ID: image titled "Health Insurance CEOS and their pay:" above 8 photos of the CEO
Cigna, DAVID CORDANI $21M
WellCare, MICHAEL CARSON $23.5M
Humana, BRUCE BROUSSARD $16.3 M
CENTENE Corporation, SARAH LONDON $18.6 M
MOLINA HEALTHCARE, JOSEPH ZUBRETSKY $21.4 M
CVS Health, KAREN LYNCH $21.6 M
Elevance Health, GAIL BOUDREAUX $21.9 M
United Healthcare, BRIAN THOMPSON $10.2 M
sad_detective_man - 1.1yr
woah that's so crazy. I've got this DIY submarine they should come ride in
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
I'd donate to that crowd-funding 👍
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phoneymouse @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
I think it’s more about denied claims. UHC denies more than 30% of claims whereas most other insurers range between 10-20%. UHC denies the most claims by a big margin. This is likely to make you some enemies.
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Elizabeth - 1.1yr
10-20 percent is still insanely high, considering the amount of cases were taking about here. Even just one percent would be thousands suffering for no better reason than profits.
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Simulation6 @sopuli.xyz - 1.1yr
I think we need to accept that there are some fraudulent claims filed that should be denied. I have no idea what the percentage is or how to determine it, but I would think it is below 10%, probably below 5%.
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Passerby6497 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Man, think about how much better the world would be if insurance companies were automatically audited with greater than 5% denials.
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blarth @thelemmy.club - 1.1yr
What a fantastic idea. You should run for office.
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
I see zero reason for it to not be both. These people are all your enemy, as is everyone above them in the chain.
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uis @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
UHC denies more than 30% of claims
Universal healthcare denies claims? What?
...
...
Core dumped
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StupidBrotherInLaw @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
United Healthcare.
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Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼 - 1.1yr
Segmentation fault
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uis @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
French know how to segment
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ShaggySnacks @lemmy.myserv.one - 1.1yr
I like how the United Healthcare CEO is greyed out like a completed boss in Mega Man.
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Notyou @sopuli.xyz - 1.1yr
Well shit. Who's the secret boss after they all get greyed out then?
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100_kg_90_de_belin - 1.1yr
Capitalism
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JayObey711 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
It's a double boss fight with Adam Smith and John Locke
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100_kg_90_de_belin - 1.1yr
We have Marx and Engels
1
Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼 - 1.1yr
Donald Trump
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evidences @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
This photo is notably missing Andrew Witty the CEO of UnitedHealth Group the parent company of UnitedHealthcare of which Brian Thompson was CEO. Andrew Witty made $23.5m last year.
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YonderEpochs - 1.1yr
I bet that guy is finding sleep elusive.
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PersnickityPenguin @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
He probably has 10-15 federal Marshalls outside his bedroom as we speak, pulling guard duty.
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modifier - 1.1yr
On our dime.
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gothic_lemons @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
For sure, but I'd like to believe there is a fresh new fear in their minds. Kinda like what if the doc finds something serious and I go bankrupt from the treatment.
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Zier - 1.1yr
I hope his request for sleeping pills gets denied by his insurance.
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blarth @thelemmy.club - 1.1yr
I wonder how many UHC members have found sleep difficult while nauseated, in pain, and dying because of care they were denied by UHC.
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originalucifer - 1.1yr
i care less about their compensation than the profit their companies made denying care to a volume of humans. do we have those numbers?
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nova @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
There's a direct correlation. Where do you think the money comes from?
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NatakuNox @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
This. Think about all the medical care these salaries could have provided. These people provide no value for their customers. Not a single patient received better care because of the CEO of their heath insurance provider.
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huginn @feddit.it - 1.1yr
United was the #1 claim denier as a percentage
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Zier - 1.1yr
That's an very interesting looking Bingo card.
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Zwiebel @feddit.org - 1.1yr
Reminder, at 20M per year you have to work ten thousand years to earn 200B, which is the realm Musk is in...
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
Certainly a very valid point, and hopefully we're building up to that (bigger money comes with much tighter security), but I do think the people so directly sacrificing people's lives for profit shouldn't be overlooked.
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Valmond @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Yeah, and as I posted somewhere else, 10.2M is only a measly $196.000 a weak... /s
Such a low salary. Bet we all can work all our whole lives and not even get half of 10.2M in total.
I thought the same joke just need red circles around the rest haha
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Valmond @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Not very much, just $196.000 a week.
