitals in the bathrooms. This is not a real problem. Public restrooms have managed to create privacy for as long as we've had public restrooms. Trans people aren't a new phenomenon, they're just the latest conservative scapegoat.
This is not a real problem.
I have gone 30 something years of memory and the ONLY time I have ever seen genitalia in the bathroom was 1 intentional flasher in high school gym and 1 kid when we were in 1st grade who pulled his pants to his ankles by the sink and walked to the urinal on the opposite wall.
Never in my adult life has it occurred. If you keep your eyes away from genital height, you don't have anything to worry about..
So if you're having a problem with seeing people's junk in the bathroom, maybe stop staring?
And just to be clear, no incidents related to creeps or pedophiles would be prevented by restricting trans people from using public facilities. Creeps are already breaking the law peeking at people. Creating a law just gives creeps a reason to bully trans individuals when they have to pee.
you're gonna laugh at this but romans shat in companionship with their fellow people, like this:
https://www.historyhit.com/app/uploads/2021/12/RomanToilet_wikimedia.jpg
Exactly. No doors, no walls, just a big room with a trough, and zero visible genitalia.
Just a bunch of guys having a good time, not a phone in sight
Isn't this just a normal toilet?
Not in the US. Most have stalls with walls that start about a foot off of the floor and end around 6' up.
And have gaps between the wall sections and around the doors.
Yeah this would never work in the States since there is no dime sized gap where you can lock eyes with other patrons.
We still have those, they are just less common depending on where you are. The most common bathroom type by far is single use bathrooms. This isn't really an actual issue, just a fact one made up by bigots.
oh, we have that too in europe, sometimes. idk why they do that, actually
Afaik it's mainly for ventilation purposes. The openings on the bottom and top create a path for air to flow.
I see Europe
In the UK, this is just what toilets look like.
Edit: and there's still a large opposition to trans people using toilets here
Where is it though? I don't know anyone IRL that cares. And yet online apparently its the biggest issue in the world. Does make you wonder if they are either all bots or never leave the house.
I know several IRL, I guess it's a matter of the people you hang out with.
I think the worst I can think of is people that just don't really understand, think its strange/confusing. But no one that is hostile to your existence. They will probably use the wrong terms, but they don't really mean to offend and even if they think it odd, they won't stop you from using a fucking toilet.
I suppose most people I know voted green though so it might be a sampling bias.
The UK is experiencing a surge in hate and violence against trans people, so it's for sure sampling bias. From what I've heard from others from your country it varies by city a lot how accepting people are
I wish I didn't know anymore IRL that cares about it. In laws and an aunt are right wing. I try not to be around them as they say heinous things when they get drunk. And they're always drinking.
it's not a problem
it doesn't need solving
this wouldn't change anything anyways
But they don't wasn't to solve a "problem", they want to create one.
Looks a bit narrow but still preferable to the american bathroom stall.
It's the same size, just more private.
And a hook upon which I can hang my bag and coat. Glorious toilet, this one. Good find.
I didn't read the title and was very confused about why you had shared a picture of a bathroom for a while
American here. Aren't you worried about suffocating in that stall, without 1.5ft [50cm] gaps between the floor and the wall, and 1in [25mm] gaps around the door for proper ventilation?
Man, doing any sort of repair work in that stall looks like it would be a bitch.
It would probably be better to do repair work at home, or a workshop. Doing it in a bathroom stall you are likely to drop a small piece down the toilet.
I was more referring to the size of the stall. Very narrow, not a lot of space to maneuver.
Agreed. Most of my table saws and furniture clamps couldn't be applied properly in there. I'll stick with my workshop.
wait whads the problm?...
Iโm curious about the smell of these bathrooms compared to the ones with openings around the stall. The open stall allows better air flow, but that also means youโre getting a blend of everyoneโs stench. These closed stalls seem like theyโd hold a shit smell a lot longer, but you donโt have to share the smells with others.
I never notice a smell unless it's like someone literally pissed on the floor or something, which is not super common around here. I bet you they're probably ventilated.
I used to draw ventilation for businesses! So I dunno what the requirements are for public bathrooms like these, but bathroom stalls are generally required to be well ventilated. We usually always placed an extract vent right above the toilet