IDK about other people but it makes me feel sick to the stomach being federated with such content. I don't really have any problems with Lemm.ee as a whole but I feel like having an uncritical Nazi salute on the network goes against everything Blahaj stands for.
Ada - 10mon
I just saw a report on it and I've removed the post.
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StarlightDust - 10mon
Thanks. My concern is being federated with such a community in the first place. It is a shame there isn't a community-wide way to block just one community from an instance.
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Ada - 10mon
I can do that. The fact the mods left it up for so long is reason enough
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TheLowestStone - 10mon
Fun fact: That community's founder was banned from .world for spreading csam.
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buffysummers @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
That fact isn't very fun.
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Blastboom Strice - 10mon
I think we dont need conservative communities on lemmy, we can do without them
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some_guy @lemmy.sdf.org - 10mon
I think modern conservatism is a sign of deficient cognitive ability and lack of empathy, but I don’t think we should outright block them. That’s the sort of thing they advocate. If they’re celebrating a nazi salute, sure. Let’s get rid of them. But we should be better than they. Of course, this makes me sound like a lib when I’m actually a Leftist, but I’m just trying not to discriminate.
Rightwing people: you suck for delivering us this living hell.
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𝕊𝕞𝕒𝕔𝕜𝕖𝕞 𝕎𝕚𝕥𝕥𝕒𝕕𝕚𝕔 - 10mon
The biggest issue is that EVERY community they've formed in the past has ended up as nothing more than an echo chamber for them to justify their OWN views and eventually censoring ANY form of external input.
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The Quuuuuill - 10mon
maybe the key is forcing them to interact with regular people who don't like them, idk. i'm old and tired and getting older and tireder by the day. just force them to face consequences for their bullshit over and over until they get it. make a shitty community? disband the community. make a shitty meme? remove the shitty meme. be a shitty person? ban the shitty person.
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MelodiousFunk @slrpnk.net - 10mon
maybe the key is forcing them to interact with regular people who don't like them
Best I can give you is resigned condescension.
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The Quuuuuill - 10mon
dorks, all of them.
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gandalf_der_12te - 10mon
maybe the key is shooting them all to Mars.
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The Quuuuuill - 10mon
i mean sure, i'm down
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gandalf_der_12te - 10mon
Yeah i'm staying down here on Earth as well.
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𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙⚧ [She/Her] - 10mon
As someone who used to be stuck in that I couldn't agree more. It absolutely is a lack of empathy and cognitive ability, but also it persists because they think it's cool and accepted. I know that's why I followed it as long as I did. So I say block it. It doesn't do anyone any good and the less people see it the less they'll think its cool.
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PenguinCoder - 10mon
Alternative view points are good to have, don't want a echo chamber. That said, being a Nazi, supporting them, or attacking trans, LQBTQ folks isn't a difference of opinion ; it's a fundamental flaw of the far right, treating humans as less than such. That is not an agreeable stance.
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ImADifferentBird - 10mon
Honestly, modern conservatism is largely indistinguishable from Nazi-ism at this point anyway.
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𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙⚧ [She/Her] - 10mon
Modern conservatism is a cancer that deserves and needs to be squashed out. It has an outright dangerous and seductive quality to it. It took me years to get over it many people don't ever get out of it.
So echo chamber argument isn't a good one. If anything modern conservatism is itself an echo chamber, that squashes all opposing viewpoints.
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Brkdncr @lemmy.world - 10mon
I’m ok with conservatives that aren’t conspiracy-driven. They can’t seem to self-moderate though. Anti-vax, and odd religious beliefs that they choose to impose on others is where I would draw the line.
Lots of people on the AskConservatives sub reddit for instance are against a lot of what has occurred in the last month.
I don’t know how to possibly moderate a community like that.
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fadingembers - 10mon
I'm not. They're the ones outlawing abortion and trying to eliminate trans people. They're the ones that are okay with discrimination and bigotry. They're the ones okay with rounding up immigrants and sending them to camps. There is no reason to tolerate their intolerance and their ideology is based upon oppressing anyone that isn't male, rich, and white.
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dandelion (she/her) - 10mon
Are you OK with conservatives that are anti-LGBT+, for example? Conservative is an umbrella that includes a lot of bigotry, I'm not sure we should really pretend that is worth defending or tolerating, particularly with regards to the context of the pro-LGBT+ Blahaj instance, who hosts many people who are victimized by conservative ideology. Sure, conservative lemmy instances exist, but you are in the Blahaj meta community, and the question is how we should relate to those communities and instances that oppose our existence ...
