Just the one about Larry and his breast milk fetish
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DickFiasco @lemm.ee - 8mon
Game devs back then were also the company owners and CEOs.
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riwo - 8mon
well good thing thats not the case anymore!
imagine how bad video games would be if these imbecils had any more power smh
/s :<
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Thorry84 @feddit.nl - 8mon
The minimum requirements one is a bit of a weird one, as those were definitely a thing back then. Gaming pushed computer technology a lot and personally many of my computer upgrades were motivated to play the latest games.
I remember upgrading my PC for Duke3D from 4MB to 8MB, it cost me my entire paycheck.
Back then strict requirements made sense. Doubling anything made a huge difference. Not so much anymore. Today's AAA games do look marginally better than the AAA games of 5 years ago, but only marginally, and these slight improvements in fidelity have massive computational cost which directly results in worse performance.
Yeah, Quake 2 recommended a Pentium 133, and that was released two years earlier(the AMD equivalent was released only a year and a half before the game). It required a Pentium 90 which was three years old, but it didn't run smooth from what I remember.
That sort of requirement for a major component today would be considered self-sabotage for most non-vr pc games.
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kittenzrulz123 - 8mon
When games like Half-Life were released im pretty sure most people didnt have a 3d capable GPU
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BastingChemina @slrpnk.net - 8mon
I remember very specifically not being able to play a game I was gifted because it needed at least 256mb of ram and the family computer only had 128mb.
I was extremely sad, then after months tried to push my parents to her a new computer. They say that the computer is supposed to have 256mb of ram.
After a while we realized that one of the ram sticks was not properly plugged in.
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t_berium @lemmy.world - 8mon
Yeah, imagine the games we could have if this had not stopped because of consoles.
Not saying it was a good development. Just saying it rapidly developed game graphics and systems.
ya have to consider that game development back then was a hobby/new business venture and the corporations hadnt gotten its capitalist, profit-maximizing ray all over the process yet
just look at indies vs the usual story of how upper management gets in the way of development
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Glide @lemmy.ca - 8mon
Exaclty. I can find you an indie game in the last couple years for each top-line category. Well, except coding the entire game in assembly. I mean, it's a flex, but we just don't live in that world of necessity anymore.
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scops - 8mon
That first one doesn't make any sense. Every processor has its own assembly language. The game would run on YOUR machine and any others running the same processors, but you'd have to build a custom version for any other processor you want to support.
That said, it could potentially be insanely well optimized for that platform if everything was hand coded.
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Barbecue Cowboy - 8mon
That one is about Chris Sawyer. He'll remind people that there was a bit of C in there, but 99% x86 assembly / machine code in his words.
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Clbull @lemmy.world - 8mon
I think he only used C to build the installer. The rest was coded in x86 assembly.
Building anything in x86 assembly is a gargantuan effort, but then Chris Sawyer built a game on the same level of scale as RollerCoaster Tycoon...
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mriswith @lemmy.world - 8mon
There is some C in the game as well:
It's 99% written in x86 assembler/machine code (yes, really!), with a small amount of C code used to interface to MS Windows and DirectX.
For anyone interested in why, C was new and didn't yet optimize to the same level that a clever and experienced human could optimize Assembly. IIRC, by the time he was developing Roller Coaster Tycoon, C compiler optimization was on par with human Assembly optimization, so it was the last notable game written entirely in Assembly for optimization purposes.
Except that they are talking explicitly about games like Rollercoaster Tycoon and Doom. Full colored games with animations, soundtracks, the whole thing (and aged pretty well too, imo)
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FelixCress @lemmy.world - 8mon
100% that. They are essentially selling a broken product, it is ridiculous.
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waldfee - 8mon
๐ถits uncompressed asset time๐ถ
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MonsterCity7732 @sh.itjust.works - 7mon
This is unfortunately very true. Thankfully there are a lot of great indie games that don't have this problem.
Clbull in 196
Game Developer Rule
Game publishers*
I wouldnโt put most of that on devs.
