Children born between next Wednesday and Friday will be designated "generation cd-dvd" closely followed by those born the following week who will be called "generation noombers".
The media will focus tightly on how these two groups, born mere hours apart can be entirely characterised in general terms that don't consider geographic, social, economic, or race discrepancies and will set them against each other in a bitter feud that includes housing availability and which slang is the best slang.
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Letstakealook @lemm.ee - 12mon
One of the many avenues upon which they have divided and conquered us. I don't say this as if I'm above it. Your comment gave me a moment of reflection.
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nomy @lemmy.zip - 12mon
There's no war but the class war.
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Rose Thorne(She/Her) - 12mon
Just means they'll be further developed. I hope.
These devs kinda suck.
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qyron - 12mon
Allow me a suggestion: how about stopping labelling people based on the year of their birth?
Better yet: how about we leave labelling for packaged products?
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WIZARD POPE💫 - 12mon
You got it wrong we need to start packaging people.
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qyron - 12mon
Too much wrong on that sentence for me to want to engage it.
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irelephant [he/him]🍭 - 12mon
Real.
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meep_launcher @lemm.ee - 12mon
Fun fact, putting people in boxes is a horrible way to treat people, is dehumanizing, and doesn't get an accurate look at individuals and their motives.
Fun fact, putting people in boxes is what companies and governments do in order to organize their marketing efforts to try and sell to specific demographics or to get elected.
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Gladaed @feddit.org - 12mon
Putting people in rough boxes can help you discover things about them. You merely have to remember that it is an approximation and does not describe real humans.
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Gork @lemm.ee - 12mon
What happens when we get to the end of the Greek alphabet? Do we adopt a spreadsheet type notation AA-AZ? Generation Alpha Alpha?
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UnderpantsWeevil @lemmy.world - 12mon
What happens when we get to the end of the Greek alphabet?
That's something for Gen Φ or Χ to worry about, sometime in the year 2420. If humanity makes it that far, it feels like a very minor concern.
More likely we just won't be using this archaic technology for generational cohorts by then, because we'll be using Esperanto or Universal Standard Hindi or Mandarin.
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KSP Atlas - 12mon
Reminder that esperanto is a bad IAL due to being based almost entirely on European languages, having a phoneme Inventory based off one of the languages Zamenhof happened to speak and having an agglutinative grammar that would be unfamiliar and difficult to many people
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Obi @sopuli.xyz - 12mon
You clearly know much more than I do about it but yeah I always heard Esperanto was a poor attempt.
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UnderpantsWeevil @lemmy.world - 12mon
esperanto is a bad IAL due to being based almost entirely on European languages
It's great as a European communal language for this reason.
As a bridge to an IAL it's significantly easier to train and maintain than the current standard of English.
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KSP Atlas - 12mon
That is true, but it should be branded as such, not as an international language, localized auxillary languages can be great, see Interslavic as an example
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drspod @lemmy.ml - 12mon
we started at X, so we could go back and do A-W
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circuitfarmer - 12mon
Then they get named after corporate sponsors.
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Gork @lemm.ee - 12mon
Generation Mountain Dew® Baja Blast™
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circuitfarmer - 12mon
Generation Rockstar and Generation Monster will probably be at odds with each other... and themselves.
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queermunist she/her - 12mon
Don't worry.
We won't get that far.
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ɯᴉuoʇuɐ - 12mon
They can switch to Cyrillic: az, buki, vedi, glagol', dobro... Then Futhark, and so on, there's no lack of alphabet systems out there. The preference for Greek is kind of lazy.
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Skua - 12mon
Personally I vote for using Mkhedruli letters (for writing the Georgian language) solely because that script looks cool
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Midnitte @beehaw.org - 12mon
How you gonna not provide an example?
მხედრული
I vote for cuneiform:
𒀱
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NeatoBuilds @mander.xyz - 12mon
An avid cunnilinguist i see
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NIB @lemmy.world - 12mon
Actually there are greek numerals, which are basically the greek letters(with some weird additions)
Maybe just call them Omega. By 2039, the reasons should be apparent.