...
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DavLemmyHav - 1.1yr
I dont know why but 196k a week infuriates me so much more than 20mil a year
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Valmond @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
That's why we accept billionaires, it's too mindboggling to understand.
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Robust Mirror - 1.1yr
Right. It's like hey I wanna hire you for a job. I'm quite generous so I'm going to offer you $50/hour. And I am also going to pay you 24/7, working, not working, sleeping, doesn't matter. Then for some reason I'm going to back pay you all the way to year 0. So you'll get that pay rate for the last 2024 years on the spot.
You're still not a billionaire.
(approx $887,100,984 in case you're wondering)
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NostraDavid - 1.1yr
196k a week
That's 19.44$ per minute.
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DavLemmyHav - 1.1yr
What the FUCK
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laverabe @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
UnitedHealthcare Group should be in the picture as well, with Andrew Witty $18.8 M (from 2021) 23.5 M last year, according to another commenter.
Witty is the CEO of the group. Thompson was only CEO of UnitedHealthcare - one of the parent conglomerates' many subsidiaries.
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PersnickityPenguin @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
Are you saying the shooter got the wrong guy?
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Manifish_Destiny @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
No. I think he's saying the shooter didn't need to be so selective.
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lemming741 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
the symbolism of the investor conference is the chefs kiss
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modifier - 1.1yr
First, I always like to recognize good image transcription, thank you OP.
I really dislike violence, and would never advocate for it; a just society offers better more evolved means of accountability and remedy.
But the idea that it should feel dangerous to be a billionaire resonates down to my marrow.
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DiagnosedADHD @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Yeah I agree, but we dont really live in that society anymore. All attempts at reform are sidelined and corporate interests are put over our own constantly. I don't like it either, but people have a breaking point and they can only take so much. If we had a stronger aca that wasn't gutted by industry maybe there wouldn't have been motive here.
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jas0n @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Unfortunately, the ACA was gutted before it was signed. While it reduced the number of uninsured (by a lot), it is ultimately just another way public money could be funneled into these insurance companies.
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Jimbo @yiffit.net - 1.1yr
But we don't live in a just society.
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TGhost [She/Her] - 1.1yr
I really dislike violence
There is many types of violence,
It isnt just physics one.
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Passerby6497 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Yeah, everyone gets upset about physical violence, but so few people care about the systemic violence perpetuated against the lower classes.
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TGhost [She/Her] - 1.1yr
And that's really beyond my understanding...
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NostraDavid - 1.1yr
Is systemic violence not a subgroup of physical violence? Is violence not per definition physical? I'm confused.
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Passerby6497 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
No, not all violence is physical, and while systemic violence can be violent, it very often isn't. But it's any damage or harmful action that's carried out through normal operation.
Systemic violence against the poor includes economic and social violence, like tax cuts, safety regulations repealed, or social programs being shutdown. None of these forms of systemic violence are physical, but it's yet another metaphorical hit against people who can barely stand as it is. The racism baked onto the system (shit like redlining) isn't necessarily physically violent, but it hurts and kills people all the same. Hell, the UHC guy getting killed and everyone cheering is because shit like the insurance industry is systemically violent against its consumers.
The nonviolent forms of systemic violence due regularly lead to physical violence, such as houseless populations being rousted and their encampments torn down because it's easier to be cruel than suffer the eyesore and help people.
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MirthfulAlembic @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
FYI this is out of date for CVS. Karen Lynch got fired and replaced by David Joyner a month ago.
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
Unless she got fired for whistleblowing, I think we can still count her, but it is good to stay up to date, thanks!
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MirthfulAlembic @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
I remember she tried to overhaul their drug cost model to be less opaque and supposedly cheaper for consumers. Doesn't seem like it ended up happening from my point of view. CVS is my PBM and keeps raising the cost for generics to the point where it's cheaper to buy them without using insurance from an online pharmacy.
But I wouldn't want the new jerk who replaced her to escape attention, seeing as he came from the PBM business and is likely the reason for my above complaint.
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
Oh yeah, I completely support getting these people's names and photos out there.
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mynameisigglepiggle @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
With a name like that you know she's got it coming
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TheObviousSolution @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
Their salary shouldn't matter as much as their insurance claim denial rates.
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boonhet @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
For real, Thompson might be the lowest on the list, but United had some of the highest denial rates. And I bet they're damn proud of the rates too.
