Once upon a time you came to America and helped us defeat a king.
Any chance you can come teach us how to protest? You folks seem to have perfected your technique.
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CherryBullets @lemmy.ca - 10mon
Step 1) Be entitled
Step 2) Have politicians whine that you're entitled
Step 3) Remind them physically that you're entitled to be entitled or they'll be sorry
Step 4) Profit
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Laurel Raven - 10mon
I feel like there should be a guillotine in there somewhere...
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CherryBullets @lemmy.ca - 10mon
Well, that's Step 3 in certain dire circumstances; except they end up sorry in hell. Most hope it never gets to that extreme.
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Laurel Raven - 10mon
I've been hoping it doesn't get to that extreme but the hope feels fainter every day
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marighost - 10mon
I've made fun of the French all my life for being smelly cowards, but perhaps we Americans are the smelly cowards.
Sorry France. Clearly you know how to get shit done.
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Glytch @lemmy.world - 10mon
We Americans have been propagandized all our lives to look down on the French, even before they whole "freedom fries" dumbfuckery.
We need to show them more respect.
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JustAnotherKay @lemmy.world - 10mon
I used to get into arguments about the "cowards" thing. Like yeah, they forfeit a time or two and lost a few fights. So have most countries, whether they let you know about it or not.
They have also been a global super power for at least as long as America has existed, or longer, depending on what you consider to be a super power. So yeah, they brushed up against a couple of rough patches in that time lol
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Glytch @lemmy.world - 10mon
They're also a big part of the reason America won the Revolutionary War in the first place.
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JustAnotherKay @lemmy.world - 10mon
A big part
I would argue America wouldn't exist without Frances aid, at least not in the form that it does now. Whether that was different founding fathers because of lives lost or still being an English colony one can only guess
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mjsaber - 10mon
I think France has won more wars than any other nation in history.
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KubeRoot - 10mon
I can tell you that the attitude in Poland is along the lines of "we had a defensive pact, but when we actually got attacked, France just refused to come and help, then promptly surrendered".
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JustAnotherKay @lemmy.world - 10mon
Poland has a very significantly better reason to think of France as cowards than America does lmao
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fibojoly @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
People need to remember that when France came to honor their pact to help Serbia, we all got WWI and Petain wasn't too keen on doing that again.
Not defending his decision because I don't think there is anything much more shameful than abandoning an ally being attacked, but it's important to maybe understand context.
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Camelbeard - 10mon
It's the same with other EU countries, NATO article 5 has been triggered once, after 911. We came to help and lost many soldiers in Afghanistan etc. Now Russia is a major thread to Europe and the US is actively helping Russia.
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P1k1e @lemmy.world - 10mon
The man speaks truth, perhaps we were lied to so we wouldn't look too closely at the united powerhouse of their working class
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MonkRome @lemmy.world - 10mon
On the other hand, in my admittedly short visit there, it seemed like the public sector was broken there. You have to summon a magical spirit to find out what day of the month the post office pretends to be open. You have to be currently on fire for the fire department to consider showing up to an emergency... Beautiful country, excellent food, but, I've never seen such a dysfunctional "developed" country. If I was a citizen I'd be pretty pissed all the time as well.
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Kahless @infosec.pub - 10mon
Yup, that's what it is all about. Divide and conquer. The consolidation of capitalism is happening globally. We are more than them. The only way for them to keep their stolen riches, is to put a wedge between everyone. Imho there is nothing more ridiculous and self harming than nationalism, classism and all of the other -isms.
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grue @lemmy.world - 10mon
Those folks have been militaristic badasses through history, from sacking Rome, to Jeanne d'Arc, to Napoleon, to the modern French Foreign Legion. But they make one tactical error with the Maginot Line, and everybody calls them "cowards," SMH.
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prole - 10mon
For real, France gets so much unwarranted hate. The US wouldn't exist without them.
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wolframhydroxide @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
To be fair, since we're talking about their historical militarism, we can definitively blame the French for being the reason English is so hard to learn and is an inconsistent, bad language all-around. Never forget 1066. Also, before we get the circlejerk going, let's remember that the French government plays dirty just like everyone else, like their insanely unethical nuclear testing in the pacific and their later state-directed terrorism against new Zealand in an attempt to continue said nuclear malfeasance.
