One comment there made a good point: A lot of ND people who go to another country often say how great it is to them, but the real effect is that when residents of that country see you miss a cue or act how they think is weird, they chalk it up to you being a foreigner, not ND. ND people who are actually from the country have it bad though.
And it's a whole different dynamic when you're a visitor/tourist than when you're a migrant. I'm ND, living abroad. Daily life feels like double masking: once to hide my ND, second to perform local mores.
Add to that hiding my queerness, and you have a dysphoria sandwich
Having autism in a scandinavian society is a genuine death sentence
I don’t think there is a more closed off and discriminatory society than the Scandinavian one. There are so many rules and expectations from a young age, that if you don’t follow them you are cast off in your formative years and you never get a chance to reintegrate into a social circle, since they are already decided in childhood and they don’t let anyone new in. So your life of solitude is already determined when you’re a fricking kid in kindergarten, assuming you go to a regular kindergarten and not one for kids with special needs And if you continue into further education, I’m currently in gymnasium for example, it’s even worse. The exclusion culture is so prominent, they don’t even attempt to want anything to do with you. It’s like they can tell you are abnormal at first glance, and now you have some contagious disease and communication with you is no longer possible. wtf!! I feel like in other countries societies there is at least that childhood circle that exists for someone with autism, but if you’re here in Scandinavia its the opposite cause nobody wants anything to do with you since the beginning. Any Scandinavian autists relate?
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Big [any, any] - 4w
Norwegian autist here. This is 100% true.
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StillNoLeftLeft [none/use name, she/her] - 4w
It's the sameness culture and very protestant norms, the values and norms around these parts are structurally fascistic and eugenist. Bullying in schools is the norm even today. As an audhd from Finland I have definitely been in the sharp end of this dynamic all my life, so has all the people like myself that I know of.
But I suspect this still isn't unique to these countries, they are just especially weird about norms and fitting in.
The discussion cited here is pretty racist in parts and seems to have turned into a sort of competition on who is the most oppressed. Would fit in slop too.
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murmelade - 4w
Not convinced this is uniquely Scandinavian.
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HexReplyBot [none/use name] - 4w
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Having autism in a scandinavian society is a genuine death sentence
https://old.reddit.com/r/aspergers/comments/1ufo45r/having_autism_in_a_scandinavian_society_is_a/One comment there made a good point: A lot of ND people who go to another country often say how great it is to them, but the real effect is that when residents of that country see you miss a cue or act how they think is weird, they chalk it up to you being a foreigner, not ND. ND people who are actually from the country have it bad though.
And it's a whole different dynamic when you're a visitor/tourist than when you're a migrant. I'm ND, living abroad. Daily life feels like double masking: once to hide my ND, second to perform local mores.
Add to that hiding my queerness, and you have a dysphoria sandwich
of course it was
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Norwegian autist here. This is 100% true.
It's the sameness culture and very protestant norms, the values and norms around these parts are structurally fascistic and eugenist. Bullying in schools is the norm even today. As an audhd from Finland I have definitely been in the sharp end of this dynamic all my life, so has all the people like myself that I know of.
But I suspect this still isn't unique to these countries, they are just especially weird about norms and fitting in.
The discussion cited here is pretty racist in parts and seems to have turned into a sort of competition on who is the most oppressed. Would fit in slop too.
Not convinced this is uniquely Scandinavian.
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