To understand why profit is so important, we must first define it.
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To illustrate, let us consider the simplest economic system possible: that of a lone individual.
Libs continuing to pretend that humans aren't social creatures
He burns calories tilling the soil, chasing animals and so on (cost), and gains calories when he eats (revenue). He must receive more calories from the food he eats than he burns in the process of hunting or farming, otherwise he will die. He needs some calorie surplus (profit) in order to survive.
"Profit is necessary to life (if I use a weird idiosyncratic definition of profit that has nothing to do with the one used by Marxists)"
Attempts to eliminate profit killed millions of people. Even today countries under similar regimes, such as North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba face extreme food shortages.
"Pay no attention to the US sanctions and embargos behind the curtain"
But profit that comes at the expense of other people is bad.
And capitalist profits by definition come at the expense of the worker whose surplus value they appropriate. Thank you and good night.
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 20hr
Profit is when you eat more calories than you spent walking to the supermarket
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BobDole [none/use name] - 16hr
…walking? You mean from my F-350 in the handicap spot up front (no placard or plate)?
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Beaver [he/him] - 19hr
But profit that comes at the expense of other people is bad.
Even Profit's strongest warrior must meekly conceed that exploitation is bad in principle.
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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them] - 19hr
I think it's interesting how right wing thought has devolved. This text is quite a setback compared to profit/surplus value is necessary for social and technological development and therefore capitalism is the best system.
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lil_tank [any, he/him] - 17hr
Strawman argument but there's no straw and there's no man
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booty [he/him] - 17hr
He needs some calorie surplus (profit) in order to survive.
Aside from all the other reasons this is bullshit, this part specifically just... isn't true at all? Sure I guess you need a calorie surplus when you're young and growing, or when you're building muscle. But if you're like a 25 year old hunter-farmer lone wolf alpha male who don't need no society... you don't need a calorie surplus. A consistent calorie surplus would be bad. Every surplus calorie just gets stored as fat on your body which will weigh you down eventually.
(Of course some amount of that is good for surviving periods of food shortage but there's a point at which it becomes detrimental)
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 14hr
you do need to ingest more calories than you spent hunting, you sustain your metabolism
But that have nothing to do with capitalism
it's bad enough we do need to labor to eat, but profit, in his stupid analogy, would be more like having worms in your stomach
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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them] - 20hr
He must receive more calories from the food he eats than he burns in the process of hunting or farming, otherwise he will die. He needs some calorie surplus (profit) in order to survive.
Do they have a lab somewhere to cook up takes this bad? How do you even manage to get your own basic-ass examples so astonishingly wrong? Is the point that everyone should be weight maxing? That's even before we go into any kind social theorizing.
I guess the best way to construct a wildly misguided ideology is to start from an incorrect premise.
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WrongOnTheInternet [none/use name] - 19hr
I'm a Keynesian, when there is a recession I just eat my own shit for the calories
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DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them] - 19hr
Joked about it before but they’re finally starting to imply it: they think profit is a human right.
Interesting how working people seem to manage without it, but these porks will swear up and down they would die with even less profits.
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RedSturgeon [she/her] - 20hr
It makes me cringe so much how this is the kind of stuff politicians and their family, studying in US schools, reads. And a lot of them unironically believe it.
They literally think money is sacred and those who have most money are the best.
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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them] - 19hr
Even today countries under similar regimes, such as North Korea, Venezuela and Cuba face extreme food shortages.
AES: please buy our reasonably priced oil, cigars and rum
Capitalist roaders: die already, we got an argument to win.
Western leftists: die already, state capitalists
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Nacarbac [comrade/them] - 20hr
Is it even sleight of hand when your analogy just goes "profit is when some guy lives, living is good, therefore economic profit is good"?
Ends up sounding like a lame version of the Calorie Companies from The Wind-up Girl. At least they recreated dinosaurs to wind clock springs.
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Monk3brain3 [any, he/him] - 20hr
lmao. this goes beyond ideology. Maybe something like ultlra death cult. Also complete failure to understand what profit is and stands in for. Usually its energy.
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mrfugu [he/him, any] - 17hr
To oppose gambling is to oppose life itself.
Imagine Bob, a hunter gatherer alone in the wilderness. Danger besets him on all sides but he cannot sit idly by while his stomach empties. Instead he must throw the spear built by his own labor (bet) in order to get a chance at getting food (prize).
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sgtlion [any] - 16hr
"Profit is like when you have extra berries!"
There's your immediate key misunderstanding.
In capitalism, profit has precisely nothing to do with what you make or harvest, and is entirely dependent on what you can take from others. Whether that's a net positive to society like growing and selling berries, or a net negative, like hoarding jobs to underpay and price gouge people.