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Heyting @lemmy.ml - 10mon
Conservatism is inherently anti-trans. I’d rather not have anyone on lemmy argue against my right to self determination.
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Brkdncr @lemmy.world - 10mon
A lot of conservatives don’t care about gender.
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Heyting @lemmy.ml - 10mon
‘Don’t care’ often means that they don’t want to acknowledge our existence and thus block measures that make our existence possible like trans healthcare or anti discrimination laws. Effectively it’s the same as being anti-trans.
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𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙⚧ [She/Her] - 10mon
That's not enough they have to be okay with or even in support of transgender rights. Not caring means they'll either do nothing or work against us. I will not stand for either.
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cm0002 @lemmy.world - 10mon
.world also has a Conservative comm just as disgusting as the .ee one
I don't know why neither has been removed, in both comms nearly every single post is well into the negatives haha
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SinningStromgald @lemmy.world - 10mon
Pretty sure a majority of .world blocks them or hate downvotes them.
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TheLowestStone - 10mon
I just reported that there's no moderation on that community.
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hungryphrog - 10mon
There is conservative community? On Lemmy?????
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zaphod @sopuli.xyz - 10mon
Several, just not very active.
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Goodmorningsunshine @lemmy.world - 10mon
That's how it starts
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afronaut @lemmy.cafe - 10mon
The point of the fediverse is that they have to maintain server costs on their own and the upside is we are not forced to swim in the same pool that they piss in if we don’t want to.
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hungryphrog - 10mon
what are conservatives doing on Lemmy anyways??
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RangerJosey @lemmy.ml - 10mon
That tracks.
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Chewget @lemm.ee - 10mon
Is lemm.ee conservative? I had no idea....... not sarcasm
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boonhet @lemm.ee - 10mon
Less conservative and more... Allows different opinions as long as they aren't outright dangerous.
Plenty of left leaning people on lemm.ee, myself included. Conservatives chose to make a community here because they felt it was a good place for freedom of speech, which it is. If you choose to create a socialist community, you're welcome too. If you're a tankie and say everyone from the Baltics deserves to be raped to death for leaving the Soviet union... Then we do not welcome you.
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ExFed - 10mon
Uhh I'm in the same boat... I wouldn't call myself a "conservative" ... I just was looking for an instance that wasn't completely full. If there's some Nazi shit going on here, I'm out.
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QuantumSparkles @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
I really thought all the blahaj communities were heavily left leaning. What was the community?
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Ada - 10mon
That’s not a blahaj community. It’s hosted on another instance.
In any case, the mods and poster are banned now, and the community has been blocked
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GeeDubHayduke @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 10mon
the mods and poster are banned now, and the community has been blocked
Huzzah!
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dandelion (she/her) - 10mon
I believe OP is talking about /c/conservative on the lemm.ee instance (not sure if I can share this, not intending to brigade, and I am intentionally not directly linking there)
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QuantumSparkles @sh.itjust.works - 10mon
Oh okay, because the way it’s formatted I thought it was a blahaj community and was really surprised
StarlightDust in main
Lemm.ee Conservative Community has had an Elon Nazi salute post up for two days now.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21955972IDK about other people but it makes me feel sick to the stomach being federated with such content. I don't really have any problems with Lemm.ee as a whole but I feel like having an uncritical Nazi salute on the network goes against everything Blahaj stands for.
I just saw a report on it and I've removed the post.
Thanks. My concern is being federated with such a community in the first place. It is a shame there isn't a community-wide way to block just one community from an instance.
I can do that. The fact the mods left it up for so long is reason enough
Fun fact: That community's founder was banned from .world for spreading csam.
That fact isn't very fun.
I think we dont need conservative communities on lemmy, we can do without them
I think modern conservatism is a sign of deficient cognitive ability and lack of empathy, but I don’t think we should outright block them. That’s the sort of thing they advocate. If they’re celebrating a nazi salute, sure. Let’s get rid of them. But we should be better than they. Of course, this makes me sound like a lib when I’m actually a Leftist, but I’m just trying not to discriminate.
Rightwing people: you suck for delivering us this living hell.
The biggest issue is that EVERY community they've formed in the past has ended up as nothing more than an echo chamber for them to justify their OWN views and eventually censoring ANY form of external input.
maybe the key is forcing them to interact with regular people who don't like them, idk. i'm old and tired and getting older and tireder by the day. just force them to face consequences for their bullshit over and over until they get it. make a shitty community? disband the community. make a shitty meme? remove the shitty meme. be a shitty person? ban the shitty person.