ETA: (To be clear, as an american, I'd much rather be French right about now, but we need to be realistic. All humans are crappy in large groups when given unchecked power. I just want to be clear we should be hailing the French people, not the French government)
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fibojoly @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
There are still people here who were there for the Resistance.
That's the mentality you guys need to start adopting, because clearly the nice way hasn't worked so far.
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Hadriscus @lemm.ee - 10mon
I've never personally burnt a Tesla to the ground, afraid my citizenship may get revoked 🇫🇷
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Agent641 @lemmy.world - 10mon
There's still time 🙏
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QuantumSparkles @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Tbf they’re only smelly because they have better cheese than we do
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calcopiritus @lemmy.world - 10mon
As a Spaniard, France has witched it's place with America in my head.
You know america fucked up when it can overcome the implicit hatred towards your neighbor.
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borokov @lemmy.world - 10mon
We have a long history of complaining and resisting to quite anything, bad or good. And also cutting head from time to time.
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Ethalis @jlai.lu - 10mon
At this point burning cars is just as much part of french culture as the baguette
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Agent641 @lemmy.world - 10mon
The French national bird is a Molotov cocktail
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ZC3rr0r @lemmy.ca - 10mon
While you may be right, I still want to make sure the Finns get credit for naming these home made petrol bombs since the origin of the name is just so badass.
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Sjmarf - 10mon
molotov cockatiel*
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QuantumSparkles @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
I really like that this says “first” as if they’re immediately anticipating more
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latenightnoir @lemmy.world - 10mon
See?! Who needs a Military when your average population can be so conclusive!
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Revan343 @lemmy.ca - 10mon
I know what they meant, but I like the implication that it's only the first of many to be burned to the ground
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demizerone @lemmy.world - 10mon
I envy the French and their ability to fucking be disobedient.
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painfulasterisk1 @lemmy.ml - 10mon
Wow, that was an oversight of the Quality Department. Very likely that they allowed non-conforming batteries be installed in those vehicles. Oh well.
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Ceruleum @lemmy.wtf - 10mon
They overheat when you look at them too intensely.
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alxmg @slrpnk.net - 10mon
I'm loving France these days!
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hailey @lemm.ee - 10mon
For burning Elon's property?
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Saryn @lemmy.world - 10mon
No, for resisting fascism instead of kissing oligarchs' behinds in an attempt to ratioanlize immorality.
To some extent, we are all paralyzed by the immense complexity of the world and we all have two choices:
resist
give up, comply, and conform
Should we assume you've made your choice?
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krolden - 10mon
Yes
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alxmg @slrpnk.net - 10mon
For having very few hydrants 🤷♂️
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emerald - 10mon
Wait was it set on fire or did the Teslas "Just Do That" as they are known to
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excral @feddit.org - 10mon
In France and with Musk's actions it's "Teslas just do that" either way.
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Venus_Ziegenfalle @feddit.org - 10mon
Between the unrelenting protests and De Gaulle I'm very glad Germany gets to call France its ally these days
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Ledericas @lemm.ee - 10mon
a qoute from marge simpsons, the french can be unpredictable" one minute thier kissing your hand, the next they are chopping your head off"
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BoiBy @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Based
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DragonsInARoom @lemmy.world - 10mon
Rule!
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Herding Llamas - 10mon
I read a great comment on here from someone that destruction of Teslas on a lot is not the right tactic or is not as effective because of they simply get replaced (and more get made) and paid for with insurance money.
I read that spray painting personal Teslas is great for spreading the fear in media so that people don't buy one in the first place and they sit unsold on lots.
The orgional person that said it was much better with the points than me. Did anyone else see it / can link it it?
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prole - 10mon
Insurance isn't free.
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vrojak @feddit.org - 10mon
It also becomes more expensive if some damaging event just keeps happening.
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drunkpostdisaster @lemmy.world - 10mon
It gets more expensive regardless
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DragonTypeWyvern @midwest.social - 10mon
And then you take down the people insuring the Nazis and the Nazis
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Camelbeard - 10mon
Tesla probably pays a lot more for insurance these days. Insurance companies are pretty evil, that works against Tesla in this case.
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Lumiluz @slrpnk.net - 10mon
Yeah but if you burn the whole showroom gonna be awhile before you can even buy more to sell more Teslas anyway. Which would be a huge disincentive to try to sell Teslas again anyway.
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klu9 @lemmy.ca - 10mon
Buy a share in a publicly-traded insurance company.
