I forgot that it's my mega week so no big info dump this time. Instead I bring a question: how do you practice gender self-care? Do you have any activities or rituals that make you feel more comfortable in your gender? Painting my nails and taking care of my hair are the most consistent ones. These shouldn't even be considered gendered activities by society, but I missed out on having long hair and painted nails when I was younger because of my assigned gender, so doing them now feels validating and gives me confidence.
As a reminder, please do not discuss current struggle sessions in the mega. We want this to be a little oasis for all of us and the best way to do that is not to feed into existing conflict on the site.
Also, be sure to properly give content warnings and put sensitive subjects behind proper spoiler tags. It's for the mental health of not just your comrades, but yourself as well.
Here is a screenshot of where to find the spoiler button.
* after name denotes someone who has posted before and will be skipped by first-time posters
4
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
Reporting for duty
6
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
put me in
5
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
New thread is up!
3
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
Honestly, demanding of trans women to assume good faith from men instead of thinly veiled transmisogynist hatred is, in itself, a form of structural transmisogyny. To request that we remain civil and polite and keep smiling in a world that wants us dead is violence.
26
tithonis [she/her] - 1mon
It took two years but I have a job again. Hell yeah.
Gender self care for me has been learning about transfeminism and refusing to tolerate disrespect. I'm done being treated like I'm less than. People love to tell women to shut up, they especially love to tell trans women to shut up. Especially people who wouldn't tell other women to shut up. We all deserve better than that.
25
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
This is a great reminder for me to start that transfeminism book club I was talking about.
9
EstraDoll [she/her, he/him] - 1mon
funny side effect of being trans woman: After decades of my life spent not being a girl and living in total jealously of women, I routinely cannot believe misogyny is a real thing. Like, logically I know that many people genuinely hate women, but emotionally I actually struggle to believe it's true. I can hear people say explicitly misogynist things and all I can think is "there's no way he actually thinks that, right? that's just a bold statement for attention, he can't genuinely believe that" and no matter how many times I tell myself "no they genuinely think that" I just emotionally don't believe it. Women are obviously so much better than men, right? those are just sour grapes 🙄
22
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler harassment from men
Men who go to bars should have a bomb implanted at the base of their skulls and every non male patron given the detonator
Nothing makes my skin crawl like some gross old man fucking grabbing my shoulder while walking past
"Have a good night"
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE
:::
21
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I'm feeling a lot better about my body. I still don't really love the overall picture but, there are a lot more features that are good then I thought/noticed.
Also took a picture last night and my tits look fucking huge.
20
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
also also I didn't realize until last night how much they bounce around lol, that was fun.
13
RION [she/her] - 1mon
Dread it, run from it... huge tittification comes for us all
12
Kuori [she/her, pup/pup's] - 1mon
some drown, others die of thirst
15
RION [she/her] - 1mon
In all honesty mine aren't particularly big, I just have one or two shirts that really flatter them
7
Carcharodonna [she/her] - 1mon
That is GREAT to hear
Your boobs will get even bigger too. Mine seemingly haven’t stopped growing and it’s to the point where I’m having significant difficulty boymoding for work because of it.
9
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Glad to hear you're getting over the harder part. It gets much better from here on out.
8
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
I'm probably being dramatic but I think we should kill everyone who makes the "can't play games without a joystick" joke about trans women
19
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
You're not being dramatic, people who obsess over our genitals are a plague. Honestly doesn't matter which way, but after half of my friend group got bottom surgery and i've seen over and over again how many gatekeeping hoops we had to jump through, how much work friends of mine who went for vaginoplasty instead of an orchi still put into recovering, how much relief the entire thing brings them and how little cissies understand any of that, i have a particular soft spot for the girls who've gotten their soft spot. Not to discount the struggles of any woman with a dick, i'm one myself, i have to worry way too much about that, but i'll fight tooth and nail for my friends who fought for their right to have a pussy. It's just nobody's business what's in our pants. Even people who want to date us hands-down don't get to ask anything besides "do i have to keep bottom dysphoria in mind or not". That's literally all that matters when somebody wants to go down on a trans girl and if they wonder about anything else they do not deserve to breathe the same air as us.
18
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
i have a particular soft spot for the girls who've gotten their soft spot.
🔥 ✍️
15
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Nah we agree we gotta kill ppl who say chaser ass shit like that, especially w the "noo dont get bottom surgery :(" undertone
15
rando895 [she/her] - 1mon
Ngl after being sexually harassed and sexually obsessed over, getting bottom surgery is going to bring me a level of peace I didn't expect from it.
I really need to stop playing incremental games, it's adhd bait. Something about the combination of numbers go up and extreme micromanaging short circuits my brain
18
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
OMG IM SO GAY AND HOMOSEXUAL LESBIAN GAY WOMEN I LOVE WOMEN GAY WOMEN
17
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
IS SHE GAY OR EUROPEAN?
6
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
(She's gay)
6
tithonis [she/her] - 1mon
Sometimes both!
4
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
I got my Estrogen implant this morning!
So Australia is a bit odd when it comes to feminizing HRT. We have all the tablets, gels and patches that are used in menopause treatment for cis women. But we don't have easily available injections. This is because no pharmaceutical has bothered to get Therapeutic Goods approval in Australia because the market of trans women is presumably too small. So many trans femmes do DIY injections if they want them. Or they can be made by a compounding chemist (who crunches tablets and blends them into an oil suspension), but that's expensive with a poor shelf life (taking away two really good things about injections).
But our endocrinologists fucking love implants for trans women. Which is weird because implant are considered a bit niche the rest of the world. It's probably in part because we had a trans woman who was an endocrinologist in the 1980s (which is wild) who advocated them heavily. They've fallen out of vogue for Cis Women in menopause too. But this means I got a GP to put an implant in my butt today.
I have been on progynova sublingually for 15mths. Most doctors won't do an implant until you've been on a year. Ostensibly this is make sure you tolerate the estrogen, I think it's because Cis people are squeamish about less reversible forms of HRT. Because it's not easily reversible. It would need to be fished out under surgery instead of just being stopped. Which is super cool.
I got 200mg put in (2x100mg implants) which I paid about 200 Australian dollars from a compounding pharmacy. It cost 280 AUD for the GP to put it in my butt. They gave me local anaesthetic. Made a 1cm cut. Pushed them in with a device, then put a single dissolvable stitch. On the surface this is a lot of money. But with two implants I'm probably going to have high levels of estrogen for 12-18months straight! The doctor said I shouldn't check my levels for 3-6 months because I'm going to be at pregnancy levels for a little while!
Right now I'm sitting a little sorely, I kind of feel great, but it's probably also placebo.
seconding this pls see an actual healthcare pro what you are describing certainly does not fall under "diet issues"
15
RION [she/her] - 1mon
I'm definitely gonna upgrade to a stool softener to get things under control first. If it keeps coming back I'll see a doctor I promise
4
Busgirl [she/her] - 1mon
SEE A DOCTOR NOW
14
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
BountifulEggnog's hot take of the day:
ALL trans people should be required to take a 4 week course in endocrinology specializing in sex hormones OR listen to an autist yap about the subject for 6 hours. Sick of trans people I love getting fucked over because they didn't know better.
BountifulEggnog's COLD take of the day:
::: spoiler All endos should face the wall
Slightly hyperbolic
:::
16
MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them] - 1mon
I have a friend who has come out to me as trans several times but he insists on just ignoring it and not doing anything about it. Any time I discuss anything serious with him he tends to stop responding or change the subject. I’m not sure there’s anything I can do and it hurts.
16
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I definitely understand why you'd repress, and it took me a solid year before getting on hrt because I'm a coward. But at the same time knowing how much worse things will get if you do is what broke me out of it and now I feel way better.
Definitely sucks to see someone do that, one of the most self destructive things you can do TBH
14
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I'm proud of you for starting, by the way
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Thank you It was really scary, still is, but its working out good right now. Couldn't have done it without all the support from people here. Thanks again PeanutButter :) really nice reminder.
11
Firstnamebunchofnumbers [none/use name] - 1mon
Me for the past 6 years
10
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
What's the next step for you?
8
Firstnamebunchofnumbers [none/use name] - 1mon
Decide what I actually want for my body and my gender identity, and face the consequences if my partner can't handle it. I guess.
(This will probably take another 6 years)
8
MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them] - 1mon
I was in a situation where I wasn’t transitioning “to spare my partner” is what I would tell myself. Rapid fire 6 months of the most effective therapy I’ve ever participated in:
I can’t control how people react to me
Trying to please my partner all the time was denying them the chance to meet and know authentic parts of me
Avoiding transition “for their sake” was denying them a chance to authentically react to my situation and process those feelings
Acceptance that their reaction may go the other way is distinct from pessimism that their reaction would go poorly
And then in retrospect, despite some initial bumpiness and thanks to some consequent couples therapy, any initial negativity has been replaced by genuine acceptance and enthusiasm. And I found that despite that, I still had the hesitancy to put effort into my transition. The hesitancy I think for me comes from a place of internalized transphobia more than anything.
I’m not saying any of this is a one-to-one fit for you but’s it’s my experience and what you said reminded me of it.
10
Firstnamebunchofnumbers [none/use name] - 1mon
They are accusing me of attenpting to copy them, and that I'm only feeling this way because of societal expectations for men, and I'm just running away
7
MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them] - 1mon
I also got the “societal expectations for men” thing from my partner for a while. That must be so invalidating to hear. Your partner is trans then if I’m understanding correctly?
7
Firstnamebunchofnumbers [none/use name] - 1mon
Nonbinary afab, no interest in physical transition
4
tithonis [she/her] - 1mon
I gotta say, having spent far too long in a relationship with someone who didn't respect me for who I am, and speaking on behalf of everyone I know who has escaped a similar situation:
Whatever the consequences are, staying in the closet/tolerating the abuse any longer than you absolutely have to is so, so, so much worse than you think it might be. ::: spoiler abuse
It took me a year to escape once I had my mind made up for good. I'd known on some level I needed to get out for a few years before that but I was isolated from my friends and family. I tried to proceed in secret, things blew up anyways, and now a year out on the other side of it I finally have a life worth living.
:::
Do whatever you have to do, for you. Transitioning will show you really quick who your friends really are and aren't. Someone who loves you won't demand you stay in the closet for them.
7
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
It sounds like waiting 6 years has not been an effective strategy for you - maybe you should try making some small changes and see how you feel about them. A month of HRT, for example. Some makeup to make your face more masculine or feminine. New name and pronouns. Things of this nature.
7
MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them] - 1mon
Some of the most life changing advise I got was that the effects of estrogen are reversible for months, but you’ll start to feel psychological effects within weeks. I felt them within days, easily. Like just the idea that HRT was something you could experiment with rather than something that had the finality of a definite decision.
8
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
That was an important part of it for me trying it out and I had similar experience with knowing it was for me way before any physical changes happened. Still knowing I would eventually take it to experiment was long separated from actually taking it because I was still worried about work and thought I'd save up for a couple more years just in case. Fortunately, some other stuff came up and I decided I'd be starting very soon.
7
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
That's how I was for about 2 years (and to some extent still have been for the last two years other than hrt). Not sure there would have been much anyone could do. The only times I would really do something remotely resembling doing something was events where costumes were a thing and I could get sometime nudging me along.
9
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Forcefem/masc (as the case may be)
8
MeetMeAtTheMovies [they/them] - 1mon
Would be forcefem lol. Just using he/him pronouns because those are currently his preferred and he hasn’t indicated whether he thinks he’s a woman or nonbinary if he’s thought about it at all.
4
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Deadass I would tell her I'm going to pick a name for her if she doesn't do it herself.
6
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Absolutely fascinated by older people (like 90 or more) who are completely chill about me being trans.
And I'm like are you really this cool? Or is this just so beyond your comprehension that I'm just a tall dame with a deep voice.
16
tithonis [she/her] - 1mon
"If she says she's a dame then she's a dame", ime. The kind of gender policing we tend to take for granted had very different contours mid-century and before when anyone in their 90s today would be making up their minds on this stuff. Also, you're past 90, who gives a shit about gender? The nice lady with a lovely deep voice and I had a delightful conversation.
It's only in the late 1960s and beyond that the contemporary gender policing apparatus we live with now. it begins to become legible. IIRC passports and driver's licenses didn't even have a field for gender until the early 70s.
14
SexUnderSocialism [she/her] - 1mon
People from the silent generation being more accepting of trans people than boomers seems to be quite common. It should really be studied.
12
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
I see the light rail pass by and i immediately have to think of how i could ask her what model that is and she would start infodumping in her sweet voice that i haven't heard for so long. I can't wait to see her again, feel that tight embrace that immediately grounds me every time and lets me know deep down that i'm safe, watch her lean forward like she does now every time when i cradle her beautiful face in both hands to kiss her on the forehead right above that little scar. This is why every time i see a train now, i think that this, too, is yuri.
16
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler Okay day 1 post implant.
I was told everyone is different some people the estrogen kicks in minutes others in days to weeks.
I think I'm the former. I thought yesterday it was just placebo but no I feel like I'm like a pink glowing super Saiyan. I had so strange but not bad dreams, I'm full of energy, I'm smiling harder than I ever had, but I'm also bursting into tears. It's like when I first started HRat but X10. My breasts hurt.
It's meant to level out in a few weeks but wow.
:::
16
RION [she/her] - 1mon
Gave myself psychic damage introducing myself to a new intern at work. She gave her name and pronouns, I gave my stupid guy name and hesitated before just saying what my job is...
I like the name Ruby I think. Might try testing it out
16
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Good news, at least, is if she gave her pronounds unprompted she's probably safe to come out to?
10
RION [she/her] - 1mon
And those pronouns being she/they would support that concept
4
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Booked a laser consultation!
16
Ceres [she/her] - 1mon
Its been a really good two months
15
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Going to get my permit (again) today, hopefully license by the end of July if not sooner because I've got gay shit I wanna do.
By the end of summer I will be a car driving gay. I'll have a job, hit my savings goal (Although I have to buy a car so it won't last long at that number), my one year hrt anniversary will be coming up. I'll be in a good state and a city instead of bumfuck nowhere. If things work out I'll get to have two bucket list experiences I've been wanting.
god what a time. This time next year I'm hoping to be in such a good spot.
15
SickSemper [she/her, comrade/them] - 1mon
i’m so happy for you! car driving gay is such a great position to be in, you get so many friends and the only price is driving them places
9
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Next year you'll be in a better spot! You already climbed up. You'll keep climbing.