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JimVanDeventer @lemmy.world - 12mon
How did we get so lazy about labeling generations? It's not like we've been crunched for time. How about gen skibidi?
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irelephant [he/him]🍭 - 12mon
I think we should circle back to generation x, in light of recent events
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festnt @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
is this some sort of joke im too not from the us to understand
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irelephant [he/him]🍭 - 12mon
I'm not from the US either.
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festnt @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
oh ok, thanks for explaining
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UnderpantsWeevil @lemmy.world - 12mon
Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we're out of beta, we're releasing on time
So i'm glad, I got burned
Think of all the things we learned
For the people who are still alive
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ElcaineVolta - 12mon
we do what we can, because we must.
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festnt @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
for the us of all of good
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Leate_Wonceslace @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 12mon
Aren't generations separated by 30ish years?
This is a farce.
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Hawke @lemmy.world - 12mon
I’ve heard 20. Wikipedia says 20-30.
14 seems short.
It’s all kind of silly since human reproduction is continuous.
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Boomer Humor Doomergod - 12mon
It's a bit like the notions of pre-modern, modern, and post-modern. The change was continuous over a long period of time, but I think there are commonalities of thought and experience that tie generations together. Pearl Harbor, the Vietnam War, the fall of the Berlin Wall, 9/11; all of those influenced people of different ages at the time in different ways, compounding on each other.
The perspective of someone who was 18 on 9/11/2001 was different from someone who was 35, versus someone who was 50, versus someone who was 80. My kids, for example, have never known the WTC as anything other than an attack site, and recoiled when the NYC skyline was shown during New Year's Rockin' Eve 1999.
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Hawke @lemmy.world - 12mon
Exactly.
It’s that shift in perspective and experience that defines a generation and there are generation-bounding events like 9/11. But the period of time is not precise, and generally much longer than 14 years.
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imPastaSyndrome @lemm.ee - 12mon
Continuous? Then why do i keep releasing a series of humo-eggs every 20 years?
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swab148 - 12mon
Have you tried not doing that?
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imPastaSyndrome @lemm.ee - 12mon
Wait why wouldn't I?
Should I not be?
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swab148 - 12mon
Nah it's whatever, you do you boo
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rtxn @lemmy.world - 12mon
My paranoid side says it's likely the seed of another "us vs. them" situation, like how boomers are blaming every wrong in the world on millenials.
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:3 3: :3 3: :3 3: :3 - 12mon
Weren't they defined by major cultural events? Zoomers not remembering 9/11 for example
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Leate_Wonceslace @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 12mon
The short answer is "no." The long answer is:
The boomers were defined by a demographic shift and the millennials (gen y, because Y comes after X and also because "y2k" ) were defined by being young-ish around New year's day 2000. Meanwhile X, z, α, and allegedly now "β" are just arbitrary postmarks who's locations are malleable and variable by the person you're talking to.
This is one of those cultural things that I tend to get grump and annoyed about because it's stupid and people pretend that it's real.
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Takumidesh @lemmy.world - 12mon
This is why people 'forget about gen x' imo, it's because there wasn't a single cultural event that aligned people in the gap between boomers (the baby boom, which resulted in a lot of people being a similar age to form a cohort) and millennials (wide spread access to rapidly developing internet, 9/11, and the dot com bubble happening during formative years)
That's just my opinion though, I know lots of stuff happened in that time, but I think those examples are standout events. (This is my perspective from the US, so things like the Berlin wall, I think had a less significant immediate effect on people here, culturally)
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superkret @feddit.org - 12mon
Gen X had their formative years at the height of the cold war, when it felt like the world could end at any moment due to a dumb mistake.
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queermunist she/her - 12mon
I thought it was 20ish years i.e. the average time it takes for babies to reach adulthood and have kids.
Although to be fair I don't actually know what the average is. It might be 30 for all I know lol
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HertzDentalBar - 12mon
Will we go Generation Cuck next?
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Quadhammer @lemmy.world - 12mon
Dad was a beta son was a cuck. This is how they led a nation
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HertzDentalBar - 12mon
Oh lord, I just pictured trump and Jr.
