The "trolling" ban wasn't over neopronouns, it was for encouraging suicide on an alt account. Multiple times.
Also encouraging violence.
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
Yeah that Drag guy was a bad actor in my book, as well.
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tfw_no_toiletpaper @lemmy.world - 12mon
Apparently there was a huge deal I didn't notice? Had this person blocked because there constantly were (very obvious) troll comments that caught my eye and I started to notice it was always the same account. Went to profile, info text said like
Drag likes to "ride" dragons
Yeah at this point I just blocked them 😂
I bet they just wanted to test how long this would be tolerated on the instance
Edit: Also OP's only comments and posts all seem to be related to drag, maybe this is the next alt lmao
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Newbuild (bot/thing) - 12mon
Do you got proof that it was an alt account or smth? How do you know?
EDIT: Said on the modlog banned for trolling. You trying to hide something?
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A_Very_Big_Fan @lemmy.world - 12mon
Well, one instance of it was on their main account, so it doesn't matter that much. (Sry about the SC quality)
I wasn't the one who issued the ban so I can't say for sure, but IIRC the reasoning was that both accounts spoke in Drag's unique way. That and by all appearances the account seems to have been made specifically to harass a user Drag was beefing with at the time.
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Newbuild (bot/thing) - 12mon
It was meant to be "Do this obviously exxagerated thing, or try your best to persist." It was anti-suicide
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glizzyguzzler - 12mon
this got alt acc vibes, def too crabbo to be a coincidence. Perp up top got it right
I don't see where you're getting the "or try your best to persist" part from. But even if there was, that still wouldn't be an excuse for that kind of rhetoric. Absolutely not okay.
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
oh ew this was an airing grievance post and wasn’t just a silly meme :( now im sad
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
Anybody can view the modlog.
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
I'm just saying OP doesn't necessarily have to be personally affected to make a meme about a specific recent issue.
They probably were, though.
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
oh dat makes sense i was hella #confused
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
I feel it
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Newbuild (bot/thing) - 12mon
'Twas both!
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
Honestly, personally, Drag does stand out as a POS to me. One of those folks who incite violence on the regular.
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Omega - 12mon
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
imagine explaining this irreparably convoluted joke to an ancient greek philosopher
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Count Regal Inkwell - 12mon
This post would instantly kill a medieval peasant
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
I think they'd get it after a little supplementary media. I don't know how much they would approve of, but they would get it.
The opposite would be true for soldiers of the time. They would approve but they probably wouldn't get it.
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
i think plenty of greek soldiers were actually well educated iirc
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
I just don't imagine a dude who spent 20 years thrusting spears near the mediterranean as very adaptable or imaginative. They'd spend the first week in the future in shock.
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osaerisxero - 12mon
Only if they couldn't find somewhere to thrust their spear 😏
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spujb @lemmy.cafe - 12mon
like you wouldn’t spend your first week in the past the same way ;)
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finitebanjo @lemmy.world - 12mon
I'm in 2025 and yeah theres definitely some long term shock, crippling fear of the world.
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Count Regal Inkwell - 12mon
Hey
They didn't just thrust spears
They also thrust their "spears" into their battle-brothers
Greek soldiers were SUPER GAY.
What I'm saying is -- If a lost hoplite ever found themselves in the 21st century, alllllll you'd need to do. Is point them to the nearest gym. They'd bond with the local queer gymbros and IMMEDIATELY feel right at home.
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TriflingToad @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
tbh I feel like Greek philosophers would be surprisingly chill about someone being called drag.
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Count Regal Inkwell - 12mon
One of them is only known to history by his literal wrestler alias, because he was a wrestler before he became a philosopher.
Greek philosophers would be more perturbed by the fact that we don't have slavery (/DO have automaton slaves for a lot of jobs but DON'T spend 99% of the day fucking around, and instead just keep producing more and more useless shit) than anything related to our jokes and memes.
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megopie - 12mon
Got banned for harassment not pronouns. Simple as. Piss off.
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LuckingFurker (Any/All) - 12mon
I can't believe we're still doing this, I fucking hate social media
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KyuubiNoKitsune - 12mon
I don't understand why people get so invested in this bullshit.
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LuckingFurker (Any/All) - 12mon
Just for clarification: we absolutely should be respecting people's pronouns, I am exhausted about the whole fucking discourse about one user who is clearly a troll. We can respect the trolls pronouns but can we please shut the fuck up about the troll?
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Roflmasterbigpimp - 12mon
Drag is it you again?
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Default_Defect @midwest.social - 12mon
Half of this website bending over backwards to make sure not to accidentally use the wrong pronouns of someone who is clearly a troll acting in bad faith and encouraged suicide.
Wacky.
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megopie - 12mon
Two separate things.
One is a matter of principle about not herassing people over chosen identities, regardless of how odd they are.
Another is them breaking rules that warrant a ban.
The second does not invalidate the first. And lumping the first in with the second devalues the second.
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sem - 12mon
If a troll gets a kick out of seeing their preferred trolly pronouns used while being banned for other stuff, then that's a price in willing to pay to respect people generally.