3
GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 1mon
stumbled on a treasure trove of good fanfics, Trans Girl Link / Zelda. seems pretty good thus far. shame i've never actually played any of the gaymes, here's to hoping the cultural osmosis carries the day.
15
Busgirl [she/her] - 1mon
Am girl took 150 mg edible
15
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Idk how to explain things to my parents especially being so to them I'm hijo still which I don't mind too much. Had a moment with my dad where he got a good look at my gf and he did the whole "hell yeah" and patting me on the back when he saw how pretty she is, my mom and sibling agree but I can't lie it did hit differently. I've told them a lot about her and they approve like I mentioned before, they like her good heart and her smarts too.
15
segfault11 [she/her, any] - 1mon
waow she must be real pretty
12
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
So fucking pretty you wouldn't believe
7
MusicOwl [comrade/them, sie/hir] - 1mon
down with cis
::: spoiler spoiler
happy pride ya'll! hitting 3 years next week.
:::
15
Ocommie63 [she/her] - 1mon
I love dating a trans woman so much, its so awesome!!! 🥹🥹🥹
14
meler [she/her, pup/pup's] - 1mon
I'm reading through the Godot documentation on tweens and found the most magnificent method name of all time
14
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Being masc presenting my mom and sibling like taking me to appointments with them, office ladies defer to me with greater respect and help us more. All to say that's some whack shit fr, my size is also useful for fending off predators because I'm a hippo you need to remember this reader 🦛
14
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
I practice gender by going out with my tits out, proud and loud
14
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
tits out
With a bra right?
11
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
14
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
11
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
6
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
Usually I don't wear anything that's particularly revealing or tight. Yesterday, decided to try on a shirt my mom had gotten me a year ago (it was a little snug then) and it was really tight. Decided to just go out with that and no bra just to spite my mom since I knew she would be strongly against me wearing such. Was worried I'd be uncomfortable like that, but it wasn't bad.
8
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
a second trans woman has been shocked at how "nice" my voice is
14
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
That's cause it is silly XP
8
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
7
Busgirl [she/her] - 1mon
Shes right you know
4
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
It's valid as hell to be dysphoric about it, but it is a pretty voice. It's already androgynous and maybe even on the fem side of androgynous to my ear. You definitely won't need as intense voice training as many of us to get to where you want I bet.
3
EstraDoll [she/her, he/him] - 1mon
"I'm Verdone with this shit, I'm going home"
some guy from WW1, probably
14
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Does this site remove blatant transmisogyny? /srs
14
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler transphobia
Like you should genuinely get site banned if you describe people online recognizing trans women are more oppressed then cis women as a "dangerous trend". What in the terf rhetoric are we upvoting here.
I am complaining here in hopes a mod with pull sees this and takes SOME action, this is not a "struggle sesh", this is disgusting.
:::
19
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
Yeah, report it
8
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I did, nothing has happened. There's only one mod in that comm, who's last post is from two years ago.
Also admins are the only ones who can siteban, do they get user reports?
12
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
It has fortunately been removed now, but that was such a trainwreck of a post. Literally not a single truthful sentence in there, it would have been impossible to handle that subject in a worse way and then several cis dudes show up in the replies and say they are "here to listen" because obviously they do not know better. Horrible.
4
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Honestly I just latched onto that one line so hard because of how ridiculous and terfy it is. I didn't look at much of the rest of it. Pisses me off that was allowed to go u checked, 50+ upvotes, no one removes it.
Yea I saw that too, I hope they actually did check back with the thread later to see all our problems with it. Also thank you for having the discussion with the other user in the comments, I really didn't have the patience yesterday.
OP made a selfcrit post after so I think she felt some level of bad, I still don't like her response to what I said though. But I didn't persue it any further. I know you were also pretty bothered by the post so maybe you want to look at it.
It was horrible though, pisses me off to see rhetoric like that on this site of all places. And that it was just allowed to sit there for 16+ hours, get upvotes, whole thing.
4
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
Yeh, i have replied to her self crit post, i think there's some stuff that she still just doesn't fully grasp. And it's tiring. I mean, the exchange with the other person in the original thread was also tiring, but ultimately it turned out to largely be a misunderstanding and motivated by concern for a loved one, so it ended on a peaceful note. I am actually considering to do my own effortpost take on the GAM now, it has been an important influence for me and everything, but idk when i have the spoons for that.
5
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Cool, I'd been checking it to see if there was any discussion but I'm glad you responded to it. Your response was spot on and I'm glad someone else was able to, I'm not always the best at that type of thing.
I think that'd be really cool if you did, i think it should be addressed but I'm not the right person for it. Understand the spoons though take care of yourself :meow-hug:
4
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
Pisses me off that was allowed to go u checked, 50+ upvotes, no one removes it.
I never finished GAM so I didn't want to reply, but I considered upvoting just to promote someone else refuting the post (which I stopped reading after the part about India...)
2
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Oh wow I missed all that nonsense
6
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Shonen fans would loose their minds if the mc had this kinda arc
14
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
Mom is so worried about me having to take anti-depressants and side-effects and it being bad for me that she can't see she is the biggest reason I need them.
::: spoiler just venting cw: general lgbtphobia, sex
I feel like I have to hide myself to go out like I want to, sneak around and stuff, this is awful. Can I just dress however I want to and not have to hide the fact that I'm doing so? Can you please let me be myself openly? You seem so worried about the fact that I need anti-sad pills, but are you not worried WHY I'M SAD??
I was trying to go out with people, but this might not work for now. I need to move out I think... Or try to have another talk with her It's just so exhausting having to
I wish I could just do like cis het couples and go wherever, have dates and not be afraid to be myself in public, then take someone home or go to their house and it be all ok, no questions and no need for excuses. My sister could date a guy and just be ok, why can't I date a trans woman and be ok like seriously this shit just irks me so much AAAAAAAAAAAAA
:::
14
Disaster_of_Passion [kit/kit's, she/her] - 1mon
i love being gay
13
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
It's pretty great. Especially when you have someone to be gay with, that shits the best.
10
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
::: spoiler genitals
Cis people have no curiosity whatsoever. A friend I've known for decades didn't know that estrogen makes your balls shrink and erections difficult to maintain. One of your oldest friends has been on HRT for 18 months and you never looked up its effects? My friend is lovely but that lack of curiosity boggles my mind.
:::
13
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
They absolutely are pretty incurious, but do you really want your friends to be thinking about your genitals?
:::
11
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
Can't say I've never thought about theirs. I'd gladly answer any personal questions if they had any and have joked about some of the effects.
:::
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
Yea tbh it made me feel a little uncomfy when one of my friends knew a lot about the effects of E, like idk you don't need to know all that.
:::
7
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
I don't care at all, tbh. I'm very open and poly and would make out with a good chunk of my friends if they were into it.
:::
7
queermunist she/her - 1mon
Okay it's been a week since I was absolutely sure I got myself fired, and instead I'm getting even more responsibilities at work. I'm manifesting now. I've decided I'm not going to get in trouble, I'm the main character and the universe will listen to me.
13
inTheShadowOf [she/her] - 1mon
I love stumbling into queer spaces. I joined a server for a niche jrpg series I really like and it seems like everyone there is queer in some way.
13
GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 1mon
i've started to brush my hair with more uh intent. 10 strokes, then flip it all over my face dangling down and 20 strokes, then flip it to both sides of my face and brush it down. gets rid of all the loose hair and it honestly looks pretty good, have gotten compliments and it's the only thing i changed about my haircare.
done in the morning and before bed
13
inTheShadowOf [she/her] - 1mon
I want to go on an adventure.
13
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Me too. I really want to travel.
What kinda adventure do you want to go on?
9
RION [she/her] - 1mon
Went to an event in the city my trans femme coworker invited me to! It started out as a bigger group of trans girls but after a bit we just kinda peeled off and hung out by ourselves. Pretty much just talked, checked out some vendor stalls, got some interesting food and drink.
The event itself wasn't completely my jam but it was good to get out and socialize. Got to know my work friend a little better too
13
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Might finally get the chance to take mushies in a few weeks. Wanted to really bad for years now. In a good head space lately too.
13
Arahnya [fae/faer, he/him] - 1mon
hope you have fun! 😸
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Thanks! I'm looking forward to it so much. Just hoping it works out.
6
Bolshechick [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
It's really amazing!! Have a good time!
7
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Why the fuck my self esteem so low?
I live in an ideal environment to transition and go on dates and make friends but I don't do any of it because I think of myself as trash.
::: spoiler content warning
::: spoiler suicide
I get genuinely suicidal from thinking about missing assignments and shit.
:::
13
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
My gf so cool she says uwu all the time even in my dreams
13
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Oh I didn't burn that bad, its a little bit but its okay
Damn girl, why are you red!
fml. Put on sunblock 3x today too. Anyway putting aloe on all of it and planning to put sunblock on even more diligently
12
Arahnya [fae/faer, he/him] - 1mon
i love names chosen from animals, gemstone, nature, folklore / mythos, etc. Like wdym you named yourself after a seal; and its like, well look at them. 🦭 is just silly and cute
12
RION [she/her] - 1mon
Me and the baddie I pulled by renaming myself Dugong 🦭👩
13
Arahnya [fae/faer, he/him] - 1mon
thats a pretty sick name ngl 😮
edit -- its derived from visayan / cebuano!! so cool
2
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Weve been naming ourself after flowers :3
11
Arahnya [fae/faer, he/him] - 1mon
awe that's so wonderful 🥹
3
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
I'm taking a heels technique class (basically intro to dancing in heels) and it feels so affirming to get better at strutting my stuff
12
SickSemper [she/her, comrade/them] - 1mon
hell yeah, that sounds like so much fun! i didn’t even know that was a thing, i wore heels for the first time at a thing this weekend (black boots described as “kickass”) and could tell i needed some strutting practice, so good to know!
6
nemmybun [she/her, sae/saer] - 1mon
My (face) electrolysis is finally nearing the end. I still go in weekly but I'm doing full face clears in 45 mins. The hair is so sparse now that I haven't even bothered shaving for 3 weeks. It was a lot of pain to get to this point but not having to shave and feel dysphoric about it or worry about beard shadow while I'm out and about is so relieving
12
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Love that, can't wait to be there myself!
8
nemmybun [she/her, sae/saer] - 1mon
Hoping it happens faster than expected for you! Also hoping you don't have stubborn lip line hairs like me lol
7
soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her] - 1mon
that sounds really nice. what was your starting point like and approximately how many sessions have you had?
4
nemmybun [she/her, sae/saer] - 1mon
I started at 2 hours a week and that would be enough for like 1/3 of my upper lip. I started around Sept 2024 and have been doing it weekly minus stopping for a couple months for FFS, holidays and the occasional cancellation. Maybe close to 70 sessions now?
4
soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her] - 1mon
oh my god. i'm happy for you, but wow. i haven't shopped around (doing another round of laser atm) but a place that's been recommended locally is £145 ($195 US) per hour
4
nemmybun [she/her, sae/saer] - 1mon
Yeah it's way too expensive. I'm only able to get it because it's covered by my insurance
4
RION [she/her] - 1mon
Thinking about trying out some more jewelry. I have one bracelet I made as part of a matching set with a friend that I wear a lot, but maybe a necklace would be cool? I'd want it to mean something though
12
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler sex
This girl really wants to hookup, and I do too it's really exciting. She seems really great. But I am also still super nervous about it, never done anything before. Worried about feeling dysphoric or something, and expectations, and idk it's a lot. Like I obviously don't like my body, and am very unsure of what would actually be okay in real life because I haven't done it before. I think it'd be fun but I'm still really worried.
Idk if anyone has advice or anything :cheems:
:::
12
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
Are they cis or trans? Because if they're trans I'm sure they'll understand. If they're cis, you probably need to gently prime them that you like them, but you've got a lot of you stuff, so if you get weird that's you, not them.
:::
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
Trans, which yea definitely relieves a lot of it. idk maybe I am over thinking it.
:::
10
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
You are, have fun!
9
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Thank you, I'm sure we will. I still have some logistics to work out but it would be so good
8
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler sex
If something feels good, bad, or uncomfortable then say so. Communication is so important. Consent can always be revoked without the need to explain and it happens more commonly than you might think, so don't feel pressure to keep going just because you've already had to stop a few times or because you don't feel like you have a good enough reason. It's normal to ask about sti risks like how long ago was her last test panel and how many partners she's been with since.
Have fun!
:::
7
Disaster_of_Passion [kit/kit's, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler sex
ykno three days from "we're girlfriends" to "intense cybering" was a bit faster than i expected things to move but i guess that can just happen when besties fall in love
::: spoiler spoiler
i did not know how badly i needed to hear a girl call me a good little slut
:::
12
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
imagining scenarios in my head and then upsetting myself
12
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Got 8 hours of sleep last night and like 10 the night before, why am I still tired and feel like shit though.
12
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
My little brother won't be coming over for summer. Nor will I be going to my parents house.
It's all fine. I can handle it. I can handle everything else so why not this?
12
Moss [they/them] - 1mon
::: spoiler addiction, recovery (good news!)
Its been two weeks today since I've been high, which I think is pretty good. I'm cutting back big time, because I was addicted. Like, it was a good week if there was more than one day where I wasn't high.
I ran out of weed last time I smoked anyway, and the barrier of having to text my dealer, pay for weed and collect it is enough to stop me from getting more. I've weaponised my executive dysfunction.
Last time I got high, it was also the first time in two weeks, and I had a better time than I had for months. I just stopped enjoying weed and started expecting it. Having it be an occasional way to chill is so much better than having it be a lifestyle
:::
11
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
::: spoiler spoiler
I've weaponised my executive dysfunction.
It's a powerful weapon. Use it wisely 0_o
:::
7
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I did briefly misread that as "I've weaponized my erectile dysfunction", which like, how?