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BallShapedMan @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
I would argue CEOs are a lot more fun than slinkies when you push them down the stairs.
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taiyang @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
8 is a good goal. You can basically MegaMan your way through them. We all know the first one is the hardest! 7 to go!
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YonderEpochs - 1.1yr
Thompson managed kind of a spinning...well fall, as he fell, does The Adjustor get to incorporate that now?!
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taiyang @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
The Adjustor learned B. Tornado!
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BonesOfTheMoon @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
I keep scanning the news to see if they found out anything about the shooter yet, aka The Adjuster, and they have absolutely nothing whatsoever. It's like he didn't really exist.
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TotallynotJessica @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
The Deposer
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huquad @lemmy.ml - 1.1yr
Are you familiar with the shadow of mordor mechanics? He's just getting started
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
Are tou familiar with the shadow of mordor mechanics?
No, sorry 😂
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not_that_guy05 @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
Missed opportunity to cross off the bottom right one.
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Viking_Hippie @lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
Well it's not the only black and white pic for no reason..
It's more subtle than the x, but it sends the same message.
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I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com - 1.1yr
I didn't make it, and I agree, but also that'd get it removed in an instant from most social media lol
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problematicPanther @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
This post would already get removed from .world
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Idontevenknowanymore @mander.xyz - 1.1yr
Bad time to be named Lynch.
12
teije9 - 1.1yr
I hate when people don't specify monthly or yearly pay, especially with health insurance CEOs where it can be both
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AA5B @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
I hate when people talk about executive pay without specifying both salary and stock. After all, Elon Musk supposedly earns zero salary and zero cash bonus, but seems to be getting by
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superkret @feddit.org - 1.1yr
I bet the others made fun of him at their private CEO get-togethers.
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Avicenna - 1.1yr
they are all small compared to the shareholders who likely decide the company policies more than the CEOs
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Aux @sh.itjust.works - 1.1yr
Here's a twist - YOU are the shareholder. One of them.
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Avicenna - 1.1yr
well I sure am somehow buying products that probably goes to one of the shareholders' pockets that is for sure.
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Aux @sh.itjust.works - 1.1yr
No, you are the shareholder because you receive your salary into a bank account which then automatically gets invested (and unless your bank is ripping you off you should be getting a monthly interest) and you have a pension which is also invested. You are an ACTUAL shareholder.
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Avicenna - 1.1yr
there is no monthly interest in regular accounts here unless you put it in a savers account. but yes I do and I know that my pension usually invests the money too without much flexibility on where to invest it in. so unless you are Ron Swanson there is no complete disconnection from this web. but the fix is easy: all I have to say is "individually major share holder" since those will be the ones deciding about company policies not me.
I think any company whose only shareholders are made up of people holding 0.000001% in shares wont suffer from the same consequences a company does when there are shareholders like %10, 20, 30 etc. Same difference between having billions or hundred thousands.
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Exec @pawb.social - 1.1yr
he's the number fifteeen eight guy on the blaeklist
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affiliate @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
the smallest fish in the big fish pond is still a big fish
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pyre @lemmy.world - 1.1yr
not small enough for the bullets to miss
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Lovable Sidekick - 1.1yr
He's been estranged from his wife for a while (standard suspect) and who knows what kind of lunatic business rivals or failed affairs he's had. I'm really gonna enjoy the dead silence when it turns out the killer was hired by some crazy ex-gf.
1
Lovable Sidekick - 1.1yr
-1 for extraneous "rule" at the end
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PersnickityPenguin @lemm.ee - 1.1yr
It must be so hard to live on such low wages. I feel for these poor souls, truly.
ShareMySims in 196
FYI he was the smallest fish in his pond rule
ID: image titled "Health Insurance CEOS and their pay:" above 8 photos of the CEO
Cigna, DAVID CORDANI $21M
WellCare, MICHAEL CARSON $23.5M
Humana, BRUCE BROUSSARD $16.3 M
CENTENE Corporation, SARAH LONDON $18.6 M
MOLINA HEALTHCARE, JOSEPH ZUBRETSKY $21.4 M
CVS Health, KAREN LYNCH $21.6 M
Elevance Health, GAIL BOUDREAUX $21.9 M
United Healthcare, BRIAN THOMPSON $10.2 M
woah that's so crazy. I've got this DIY submarine they should come ride in
I'd donate to that crowd-funding 👍
I think it’s more about denied claims. UHC denies more than 30% of claims whereas most other insurers range between 10-20%. UHC denies the most claims by a big margin. This is likely to make you some enemies.