Best I can give you is resigned condescension.
dorks, all of them.
maybe the key is shooting them all to Mars.
i mean sure, i'm down
Yeah i'm staying down here on Earth as well.
As someone who used to be stuck in that I couldn't agree more. It absolutely is a lack of empathy and cognitive ability, but also it persists because they think it's cool and accepted. I know that's why I followed it as long as I did. So I say block it. It doesn't do anyone any good and the less people see it the less they'll think its cool.
Alternative view points are good to have, don't want a echo chamber. That said, being a Nazi, supporting them, or attacking trans, LQBTQ folks isn't a difference of opinion ; it's a fundamental flaw of the far right, treating humans as less than such. That is not an agreeable stance.
Honestly, modern conservatism is largely indistinguishable from Nazi-ism at this point anyway.
Modern conservatism is a cancer that deserves and needs to be squashed out. It has an outright dangerous and seductive quality to it. It took me years to get over it many people don't ever get out of it.
So echo chamber argument isn't a good one. If anything modern conservatism is itself an echo chamber, that squashes all opposing viewpoints.
I’m ok with conservatives that aren’t conspiracy-driven. They can’t seem to self-moderate though. Anti-vax, and odd religious beliefs that they choose to impose on others is where I would draw the line.
Lots of people on the AskConservatives sub reddit for instance are against a lot of what has occurred in the last month.
I don’t know how to possibly moderate a community like that.
I'm not. They're the ones outlawing abortion and trying to eliminate trans people. They're the ones that are okay with discrimination and bigotry. They're the ones okay with rounding up immigrants and sending them to camps. There is no reason to tolerate their intolerance and their ideology is based upon oppressing anyone that isn't male, rich, and white.
Are you OK with conservatives that are anti-LGBT+, for example? Conservative is an umbrella that includes a lot of bigotry, I'm not sure we should really pretend that is worth defending or tolerating, particularly with regards to the context of the pro-LGBT+ Blahaj instance, who hosts many people who are victimized by conservative ideology. Sure, conservative lemmy instances exist, but you are in the Blahaj meta community, and the question is how we should relate to those communities and instances that oppose our existence ...
Conservatism is inherently anti-trans. I’d rather not have anyone on lemmy argue against my right to self determination.
A lot of conservatives don’t care about gender.
‘Don’t care’ often means that they don’t want to acknowledge our existence and thus block measures that make our existence possible like trans healthcare or anti discrimination laws. Effectively it’s the same as being anti-trans.
That's not enough they have to be okay with or even in support of transgender rights. Not caring means they'll either do nothing or work against us. I will not stand for either.
.world also has a Conservative comm just as disgusting as the .ee one
I don't know why neither has been removed, in both comms nearly every single post is well into the negatives haha
Pretty sure a majority of .world blocks them or hate downvotes them.
I just reported that there's no moderation on that community.
There is conservative community? On Lemmy?????
Several, just not very active.
That's how it starts
The point of the fediverse is that they have to maintain server costs on their own and the upside is we are not forced to swim in the same pool that they piss in if we don’t want to.
what are conservatives doing on Lemmy anyways??
That tracks.
Is lemm.ee conservative? I had no idea....... not sarcasm
Less conservative and more... Allows different opinions as long as they aren't outright dangerous.
Plenty of left leaning people on lemm.ee, myself included. Conservatives chose to make a community here because they felt it was a good place for freedom of speech, which it is. If you choose to create a socialist community, you're welcome too. If you're a tankie and say everyone from the Baltics deserves to be raped to death for leaving the Soviet union... Then we do not welcome you.
Uhh I'm in the same boat... I wouldn't call myself a "conservative" ... I just was looking for an instance that wasn't completely full. If there's some Nazi shit going on here, I'm out.
I really thought all the blahaj communities were heavily left leaning. What was the community?
That’s not a blahaj community. It’s hosted on another instance.
In any case, the mods and poster are banned now, and the community has been blocked
Huzzah!
I believe OP is talking about /c/conservative on the lemm.ee instance (not sure if I can share this, not intending to brigade, and I am intentionally not directly linking there)
Oh okay, because the way it’s formatted I thought it was a blahaj community and was really surprised
Lemm.ee admin here. Sorry about that, y'all. We took further action and removed the mods from that community. More context in my post here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/22091983/12982889