At a shareholder meeting, ask if the company has factored increased political risk, vandalism, arson, third-party damage from arson, etc into its premium calculations for: Tesla owners; Tesla showrooms; Tesla charging stations; car parks that even have Teslas in them; any other conceivably exposed company or individual.
Repeat with every other insurance company.
Repeat said concerns in every other possible medium (is there a Lemmy community for insurance actuaries?)
Sit back and watch people and businesses scramble to avoid "the Tesla tax" of ever-increasing insurance premiums.
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MrFloppy @lemmy.world - 10mon
It's the same tactic as getting rid of pigeons. You don't destroy the eggs, you make them unusable (plaster eggs). Because destroyed eggs are immediately replaced by the pigeons with functioning eggs.
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duckworthy36 @lemm.ee - 10mon
Paint ball guns do some real damage to a cars finish. Happened to my car before Tesla existed and the paint sunk into the finish and was impossible to cover up.
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Herding Llamas - 10mon
In high-school some people froze their paintballs and it made dents. I would never suggest it.
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ToiletFlushShowerScream @lemmy.world - 10mon
Yes!
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Tailzse836 @lemm.ee - 10mon
Anyone surprised? The France don’t like Swasticars
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Devanismyname @lemmy.ca - 10mon
The fact I gotta wonder if people lit them on fire in they lit themselves on fire due to shitty design is telling of what kind of company it is.
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oldfart @lemm.ee - 10mon
The average French must have a huge carbon footprint with all that arson going on
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Droggelbecher @lemmy.world - 10mon
Any idea for eco friendly industrial sabotage? This is definitely purely hypothetical
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oldfart @lemm.ee - 10mon
Aren't bodies compostable?
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wolframhydroxide @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Like most meat, actually composting bodies would require a very hot composting temperature, constant mixing, and you'd want to put it through a grinder first, or else it won't properly mix. Especially in the case of bones, those really need to be ground down so they can properly decompose.
Hypothetically, of course.
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klu9 @lemmy.ca - 10mon
The clue is in the word: drop sabots/clogs into things.
Sabots/clogs are:
organic
renewable
recyclable
And they store, rather than release, carbon. The eco-friendliest sabotage is sabots!
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beveradb @lemm.ee - 10mon
...shoes? I must be missing something
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klu9 @lemmy.ca - 10mon
The legend about the origin of the word sabotage is that French workers being put out of a job by bosses installing new machinery would drop their wooden clogs (called "sabots" in French) into the machinery's gears, thus damaging it.
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beveradb @lemm.ee - 10mon
Oh cool, thanks for the explanation! I guess super glue in the charge port or something would work for a Tesla
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eletes @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Industrial sites probably need a lot of electricity, they might even have their own substation
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Hacksaw @lemmy.ca - 10mon
I think we're running out the possibility that all the cars caught fire at the same time too early!
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felykiosa @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Sometime im proud of my country
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Camelbeard - 10mon
In these crazy times we need to stick together and make sure they can't break us. 🇳🇱
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ShinkanTrain @lemmy.ml - 10mon
The Storming of the Asstille.
That's the best I can do
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Zoop @beehaw.org - 10mon
I like it! Solid effort. I love a good history reference pun.
Because I believe I've seen you make It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia references before, I feel obligated to share what popped in my head when I saw this post ('cause my goofy brain is always forcing connections to it): "I will burn you alive like the last bitch who crossed me!" & "Ya light ONE Tesla dealership on fire and everybody FREAKS OUT!" - The French, apparently. They're still hot!
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peterpan520 @feddit.org - 10mon
Here is the source:
Dozen Teslas torched outside French dealership: authorities
Toulouse (France) (AFP) – A dozen Teslas were torched in France in what authorities are treating as an arson attack, the prosecutor's office said Monday.
The prosecutor's office told AFP an investigation has been opened into Sunday night's attack on a dealership near the southern city of Toulouse which left eight cars burned out.
Another four cars were badly damaged amid evidence the blaze was "not at all accidental", said the prosecutor's office.
Philippe Guyot, mayor of the Toulouse suburb of Plaisance-du-Touch, told AFP firefighters had quickly determined that the cause of the blaze was criminal, adding the dealership premises had not been targeted.
A handful of anti-Tesla actions have occurred in Europe since Elon Musk's rapprochement with US President Donald Trump, his backing of European far-right parties and attacks on diversity.