10-20 percent is still insanely high, considering the amount of cases were taking about here. Even just one percent would be thousands suffering for no better reason than profits.
I think we need to accept that there are some fraudulent claims filed that should be denied. I have no idea what the percentage is or how to determine it, but I would think it is below 10%, probably below 5%.
Man, think about how much better the world would be if insurance companies were automatically audited with greater than 5% denials.
What a fantastic idea. You should run for office.
I see zero reason for it to not be both. These people are all your enemy, as is everyone above them in the chain.
Universal healthcare denies claims? What?
...
...
Core dumped
United Healthcare.
Segmentation fault
French know how to segment
I like how the United Healthcare CEO is greyed out like a completed boss in Mega Man.
Well shit. Who's the secret boss after they all get greyed out then?
Capitalism
It's a double boss fight with Adam Smith and John Locke
We have Marx and Engels
Donald Trump
This photo is notably missing Andrew Witty the CEO of UnitedHealth Group the parent company of UnitedHealthcare of which Brian Thompson was CEO. Andrew Witty made $23.5m last year.
I bet that guy is finding sleep elusive.
He probably has 10-15 federal Marshalls outside his bedroom as we speak, pulling guard duty.
On our dime.
For sure, but I'd like to believe there is a fresh new fear in their minds. Kinda like what if the doc finds something serious and I go bankrupt from the treatment.
I hope his request for sleeping pills gets denied by his insurance.
I wonder how many UHC members have found sleep difficult while nauseated, in pain, and dying because of care they were denied by UHC.
i care less about their compensation than the profit their companies made denying care to a volume of humans. do we have those numbers?
There's a direct correlation. Where do you think the money comes from?
This. Think about all the medical care these salaries could have provided. These people provide no value for their customers. Not a single patient received better care because of the CEO of their heath insurance provider.
United was the #1 claim denier as a percentage
That's an very interesting looking Bingo card.
Reminder, at 20M per year you have to work ten thousand years to earn 200B, which is the realm Musk is in...
Certainly a very valid point, and hopefully we're building up to that (bigger money comes with much tighter security), but I do think the people so directly sacrificing people's lives for profit shouldn't be overlooked.
Yeah, and as I posted somewhere else, 10.2M is only a measly $196.000 a weak... /s
Such a low salary. Bet we all can work all our whole lives and not even get half of 10.2M in total.
Updated: https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/0f460708-cfd9-4884-8779-3c4e816c207f.jpeg
I think this is why his photo was already grey.
I thought the same joke just need red circles around the rest haha
Not very much, just $196.000 a week.
...
I dont know why but 196k a week infuriates me so much more than 20mil a year
That's why we accept billionaires, it's too mindboggling to understand.
Right. It's like hey I wanna hire you for a job. I'm quite generous so I'm going to offer you $50/hour. And I am also going to pay you 24/7, working, not working, sleeping, doesn't matter. Then for some reason I'm going to back pay you all the way to year 0. So you'll get that pay rate for the last 2024 years on the spot.
You're still not a billionaire.
(approx $887,100,984 in case you're wondering)
That's 19.44$ per minute.
What the FUCK
UnitedHealthcare Group should be in the picture as well, with Andrew Witty
$18.8 M (from 2021)23.5 M last year, according to another commenter.Witty is the CEO of the group. Thompson was only CEO of UnitedHealthcare - one of the parent conglomerates' many subsidiaries.
Are you saying the shooter got the wrong guy?
No. I think he's saying the shooter didn't need to be so selective.
the symbolism of the investor conference is the chefs kiss
First, I always like to recognize good image transcription, thank you OP.
I really dislike violence, and would never advocate for it; a just society offers better more evolved means of accountability and remedy.
But the idea that it should feel dangerous to be a billionaire resonates down to my marrow.
Yeah I agree, but we dont really live in that society anymore. All attempts at reform are sidelined and corporate interests are put over our own constantly. I don't like it either, but people have a breaking point and they can only take so much. If we had a stronger aca that wasn't gutted by industry maybe there wouldn't have been motive here.
Unfortunately, the ACA was gutted before it was signed. While it reduced the number of uninsured (by a lot), it is ultimately just another way public money could be funneled into these insurance companies.
But we don't live in a just society.