6
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
Wrote up a draft for my mega already. All about Brazilian tradition festa junina and our amazing and delicious traditional food
11
lilypad [she/her, it/its] - 1mon
I dont have winter depression. I have summer rage. And summer hopelessness. And summer paranoia. And fuck summer. If it gets above 25°c its too hot. Fuck you sun fuck off and die I'd rather be cold in the dark than sweaty and cancerous from your indiscriminate and unyielding photonic blasts
11
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
I don't ever have to worry about either of my parents misgendering my gf but my dad runs through of list of her name sometimes because he forgets. Lydia, Vanessa, Amanda, Risa and so on, he got it right twice today at least
11
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Feels weird that our life is fairly precarious on one hand, but also like the best its been ever, or at least in like, 10-15 years. We have v cool new friends and sisters, new hobbies, more passion for life than ever and were starting to not hate our body too. Awawawa
11
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
People think about the "what would you tell your past self" question all wrong. Nearly everyone (who's trying to make a shit load of money) says things like buy apple, buy bitcoin. No what you need to tell them is the SELL price. If you go back and tell your old self "bitcoin 120k" you know to buy it because you know what it will sell for in the future. It's implied and not that hard to figure out that if bitcoin is going to 120k you should fuckin buy some. But if you're told to buy bitcoin in 2012 or whatever, you don't know when to sell. You could 10x your money and think you've made out like a bandit. You have to know where the top is.
This post inspired by the fact I'm going back to 2012, I'm done being an adult you all can figure it out. I'm going to be playing my dsi and pretending to be a dog not having adult conversations.
11
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Cute dream with my partner, dreamt I picked her up over my head and spun. Sex is fine and good but this was so whimsical
11
meler [she/her, pup/pup's] - 1mon
I realized today that I actually do still enjoy teaching. My current job is just completely opposite to anything I find enjoyable about it. So I guess it's nice that I'm not completely ruined of this stuff
11
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
My doctor has predictably told me to cut back on my E dosage since my labs came back with it at 528pg/mL. I remember seeing some research somewhere that the 100-200pg/mL WPATH range was extremely conservative and that 300-400pg/mL is closer to ideal. Anyone know of this (I didn't save it).
11
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Wpath is very conservative yes, they used post menopausal women to find a minimum amount for us. I think the absolute minimum to shut us up and see changes is likely too low.
That said I haven't seen studies suggesting 300-400, wouldn't surprise me.
I've seen some doctors say shgb is more important then E levels but I'd need to do more reading into it to give any kind of recommendation.
11
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
For pre OP monotherapy, dosages upwards of 200ug/ml are necessary to sufficiently suppress androgens. These dosages can be reached with injections without any problems, and side effects will be negligible, especially compared to anything that you get from spiro or cypro. I think with that in mind, even when we set aside where the ideal range for feminizing effects is, it is medically not justifiable to have a combined estradiol and anti androgen regimen instead of "high dose" monotherapy as the first line of treatment.
Edit: For clarification, the side effects from reasonable amounts of anti androgens would ofc still be insignificant compared to the risks of untreated gender incongruence, i'm just saying there's no need for the stuff when just giving people more E also does the trick with fewer side effects.
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
That's a really good point, even then I've heard of some women who need that 3-400 just to surpress T.
7
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
yeah, bodies are different from person to person, but 3-400 is still no big deal if it's needed
6
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
My last dose was ~600pg/ml. Lots of the guidelines are very conservative. Even 200-400 probably is. I've seen 750 floated as a better high end.
8
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
::: spoiler lewd
Sleep paralysis demon won't visit you no more if you enjoy it too much 😩 my freak level is three freaky
:::
11
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Gender care for me is shaving and using plenty of baby oil on my face and neck, makes me feel better and younger. I guess downing a lot of water too skin stuff is nice and if I don't make efforts towards it I get so much dead skin all over myself and it makes me feel awful.
11
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
Its just a shame how they get all that baby oil together 😔 all those babies just wrung out like a squeegee then stuck in water to rehydrate
14
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Does this hurt the baby
12
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
We assume babies don't feel pain. Easier that way
12
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Babies need jobs too you know
12
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
The only thing stopping me from trying to order prog even though the kind ladies of hexbear already tried to help me is that if my feminisation speeds up more I'll really really have no way of hiding from my parents. I can't deal with that shit on top of everything I'm already dealing with.
I don't know what to do. I should not alter my transition timelines for other people. I don't feel safe but I'm probably safe (I doubt my parents will kill me). But it still leaves the problem of taking more psychic damage. I got enough of that already.
11
SickSemper [she/her, comrade/them] - 1mon
Just rotating through the grab bag of activities people have already said: hair, nails, skincare, trying to get better at makeup. I have a routine where I’ll try some shit before taking a bath, shaving, and moisturizing. It’s a really all-in-one girl vibe
More expensive but one I’ve fallen in love with recently is tattoos. Lesbians love tattoos and it’s delightfully affirming to get cute gay art on my skin
11
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
It's basic, but doing makeup and shaving my legs both make me feel more comfortable with my gender.
11
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Also laser!
You, reading this, who wants laser hair removal but hasn't started yet. You will schedule your first appointment
12
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
I can't because of my hair color
Here's hoping for electro. But yes in the mean time, shaving and moisturizing do a lot of good!
9
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Facial hair does get more tolerable if you consistently get a nice clean shave.
You will schedule electrolysis.
9
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
Once I have income or insurance that will cover it I will. Actually depending on how long the wait list is to get in with a good place I might just schedule it now.
2
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I don't think the wait lists are that long, but your mileage may vary.
2
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I still gotta drive :/ then I will!
5
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
We will the moment we get a source of income again at the latest!
4
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
How many excuses am I allowed to make first?
2
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
There are basically three good excuses for people with dark hair: can't afford it, don't live within day trip distance of a laser place, and going to move in the next year.
2
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
I fall into the "can afford it but will make that excuse anyway"
2
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
2
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
Two new lobe piercings above my main one: one pink and one blue opal
10
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
fucking love shaving my legs and arms
10
imogen_underscore [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
i am generally pretty tomboy/butch coded but i have gotten back into shaving my whole body lately. feels amazing. also hair care is very important to me though i still feel like it's an area i can make a bunch of progress in. got a dykey wolfy bob cut lately after having long hair for ages and I've been experimenting with some new curl products (i have a light wave like 2-3c). also got my brows done for the first time in a while, i am good at doing them myself but it's a nice treat. next on my list is booking electrolysis cause I've plateaued a while back with laser progress. daunted by going no shave for 3-5 days beforehand though. love my trans comrades!
10
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
If this cycling between crying and dissociating could stop that'd be great
10
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
If you hadn't posted by tonight I was going to make an Antipope megathread.
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Working outside is soooo pretty, the sky, the water, the trees. Idk everything looks so beautiful and detailed and rich.
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I know the 80/20 "rule" is complete bullshit but I really hate doing the last 20% of the work. I'm close but everything left just kinda sucks. Almost like I just did the easy stuff while I could. Its just a bunch of BS left.
Okay maybe its like 40% left.
10
soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her] - 1mon
fairly sure i've been a bit manic for the past few weeks so my impulse control is lacking and i've spent way more than i can afford
BUT.... i have a new haircut and colour (i've been cutting it myself for 8+ years because poor - this is my first professional fem cut), new glasses (i stopped wearing my old ones years ago because they were manly), a new piercing (i daren't do this one myself), i started round 2 of laser (tria isn't doing anything any more), and i've bought some new (to me) clothes (still don't have a complete fem wardrobe though)
oh and i modified my workout earlier this year to focus more on butt/thighs and it's working
i'm feeling more comfortable with myself than i have in a long time (even made a new friend!), but i feel awful about spending so much money. but idk, it's gender self-care i think?
10
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
Cutting your own hair is so impressive :o
I really wanna get some more color in mine. I have an idea for a concept I wanna try but if I get it done professionally it's gonna be expensive (two colors in a pattern)
5
soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her] - 1mon
thank you! i wouldn't recommend cutting your own if you have straight hair, but waves and curls are good at hiding mistakes
maybe you could ask a colourist for a consultation so you at least have an idea of cost. or if you don't need peroxide, maybe you could try painting on some temporary colours (get a dye brush and bowl, sectioning clips, and arrange two mirrors so you can see behind your head). anti-dandruff shampoo will help to get the colour out faster if you don't like it
3
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler venting about hating emotions, lobotomy
Date idea, you take one of these:
and put it through my eye socket and cut the bit of my brain that makes me feel emotions. Then you can steal my wallet or whatever.
:::
10
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I am rehoming my very favorite snake tonight. I will still have one left who I plan on keeping. All the others are gone now. I am very sad but I hope he is better able to take care of her. She's picker. I'm just calling it now. I should have before. But hopefully she can be okay. I'm just very sad. I'll still have the one pet and that's enough. Just hard.
10
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
That's a sad thing, having to part with a pet. Hopefully she gets used to her new home soon.
6
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Thank you peanutbutter. He just took her. She is so great, I can't believe I haven't been able to give her what she needs. I'm so sad. At least I have ice cream.
5
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I've had two coworkers comment on my music at work:
Have you gone to a festival? You'd really like going to a festival (I would it's on my bucket list)
why are you listening to like changing room music
😭 What is this. Also tbf I do listen to stuff that's a lot, a lot softer then what I listen to at home. I just thought the contrast was funny.
10
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
Changing rooms have music?
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Apparently, I avoid that shit like the plague.
5
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Working from 1000 (yesterday) to 0325 (today) isn't the sad part. The really sad part is that I still failed. It's always like this. Sigh.
10
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
Sounds like years of me in grad school.
4
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Tragic! Did they give you any hugs or kisses on the forehead to make up for it?
4
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Most trans women do not require, or even necessarily benefit from, supraphysiological (higher than cis women) levels of estradiol!
There are a few considerations for target hormone ranges.
Bone density - It is good for your bones to average at least 100 pg/mL of estradiol.
Testosterone suppression - most preop trans women can suppress gonadal testosterone production with a sufficient dose of estradiol, no antiandrogen required. However! Most of us don't need very much estradiol to do this. It usually happens in the 100-200 pg/mL range. (For reference, the "standard dose" of 4mg EEn/week is actually a bit more than most of us require for monotherapy)
Feminization - this is a big question mark. We do not know exactly how much estradiol is required for the various aspects of feminization. Consider this though - cis women obviously feminize just fine at the hormone levels which are normal for them.
Potential downsides - supraphysiological estrogen levels can increase your risk of developing blood clots, and in the long term, can also increase the risk of breast cancer. There are also some people who suspect that very high esteogen levels can harm feminization (I don't know if this idea has real merit). I don't say any of this to scare you, just to point out there is some potential downside.
Given the above, I think it is very reasonable for trans women et al to use the target range of 100-200 pg/mL of estradiol.
And get your damn blood tested before you start messing around with weird HRT regimens!
I get my bloodwork done regularly (meaning every 6 months, which is honestly overdoing it after more than 3 years on E, but i get that done for free, so w/e). Also, 100-200ug/ml did not reliably allow me monotherapy pre surgery, i needed to go slightly above 200 in the through for that. This is the usual recommendation for monotherapy as well, and for some people levels like this would still not be sufficient towards that end. Different people have endocrine systems and recepteromes working in different ways.
Also, and most importantly, you are massively overstating the risk of blood clots, the widespread fear of this is outdated info based on non-estradiol contraceptives administered orally and this misconception is causing widespread harm in the treatment of trans women. Also, idk where the "weird HRT regimen" is coming from when i'm taking the standard dose you are citing yourself, or what a "weird HRT regimen" would even be when we're talking estradiol enanthate from a reliable vendor.
Edit: Also "supraphysiological" means lower than average cisfem ranges. What you mean is superphysiological.
14
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Supraphysiological and superphysiological both mean the same thing - more than would normally be found in the body.
3
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
How the fuck is this actually true. It is correct for some reason, but it does not make sense that two opposite terms mean the same thing.
3
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
They're not opposite terms, they come from the same thing. Super and supra both mean above/superior to.
2
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
The opposite prefix would be sub-
2
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
If you actually need levels that high to suppress testosterone then that's all well and good, but some people deliberately aim for high estradiol levels even if it's two or three times what they actually need for suppressing T. That's what I meant by weird regimen, which I admit was probably an unnecessarily provocative way term.
3
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
Once more, these are not high levels for effective androgen supression, they are average. It is extremely rare that somebody who is pre surgery can do effective monotherapy in the dose range recommend by WPATH. I do not know anybody that works for personally. Lowering antiandrogen dosage, sure. Most trans women do not need 10mg cyproterone when they have been in the 100-200ug range for a while. But i've tried going off cypro in that range, it just didn't work, not for me and not for anybody i'm in community with. However, above 200ug/ml, it works perfectly for almost anybody i know, but some people actually do need to go above 300.
Not that it concerns me, given that i do not have testicles anymore. I still find that lowering my dose just does not feel comfortable on an emotional level. My mood is just better when i'm on higher amounts. Which absolutely is a valid concern with HRT. Just as it absolutely is valid to experiment and find out for yourself what regimen works instead of relying on mfing endocrinologists, you can't trust these people.
4
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I'm usually near the top of the WPATH recommended range, and my testosterone levels are under control. In this study about a quarter of participants were within the 100-200 pg/mL range, and more than 80% of that group had suppressed T, whether or not they used an antiandrogen. It's really not rare for that amount of estradiol to be effective by itself.
1
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
Once more, these wre not my results and if i would want people to dismiss what i have to say about my lived experience i could just talk to a cis person instead. I'm glad to hear that what the doctor orders is working out for you, but i do not care and i do not want you to barge in here and tell people how they have to dose when they are the tiniest amount over your holy WPATH guidelines. That gatekeepy shit doesn't fly with me. Cut it out.
2
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
I politely disagree (but not with the getting it tested, that's important). More there's simply not been enough study on transition, because of structural transphobia.
Cis women for a lot of their life whiplash from extremes of estrogen with their ovulation and menstruation, sometimes going from as low as 100pg/ml to over 1000pg/ml in days. It's wild. As an aside in pregnancy they can hit like 6-7000. It's crazy cool.
I really disagree that a trans woman having a level of maybe ~700 is Superphysiological.
Recent studies (with admittedly low numbers) have shown high estrogen with progesterone gives the best breast growth. Low and slow is an old wives tale.
DVT risks are overblown from older synthetic estrogens and premarin which are different from bioidentical estrogen.
There was a baffling study too about breast cancer that noticed trans women had a much lower breast cancer risk than cis women even when confounding factors like time on estrogen were matched. Which really needs to be focused on because it might help cis breast cancer risk too.
All in all there simply needs to be way more studies and data. But my vibe is that historically the management of trans women has been deprivation not oversupply of necessary hormones
And I'm literally putting my money where my mouth is, in two hours I'm going to have a 200mg estrogen implants put in my butt by my doctor. I'm going to be glowing pink and levitating.