Sales of Tesla cars halved year-on-year in January 2025 in Germany and France.
thisfro in 196
Fr(ule)ance 🇨🇵🔥
France,
Once upon a time you came to America and helped us defeat a king.
Any chance you can come teach us how to protest? You folks seem to have perfected your technique.
Step 1) Be entitled
Step 2) Have politicians whine that you're entitled
Step 3) Remind them physically that you're entitled to be entitled or they'll be sorry
Step 4) Profit
I feel like there should be a guillotine in there somewhere...
Well, that's Step 3 in certain dire circumstances; except they end up sorry in hell. Most hope it never gets to that extreme.
I've been hoping it doesn't get to that extreme but the hope feels fainter every day
I've made fun of the French all my life for being smelly cowards, but perhaps we Americans are the smelly cowards.
Sorry France. Clearly you know how to get shit done.
We Americans have been propagandized all our lives to look down on the French, even before they whole "freedom fries" dumbfuckery.
We need to show them more respect.
I used to get into arguments about the "cowards" thing. Like yeah, they forfeit a time or two and lost a few fights. So have most countries, whether they let you know about it or not.
They have also been a global super power for at least as long as America has existed, or longer, depending on what you consider to be a super power. So yeah, they brushed up against a couple of rough patches in that time lol
They're also a big part of the reason America won the Revolutionary War in the first place.
I would argue America wouldn't exist without Frances aid, at least not in the form that it does now. Whether that was different founding fathers because of lives lost or still being an English colony one can only guess
I think France has won more wars than any other nation in history.
I can tell you that the attitude in Poland is along the lines of "we had a defensive pact, but when we actually got attacked, France just refused to come and help, then promptly surrendered".
Poland has a very significantly better reason to think of France as cowards than America does lmao
People need to remember that when France came to honor their pact to help Serbia, we all got WWI and Petain wasn't too keen on doing that again.
Not defending his decision because I don't think there is anything much more shameful than abandoning an ally being attacked, but it's important to maybe understand context.
It's the same with other EU countries, NATO article 5 has been triggered once, after 911. We came to help and lost many soldiers in Afghanistan etc. Now Russia is a major thread to Europe and the US is actively helping Russia.
The man speaks truth, perhaps we were lied to so we wouldn't look too closely at the united powerhouse of their working class
On the other hand, in my admittedly short visit there, it seemed like the public sector was broken there. You have to summon a magical spirit to find out what day of the month the post office pretends to be open. You have to be currently on fire for the fire department to consider showing up to an emergency... Beautiful country, excellent food, but, I've never seen such a dysfunctional "developed" country. If I was a citizen I'd be pretty pissed all the time as well.
Yup, that's what it is all about. Divide and conquer. The consolidation of capitalism is happening globally. We are more than them. The only way for them to keep their stolen riches, is to put a wedge between everyone. Imho there is nothing more ridiculous and self harming than nationalism, classism and all of the other -isms.
Those folks have been militaristic badasses through history, from sacking Rome, to Jeanne d'Arc, to Napoleon, to the modern French Foreign Legion. But they make one tactical error with the Maginot Line, and everybody calls them "cowards," SMH.
For real, France gets so much unwarranted hate. The US wouldn't exist without them.
To be fair, since we're talking about their historical militarism, we can definitively blame the French for being the reason English is so hard to learn and is an inconsistent, bad language all-around. Never forget 1066. Also, before we get the circlejerk going, let's remember that the French government plays dirty just like everyone else, like their insanely unethical nuclear testing in the pacific and their later state-directed terrorism against new Zealand in an attempt to continue said nuclear malfeasance.
ETA: (To be clear, as an american, I'd much rather be French right about now, but we need to be realistic. All humans are crappy in large groups when given unchecked power. I just want to be clear we should be hailing the French people, not the French government)
There are still people here who were there for the Resistance.
That's the mentality you guys need to start adopting, because clearly the nice way hasn't worked so far.
I've never personally burnt a Tesla to the ground, afraid my citizenship may get revoked 🇫🇷
There's still time 🙏
Tbf they’re only smelly because they have better cheese than we do
As a Spaniard, France has witched it's place with America in my head.
You know america fucked up when it can overcome the implicit hatred towards your neighbor.
We have a long history of complaining and resisting to quite anything, bad or good. And also cutting head from time to time.