This answers a lot and yet nothing at all. Thanks :>
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megopie - 12mon
Drag’s a user with weird neopronouns and got upset when people didn’t use them. This started ‘discourse’ about not intentionally misgendering people just because you don’t like them, even if they use weird Neo-pronouns.
Also went around telling people to off them selves. Got banned for it.
ravahn2020 in 196
[Rule]r of Everything
The "trolling" ban wasn't over neopronouns, it was for encouraging suicide on an alt account. Multiple times.
Also encouraging violence.
Yeah that Drag guy was a bad actor in my book, as well.
Apparently there was a huge deal I didn't notice? Had this person blocked because there constantly were (very obvious) troll comments that caught my eye and I started to notice it was always the same account. Went to profile, info text said like
Yeah at this point I just blocked them 😂
I bet they just wanted to test how long this would be tolerated on the instance
Edit: Also OP's only comments and posts all seem to be related to drag, maybe this is the next alt lmao
Do you got proof that it was an alt account or smth? How do you know?
EDIT: Said on the modlog banned for trolling. You trying to hide something?
Well, one instance of it was on their main account, so it doesn't matter that much. (Sry about the SC quality)
I wasn't the one who issued the ban so I can't say for sure, but IIRC the reasoning was that both accounts spoke in Drag's unique way. That and by all appearances the account seems to have been made specifically to harass a user Drag was beefing with at the time.
It was meant to be "Do this obviously exxagerated thing, or try your best to persist." It was anti-suicide
this got alt acc vibes, def too crabbo to be a coincidence. Perp up top got it right
https://files.catbox.moe/a3by1j.jpeg
I don't see where you're getting the "or try your best to persist" part from. But even if there was, that still wouldn't be an excuse for that kind of rhetoric. Absolutely not okay.
oh ew this was an airing grievance post and wasn’t just a silly meme :( now im sad
Anybody can view the modlog.
jesse what the fuck are you talking about
I'm just saying OP doesn't necessarily have to be personally affected to make a meme about a specific recent issue.
They probably were, though.
oh dat makes sense i was hella #confused
I feel it
'Twas both!
Honestly, personally, Drag does stand out as a POS to me. One of those folks who incite violence on the regular.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
imagine explaining this irreparably convoluted joke to an ancient greek philosopher
This post would instantly kill a medieval peasant
I think they'd get it after a little supplementary media. I don't know how much they would approve of, but they would get it.
The opposite would be true for soldiers of the time. They would approve but they probably wouldn't get it.
i think plenty of greek soldiers were actually well educated iirc
I just don't imagine a dude who spent 20 years thrusting spears near the mediterranean as very adaptable or imaginative. They'd spend the first week in the future in shock.
Only if they couldn't find somewhere to thrust their spear 😏
like you wouldn’t spend your first week in the past the same way ;)
I'm in 2025 and yeah theres definitely some long term shock, crippling fear of the world.
Hey
They didn't just thrust spears
They also thrust their "spears" into their battle-brothers
Greek soldiers were SUPER GAY.
What I'm saying is -- If a lost hoplite ever found themselves in the 21st century, alllllll you'd need to do. Is point them to the nearest gym. They'd bond with the local queer gymbros and IMMEDIATELY feel right at home.
tbh I feel like Greek philosophers would be surprisingly chill about someone being called drag.
One of them is only known to history by his literal wrestler alias, because he was a wrestler before he became a philosopher.
Greek philosophers would be more perturbed by the fact that we don't have slavery (/DO have automaton slaves for a lot of jobs but DON'T spend 99% of the day fucking around, and instead just keep producing more and more useless shit) than anything related to our jokes and memes.
Got banned for harassment not pronouns. Simple as. Piss off.
I can't believe we're still doing this, I fucking hate social media
I don't understand why people get so invested in this bullshit.
Just for clarification: we absolutely should be respecting people's pronouns, I am exhausted about the whole fucking discourse about one user who is clearly a troll. We can respect the trolls pronouns but can we please shut the fuck up about the troll?
Drag is it you again?
Half of this website bending over backwards to make sure not to accidentally use the wrong pronouns of someone who is clearly a troll acting in bad faith and encouraged suicide.
Wacky.
Two separate things.
One is a matter of principle about not herassing people over chosen identities, regardless of how odd they are.
Another is them breaking rules that warrant a ban.
The second does not invalidate the first. And lumping the first in with the second devalues the second.
If a troll gets a kick out of seeing their preferred trolly pronouns used while being banned for other stuff, then that's a price in willing to pay to respect people generally.
Exactly
Say what
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/3dd84e34-c2fe-48f7-be49-de21315080c3.png
Hiccup is a dragon rider
This answers a lot and yet nothing at all. Thanks :>
Drag’s a user with weird neopronouns and got upset when people didn’t use them. This started ‘discourse’ about not intentionally misgendering people just because you don’t like them, even if they use weird Neo-pronouns.
Also went around telling people to off them selves. Got banned for it.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/20101267
Can we please, please, PLEASE stop with the dramaposting
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