13
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
I want to major in hormone studies. This is the future the left wants
9
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I think this would be an admirable thing to dedicate yourself to.
4
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I don't have studies but I have seen reports that cycles do help feminization. Pregnancy obviously does.
Would love to see the studies/levels if you could.
The largest increase was seen in the group who also increased their estradiol dosage
9
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Thank you. Wish the full study wasn't locked but I appreciate it
6
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Yeah I'm waiting for the full text to drop.
6
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Isn't the Dutch idea of "high estrogen" basically the same as the WPATH range of 100-200 pg/mL e2? I thought the Dutch standard was 55-110 pg/mL, and that's definitely too low for most people.
3
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Pregnancy
I think there's got to be thresholds of feminization that are only hit by certain hormonal levels. There are plenty of cis women who completed puberty to permanently go up bra sizes after pregnancy/breast feeding
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Yup- not going to pregnancy dose myself for a while yet but I will one day. There's more going on then just E but I've heard of people doing it.
Also hip growth.
6
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
I really disagree that a trans woman having a level of maybe ~700 is Superphysiological.
I don't think it would be a problem to have levels like this for one or two days a month, but I would consider it abnormal to be averaging numbers like that.
I do agree with you that there should be a lot more study in this area.
3
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
DVT risks are overblown from older synthetic estrogens and premarin which are different from bioidentical estrogen.
For sure, but there is still some risk from plain estradiol if it's much higher than normal.
2
tithonis [she/her] - 1mon
"Supraphysiological" for whom? What phase of the menstrual cycle? What percentile of E levels are you in (non-trans women don't get these checked routinely and somehow manage not to constantly throw clots)? During pregnancy E levels increase from baseline to sometimes >30,000 pg/ml E in the third trimester.
These are all "physiological" levels. Blood clots aren't a concern unless you smoke and are hypercoagulable. You can push your levels to whatever level you're comfortable with and be fine. Non-trans women have higher levels than WPATH recommends all the time for all kinds of reasons. I kept my E levels in first trimester range for a while for reasons that aren't really relevant here and it's fine.
1
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Supraphysiological compared to an average of the entire menstrual cycle of premenopausal cis women.
While their estradiol levels are usually quite high for a day or two out of each cycle around ovulation, their levels are much lower for the rest of the month. If your levels are that high all the time, that's abnormally high.
Pregnancy does involve very high levels of estradiol, but only for nine months or or so at a time, not for an indefinite number of years. Even so, pregnancy involves some health risks and it's not a state you'd want to recreate constantly.
I'm not saying that no one should ever use higher levels of hormones, just that it involves some additional risk and shouldn't be done without a specific goal in mind.
Someone has been suggesting this to me, that raising E levels would more closely mimic cis puberty. Which I don't hate as an approach, I'm just not sure if I need to I guess. The biggest drawback I see is using my vials faster. idk, anyone have thoughts?
8 months hrt no labs.
9
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
You should get labs first, then labs after 6 weeks on the new dose to see the difference, if you choose to go down that route. And yeah, you'll go through vials much faster. FWIW, I've been taking 7mg EEn and got my labs done for the first time in forever and my E was at 528pg/mL at trough. Definitely going to dial it back to 5mg going forward. I'm way past hitting my numbers and would rather have my vials last longer.
8
peanutbuttercupola [she/her] - 1mon
Probably a waste of estrogen without a lab to indicate otherwise.
7
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
I definitely agree that doing blood tests is a good idea. But also Estrogen's never wasted if you're putting it in your body IMO
7
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
You should get labs to verify your current levels. There is a lot of variation in pharmacogenomics, everyones liver is different (I remember one study showing 70% variation between siblings in pharmakinetics of some drug).
The idea of higher E levels to mimic puberty is interesting, I will say when I upped my doses and started having the intense emotional side of puberty - I backed off lol. I get that you wanna make it go faster but Im skeptical its much any faster than current dose plus time. I would be curious what the diy femme hrt people think of it, theres not tons of studies but they do some research.
400 sounds fine for what its worth as well if thats your personal target.
5
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
You guys keep giving me ideas of stuff to try to study. I need to become a pharmacist and researcher so much. Hopefully this year I'll start it, hopefully in a public university.
5
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I know, I am hoping to be able to get blood work soonish. Do injectibles go through your liver? I thought that was one advantage over E pills.
I mean I do, but someone had suggested it multiple times to me so I thought it was something I should investigate/ask others opinions on.
Okay cool, glad you think that range is okay though, I trust your view on that
5
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
First pass oral means it goes through your liver, is highly metabolized by it, then goes systemic. Parenteral routes like injections skip the first pass, but eventually your body is gonna start cleaning stuff out cause thats what it does. Short of a clone organ or whatever that produces estrogen/progesterone on its own, youll always be clearing out whatever you put in instead of homeostasis.
5
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
For those who take prog rectally, do you take 100mg or 200mg daily? I'm considering asking for more since I'm at 100mg now, but I know that the rectal route has much higher bio-availability so idk if it's even necessary.
9
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
Should I buy a plush shark? I think it's too hard to get a blahaj here, but I can buy a shark plushie
9
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Yes.
My shark:
10
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
Cute! I'll look for a cute shark plushie
9
moh [it/its] - 1mon
this will be you soon
5
Better_with_Gender [pup/pup's, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler dysphoria
I really can't understand my gender other than 'trans' and its honestly just horrible. I don't relate to cis people but neither trans women or Non-binary people. Its feels awful because I may want to go to trans events, possibly connect with others, but I just can't. I end up feeling like I stick out around other trans people (Plus the other queer cis people that are at other events I've been to). I feel like I'm in a completely different world to them, they know what they want out of transitioning but I don't, or at least can formulate something of their gender.
I've been staring at my gender for years now and while HRT has helped a lot, I can't visualise what my gender is in my head, it ends up being an empty void with not even my current self in there. Sometimes reading theory helps but it brings more questions without giving answers and only helps understand the world around me, but not understand me.
:::
In other things, does anyone have advice in getting a haircut/style? I do need one but the idea of shortening my hair is uncomfortable and put me off a lot.
My hair is literally my old boy haircut that I stopped getting cut about 6 years ago now, its been cut once since for split ends but that's it.
I probably need to get it cut for split ends again but possibly for styling as well? I like the idea of some areas being shaved down, not to skin but somewhat close, though not sure if on the sides or the back or both.
9
soyaEnjoyer [they/them, she/her] - 1mon
it's fine to just not have a gender and it's fine to flip-flop on that at any point for any reason. gender is just kind of weird, and i think that the more you think about it, the more arbitrary and nonsensical it seems. if you think you're some kind of outlier around other trans people, you probably just need to meet more trans people.
for your hair, the hairdresser can cut it into layers (i.e. change the shape of it so that it sits better) without taking from the length. and it sounds like you probably want an undercut, which is the correct and proper choice. maybe have a scroll on pinterest for inspo? https://uk.pinterest.com/ideas/curly-undercut-women/903783996609/
3
Better_with_Gender [pup/pup's, she/her] - 1mon
I don't feel like an outlier, whenever I've been with trans people everything has felt fine, but afterwards when its over then I end up not feeling anything. I haven't been able to be social for a while which doesn't help.
I'm not trying to feel different, I do like connecting and just existing as a trans person with others but I can't ignore the feelings that something is up with me that may or may not separate me from everyone else.
But yeah, gender does get pretty nonsensical thinking about it more and more. Plus seeing how different cultures interpret gender makes the concept as a whole feel confusing? How gender is defined across the world and in some places its honestly beautiful yet others its so arbitrary that I'm wondering why does it have to exist like that at all there.
An undercut sounds perfect. Thank you. My hair length is around shoulder blade length atm so it would be nice to grow it out longer while adjusting the length of the hair around my head so its not just generic long hair.
2
RION [she/her] - 1mon
The cookies turned out pretty good I think! I gave some to my good friend and she said she liked them. Though she did only eat half of one...
9
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Oooh I love cookies
Sweets in general tbh...
6
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Sometimes I remember there is a 1997 Home Alone 3 with a different kid, who by himself, sick with measles chicken pox defeats a team of 4 European terrorists backed by the DPRK lead by a guy who is almost certainly ex-Stasi (or other equivalent).
9
Better_with_Gender [pup/pup's, she/her] - 1mon
In terms of gender self-care? I used to dye my hair to help feel comfortable with my gender. Having nice hair always felt good and euphoric.
Also making accessories and modifying clothes. I have a pair of trousers that I would paint kinda in a tattoo style. Would be nice to add more and wear it out much more often. Just need to make it fit me again.
9
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Finished Manhunt! Finale was p over the top (which were not sure if thats a criticism cuz we did rly enjoy it) but bweh it made us cry anyway
3/3 for total bangers for trans horror weve read so far (Exquisite Corpse, Brainwyrms, Manhunt)
9
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
I liked Moonflow if you want another, apparently my book taste is trans horror lol. Theres also Tell Me Im Worthless
Manhunt still makes me cry when I think about it
7
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
We always want more hehe, these sound rly good!
6
TerminalEncounter [she/her] - 1mon
Sure, theres Hell Followed With Us and Compound Fracture too. But thats the end of my personal list lol. Its such a weird niche.
5
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1mon
Ty anyway!
Seems to be a fairly fast growing niche at least, looking up trans horror weve been seeing lots of books from the last few years specifically (which is nice :3)
4
XiaCobolt [she/her] - 1mon
Cuckoo is probably my favourite Gretchen Falker Martin book
2
RION [she/her] - 1mon
man being sick (NOT related to my gastro stuff) blows. I missed the few minutes of my therapy session and my brain was so muddled that it was hard to talk about important stuff.
9
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
My mayor is Muslim
My bagel Jewish
The Pope on my side
Knicks in Five!
(I live 1000+ miles away from NYC and have never visited)
9
WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them] - 1mon
One of the obvious eggs I watched stream a few times like last year apparently cracked at some point. Still have another who I've been waiting years for tho.
9
SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, she/her] - 1mon
Sometimes you just can't help but set the egg timer.
8
RION [she/her] - 1mon
6
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler dating
What's t4t like in your 30s? I'm in the back half of my 20s and I don't click with trans people in their early 20s. Is there less poly people in that age range?
:::
9
SuperZutsuki [they/them] - 1mon
Highly dependent on your local scene. In my area the young t4t scene is incredibly poly and gets less so as you go up in age
7
Alisu [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
I just stick to people close to my age and we click ok
6
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
I hope everyone had a wonderful first week of pride
8
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
You would think that someone who's 22 years wouldn't be larping as a sailor trynna go all "I can smell when it's going to rain" but no, these people exist.
When it starts raining without them predicting it they start saying shit like "it's not supposed to rain right now, the clouds aren't right", as if mother nature has made a mistake and should correct herself
8
EstraDoll [she/her, he/him] - 1mon
Arranging Hookups To Host For Motivation To Clean Your Depression Nest: A Self Care Guide for Depressed Sluts by u/EstraDoll: Now in bookstores near you
8
moh [it/its] - 1mon
at the moment my gender care is mostly making art of my fursona. just finished cross stitching a pixel sprite of it and am so happy just looking at it ^_^
8
SockOlm [she/her] - 1mon
is your fursona in your profile picture? if so it's very cute!
4
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
Tomorrow the strategy is just to do my best be ready for set backs and breathe, I've got some good luck/vibes if I need to dip into them I will as I do my best to navigate the American healthcare system
8
Arahnya [fae/faer, he/him] - 1mon
hope everything goes well!!
6
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
ty I got a game plan and if it fails I'll do some planning
6
GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 1mon
got myself a ninja creami, as a treat, and it's actually really good at making protein drinks into ice cream. Like shockingly excellent. now i just gotta start baking muffins cause i have like three bags of unflavoured protein powder that i definitely won't be drinking anymore.
::: spoiler cw: doctors, depression, mentions of suicidal ideation
also had a visit at a GP to get my referral for the psychiatric side of the public health care. trying to make myself less depressed and suicidal so i can get the bottom surgery, i guess.
:::
8
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Fed up with both my jobs. Hate both. Trying to lock in for the last like month or two so I can save more but fuck.
Also when I move I'm probably going to be making like 35k, no idea how to do dick with that. Is that even enough to be independent? I feel like damn near everyone is living with a partner, two incomes, still barely making it.
Also thinking about structural transphobia at work, fml. Why the fuck did u have to be born into this. In such a bad place rn.
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
Speaking of the move we've got multiple people interested in the house, doing showings next week.
7
RION [she/her] - 1mon
No I'm not crying watching the Northernlion Road to Empress 2 playthrough
It's not happening
7
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
MY MAYOR IS MUSLIM
MY BAGEL IS JEWISH
THE POPES ON MY SIDE
KNICKS WON IN 5
7
inTheShadowOf [she/her] - 1mon
My friends and I watched Twilight and tbh it was pretty fun. Guess we're watching them all now
7
meler [she/her, pup/pup's] - 1mon
grok, update my pronouns
7
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Kill object oriented programming
7
JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them] - 1mon
::: spoiler mental health, depression, SI
The heat and humidity have been really getting to me. The AC in our apartment is pretty useless, and since we're moving out soon the landlord has no issues in making any improvements until we move out. I can tolerate it in the morning, but once it gets to the afternoon I have been suffering depressive symptoms, unable to enjoy much and experiencing intrusive SI. I need to figure out a way to get out of the apartment and find somewhere with decent AC that we can hang out in, but I feel really self-conscious and potentially dysphoric if I linger in a place without dressing up and applying makeup, which I can't really justify with the heat. I'll figure something out. Just can't wait for the move.
:::
On a happier note, my partner and I have been watching Columbo after listening to the Be Gay Solve Crimes episode on the show during a recent car trip. We are enjoying it immensely.
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
God I just hate work lately. Fuck this place.
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
The feeling of having to shave my fucking legs again
Disgusting
7
GayTuckerCarlson [she/her] - 1mon
Because of the economic situation your 20's are now between the ages of 25-35
7
SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them] - 1mon
7
Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them] - 1mon
Up with trans!
7
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler negativity, dysphoria, transphobia
I hate being trans. I hate this experience. I hate society. I hate all the things I have to do. I hate the healthcare I need to hopefully feel normal in my body. I HATE SOCIETY. ALL OF THEM FUCKERS. I hate everything being wrong. I hate all the things being trans robbed me of. I hate the depression it gave me. I hate this being it. I hate cis people. I hate how they view us. I hate how even simple things get distorted and trampled on.