At this point burning cars is just as much part of french culture as the baguette
The French national bird is a Molotov cocktail
While you may be right, I still want to make sure the Finns get credit for naming these home made petrol bombs since the origin of the name is just so badass.
molotov cockatiel*
I really like that this says “first” as if they’re immediately anticipating more
See?! Who needs a Military when your average population can be so conclusive!
I know what they meant, but I like the implication that it's only the first of many to be burned to the ground
I envy the French and their ability to fucking be disobedient.
Wow, that was an oversight of the Quality Department. Very likely that they allowed non-conforming batteries be installed in those vehicles. Oh well.
They overheat when you look at them too intensely.
I'm loving France these days!
For burning Elon's property?
No, for resisting fascism instead of kissing oligarchs' behinds in an attempt to ratioanlize immorality.
To some extent, we are all paralyzed by the immense complexity of the world and we all have two choices:
Should we assume you've made your choice?
Yes
For having very few hydrants 🤷♂️
Wait was it set on fire or did the Teslas "Just Do That" as they are known to
In France and with Musk's actions it's "Teslas just do that" either way.
Between the unrelenting protests and De Gaulle I'm very glad Germany gets to call France its ally these days
a qoute from marge simpsons, the french can be unpredictable" one minute thier kissing your hand, the next they are chopping your head off"
Based
Rule!
I read a great comment on here from someone that destruction of Teslas on a lot is not the right tactic or is not as effective because of they simply get replaced (and more get made) and paid for with insurance money.
I read that spray painting personal Teslas is great for spreading the fear in media so that people don't buy one in the first place and they sit unsold on lots.
The orgional person that said it was much better with the points than me. Did anyone else see it / can link it it?
Insurance isn't free.
It also becomes more expensive if some damaging event just keeps happening.
It gets more expensive regardless
And then you take down the people insuring the Nazis and the Nazis
Tesla probably pays a lot more for insurance these days. Insurance companies are pretty evil, that works against Tesla in this case.
Yeah but if you burn the whole showroom gonna be awhile before you can even buy more to sell more Teslas anyway. Which would be a huge disincentive to try to sell Teslas again anyway.
It's the same tactic as getting rid of pigeons. You don't destroy the eggs, you make them unusable (plaster eggs). Because destroyed eggs are immediately replaced by the pigeons with functioning eggs.
Paint ball guns do some real damage to a cars finish. Happened to my car before Tesla existed and the paint sunk into the finish and was impossible to cover up.
In high-school some people froze their paintballs and it made dents. I would never suggest it.
Yes!
Anyone surprised? The France don’t like Swasticars
The fact I gotta wonder if people lit them on fire in they lit themselves on fire due to shitty design is telling of what kind of company it is.
The average French must have a huge carbon footprint with all that arson going on
Any idea for eco friendly industrial sabotage? This is definitely purely hypothetical
Aren't bodies compostable?
Like most meat, actually composting bodies would require a very hot composting temperature, constant mixing, and you'd want to put it through a grinder first, or else it won't properly mix. Especially in the case of bones, those really need to be ground down so they can properly decompose.
Hypothetically, of course.
The clue is in the word: drop sabots/clogs into things.
Sabots/clogs are:
And they store, rather than release, carbon. The eco-friendliest sabotage is sabots!
...shoes? I must be missing something
The legend about the origin of the word sabotage is that French workers being put out of a job by bosses installing new machinery would drop their wooden clogs (called "sabots" in French) into the machinery's gears, thus damaging it.
Oh cool, thanks for the explanation! I guess super glue in the charge port or something would work for a Tesla
Industrial sites probably need a lot of electricity, they might even have their own substation
I think we're running out the possibility that all the cars caught fire at the same time too early!
Sometime im proud of my country
In these crazy times we need to stick together and make sure they can't break us. 🇳🇱
The Storming of the Asstille.
That's the best I can do
I like it! Solid effort. I love a good history reference pun.
Because I believe I've seen you make It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia references before, I feel obligated to share what popped in my head when I saw this post ('cause my goofy brain is always forcing connections to it): "I will burn you alive like the last bitch who crossed me!" & "Ya light ONE Tesla dealership on fire and everybody FREAKS OUT!" - The French, apparently. They're still hot!
Here is the source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCxMBmKG-SE
They need to talk with the quality control department.
First as in first of many.