TW: Suicide. Unnamed Trans veteran draped themselves in a trans flag, and committed suicide at a VA hospital. Only the local news seems to be saying anything.
Names are absent from the headlines today to a dehumanizing degree.
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samus12345 @lemm.ee - 11mon
I get it. Things seem pretty fucking hopeless right now. Wish she could have managed to stick around, though.
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blazeknave @lemmy.world - 11mon
Wish she wasn't murdered with social engineering
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b161 - 11mon
Every trans suicide is murder.
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moosetwin - 11mon
was not expecting a story from where I live to appear on lemmy
I don't read the local news very often so I don't know anything about this specific story, but the people here lean (slightly) conservative. Despite this, I haven't heard anyone talking about trans people negatively (at least by adults, I did hear a teen being an asshole though)
though also I haven't been out a lot since the government was taken over so I'd not be too surprised if transphobia has gotten worse here
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BallShapedMan @lemmy.world - 11mon
Pretty sure it's not a crime so the term "committed" doesn't fit.
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disguy_ovahea @lemmy.world - 11mon
It is a crime in most US states. If you find yourself hospitalized after a suicide attempt, you will be guarded around the clock until you’re well enough to be moved to a state psychiatric facility. You remain property of the state until release from said facility. You may petition the court to prove that you are stable enough for release, but you’ll likely be released before you see a judge.
Source: personal experience
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Cort @lemmy.world - 11mon
Iirc the phrase is based in religious thought that suicide is a sin or crime against God. Committing suicide or having committed suicide are commonly used, in USA English anyway.
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Zero22xx - 11mon
Yeah as far as I know that's the way it is in most western countries. A lot of our laws are based on Christianity. Along with every national public holiday being based on special Christian days. In places where they like to complain about how discriminated against and hard done by they are (while enjoying their freedom to openly discriminate against all flavours of queer people and anyone else they consider a heretic).
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WxFisch - 11mon
The term commonly accepted today is died by suicide. It takes into account that suicide is commonly tied to underlying mental health challenges and isn't necessarily a choice the victim made, but rather a lethal symptom of those mental health conditions.
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samus12345 @lemm.ee - 11mon
I've seen the term "completed" suicide.
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Sterile_Technique @lemmy.world - 11mon
Nursing student here - this is the current teaching/standard.
"Committed" is so hard wired that even the profs default to that in lecture (then immediately correct themselves), but this change is 100% to address the accusatory connotation of "committed".
....also, veteran here: WHAT THE FUCK, VA?! The VA has a history of not really giving a shit about politics and just providing patient care when it's needed. Vet needs an abortion deep in a red state? Suck a dick, red state, this is federal property and your laws don't mean shit here.
The VA I go to used to have trans and LGBTQ+ positive signage at every entrance basically saying "You served? Fuck yeah, you get the same level of care as every other vet!" ...then Agent Orange popped his DEI executive order, and all that stuff is gone. Just overnight full embrace to shun and gutpunch.
And while yes, culpability lies primarily with the shitstain squatting in the Oval Office, the admins and doctors at the VA have full-on violated their oaths as healthcare professionals by 'just following orders' here. And now they have a body count to show for it.
This country is an absolute disgrace.
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inv3r5ion @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 11mon
People get committed to their romantic partners all the time. You know, a wedding.
Commit means more than doing crime.
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pixeltree - 10mon
Out of curiosity, what word would you use instead of committed there?
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BallShapedMan @lemmy.world - 10mon
Died by suicide. Took their own life. Those are the most common I hear.
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pixeltree - 10mon
I haven't heard the first at all interestingly. I do prefer the second phrase
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BallShapedMan @lemmy.world - 10mon
It's easier to say for sure.
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Freefall @lemmy.world - 11mon
National news is likely waiting for a return call from Elon to see if it is ok if they mention this.
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Bojack411 @lemmy.world - 11mon
Lol. Don't be mad that they don't care. Be mad they let you get to this point. Dems and Republicans see what they feel are the bigger picture.
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TW: Suicide. Unnamed Trans veteran draped themselves in a trans flag, and committed suicide at a VA hospital. Only the local news seems to be saying anything.
https://www.syracuse.com/news/2025/01/va-patient-died-by-suicide-at-top-of-hospitals-garage-in-syracuse.htmlEDIT:
Her name was Elisa Rae Shupe.
You can read more about her from Erin's Bluesky Post and related article.
https://bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com/post/3lhwefbinn22c
Her name was Elisa Rae Shupe. You can read more about her from Erin's bluesky post and related article.
https://bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com/post/3lhwefbinn22c
Thank you.
Names are absent from the headlines today to a dehumanizing degree.
I get it. Things seem pretty fucking hopeless right now. Wish she could have managed to stick around, though.
Wish she wasn't murdered with social engineering
Every trans suicide is murder.
was not expecting a story from where I live to appear on lemmy
I don't read the local news very often so I don't know anything about this specific story, but the people here lean (slightly) conservative. Despite this, I haven't heard anyone talking about trans people negatively (at least by adults, I did hear a teen being an asshole though)
though also I haven't been out a lot since the government was taken over so I'd not be too surprised if transphobia has gotten worse here
Pretty sure it's not a crime so the term "committed" doesn't fit.
It is a crime in most US states. If you find yourself hospitalized after a suicide attempt, you will be guarded around the clock until you’re well enough to be moved to a state psychiatric facility. You remain property of the state until release from said facility. You may petition the court to prove that you are stable enough for release, but you’ll likely be released before you see a judge.
Source: personal experience
Iirc the phrase is based in religious thought that suicide is a sin or crime against God. Committing suicide or having committed suicide are commonly used, in USA English anyway.
Yeah as far as I know that's the way it is in most western countries. A lot of our laws are based on Christianity. Along with every national public holiday being based on special Christian days. In places where they like to complain about how discriminated against and hard done by they are (while enjoying their freedom to openly discriminate against all flavours of queer people and anyone else they consider a heretic).
The term commonly accepted today is died by suicide. It takes into account that suicide is commonly tied to underlying mental health challenges and isn't necessarily a choice the victim made, but rather a lethal symptom of those mental health conditions.
I've seen the term "completed" suicide.
Nursing student here - this is the current teaching/standard.
"Committed" is so hard wired that even the profs default to that in lecture (then immediately correct themselves), but this change is 100% to address the accusatory connotation of "committed".
....also, veteran here: WHAT THE FUCK, VA?! The VA has a history of not really giving a shit about politics and just providing patient care when it's needed. Vet needs an abortion deep in a red state? Suck a dick, red state, this is federal property and your laws don't mean shit here.
The VA I go to used to have trans and LGBTQ+ positive signage at every entrance basically saying "You served? Fuck yeah, you get the same level of care as every other vet!" ...then Agent Orange popped his DEI executive order, and all that stuff is gone. Just overnight full embrace to shun and gutpunch.
And while yes, culpability lies primarily with the shitstain squatting in the Oval Office, the admins and doctors at the VA have full-on violated their oaths as healthcare professionals by 'just following orders' here. And now they have a body count to show for it.
This country is an absolute disgrace.
People get committed to their romantic partners all the time. You know, a wedding.
Commit means more than doing crime.
Out of curiosity, what word would you use instead of committed there?
Died by suicide. Took their own life. Those are the most common I hear.
I haven't heard the first at all interestingly. I do prefer the second phrase
It's easier to say for sure.
National news is likely waiting for a return call from Elon to see if it is ok if they mention this.
Lol. Don't be mad that they don't care. Be mad they let you get to this point. Dems and Republicans see what they feel are the bigger picture.