I feel very deflated. I could give up and die right now.
Why did I even feel so good lately. I didn't understand it at the time and I still don't.
:::
7
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
6
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I have everything I need to fix this laptop but the will to do it
6
Bolshechick [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
I got sun burnt as hell yesterday, but at least I have a little bikini burn line and it feels very gender
6
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
For a brief moment today I felt like I was actually useful. It turns out I had made a mistake. But not before letting everybody know about my great result (which was incorrectly generated).
Now I face the choice of telling the truth and facing consequences, or trying to fix the mistake and actually get good results before anyone notices.
If I can't, I'll tell them. But it's just ... I'd have liked to have at least one W.
6
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
I don't got enough stories about grass touching I can tell. Even though go outside and literally touch grass for hours everyday! It doesn't count because it is not a social or productive activity. It is just a distraction and cheap/easy endorphins.
NYT Cooking staff will be spared in the coming revolution if they turn out well
5
BountifulEggnog [it/its, she/her] - 1mon
::: spoiler si
This is the worst I have felt in like a month. My passive si is back. Fuck me.
:::
5
lilypad [she/her, it/its] - 1mon
::: spoiler Ok so. My brain. It hates me. (Cw halfvent about anxiety)
There is no reason for me to be disliked by some people I recently met at work. But. I am certain that I am despised. Why? No fucking clue. Its not rational. I can see that its not rational. But knowing that doesn't make things somehow better... I can see the things I'm doing wrong and I feel powerless to change them. How do you modify your emotional reactions? How do you stop assuming people hate you? I can see that I'm incorrect, explicitly incorrect. But I cant figure out how to get that sight internalized into my emotional reality. I end up certain that I am alienating others, certain that I am behaving strangely and that they dislike me. The fantasies of getting hurt by others keep growing. I can see that its all incorrect, but I dont know how to stop it from happening, the thoughts are automatic and they dont make sense. I dont even recognize what's happening most of the time. I would like my brain to be kinder to me please. And every attempt to address it by anyone external results in fear and withdrawal, which only makes those thoughts all the stronger.
:::
5
Wmill [they/them, fae/faer] - 1mon
I was thinking of making one of my plushies my therapist but at this point they're all like my kids and I'd need a new possibly older plushies to do that. I'll figure something out maybe I'll make something or repurpose something to talk to.
5
SwitchyandWitchy [she/her] - 1mon
I interacted with 3 strangers yesterday and was gendered correctly by each of them! I wasn't even dressed femme, just a t-shirt and jeans. I was feeling like utter shit yesterday mentally and that stopped me from sharing, but I didn't want this positivity to just die in my sea of depression. I also really hope the injection I did a little while ago helps with that.
4
sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Ok so I need to calm tf down and analyse rationally. I overestimated myself. I should have just stuck to learning physics shit (aka my actual subject) and never gotten involved with master's level machine learning.
It's not my field, expertise or passion. I can't be the master of everything (pun intended)!
4
Carcharodonna [she/her] - 1mon
Mina the Hollower is so good. I’m obsessed. I haven’t played a game this engrossing in a long time.
SwitchyandWitchy in traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns
Trans Megathread from June 8th to June 14th
I forgot that it's my mega week so no big info dump this time. Instead I bring a question: how do you practice gender self-care? Do you have any activities or rituals that make you feel more comfortable in your gender? Painting my nails and taking care of my hair are the most consistent ones. These shouldn't even be considered gendered activities by society, but I missed out on having long hair and painted nails when I was younger because of my assigned gender, so doing them now feels validating and gives me confidence.
Join our public Matrix server!
https://rentry.co/tracha#tracha-rooms
As a reminder, please do not discuss current struggle sessions in the mega. We want this to be a little oasis for all of us and the best way to do that is not to feed into existing conflict on the site.
Also, be sure to properly give content warnings and put sensitive subjects behind proper spoiler tags. It's for the mental health of not just your comrades, but yourself as well.
Here is a screenshot of where to find the spoiler button.
::: spoiler spoiler
:::
HELLO THIS IS THE MEGA SIGN UP POST/LIST POST
if you have a preferred week please tell me
* after name denotes someone who has posted before and will be skipped by first-time posters
Reporting for duty
put me in
New thread is up!
Honestly, demanding of trans women to assume good faith from men instead of thinly veiled transmisogynist hatred is, in itself, a form of structural transmisogyny. To request that we remain civil and polite and keep smiling in a world that wants us dead is violence.
It took two years but I have a job again. Hell yeah.
Gender self care for me has been learning about transfeminism and refusing to tolerate disrespect. I'm done being treated like I'm less than. People love to tell women to shut up, they especially love to tell trans women to shut up. Especially people who wouldn't tell other women to shut up. We all deserve better than that.
This is a great reminder for me to start that transfeminism book club I was talking about.
funny side effect of being trans woman: After decades of my life spent not being a girl and living in total jealously of women, I routinely cannot believe misogyny is a real thing. Like, logically I know that many people genuinely hate women, but emotionally I actually struggle to believe it's true. I can hear people say explicitly misogynist things and all I can think is "there's no way he actually thinks that, right? that's just a bold statement for attention, he can't genuinely believe that" and no matter how many times I tell myself "no they genuinely think that" I just emotionally don't believe it. Women are obviously so much better than men, right? those are just sour grapes 🙄
::: spoiler harassment from men Men who go to bars should have a bomb implanted at the base of their skulls and every non male patron given the detonator
Nothing makes my skin crawl like some gross old man fucking grabbing my shoulder while walking past
"Have a good night"
DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIEDIE :::
I'm feeling a lot better about my body. I still don't really love the overall picture but, there are a lot more features that are good then I thought/noticed.
Also took a picture last night and my tits look fucking huge.
also also I didn't realize until last night how much they bounce around lol, that was fun.
Dread it, run from it... huge tittification comes for us all
In all honesty mine aren't particularly big, I just have one or two shirts that really flatter them
That is GREAT to hear
Your boobs will get even bigger too. Mine seemingly haven’t stopped growing and it’s to the point where I’m having significant difficulty boymoding for work because of it.
Glad to hear you're getting over the harder part. It gets much better from here on out.
I'm probably being dramatic but I think we should kill everyone who makes the "can't play games without a joystick" joke about trans women
You're not being dramatic, people who obsess over our genitals are a plague. Honestly doesn't matter which way, but after half of my friend group got bottom surgery and i've seen over and over again how many gatekeeping hoops we had to jump through, how much work friends of mine who went for vaginoplasty instead of an orchi still put into recovering, how much relief the entire thing brings them and how little cissies understand any of that, i have a particular soft spot for the girls who've gotten their soft spot. Not to discount the struggles of any woman with a dick, i'm one myself, i have to worry way too much about that, but i'll fight tooth and nail for my friends who fought for their right to have a pussy. It's just nobody's business what's in our pants. Even people who want to date us hands-down don't get to ask anything besides "do i have to keep bottom dysphoria in mind or not". That's literally all that matters when somebody wants to go down on a trans girl and if they wonder about anything else they do not deserve to breathe the same air as us.
🔥 ✍️
Nah we agree we gotta kill ppl who say chaser ass shit like that, especially w the "noo dont get bottom surgery :(" undertone
Ngl after being sexually harassed and sexually obsessed over, getting bottom surgery is going to bring me a level of peace I didn't expect from it.
well we're girlfriends now so I guess you were right @sodium_nitride@hexbear.net
I stand for the flag
and kneel for the cross 
Thank you for your service
Glad to be of service!
I really need to stop playing incremental games, it's adhd bait. Something about the combination of numbers go up and extreme micromanaging short circuits my brain
OMG IM SO GAY AND HOMOSEXUAL LESBIAN GAY WOMEN I LOVE WOMEN GAY WOMEN
IS SHE GAY OR EUROPEAN?
(She's gay)
Sometimes both!
I got my Estrogen implant this morning!
So Australia is a bit odd when it comes to feminizing HRT. We have all the tablets, gels and patches that are used in menopause treatment for cis women. But we don't have easily available injections. This is because no pharmaceutical has bothered to get Therapeutic Goods approval in Australia because the market of trans women is presumably too small. So many trans femmes do DIY injections if they want them. Or they can be made by a compounding chemist (who crunches tablets and blends them into an oil suspension), but that's expensive with a poor shelf life (taking away two really good things about injections).
But our endocrinologists fucking love implants for trans women. Which is weird because implant are considered a bit niche the rest of the world. It's probably in part because we had a trans woman who was an endocrinologist in the 1980s (which is wild) who advocated them heavily. They've fallen out of vogue for Cis Women in menopause too. But this means I got a GP to put an implant in my butt today.
I have been on progynova sublingually for 15mths. Most doctors won't do an implant until you've been on a year. Ostensibly this is make sure you tolerate the estrogen, I think it's because Cis people are squeamish about less reversible forms of HRT. Because it's not easily reversible. It would need to be fished out under surgery instead of just being stopped. Which is super cool.
I got 200mg put in (2x100mg implants) which I paid about 200 Australian dollars from a compounding pharmacy. It cost 280 AUD for the GP to put it in my butt. They gave me local anaesthetic. Made a 1cm cut. Pushed them in with a device, then put a single dissolvable stitch. On the surface this is a lot of money. But with two implants I'm probably going to have high levels of estrogen for 12-18months straight! The doctor said I shouldn't check my levels for 3-6 months because I'm going to be at pregnancy levels for a little while!
Right now I'm sitting a little sorely, I kind of feel great, but it's probably also placebo.
@RION@hexbear.net girl for real you need a doctor.
seconding this pls see an actual healthcare pro what you are describing certainly does not fall under "diet issues"
I'm definitely gonna upgrade to a stool softener to get things under control first. If it keeps coming back I'll see a doctor I promise
SEE A DOCTOR NOW
BountifulEggnog's hot take of the day:
ALL trans people should be required to take a 4 week course in endocrinology specializing in sex hormones OR listen to an autist yap about the subject for 6 hours. Sick of trans people I love getting fucked over because they didn't know better.
BountifulEggnog's COLD take of the day:
::: spoiler All endos should face the wall Slightly hyperbolic :::
I have a friend who has come out to me as trans several times but he insists on just ignoring it and not doing anything about it. Any time I discuss anything serious with him he tends to stop responding or change the subject. I’m not sure there’s anything I can do and it hurts.
I definitely understand why you'd repress, and it took me a solid year before getting on hrt because I'm a coward. But at the same time knowing how much worse things will get if you do is what broke me out of it and now I feel way better.
Definitely sucks to see someone do that, one of the most self destructive things you can do TBH
I'm proud of you for starting, by the way
Thank you
It was really scary, still is, but its working out good right now. Couldn't have done it without all the support from people here. Thanks again PeanutButter :) really nice reminder.
Me for the past 6 years
What's the next step for you?
Decide what I actually want for my body and my gender identity, and face the consequences if my partner can't handle it. I guess.
(This will probably take another 6 years)
I was in a situation where I wasn’t transitioning “to spare my partner” is what I would tell myself. Rapid fire 6 months of the most effective therapy I’ve ever participated in:
And then in retrospect, despite some initial bumpiness and thanks to some consequent couples therapy, any initial negativity has been replaced by genuine acceptance and enthusiasm. And I found that despite that, I still had the hesitancy to put effort into my transition. The hesitancy I think for me comes from a place of internalized transphobia more than anything.
I’m not saying any of this is a one-to-one fit for you but’s it’s my experience and what you said reminded me of it.
They are accusing me of attenpting to copy them, and that I'm only feeling this way because of societal expectations for men, and I'm just running away
I also got the “societal expectations for men” thing from my partner for a while. That must be so invalidating to hear. Your partner is trans then if I’m understanding correctly?
Nonbinary afab, no interest in physical transition
I gotta say, having spent far too long in a relationship with someone who didn't respect me for who I am, and speaking on behalf of everyone I know who has escaped a similar situation:
Whatever the consequences are, staying in the closet/tolerating the abuse any longer than you absolutely have to is so, so, so much worse than you think it might be. ::: spoiler abuse It took me a year to escape once I had my mind made up for good. I'd known on some level I needed to get out for a few years before that but I was isolated from my friends and family. I tried to proceed in secret, things blew up anyways, and now a year out on the other side of it I finally have a life worth living. :::
Do whatever you have to do, for you. Transitioning will show you really quick who your friends really are and aren't. Someone who loves you won't demand you stay in the closet for them.
It sounds like waiting 6 years has not been an effective strategy for you - maybe you should try making some small changes and see how you feel about them. A month of HRT, for example. Some makeup to make your face more masculine or feminine. New name and pronouns. Things of this nature.
Some of the most life changing advise I got was that the effects of estrogen are reversible for months, but you’ll start to feel psychological effects within weeks. I felt them within days, easily. Like just the idea that HRT was something you could experiment with rather than something that had the finality of a definite decision.
That was an important part of it for me trying it out and I had similar experience with knowing it was for me way before any physical changes happened. Still knowing I would eventually take it to experiment was long separated from actually taking it because I was still worried about work and thought I'd save up for a couple more years just in case. Fortunately, some other stuff came up and I decided I'd be starting very soon.
That's how I was for about 2 years (and to some extent still have been for the last two years other than hrt). Not sure there would have been much anyone could do. The only times I would really do something remotely resembling doing something was events where costumes were a thing and I could get sometime nudging me along.
Forcefem/masc (as the case may be)
Would be forcefem lol. Just using he/him pronouns because those are currently his preferred and he hasn’t indicated whether he thinks he’s a woman or nonbinary if he’s thought about it at all.
Deadass I would tell her I'm going to pick a name for her if she doesn't do it herself.
Absolutely fascinated by older people (like 90 or more) who are completely chill about me being trans.
And I'm like are you really this cool? Or is this just so beyond your comprehension that I'm just a tall dame with a deep voice.
"If she says she's a dame then she's a dame", ime. The kind of gender policing we tend to take for granted had very different contours mid-century and before when anyone in their 90s today would be making up their minds on this stuff. Also, you're past 90, who gives a shit about gender? The nice lady with a lovely deep voice and I had a delightful conversation.
It's only in the late 1960s and beyond that the contemporary gender policing apparatus we live with now. it begins to become legible. IIRC passports and driver's licenses didn't even have a field for gender until the early 70s.
