These are all old af. But the point is Hatsune Miku is more like an instrument.
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stebo - 8mon
thanks for sharing but it is really not my genre
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SoleInvictus - 8mon
I just can't stand the "adult woman talking/singing in a breathy small child's voice" style that's so popular in Japan, and Hatsune Miku is that squared.
Edit: here's a related article for anyone curious about why that phenomenon may exist. In a nutshell: gender inequality.
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gandalf_der_12te - 8mon
The article claims there is a correlation between gender gap and high-pitched voices, but it does not imply causation.
Also it's simply not true. There's lots of countries where gender inequality is significantly higher than in Japan (look at any african country basically, or Muslim countries), yet women there don't speak with such a high-pitched voice, IMO.
Apart from that, the article gives me serious "beauty is oppression, and flirting is rape" vibes. Like the kind of messaging that is typically provided by nowadays "feminist" outlets who do in fact not focus on the social and socio-economic goal of improving the position of women in society as we/they are (fair-ness or true equality), but instead tries to focus on same-ness and abandoning that women dress pretty because oh no, she does that because she's pressured by men in a patriarchic society to do so.
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NotASharkInAManSuit @lemmy.world - 8mon
The article outlined reasons for that to be happening in Japan, and references India for similarity, it didn’t imply that that is a universal response to gender inequality, simply that the reason for that specific phenomenon in Japanese culture is likely because of gender inequality, which seems more than a reasonable conclusion to me, especially when you look at the 80’s business woman culture era and how there was a decline in that specific behavior.
Also, I’m very much not seeing what you’re saying about your interpretation of feminism being present in the article. Gender inequality is a thing, objectively, to address that as a part that plays relevance in any given context doesn’t require feminist values.
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SoleInvictus - 8mon
If you have any sources beyond "IMO" I'd be interested. Until then, I'll consider the correlative data to possibly have merit at least worth consideration and further (personal) investigation, especially since it was never stated or even suggested to be definitive or a universal phenomenon. The article is also anything but comprehensive, so I think you'd need to review the actual data to debunk anything.
Edit: I also never stated this was the sole and definitive cause, only that it may explain it. I'm a scientist, I know better than to definitively state just about anything, even in my own field, but I'll still share interesting articles without busting out a MANOVA.
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stebo - 8mon
yeah I feel the same
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mizuki - 8mon
that's totally a fair point, it's definitely not for everyone. but I would like to point out that how Miku sounds depends heavily on the composer and how they tune her, so while a lot of her music falls into that category, alot of it doesnt. she is essentially an instrument after all.
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Rai @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 8mon
I didn’t realize Mikunhas been a round for that long…
this is so based it sounds almost too good to be true
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aubertlone - 8mon
Well if it makes you feel any better it's more than likely not true
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bane_killgrind @slrpnk.net - 8mon
Yeah what a nice redneck
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ZMoney @lemmy.world - 8mon
I have a friend who looks like this. 6'5, Carhardt jacket, overalls, drinks Budweiser like it's water. Hangs out with socialists. He says he got his septum piercing mainly so the alt right would leave him alone.
andros_rex in 196
rideshare rule
That rideshare driver's name? Albert Einstein.
Miku saves the day once again
just listened to Hatsune Miku and now I know I can't be trans
Miku is a computer program, the quality of what you get depends on who’s making the music.
Some songs I’ve liked:
BLACK ROCK SHOOTER
Love is War
The Disappearance of Hatsune Miku
Lots of Laugh
These are all old af. But the point is Hatsune Miku is more like an instrument.
thanks for sharing but it is really not my genre
I just can't stand the "adult woman talking/singing in a breathy small child's voice" style that's so popular in Japan, and Hatsune Miku is that squared.
Edit: here's a related article for anyone curious about why that phenomenon may exist. In a nutshell: gender inequality.
The article claims there is a correlation between gender gap and high-pitched voices, but it does not imply causation.
Also it's simply not true. There's lots of countries where gender inequality is significantly higher than in Japan (look at any african country basically, or Muslim countries), yet women there don't speak with such a high-pitched voice, IMO.
Apart from that, the article gives me serious "beauty is oppression, and flirting is rape" vibes. Like the kind of messaging that is typically provided by nowadays "feminist" outlets who do in fact not focus on the social and socio-economic goal of improving the position of women in society as we/they are (fair-ness or true equality), but instead tries to focus on same-ness and abandoning that women dress pretty because oh no, she does that because she's pressured by men in a patriarchic society to do so.
The article outlined reasons for that to be happening in Japan, and references India for similarity, it didn’t imply that that is a universal response to gender inequality, simply that the reason for that specific phenomenon in Japanese culture is likely because of gender inequality, which seems more than a reasonable conclusion to me, especially when you look at the 80’s business woman culture era and how there was a decline in that specific behavior.
Also, I’m very much not seeing what you’re saying about your interpretation of feminism being present in the article. Gender inequality is a thing, objectively, to address that as a part that plays relevance in any given context doesn’t require feminist values.
If you have any sources beyond "IMO" I'd be interested. Until then, I'll consider the correlative data to possibly have merit at least worth consideration and further (personal) investigation, especially since it was never stated or even suggested to be definitive or a universal phenomenon. The article is also anything but comprehensive, so I think you'd need to review the actual data to debunk anything.
Edit: I also never stated this was the sole and definitive cause, only that it may explain it. I'm a scientist, I know better than to definitively state just about anything, even in my own field, but I'll still share interesting articles without busting out a MANOVA.
yeah I feel the same
that's totally a fair point, it's definitely not for everyone. but I would like to point out that how Miku sounds depends heavily on the composer and how they tune her, so while a lot of her music falls into that category, alot of it doesnt. she is essentially an instrument after all.
I didn’t realize Mikunhas been a round for that long…
Originally released in 2004.
Absolutely wild, thank you!
Well now we have to find you good Miku songs just in case you are trans.
https://youtu.be/Ljr2wMSBHqU
are there really people who unironically listen to this stuff?
(coming from someone who listens to quirky kpop songs)
I don't know about the exact stats, but 49 million views in 5 months can't all be ironically, certainly?
yeah
It's not for everyone but I like it
well i didn't mean anything by it, I'm glad you have something to enjoy
All of these are tremendously grating to me. Obviously I'm not the target audience, because as the other reply says this character is super popular.
here's another one for anyone interested, it's definitely a very different genre though
https://youtu.be/TXfJVNqaHiM
Hatsune Miku can into symphonic orchestra
Real and heterosexual
And then Barney the fucking dinosaur clapped
Wholesome clocking x_x
I'm thinking Miku Miku oooweeeoooh.
https://tenor.com/fdp0IhKSdyu.gif
Something something book cover.
Damn. I hope to be like the driver some day.
this is so based it sounds almost too good to be true
Well if it makes you feel any better it's more than likely not true
Yeah what a nice redneck
I have a friend who looks like this. 6'5, Carhardt jacket, overalls, drinks Budweiser like it's water. Hangs out with socialists. He says he got his septum piercing mainly so the alt right would leave him alone.