Just the one about Larry and his breast milk fetish
Game devs back then were also the company owners and CEOs.
well good thing thats not the case anymore!
imagine how bad video games would be if these imbecils had any more power smh
/s :<
The minimum requirements one is a bit of a weird one, as those were definitely a thing back then. Gaming pushed computer technology a lot and personally many of my computer upgrades were motivated to play the latest games.
I remember upgrading my PC for Duke3D from 4MB to 8MB, it cost me my entire paycheck.
Back then strict requirements made sense. Doubling anything made a huge difference. Not so much anymore. Today's AAA games do look marginally better than the AAA games of 5 years ago, but only marginally, and these slight improvements in fidelity have massive computational cost which directly results in worse performance.
https://i.imgur.com/MJ18XDN.png
Yeah, Quake 2 recommended a Pentium 133, and that was released two years earlier(the AMD equivalent was released only a year and a half before the game). It required a Pentium 90 which was three years old, but it didn't run smooth from what I remember.
That sort of requirement for a major component today would be considered self-sabotage for most non-vr pc games.
When games like Half-Life were released im pretty sure most people didnt have a 3d capable GPU
I remember very specifically not being able to play a game I was gifted because it needed at least 256mb of ram and the family computer only had 128mb.
I was extremely sad, then after months tried to push my parents to her a new computer. They say that the computer is supposed to have 256mb of ram.
After a while we realized that one of the ram sticks was not properly plugged in.
Yeah, imagine the games we could have if this had not stopped because of consoles.
Not saying it was a good development. Just saying it rapidly developed game graphics and systems.
Regarding the always online for singleplayer: https://stopkillinggames.com/
ya have to consider that game development back then was a hobby/new business venture and the corporations hadnt gotten its capitalist, profit-maximizing ray all over the process yet
just look at indies vs the usual story of how upper management gets in the way of development
Exaclty. I can find you an indie game in the last couple years for each top-line category. Well, except coding the entire game in assembly. I mean, it's a flex, but we just don't live in that world of necessity anymore.
That first one doesn't make any sense. Every processor has its own assembly language. The game would run on YOUR machine and any others running the same processors, but you'd have to build a custom version for any other processor you want to support.
That said, it could potentially be insanely well optimized for that platform if everything was hand coded.
That one is about Chris Sawyer. He'll remind people that there was a bit of C in there, but 99% x86 assembly / machine code in his words.
I think he only used C to build the installer. The rest was coded in x86 assembly.
Building anything in x86 assembly is a gargantuan effort, but then Chris Sawyer built a game on the same level of scale as RollerCoaster Tycoon...
There is some C in the game as well:
https://web.archive.org/web/20201108105209/http://www.chrissawyergames.com/faq3.htm
For anyone interested in why, C was new and didn't yet optimize to the same level that a clever and experienced human could optimize Assembly. IIRC, by the time he was developing Roller Coaster Tycoon, C compiler optimization was on par with human Assembly optimization, so it was the last notable game written entirely in Assembly for optimization purposes.
I think this was the video I watched where I learned this: https://youtu.be/0JouTsMQsEA
Imma need some context on that breastmilk one.
https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/15938/lactating-activision-blizzard-employees-detail-abuse-say-breast-milk-was-repeatedly-stolen
Jesus Christ thatโs horrible.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200623155037/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/23/style/women-gaming-streaming-harassment-sexism-twitch.html
I'm in love with the amount of different wojaks that are there these days.
There are like two at best
Just go to itch.io or newgrounds.com
just play indie
All of this seems like management/higer up decision to me
Big if true.
How the games back then looked:
https://europe.pub/pictrs/image/43cca74d-38e2-48f4-b2af-f4cf958ffc57.jpeg
Except that they are talking explicitly about games like Rollercoaster Tycoon and Doom. Full colored games with animations, soundtracks, the whole thing (and aged pretty well too, imo)
100% that. They are essentially selling a broken product, it is ridiculous.
๐ถits uncompressed asset time๐ถ
This is unfortunately very true. Thankfully there are a lot of great indie games that don't have this problem.