Most of capitalism is the latter, simply because it's much more profitable.
You want to know what it's actually like when you have extra berries? Read Robin Wall Kimmerer's The Serviceberry.
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 16hr
Profit is like saying you own the treebush and will racket everybody off half of their harvest while you sit on your ass all day
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Des [she/her, they/them] - 15hr
let me guess without reading: similar to "private property is just stuff owned by a person" this article goes with the assumption that "profit" is simply "what's left after income minus costs".
those commies just want to run every corporation at a permanent loss and bankrupt us ALL!!!
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10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 13hr
profit is good because in nature you need to breathe more air than you blow out otherwise you die. Stalin killed 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 people
10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL in slop
if you don't let us steal your marginal value you're literally a deatheater
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Libs continuing to pretend that humans aren't social creatures
"Profit is necessary to life (if I use a weird idiosyncratic definition of profit that has nothing to do with the one used by Marxists)"
"Pay no attention to the US sanctions and embargos behind the curtain"
And capitalist profits by definition come at the expense of the worker whose surplus value they appropriate. Thank you and good night.
Profit is when you eat more calories than you spent walking to the supermarket
…walking? You mean from my F-350 in the handicap spot up front (no placard or plate)?
Even Profit's strongest warrior must meekly conceed that exploitation is bad in principle.
I think it's interesting how right wing thought has devolved. This text is quite a setback compared to profit/surplus value is necessary for social and technological development and therefore capitalism is the best system.
Strawman argument but there's no straw and there's no man
Aside from all the other reasons this is bullshit, this part specifically just... isn't true at all? Sure I guess you need a calorie surplus when you're young and growing, or when you're building muscle. But if you're like a 25 year old hunter-farmer lone wolf alpha male who don't need no society... you don't need a calorie surplus. A consistent calorie surplus would be bad. Every surplus calorie just gets stored as fat on your body which will weigh you down eventually.
(Of course some amount of that is good for surviving periods of food shortage but there's a point at which it becomes detrimental)
you do need to ingest more calories than you spent hunting, you sustain your metabolism
But that have nothing to do with capitalism
it's bad enough we do need to labor to eat, but profit, in his stupid analogy, would be more like having worms in your stomach
Do they have a lab somewhere to cook up takes this bad? How do you even manage to get your own basic-ass examples so astonishingly wrong? Is the point that everyone should be weight maxing? That's even before we go into any kind social theorizing.
I guess the best way to construct a wildly misguided ideology is to start from an incorrect premise.
I'm a Keynesian, when there is a recession I just eat my own shit for the calories
Joked about it before but they’re finally starting to imply it: they think profit is a human right.
Interesting how working people seem to manage without it, but these porks will swear up and down they would die with even less profits.
It makes me cringe so much how this is the kind of stuff politicians and their family, studying in US schools, reads. And a lot of them unironically believe it.
They literally think money is sacred and those who have most money are the best.
AES: please buy our reasonably priced oil, cigars and rum
Capitalist roaders: die already, we got an argument to win.
Western leftists: die already, state capitalists
Is it even sleight of hand when your analogy just goes "profit is when some guy lives, living is good, therefore economic profit is good"?
Ends up sounding like a lame version of the Calorie Companies from The Wind-up Girl. At least they recreated dinosaurs to wind clock springs.
lmao. this goes beyond ideology. Maybe something like ultlra death cult. Also complete failure to understand what profit is and stands in for. Usually its energy.
To oppose gambling is to oppose life itself.
Imagine Bob, a hunter gatherer alone in the wilderness. Danger besets him on all sides but he cannot sit idly by while his stomach empties. Instead he must throw the spear built by his own labor (bet) in order to get a chance at getting food (prize).
"Profit is like when you have extra berries!"
There's your immediate key misunderstanding.
In capitalism, profit has precisely nothing to do with what you make or harvest, and is entirely dependent on what you can take from others. Whether that's a net positive to society like growing and selling berries, or a net negative, like hoarding jobs to underpay and price gouge people.
Most of capitalism is the latter, simply because it's much more profitable.
You want to know what it's actually like when you have extra berries? Read Robin Wall Kimmerer's The Serviceberry.
Profit is like saying you own the treebush and will racket everybody off half of their harvest while you sit on your ass all day
let me guess without reading: similar to "private property is just stuff owned by a person" this article goes with the assumption that "profit" is simply "what's left after income minus costs".
those commies just want to run every corporation at a permanent loss and bankrupt us ALL!!!
profit is good because in nature you need to breathe more air than you blow out otherwise you die. Stalin killed 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 people
baby brained and incoherent
2/10 bait