There is many types of violence,
It isnt just physics one.
Yeah, everyone gets upset about physical violence, but so few people care about the systemic violence perpetuated against the lower classes.
And that's really beyond my understanding...
Is systemic violence not a subgroup of physical violence? Is violence not per definition physical? I'm confused.
No, not all violence is physical, and while systemic violence can be violent, it very often isn't. But it's any damage or harmful action that's carried out through normal operation.
Systemic violence against the poor includes economic and social violence, like tax cuts, safety regulations repealed, or social programs being shutdown. None of these forms of systemic violence are physical, but it's yet another metaphorical hit against people who can barely stand as it is. The racism baked onto the system (shit like redlining) isn't necessarily physically violent, but it hurts and kills people all the same. Hell, the UHC guy getting killed and everyone cheering is because shit like the insurance industry is systemically violent against its consumers.
The nonviolent forms of systemic violence due regularly lead to physical violence, such as houseless populations being rousted and their encampments torn down because it's easier to be cruel than suffer the eyesore and help people.
FYI this is out of date for CVS. Karen Lynch got fired and replaced by David Joyner a month ago.
Unless she got fired for whistleblowing, I think we can still count her, but it is good to stay up to date, thanks!
I remember she tried to overhaul their drug cost model to be less opaque and supposedly cheaper for consumers. Doesn't seem like it ended up happening from my point of view. CVS is my PBM and keeps raising the cost for generics to the point where it's cheaper to buy them without using insurance from an online pharmacy.
But I wouldn't want the new jerk who replaced her to escape attention, seeing as he came from the PBM business and is likely the reason for my above complaint.
Oh yeah, I completely support getting these people's names and photos out there.
With a name like that you know she's got it coming
Their salary shouldn't matter as much as their insurance claim denial rates.
For real, Thompson might be the lowest on the list, but United had some of the highest denial rates. And I bet they're damn proud of the rates too.
I would argue CEOs are a lot more fun than slinkies when you push them down the stairs.
8 is a good goal. You can basically MegaMan your way through them. We all know the first one is the hardest! 7 to go!
Thompson managed kind of a spinning...well fall, as he fell, does The Adjustor get to incorporate that now?!
The Adjustor learned B. Tornado!
I keep scanning the news to see if they found out anything about the shooter yet, aka The Adjuster, and they have absolutely nothing whatsoever. It's like he didn't really exist.
The Deposer
Are you familiar with the shadow of mordor mechanics? He's just getting started
No, sorry 😂
Missed opportunity to cross off the bottom right one.
Well it's not the only black and white pic for no reason..
It's more subtle than the x, but it sends the same message.
I didn't make it, and I agree, but also that'd get it removed in an instant from most social media lol
This post would already get removed from .world
Bad time to be named Lynch.
I hate when people don't specify monthly or yearly pay, especially with health insurance CEOs where it can be both
I hate when people talk about executive pay without specifying both salary and stock. After all, Elon Musk supposedly earns zero salary and zero cash bonus, but seems to be getting by
I bet the others made fun of him at their private CEO get-togethers.
they are all small compared to the shareholders who likely decide the company policies more than the CEOs
Here's a twist - YOU are the shareholder. One of them.
well I sure am somehow buying products that probably goes to one of the shareholders' pockets that is for sure.
No, you are the shareholder because you receive your salary into a bank account which then automatically gets invested (and unless your bank is ripping you off you should be getting a monthly interest) and you have a pension which is also invested. You are an ACTUAL shareholder.
there is no monthly interest in regular accounts here unless you put it in a savers account. but yes I do and I know that my pension usually invests the money too without much flexibility on where to invest it in. so unless you are Ron Swanson there is no complete disconnection from this web. but the fix is easy: all I have to say is "individually major share holder" since those will be the ones deciding about company policies not me.
I think any company whose only shareholders are made up of people holding 0.000001% in shares wont suffer from the same consequences a company does when there are shareholders like %10, 20, 30 etc. Same difference between having billions or hundred thousands.
the smallest fish in the big fish pond is still a big fish
not small enough for the bullets to miss
He's been estranged from his wife for a while (standard suspect) and who knows what kind of lunatic business rivals or failed affairs he's had. I'm really gonna enjoy the dead silence when it turns out the killer was hired by some crazy ex-gf.
-1 for extraneous "rule" at the end
It must be so hard to live on such low wages. I feel for these poor souls, truly.