People from the silent generation being more accepting of trans people than boomers seems to be quite common. It should really be studied.
I see the light rail pass by and i immediately have to think of how i could ask her what model that is and she would start infodumping in her sweet voice that i haven't heard for so long. I can't wait to see her again, feel that tight embrace that immediately grounds me every time and lets me know deep down that i'm safe, watch her lean forward like she does now every time when i cradle her beautiful face in both hands to kiss her on the forehead right above that little scar. This is why every time i see a train now, i think that this, too, is yuri.
::: spoiler Okay day 1 post implant. I was told everyone is different some people the estrogen kicks in minutes others in days to weeks.
I think I'm the former. I thought yesterday it was just placebo but no I feel like I'm like a pink glowing super Saiyan. I had so strange but not bad dreams, I'm full of energy, I'm smiling harder than I ever had, but I'm also bursting into tears. It's like when I first started HRat but X10. My breasts hurt.
It's meant to level out in a few weeks but wow. :::
Gave myself psychic damage introducing myself to a new intern at work. She gave her name and pronouns, I gave my stupid guy name and hesitated before just saying what my job is...
I like the name Ruby I think. Might try testing it out
Good news, at least, is if she gave her pronounds unprompted she's probably safe to come out to?
And those pronouns being she/they would support that concept
Booked a laser consultation!
Its been a really good two months
Going to get my permit (again) today, hopefully license by the end of July if not sooner because I've got gay shit I wanna do.
By the end of summer I will be a car driving gay. I'll have a job, hit my savings goal (Although I have to buy a car so it won't last long at that number), my one year hrt anniversary will be coming up. I'll be in a good state and a city instead of bumfuck nowhere. If things work out I'll get to have two bucket list experiences I've been wanting.
god what a time. This time next year I'm hoping to be in such a good spot.
i’m so happy for you! car driving gay is such a great position to be in, you get so many friends and the only price is driving them places
Next year you'll be in a better spot! You already climbed up. You'll keep climbing.
stumbled on a treasure trove of good fanfics, Trans Girl Link / Zelda. seems pretty good thus far. shame i've never actually played any of the gaymes, here's to hoping the cultural osmosis carries the day.
Am girl took 150 mg edible
Idk how to explain things to my parents especially being
so to them I'm hijo still which I don't mind too much. Had a moment with my dad where he got a good look at my gf and he did the whole "hell yeah" and patting me on the back when he saw how pretty she is, my mom and sibling agree but I can't lie it did hit differently. I've told them a lot about her and they approve like I mentioned before, they like her good heart and her smarts too.
waow she must be real pretty
So fucking pretty you wouldn't believe
down with cis
::: spoiler spoiler happy pride ya'll! hitting 3 years next week.
:::
I love dating a trans woman so much, its so awesome!!! 🥹🥹🥹
I'm reading through the Godot documentation on tweens and found the most magnificent method name of all time
Being masc presenting my mom and sibling like taking me to appointments with them, office ladies defer to me with greater respect and help us more. All to say that's some whack shit fr, my size is also useful for fending off predators because I'm a hippo you need to remember this reader 🦛
I practice gender by going out with my tits out, proud and loud
Usually I don't wear anything that's particularly revealing or tight. Yesterday, decided to try on a shirt my mom had gotten me a year ago (it was a little snug then) and it was really tight. Decided to just go out with that and no bra just to spite my mom since I knew she would be strongly against me wearing such. Was worried I'd be uncomfortable like that, but it wasn't bad.
That's cause it is silly XP
Shes right you know
It's valid as hell to be dysphoric about it, but it is a pretty voice. It's already androgynous and maybe even on the fem side of androgynous to my ear. You definitely won't need as intense voice training as many of us to get to where you want I bet.
Does this site remove blatant transmisogyny? /srs
::: spoiler transphobia Like you should genuinely get site banned if you describe people online recognizing trans women are more oppressed then cis women as a "dangerous trend". What in the terf rhetoric are we upvoting here.
I am complaining here in hopes a mod with pull sees this and takes SOME action, this is not a "struggle sesh", this is disgusting. :::
Yeah, report it
I did, nothing has happened. There's only one mod in that comm, who's last post is from two years ago.
Also admins are the only ones who can siteban, do they get user reports?
It has fortunately been removed now, but that was such a trainwreck of a post. Literally not a single truthful sentence in there, it would have been impossible to handle that subject in a worse way and then several cis dudes show up in the replies and say they are "here to listen" because obviously they do not know better. Horrible.
Honestly I just latched onto that one line so hard because of how ridiculous and terfy it is. I didn't look at much of the rest of it. Pisses me off that was allowed to go u checked, 50+ upvotes, no one removes it.
Yea I saw that too, I hope they actually did check back with the thread later to see all our problems with it. Also thank you for having the discussion with the other user in the comments, I really didn't have the patience yesterday.
OP made a selfcrit post after so I think she felt some level of bad, I still don't like her response to what I said though. But I didn't persue it any further. I know you were also pretty bothered by the post so maybe you want to look at it.
It was horrible though, pisses me off to see rhetoric like that on this site of all places. And that it was just allowed to sit there for 16+ hours, get upvotes, whole thing.
Yeh, i have replied to her self crit post, i think there's some stuff that she still just doesn't fully grasp. And it's tiring. I mean, the exchange with the other person in the original thread was also tiring, but ultimately it turned out to largely be a misunderstanding and motivated by concern for a loved one, so it ended on a peaceful note. I am actually considering to do my own effortpost take on the GAM now, it has been an important influence for me and everything, but idk when i have the spoons for that.
Cool, I'd been checking it to see if there was any discussion but I'm glad you responded to it. Your response was spot on and I'm glad someone else was able to, I'm not always the best at that type of thing.
I think that'd be really cool if you did, i think it should be addressed but I'm not the right person for it. Understand the spoons though take care of yourself :meow-hug:
I never finished GAM so I didn't want to reply, but I considered upvoting just to promote someone else refuting the post (which I stopped reading after the part about India...)
Oh wow I missed all that nonsense
Shonen fans would loose their minds if the mc had this kinda arc
Mom is so worried about me having to take anti-depressants and side-effects and it being bad for me that she can't see she is the biggest reason I need them.
::: spoiler just venting cw: general lgbtphobia, sex I feel like I have to hide myself to go out like I want to, sneak around and stuff, this is awful. Can I just dress however I want to and not have to hide the fact that I'm doing so? Can you please let me be myself openly? You seem so worried about the fact that I need anti-sad pills, but are you not worried WHY I'M SAD??
I was trying to go out with people, but this might not work for now. I need to move out I think... Or try to have another talk with her It's just so exhausting having to
I wish I could just do like cis het couples and go wherever, have dates and not be afraid to be myself in public, then take someone home or go to their house and it be all ok, no questions and no need for excuses. My sister could date a guy and just be ok, why can't I date a trans woman and be ok like seriously this shit just irks me so much AAAAAAAAAAAAA :::
i love being gay
It's pretty great. Especially when you have someone to be gay with, that shits the best.
::: spoiler genitals Cis people have no curiosity whatsoever. A friend I've known for decades didn't know that estrogen makes your balls shrink and erections difficult to maintain. One of your oldest friends has been on HRT for 18 months and you never looked up its effects? My friend is lovely but that lack of curiosity boggles my mind. :::
::: spoiler spoiler They absolutely are pretty incurious, but do you really want your friends to be thinking about your genitals? :::
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler Can't say I've never thought about theirs. I'd gladly answer any personal questions if they had any and have joked about some of the effects. :::
::: spoiler spoiler Yea tbh it made me feel a little uncomfy when one of my friends knew a lot about the effects of E, like idk you don't need to know all that. :::
::: spoiler spoiler I don't care at all, tbh. I'm very open and poly and would make out with a good chunk of my friends if they were into it. :::
Okay it's been a week since I was absolutely sure I got myself fired, and instead I'm getting even more responsibilities at work. I'm manifesting now. I've decided I'm not going to get in trouble, I'm the main character and the universe will listen to me.
I love stumbling into queer spaces. I joined a server for a niche jrpg series I really like and it seems like everyone there is queer in some way.
i've started to brush my hair with more uh intent. 10 strokes, then flip it all over my face dangling down and 20 strokes, then flip it to both sides of my face and brush it down. gets rid of all the loose hair and it honestly looks pretty good, have gotten compliments and it's the only thing i changed about my haircare.
done in the morning and before bed
I want to go on an adventure.
Me too. I really want to travel.
What kinda adventure do you want to go on?
Went to an event in the city my trans femme coworker invited me to! It started out as a bigger group of trans girls but after a bit we just kinda peeled off and hung out by ourselves. Pretty much just talked, checked out some vendor stalls, got some interesting food and drink.
The event itself wasn't completely my jam but it was good to get out and socialize. Got to know my work friend a little better too
Might finally get the chance to take mushies in a few weeks. Wanted to really bad for years now. In a good head space lately too.
hope you have fun! 😸
Thanks! I'm looking forward to it so much. Just hoping it works out.
It's really amazing!! Have a good time!
Why the fuck my self esteem so low?
I live in an ideal environment to transition and go on dates and make friends but I don't do any of it because I think of myself as trash.
::: spoiler content warning
::: spoiler suicide
I get genuinely suicidal from thinking about missing assignments and shit.
:::
My gf so cool she says uwu all the time even in my dreams
fml. Put on sunblock 3x today too. Anyway putting aloe on all of it and planning to put sunblock on even more diligently
i love names chosen from animals, gemstone, nature, folklore / mythos, etc. Like wdym you named yourself after a seal; and its like, well look at them. 🦭 is just silly and cute
Me and the baddie I pulled by renaming myself Dugong 🦭👩
thats a pretty sick name ngl 😮
edit -- its derived from visayan / cebuano!! so cool
Weve been naming ourself after flowers :3
awe that's so wonderful 🥹
I'm taking a heels technique class (basically intro to dancing in heels) and it feels so affirming to get better at strutting my stuff
hell yeah, that sounds like so much fun! i didn’t even know that was a thing, i wore heels for the first time at a thing this weekend (black boots described as “kickass”) and could tell i needed some strutting practice, so good to know!
My (face) electrolysis is finally nearing the end. I still go in weekly but I'm doing full face clears in 45 mins. The hair is so sparse now that I haven't even bothered shaving for 3 weeks. It was a lot of pain to get to this point but not having to shave and feel dysphoric about it or worry about beard shadow while I'm out and about is so relieving
Hoping it happens faster than expected for you! Also hoping you don't have stubborn lip line hairs like me lol
that sounds really nice. what was your starting point like and approximately how many sessions have you had?
I started at 2 hours a week and that would be enough for like 1/3 of my upper lip. I started around Sept 2024 and have been doing it weekly minus stopping for a couple months for FFS, holidays and the occasional cancellation. Maybe close to 70 sessions now?
oh my god. i'm happy for you, but wow. i haven't shopped around (doing another round of laser atm) but a place that's been recommended locally is £145 ($195 US) per hour
Yeah it's way too expensive. I'm only able to get it because it's covered by my insurance
Thinking about trying out some more jewelry. I have one bracelet I made as part of a matching set with a friend that I wear a lot, but maybe a necklace would be cool? I'd want it to mean something though
::: spoiler sex This girl really wants to hookup, and I do too it's really exciting. She seems really great. But I am also still super nervous about it, never done anything before. Worried about feeling dysphoric or something, and expectations, and idk it's a lot. Like I obviously don't like my body, and am very unsure of what would actually be okay in real life because I haven't done it before. I think it'd be fun but I'm still really worried.
Idk if anyone has advice or anything :cheems: :::
::: spoiler spoiler Are they cis or trans? Because if they're trans I'm sure they'll understand. If they're cis, you probably need to gently prime them that you like them, but you've got a lot of you stuff, so if you get weird that's you, not them. :::
::: spoiler spoiler Trans, which yea definitely relieves a lot of it. idk maybe I am over thinking it. :::
You are, have fun!
Thank you, I'm sure we will. I still have some logistics to work out but it would be so good
::: spoiler sex If something feels good, bad, or uncomfortable then say so. Communication is so important. Consent can always be revoked without the need to explain and it happens more commonly than you might think, so don't feel pressure to keep going just because you've already had to stop a few times or because you don't feel like you have a good enough reason. It's normal to ask about sti risks like how long ago was her last test panel and how many partners she's been with since.
Have fun! :::
::: spoiler sex ykno three days from "we're girlfriends" to "intense cybering" was a bit faster than i expected things to move but i guess that can just happen when besties fall in love
::: spoiler spoiler
i did not know how badly i needed to hear a girl call me a good little slut
:::
Got 8 hours of sleep last night and like 10 the night before, why am I still tired and feel like shit though.
My little brother won't be coming over for summer. Nor will I be going to my parents house.
It's all fine. I can handle it. I can handle everything else so why not this?
::: spoiler addiction, recovery (good news!) Its been two weeks today since I've been high, which I think is pretty good. I'm cutting back big time, because I was addicted. Like, it was a good week if there was more than one day where I wasn't high.
I ran out of weed last time I smoked anyway, and the barrier of having to text my dealer, pay for weed and collect it is enough to stop me from getting more. I've weaponised my executive dysfunction.
Last time I got high, it was also the first time in two weeks, and I had a better time than I had for months. I just stopped enjoying weed and started expecting it. Having it be an occasional way to chill is so much better than having it be a lifestyle :::
::: spoiler spoiler
It's a powerful weapon. Use it wisely 0_o
:::
I did briefly misread that as "I've weaponized my erectile dysfunction", which like, how?
Wrote up a draft for my mega already. All about Brazilian tradition festa junina and our amazing and delicious traditional food
I dont have winter depression. I have summer rage. And summer hopelessness. And summer paranoia. And fuck summer. If it gets above 25°c its too hot. Fuck you sun fuck off and die I'd rather be cold in the dark than sweaty and cancerous from your indiscriminate and unyielding photonic blasts
I don't ever have to worry about either of my parents misgendering my gf but my dad runs through of list of her name sometimes because he forgets. Lydia, Vanessa, Amanda, Risa and so on, he got it right twice today at least
Feels weird that our life is fairly precarious on one hand, but also like the best its been ever, or at least in like, 10-15 years. We have v cool new friends and sisters, new hobbies, more passion for life than ever and were starting to not hate our body too. Awawawa
People think about the "what would you tell your past self" question all wrong. Nearly everyone (who's trying to make a shit load of money) says things like buy apple, buy bitcoin. No what you need to tell them is the SELL price. If you go back and tell your old self "bitcoin 120k" you know to buy it because you know what it will sell for in the future. It's implied and not that hard to figure out that if bitcoin is going to 120k you should fuckin buy some. But if you're told to buy bitcoin in 2012 or whatever, you don't know when to sell. You could 10x your money and think you've made out like a bandit. You have to know where the top is.