Jrs whining about how his dad doesn't love him because he's just a cuck.
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Chris Lowles - 12mon
When Generation Stable comes around in 2040 and ironically has the most incomprehensible memes yet.
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josefo @leminal.space - 12mon
The one after beta is release candidate, after that you get stable
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festnt @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
please make the next one be "release" and not just the third letter of a random alphabet
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SkunkWorkz @lemmy.world - 12mon
And the one after that will be Gen RTM (release to manufacturing) since they will be born in an artificial womb in a factory.
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festnt @sh.itjust.works - 12mon
huh, i thought it was going to be DLC
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superkret @feddit.org - 12mon
I can't wait for generation Stable.
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bdonvr @thelemmy.club - 12mon
There's no official designation, it's more gradual than that
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IzzyScissor @lemmy.world - 12mon
Their bedtime story to play on repeat while they sleep:
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta."
(Brave New World for those who don't immediately get the reference.)
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SoyaSuki @lemmy.ml - 12mon
I did not know that Brave New World was Omegaverse. Now I actually want to read it!
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pewgar_seemsimandroid - 12mon
generation beetroot
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CitizenKong @lemmy.world - 12mon
Looking a the inescapable progression of climate change they will probably be Generation "Aw, crap, I hate every generation before me"
Irelephant in 196
rule
Children born between next Wednesday and Friday will be designated "generation cd-dvd" closely followed by those born the following week who will be called "generation noombers".
The media will focus tightly on how these two groups, born mere hours apart can be entirely characterised in general terms that don't consider geographic, social, economic, or race discrepancies and will set them against each other in a bitter feud that includes housing availability and which slang is the best slang.
One of the many avenues upon which they have divided and conquered us. I don't say this as if I'm above it. Your comment gave me a moment of reflection.
There's no war but the class war.
Just means they'll be further developed. I hope.
These devs kinda suck.
Allow me a suggestion: how about stopping labelling people based on the year of their birth?
Better yet: how about we leave labelling for packaged products?
You got it wrong we need to start packaging people.
Too much wrong on that sentence for me to want to engage it.
Real.
Fun fact, putting people in boxes is a horrible way to treat people, is dehumanizing, and doesn't get an accurate look at individuals and their motives.
Fun fact, putting people in boxes is what companies and governments do in order to organize their marketing efforts to try and sell to specific demographics or to get elected.
Putting people in rough boxes can help you discover things about them. You merely have to remember that it is an approximation and does not describe real humans.
What happens when we get to the end of the Greek alphabet? Do we adopt a spreadsheet type notation AA-AZ? Generation Alpha Alpha?
That's something for Gen Φ or Χ to worry about, sometime in the year 2420. If humanity makes it that far, it feels like a very minor concern.
More likely we just won't be using this archaic technology for generational cohorts by then, because we'll be using Esperanto or Universal Standard Hindi or Mandarin.
Reminder that esperanto is a bad IAL due to being based almost entirely on European languages, having a phoneme Inventory based off one of the languages Zamenhof happened to speak and having an agglutinative grammar that would be unfamiliar and difficult to many people
You clearly know much more than I do about it but yeah I always heard Esperanto was a poor attempt.
It's great as a European communal language for this reason.
As a bridge to an IAL it's significantly easier to train and maintain than the current standard of English.
That is true, but it should be branded as such, not as an international language, localized auxillary languages can be great, see Interslavic as an example
we started at X, so we could go back and do A-W
Then they get named after corporate sponsors.
Generation Mountain Dew® Baja Blast™
Generation Rockstar and Generation Monster will probably be at odds with each other... and themselves.
Don't worry.
We won't get that far.
They can switch to Cyrillic: az, buki, vedi, glagol', dobro... Then Futhark, and so on, there's no lack of alphabet systems out there. The preference for Greek is kind of lazy.
Personally I vote for using Mkhedruli letters (for writing the Georgian language) solely because that script looks cool
How you gonna not provide an example?
I vote for cuneiform:
An avid cunnilinguist i see
Actually there are greek numerals, which are basically the greek letters(with some weird additions)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_numerals
So you can go up to any number you want.
probably hebrew
must be true, the account is verified
no community note
Maybe just call them Omega. By 2039, the reasons should be apparent.
How did we get so lazy about labeling generations? It's not like we've been crunched for time. How about gen skibidi?
I think we should circle back to generation x, in light of recent events
is this some sort of joke im too not from the us to understand
I'm not from the US either.
oh ok, thanks for explaining
Now these points of data make a beautiful line
And we're out of beta, we're releasing on time
So i'm glad, I got burned
Think of all the things we learned
For the people who are still alive
we do what we can, because we must.
for the us of all of good
Aren't generations separated by 30ish years?
This is a farce.
I’ve heard 20. Wikipedia says 20-30.
14 seems short.
It’s all kind of silly since human reproduction is continuous.
It's a bit like the notions of pre-modern, modern, and post-modern. The change was continuous over a long period of time, but I think there are commonalities of thought and experience that tie generations together. Pearl Harbor, the Vietnam War, the fall of the Berlin Wall, 9/11; all of those influenced people of different ages at the time in different ways, compounding on each other.
The perspective of someone who was 18 on 9/11/2001 was different from someone who was 35, versus someone who was 50, versus someone who was 80. My kids, for example, have never known the WTC as anything other than an attack site, and recoiled when the NYC skyline was shown during New Year's Rockin' Eve 1999.
Exactly.
It’s that shift in perspective and experience that defines a generation and there are generation-bounding events like 9/11. But the period of time is not precise, and generally much longer than 14 years.
Continuous? Then why do i keep releasing a series of humo-eggs every 20 years?
Have you tried not doing that?
Wait why wouldn't I?
Should I not be?
Nah it's whatever, you do you boo
My paranoid side says it's likely the seed of another "us vs. them" situation, like how boomers are blaming every wrong in the world on millenials.
Weren't they defined by major cultural events? Zoomers not remembering 9/11 for example
The short answer is "no." The long answer is:
This is one of those cultural things that I tend to get grump and annoyed about because it's stupid and people pretend that it's real.
This is why people 'forget about gen x' imo, it's because there wasn't a single cultural event that aligned people in the gap between boomers (the baby boom, which resulted in a lot of people being a similar age to form a cohort) and millennials (wide spread access to rapidly developing internet, 9/11, and the dot com bubble happening during formative years)
That's just my opinion though, I know lots of stuff happened in that time, but I think those examples are standout events. (This is my perspective from the US, so things like the Berlin wall, I think had a less significant immediate effect on people here, culturally)
Gen X had their formative years at the height of the cold war, when it felt like the world could end at any moment due to a dumb mistake.
I thought it was 20ish years i.e. the average time it takes for babies to reach adulthood and have kids.
Although to be fair I don't actually know what the average is. It might be 30 for all I know lol
Will we go Generation Cuck next?
Dad was a beta son was a cuck. This is how they led a nation
Oh lord, I just pictured trump and Jr.
Jrs whining about how his dad doesn't love him because he's just a cuck.
When Generation Stable comes around in 2040 and ironically has the most incomprehensible memes yet.
The one after beta is release candidate, after that you get stable
please make the next one be "release" and not just the third letter of a random alphabet
And the one after that will be Gen RTM (release to manufacturing) since they will be born in an artificial womb in a factory.
huh, i thought it was going to be DLC
I can't wait for generation Stable.
There's no official designation, it's more gradual than that
Their bedtime story to play on repeat while they sleep:
"Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I don't work so hard. And then we are much better than the Gammas and Deltas. Gammas are stupid. They all wear green, and Delta children wear khaki. Oh no, I don't want to play with Delta children. And Epsilons are still worse. They're too stupid to be able to read or write. Besides they wear black, which is such a beastly color. I'm so glad I'm a Beta."
(Brave New World for those who don't immediately get the reference.)
I did not know that Brave New World was Omegaverse. Now I actually want to read it!
generation beetroot
Looking a the inescapable progression of climate change they will probably be Generation "Aw, crap, I hate every generation before me"
That's not fair. Why not a generation Beti? /s