This post inspired by the fact I'm going back to 2012, I'm done being an adult you all can figure it out. I'm going to be playing my dsi and pretending to be a dog not having adult conversations.
Cute dream with my partner, dreamt I picked her up over my head and spun. Sex is fine and good but this was so whimsical
I realized today that I actually do still enjoy teaching. My current job is just completely opposite to anything I find enjoyable about it. So I guess it's nice that I'm not completely ruined of this stuff
My doctor has predictably told me to cut back on my E dosage since my labs came back with it at 528pg/mL. I remember seeing some research somewhere that the 100-200pg/mL WPATH range was extremely conservative and that 300-400pg/mL is closer to ideal. Anyone know of this (I didn't save it).
Wpath is very conservative yes, they used post menopausal women to find a minimum amount for us. I think the absolute minimum to shut us up and see changes is likely too low.
That said I haven't seen studies suggesting 300-400, wouldn't surprise me.
I've seen some doctors say shgb is more important then E levels but I'd need to do more reading into it to give any kind of recommendation.
For pre OP monotherapy, dosages upwards of 200ug/ml are necessary to sufficiently suppress androgens. These dosages can be reached with injections without any problems, and side effects will be negligible, especially compared to anything that you get from spiro or cypro. I think with that in mind, even when we set aside where the ideal range for feminizing effects is, it is medically not justifiable to have a combined estradiol and anti androgen regimen instead of "high dose" monotherapy as the first line of treatment.
Edit: For clarification, the side effects from reasonable amounts of anti androgens would ofc still be insignificant compared to the risks of untreated gender incongruence, i'm just saying there's no need for the stuff when just giving people more E also does the trick with fewer side effects.
That's a really good point, even then I've heard of some women who need that 3-400 just to surpress T.
yeah, bodies are different from person to person, but 3-400 is still no big deal if it's needed
My last dose was ~600pg/ml. Lots of the guidelines are very conservative. Even 200-400 probably is. I've seen 750 floated as a better high end.
::: spoiler lewd Sleep paralysis demon won't visit you no more if you enjoy it too much 😩 my freak level is three freaky :::
Gender care for me is shaving and using plenty of baby oil on my face and neck, makes me feel better and younger. I guess downing a lot of water too skin stuff is nice and if I don't make efforts towards it I get so much dead skin all over myself and it makes me feel awful.
Its just a shame how they get all that baby oil together 😔 all those babies just wrung out like a squeegee then stuck in water to rehydrate
Does this hurt the baby
We assume babies don't feel pain. Easier that way
Babies need jobs too you know
The only thing stopping me from trying to order prog even though the kind ladies of hexbear already tried to help me is that if my feminisation speeds up more I'll really really have no way of hiding from my parents. I can't deal with that shit on top of everything I'm already dealing with.
I don't know what to do. I should not alter my transition timelines for other people. I don't feel safe but I'm probably safe (I doubt my parents will kill me). But it still leaves the problem of taking more psychic damage. I got enough of that already.
Just rotating through the grab bag of activities people have already said: hair, nails, skincare, trying to get better at makeup. I have a routine where I’ll try some shit before taking a bath, shaving, and moisturizing. It’s a really all-in-one girl vibe
More expensive but one I’ve fallen in love with recently is tattoos. Lesbians love tattoos and it’s delightfully affirming to get cute gay art on my skin
It's basic, but doing makeup and shaving my legs both make me feel more comfortable with my gender.
Also laser!
You, reading this, who wants laser hair removal but hasn't started yet. You will schedule your first appointment
I can't because of my hair color
Here's hoping for electro. But yes in the mean time, shaving and moisturizing do a lot of good!
Facial hair does get more tolerable if you consistently get a nice clean shave.
Once I have income or insurance that will cover it I will. Actually depending on how long the wait list is to get in with a good place I might just schedule it now.
I don't think the wait lists are that long, but your mileage may vary.
I still gotta drive :/ then I will!
We will the moment we get a source of income again at the latest!
How many excuses am I allowed to make first?
There are basically three good excuses for people with dark hair: can't afford it, don't live within day trip distance of a laser place, and going to move in the next year.
I fall into the "can afford it but will make that excuse anyway"
Two new lobe piercings above my main one: one pink and one blue opal
fucking love shaving my legs and arms
i am generally pretty tomboy/butch coded but i have gotten back into shaving my whole body lately. feels amazing. also hair care is very important to me though i still feel like it's an area i can make a bunch of progress in. got a dykey wolfy bob cut lately after having long hair for ages and I've been experimenting with some new curl products (i have a light wave like 2-3c). also got my brows done for the first time in a while, i am good at doing them myself but it's a nice treat. next on my list is booking electrolysis cause I've plateaued a while back with laser progress. daunted by going no shave for 3-5 days beforehand though. love my trans comrades!
If this cycling between crying and dissociating could stop that'd be great
If you hadn't posted by tonight I was going to make an Antipope megathread.
Working outside is soooo pretty, the sky, the water, the trees. Idk everything looks so beautiful and detailed and rich.
I know the 80/20 "rule" is complete bullshit but I really hate doing the last 20% of the work. I'm close but everything left just kinda sucks. Almost like I just did the easy stuff while I could. Its just a bunch of BS left.
Okay maybe its like 40% left.
fairly sure i've been a bit manic for the past few weeks so my impulse control is lacking and i've spent way more than i can afford
BUT.... i have a new haircut and colour (i've been cutting it myself for 8+ years because poor - this is my first professional fem cut), new glasses (i stopped wearing my old ones years ago because they were manly), a new piercing (i daren't do this one myself), i started round 2 of laser (tria isn't doing anything any more), and i've bought some new (to me) clothes (still don't have a complete fem wardrobe though)
oh and i modified my workout earlier this year to focus more on butt/thighs and it's working
i'm feeling more comfortable with myself than i have in a long time (even made a new friend!), but i feel awful about spending so much money. but idk, it's gender self-care i think?
Cutting your own hair is so impressive :o
I really wanna get some more color in mine. I have an idea for a concept I wanna try but if I get it done professionally it's gonna be expensive (two colors in a pattern)
thank you! i wouldn't recommend cutting your own if you have straight hair, but waves and curls are good at hiding mistakes
maybe you could ask a colourist for a consultation so you at least have an idea of cost. or if you don't need peroxide, maybe you could try painting on some temporary colours (get a dye brush and bowl, sectioning clips, and arrange two mirrors so you can see behind your head). anti-dandruff shampoo will help to get the colour out faster if you don't like it
::: spoiler venting about hating emotions, lobotomy Date idea, you take one of these:
and put it through my eye socket and cut the bit of my brain that makes me feel emotions. Then you can steal my wallet or whatever. :::
I am rehoming my very favorite snake tonight. I will still have one left who I plan on keeping. All the others are gone now. I am very sad but I hope he is better able to take care of her. She's picker. I'm just calling it now. I should have before. But hopefully she can be okay. I'm just very sad. I'll still have the one pet and that's enough. Just hard.
That's a sad thing, having to part with a pet. Hopefully she gets used to her new home soon.
Thank you peanutbutter. He just took her. She is so great, I can't believe I haven't been able to give her what she needs.
I'm so sad. At least I have ice cream.
I've had two coworkers comment on my music at work:
😭 What is this. Also tbf I do listen to stuff that's a lot, a lot softer then what I listen to at home. I just thought the contrast was funny.
Changing rooms have music?
Apparently, I avoid that shit like the plague.
Working from 1000 (yesterday) to 0325 (today) isn't the sad part. The really sad part is that I still failed. It's always like this. Sigh.
Sounds like years of me in grad school.
Tragic! Did they give you any hugs or kisses on the forehead to make up for it?
Most trans women do not require, or even necessarily benefit from, supraphysiological (higher than cis women) levels of estradiol!
There are a few considerations for target hormone ranges.
Bone density - It is good for your bones to average at least 100 pg/mL of estradiol.
Testosterone suppression - most preop trans women can suppress gonadal testosterone production with a sufficient dose of estradiol, no antiandrogen required. However! Most of us don't need very much estradiol to do this. It usually happens in the 100-200 pg/mL range. (For reference, the "standard dose" of 4mg EEn/week is actually a bit more than most of us require for monotherapy)
Feminization - this is a big question mark. We do not know exactly how much estradiol is required for the various aspects of feminization. Consider this though - cis women obviously feminize just fine at the hormone levels which are normal for them.
Potential downsides - supraphysiological estrogen levels can increase your risk of developing blood clots, and in the long term, can also increase the risk of breast cancer. There are also some people who suspect that very high esteogen levels can harm feminization (I don't know if this idea has real merit). I don't say any of this to scare you, just to point out there is some potential downside.
Given the above, I think it is very reasonable for trans women et al to use the target range of 100-200 pg/mL of estradiol.
And get your damn blood tested before you start messing around with weird HRT regimens!
@SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net @BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net @SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net
I get my bloodwork done regularly (meaning every 6 months, which is honestly overdoing it after more than 3 years on E, but i get that done for free, so w/e). Also, 100-200ug/ml did not reliably allow me monotherapy pre surgery, i needed to go slightly above 200 in the through for that. This is the usual recommendation for monotherapy as well, and for some people levels like this would still not be sufficient towards that end. Different people have endocrine systems and recepteromes working in different ways.
Also, and most importantly, you are massively overstating the risk of blood clots, the widespread fear of this is outdated info based on non-estradiol contraceptives administered orally and this misconception is causing widespread harm in the treatment of trans women. Also, idk where the "weird HRT regimen" is coming from when i'm taking the standard dose you are citing yourself, or what a "weird HRT regimen" would even be when we're talking estradiol enanthate from a reliable vendor.
Edit: Also "supraphysiological" means lower than average cisfem ranges. What you mean is superphysiological.
Supraphysiological and superphysiological both mean the same thing - more than would normally be found in the body.
How the fuck is this actually true. It is correct for some reason, but it does not make sense that two opposite terms mean the same thing.
They're not opposite terms, they come from the same thing. Super and supra both mean above/superior to.
The opposite prefix would be sub-
If you actually need levels that high to suppress testosterone then that's all well and good, but some people deliberately aim for high estradiol levels even if it's two or three times what they actually need for suppressing T. That's what I meant by weird regimen, which I admit was probably an unnecessarily provocative way term.
Once more, these are not high levels for effective androgen supression, they are average. It is extremely rare that somebody who is pre surgery can do effective monotherapy in the dose range recommend by WPATH. I do not know anybody that works for personally. Lowering antiandrogen dosage, sure. Most trans women do not need 10mg cyproterone when they have been in the 100-200ug range for a while. But i've tried going off cypro in that range, it just didn't work, not for me and not for anybody i'm in community with. However, above 200ug/ml, it works perfectly for almost anybody i know, but some people actually do need to go above 300.
Not that it concerns me, given that i do not have testicles anymore. I still find that lowering my dose just does not feel comfortable on an emotional level. My mood is just better when i'm on higher amounts. Which absolutely is a valid concern with HRT. Just as it absolutely is valid to experiment and find out for yourself what regimen works instead of relying on mfing endocrinologists, you can't trust these people.
I'm usually near the top of the WPATH recommended range, and my testosterone levels are under control. In this study about a quarter of participants were within the 100-200 pg/mL range, and more than 80% of that group had suppressed T, whether or not they used an antiandrogen. It's really not rare for that amount of estradiol to be effective by itself.
Once more, these wre not my results and if i would want people to dismiss what i have to say about my lived experience i could just talk to a cis person instead. I'm glad to hear that what the doctor orders is working out for you, but i do not care and i do not want you to barge in here and tell people how they have to dose when they are the tiniest amount over your holy WPATH guidelines. That gatekeepy shit doesn't fly with me. Cut it out.
I politely disagree (but not with the getting it tested, that's important). More there's simply not been enough study on transition, because of structural transphobia.
Cis women for a lot of their life whiplash from extremes of estrogen with their ovulation and menstruation, sometimes going from as low as 100pg/ml to over 1000pg/ml in days. It's wild. As an aside in pregnancy they can hit like 6-7000. It's crazy cool.
I really disagree that a trans woman having a level of maybe ~700 is Superphysiological.
Recent studies (with admittedly low numbers) have shown high estrogen with progesterone gives the best breast growth. Low and slow is an old wives tale.
DVT risks are overblown from older synthetic estrogens and premarin which are different from bioidentical estrogen.
There was a baffling study too about breast cancer that noticed trans women had a much lower breast cancer risk than cis women even when confounding factors like time on estrogen were matched. Which really needs to be focused on because it might help cis breast cancer risk too.
All in all there simply needs to be way more studies and data. But my vibe is that historically the management of trans women has been deprivation not oversupply of necessary hormones
And I'm literally putting my money where my mouth is, in two hours I'm going to have a 200mg estrogen implants put in my butt by my doctor. I'm going to be glowing pink and levitating.
I want to major in hormone studies. This is the future the left wants
I think this would be an admirable thing to dedicate yourself to.
I don't have studies but I have seen reports that cycles do help feminization. Pregnancy obviously does.
Would love to see the studies/levels if you could.
This was the high estrogen study
Thank you. Wish the full study wasn't locked but I appreciate it
Yeah I'm waiting for the full text to drop.
Isn't the Dutch idea of "high estrogen" basically the same as the WPATH range of 100-200 pg/mL e2? I thought the Dutch standard was 55-110 pg/mL, and that's definitely too low for most people.
I think there's got to be thresholds of feminization that are only hit by certain hormonal levels. There are plenty of cis women who completed puberty to permanently go up bra sizes after pregnancy/breast feeding
Yup- not going to pregnancy dose myself for a while yet but I will one day. There's more going on then just E but I've heard of people doing it.
Also hip growth.
I don't think it would be a problem to have levels like this for one or two days a month, but I would consider it abnormal to be averaging numbers like that.
I do agree with you that there should be a lot more study in this area.
For sure, but there is still some risk from plain estradiol if it's much higher than normal.
"Supraphysiological" for whom? What phase of the menstrual cycle? What percentile of E levels are you in (non-trans women don't get these checked routinely and somehow manage not to constantly throw clots)? During pregnancy E levels increase from baseline to sometimes >30,000 pg/ml E in the third trimester.
These are all "physiological" levels. Blood clots aren't a concern unless you smoke and are hypercoagulable. You can push your levels to whatever level you're comfortable with and be fine. Non-trans women have higher levels than WPATH recommends all the time for all kinds of reasons. I kept my E levels in first trimester range for a while for reasons that aren't really relevant here and it's fine.
Supraphysiological compared to an average of the entire menstrual cycle of premenopausal cis women.
While their estradiol levels are usually quite high for a day or two out of each cycle around ovulation, their levels are much lower for the rest of the month. If your levels are that high all the time, that's abnormally high.
Pregnancy does involve very high levels of estradiol, but only for nine months or or so at a time, not for an indefinite number of years. Even so, pregnancy involves some health risks and it's not a state you'd want to recreate constantly.
I'm not saying that no one should ever use higher levels of hormones, just that it involves some additional risk and shouldn't be done without a specific goal in mind.
What are your gays thoughts on me upping my E from 4mg een weekly to 6mg? https://estrannai.se/#imt0__cu,4,7,2-cu,6,7,2
Someone has been suggesting this to me, that raising E levels would more closely mimic cis puberty. Which I don't hate as an approach, I'm just not sure if I need to I guess. The biggest drawback I see is using my vials faster. idk, anyone have thoughts?
8 months hrt no labs.
You should get labs first, then labs after 6 weeks on the new dose to see the difference, if you choose to go down that route. And yeah, you'll go through vials much faster. FWIW, I've been taking 7mg EEn and got my labs done for the first time in forever and my E was at 528pg/mL at trough. Definitely going to dial it back to 5mg going forward. I'm way past hitting my numbers and would rather have my vials last longer.
Probably a waste of estrogen without a lab to indicate otherwise.
I definitely agree that doing blood tests is a good idea. But also Estrogen's never wasted if you're putting it in your body IMO
You should get labs to verify your current levels. There is a lot of variation in pharmacogenomics, everyones liver is different (I remember one study showing 70% variation between siblings in pharmakinetics of some drug).
The idea of higher E levels to mimic puberty is interesting, I will say when I upped my doses and started having the intense emotional side of puberty - I backed off lol. I get that you wanna make it go faster but Im skeptical its much any faster than current dose plus time. I would be curious what the diy femme hrt people think of it, theres not tons of studies but they do some research.
400 sounds fine for what its worth as well if thats your personal target.
You guys keep giving me ideas of stuff to try to study. I need to become a pharmacist and researcher so much. Hopefully this year I'll start it, hopefully in a public university.
I know, I am hoping to be able to get blood work soonish. Do injectibles go through your liver? I thought that was one advantage over E pills.
I mean I do, but someone had suggested it multiple times to me so I thought it was something I should investigate/ask others opinions on.
Okay cool, glad you think that range is okay though, I trust your view on that
First pass oral means it goes through your liver, is highly metabolized by it, then goes systemic. Parenteral routes like injections skip the first pass, but eventually your body is gonna start cleaning stuff out cause thats what it does. Short of a clone organ or whatever that produces estrogen/progesterone on its own, youll always be clearing out whatever you put in instead of homeostasis.
For those who take prog rectally, do you take 100mg or 200mg daily? I'm considering asking for more since I'm at 100mg now, but I know that the rectal route has much higher bio-availability so idk if it's even necessary.
Should I buy a plush shark? I think it's too hard to get a blahaj here, but I can buy a shark plushie
Yes.
My shark:
Cute! I'll look for a cute shark plushie
this will be you soon
::: spoiler dysphoria I really can't understand my gender other than 'trans' and its honestly just horrible. I don't relate to cis people but neither trans women or Non-binary people. Its feels awful because I may want to go to trans events, possibly connect with others, but I just can't. I end up feeling like I stick out around other trans people (Plus the other queer cis people that are at other events I've been to). I feel like I'm in a completely different world to them, they know what they want out of transitioning but I don't, or at least can formulate something of their gender.
I've been staring at my gender for years now and while HRT has helped a lot, I can't visualise what my gender is in my head, it ends up being an empty void with not even my current self in there. Sometimes reading theory helps but it brings more questions without giving answers and only helps understand the world around me, but not understand me. :::
In other things, does anyone have advice in getting a haircut/style? I do need one but the idea of shortening my hair is uncomfortable and put me off a lot. My hair is literally my old boy haircut that I stopped getting cut about 6 years ago now, its been cut once since for split ends but that's it. I probably need to get it cut for split ends again but possibly for styling as well? I like the idea of some areas being shaved down, not to skin but somewhat close, though not sure if on the sides or the back or both.
it's fine to just not have a gender and it's fine to flip-flop on that at any point for any reason. gender is just kind of weird, and i think that the more you think about it, the more arbitrary and nonsensical it seems. if you think you're some kind of outlier around other trans people, you probably just need to meet more trans people.
for your hair, the hairdresser can cut it into layers (i.e. change the shape of it so that it sits better) without taking from the length. and it sounds like you probably want an undercut, which is the correct and proper choice. maybe have a scroll on pinterest for inspo? https://uk.pinterest.com/ideas/curly-undercut-women/903783996609/
I don't feel like an outlier, whenever I've been with trans people everything has felt fine, but afterwards when its over then I end up not feeling anything. I haven't been able to be social for a while which doesn't help. I'm not trying to feel different, I do like connecting and just existing as a trans person with others but I can't ignore the feelings that something is up with me that may or may not separate me from everyone else.
But yeah, gender does get pretty nonsensical thinking about it more and more. Plus seeing how different cultures interpret gender makes the concept as a whole feel confusing? How gender is defined across the world and in some places its honestly beautiful yet others its so arbitrary that I'm wondering why does it have to exist like that at all there.
An undercut sounds perfect. Thank you. My hair length is around shoulder blade length atm so it would be nice to grow it out longer while adjusting the length of the hair around my head so its not just generic long hair.
The cookies turned out pretty good I think! I gave some to my good friend and she said she liked them. Though she did only eat half of one...
Oooh I love cookies
Sweets in general tbh...
Sometimes I remember there is a 1997 Home Alone 3 with a different kid, who by himself, sick with
measleschicken pox defeats a team of 4 European terrorists backed by the DPRK lead by a guy who is almost certainly ex-Stasi (or other equivalent).In terms of gender self-care? I used to dye my hair to help feel comfortable with my gender. Having nice hair always felt good and euphoric.
Also making accessories and modifying clothes. I have a pair of trousers that I would paint kinda in a tattoo style. Would be nice to add more and wear it out much more often. Just need to make it fit me again.
Finished Manhunt! Finale was p over the top (which were not sure if thats a criticism cuz we did rly enjoy it) but
bweh it made us cry anyway
3/3 for total bangers for trans horror weve read so far
(Exquisite Corpse, Brainwyrms, Manhunt)
I liked Moonflow if you want another, apparently my book taste is trans horror lol. Theres also Tell Me Im Worthless
Manhunt still makes me cry when I think about it
We always want more hehe, these sound rly good!
Sure, theres Hell Followed With Us and Compound Fracture too. But thats the end of my personal list lol. Its such a weird niche.
Ty anyway!
Seems to be a fairly fast growing niche at least, looking up trans horror weve been seeing lots of books from the last few years specifically (which is nice :3)
Cuckoo is probably my favourite Gretchen Falker Martin book
man being sick (NOT related to my gastro stuff) blows. I missed the few minutes of my therapy session and my brain was so muddled that it was hard to talk about important stuff.
My mayor is Muslim
My bagel Jewish
The Pope on my side
Knicks in Five!
(I live 1000+ miles away from NYC and have never visited)
One of the obvious eggs I watched stream a few times like last year apparently cracked at some point. Still have another who I've been waiting years for tho.
Sometimes you just can't help but set the egg timer.
::: spoiler dating What's t4t like in your 30s? I'm in the back half of my 20s and I don't click with trans people in their early 20s. Is there less poly people in that age range? :::
Highly dependent on your local scene. In my area the young t4t scene is incredibly poly and gets less so as you go up in age
I just stick to people close to my age and we click ok
I hope everyone had a wonderful first week of pride
You would think that someone who's 22 years wouldn't be larping as a sailor trynna go all "I can smell when it's going to rain" but no, these people exist.
When it starts raining without them predicting it they start saying shit like "it's not supposed to rain right now, the clouds aren't right", as if mother nature has made a mistake and should correct herself
Arranging Hookups To Host For Motivation To Clean Your Depression Nest: A Self Care Guide for Depressed Sluts by u/EstraDoll: Now in bookstores near you
at the moment my gender care is mostly making art of my fursona. just finished cross stitching a pixel sprite of it and am so happy just looking at it ^_^
is your fursona in your profile picture? if so it's very cute!
Tomorrow the strategy is just to do my best be ready for set backs and breathe, I've got some good luck/vibes if I need to dip into them I will as I do my best to navigate the American healthcare system
hope everything goes well!!
ty I got a game plan and if it fails I'll do some planning
got myself a ninja creami, as a treat, and it's actually really good at making protein drinks into ice cream. Like shockingly excellent. now i just gotta start baking muffins cause i have like three bags of unflavoured protein powder that i definitely won't be drinking anymore.
::: spoiler cw: doctors, depression, mentions of suicidal ideation also had a visit at a GP to get my referral for the psychiatric side of the public health care. trying to make myself less depressed and suicidal so i can get the bottom surgery, i guess. :::
Fed up with both my jobs. Hate both. Trying to lock in for the last like month or two so I can save more but fuck.
Also when I move I'm probably going to be making like 35k, no idea how to do dick with that. Is that even enough to be independent? I feel like damn near everyone is living with a partner, two incomes, still barely making it.
Also thinking about structural transphobia at work, fml. Why the fuck did u have to be born into this. In such a bad place rn.
Speaking of the move we've got multiple people interested in the house, doing showings next week.
No I'm not crying watching the Northernlion Road to Empress 2 playthrough
It's not happening
MY MAYOR IS MUSLIM
MY BAGEL IS JEWISH
THE POPES ON MY SIDE
KNICKS WON IN 5
My friends and I watched Twilight and tbh it was pretty fun. Guess we're watching them all now
grok, update my pronouns
Kill object oriented programming
::: spoiler mental health, depression, SI The heat and humidity have been really getting to me. The AC in our apartment is pretty useless, and since we're moving out soon the landlord has no issues in making any improvements until we move out. I can tolerate it in the morning, but once it gets to the afternoon I have been suffering depressive symptoms, unable to enjoy much and experiencing intrusive SI. I need to figure out a way to get out of the apartment and find somewhere with decent AC that we can hang out in, but I feel really self-conscious and potentially dysphoric if I linger in a place without dressing up and applying makeup, which I can't really justify with the heat. I'll figure something out. Just can't wait for the move. :::
On a happier note, my partner and I have been watching Columbo after listening to the Be Gay Solve Crimes episode on the show during a recent car trip. We are enjoying it immensely.
God I just hate work lately. Fuck this place.
The feeling of having to shave my fucking legs again
Disgusting
Because of the economic situation your 20's are now between the ages of 25-35
Up with trans!
::: spoiler negativity, dysphoria, transphobia I hate being trans. I hate this experience. I hate society. I hate all the things I have to do. I hate the healthcare I need to hopefully feel normal in my body. I HATE SOCIETY. ALL OF THEM FUCKERS. I hate everything being wrong. I hate all the things being trans robbed me of. I hate the depression it gave me. I hate this being it. I hate cis people. I hate how they view us. I hate how even simple things get distorted and trampled on.
I feel very deflated. I could give up and die right now.
Why did I even feel so good lately. I didn't understand it at the time and I still don't. :::
I have everything I need to fix this laptop but the will to do it
I got sun burnt as hell yesterday, but at least I have a little bikini burn line and it feels very gender
For a brief moment today I felt like I was actually useful. It turns out I had made a mistake. But not before letting everybody know about my great result (which was incorrectly generated).
Now I face the choice of telling the truth and facing consequences, or trying to fix the mistake and actually get good results before anyone notices.
If I can't, I'll tell them. But it's just ... I'd have liked to have at least one W.
I don't got enough stories about grass touching I can tell. Even though go outside and literally touch grass for hours everyday! It doesn't count because it is not a social or productive activity. It is just a distraction and cheap/easy endorphins.
Gonna try to bake again tonight—Chewy Earl Grey Sugar Cookies
NYT Cooking staff will be spared in the coming revolution if they turn out well
::: spoiler si This is the worst I have felt in like a month. My passive si is back. Fuck me. :::
::: spoiler Ok so. My brain. It hates me. (Cw halfvent about anxiety)
There is no reason for me to be disliked by some people I recently met at work. But. I am certain that I am despised. Why? No fucking clue. Its not rational. I can see that its not rational. But knowing that doesn't make things somehow better... I can see the things I'm doing wrong and I feel powerless to change them. How do you modify your emotional reactions? How do you stop assuming people hate you? I can see that I'm incorrect, explicitly incorrect. But I cant figure out how to get that sight internalized into my emotional reality. I end up certain that I am alienating others, certain that I am behaving strangely and that they dislike me. The fantasies of getting hurt by others keep growing. I can see that its all incorrect, but I dont know how to stop it from happening, the thoughts are automatic and they dont make sense. I dont even recognize what's happening most of the time. I would like my brain to be kinder to me please. And every attempt to address it by anyone external results in fear and withdrawal, which only makes those thoughts all the stronger.
:::
I was thinking of making one of my plushies my therapist but at this point they're all like my kids and I'd need a new possibly older plushies to do that. I'll figure something out maybe I'll make something or repurpose something to talk to.
I interacted with 3 strangers yesterday and was gendered correctly by each of them! I wasn't even dressed femme, just a t-shirt and jeans. I was feeling like utter shit yesterday mentally and that stopped me from sharing, but I didn't want this positivity to just die in my sea of depression. I also really hope the injection I did a little while ago helps with that.
Ok so I need to calm tf down and analyse rationally. I overestimated myself. I should have just stuck to learning physics shit (aka my actual subject) and never gotten involved with master's level machine learning.
It's not my field, expertise or passion. I can't be the master of everything (pun intended)!
Mina the Hollower is so good. I’m obsessed. I haven’t played a game this engrossing in a long time.