Ya'll heard of comnunism? It's even deadlier than communism
Conservative political analysis seen floating around twitter.
Mohammad killed the entire population of the globe in his era (circa 600 CE). Now that's impressive
BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them] - 1day
Ever notice how these images always make Hitler's death count the lowest?
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mickey [he/him] - 1day
Yeah we got the wild undercount of deaths from fascism, the "Nazis were socialists actually" trope, making up numbers + blaming deaths under communism e.g. famine on the ideology; those are all pretty familiar. I haven't seen the wild ass 300,000,000 killed by Islam before, and the very cheeky bonus of getting to smuggle in a picture of the prophet.
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HuntressHimbo @lemmy.zip - 1day
I would bet a modest amount of money that they padded that number out with Muslims killed by the crusades. I feel like to get there you have to punch religious wars involving Islam into google, and then just add up all the casualties with no thought given to the instigator or even which side the casualty was killed by. Or honestly that's probably more work than was put into this, they probably just asked Grok how many people were killed by Islam and that's the number Elon had hard coded.
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mickey [he/him] - 6hr
When you suggested the tabulated from half-assed Google research I thought "that's way to much effort" but you covered that
they probably just asked Grok
Also don't ask them who sacked Constantinople.
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TankieTanuki [he/him] - 1day
Yes. It's intentional
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SoyViking [he/him] - 1day
Yup. Few people are going to fall for "Hitler never did anything wrong and the Nazis were good actually" but it is a lot more easy to convince people that the designated enemies of the white empire, who we have been groomed to hate and fear from an early age, were worse than the Nazis.
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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1day
thats the point
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Samsuma @lemmy.ml - 23hr
and how the "Islamist"s death count the highest lol.
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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them] - 20hr
It's a surprisingly complex layered piece propaganda for being complete slop.
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SchillMenaker [he/him] - 1day
Mohammad killed the entire population of the globe circa 600 CE
I don't mean to be an asshole but as an American this figure means absolutely nothing to me. I need you to explain it in terms of 9/11's.
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Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them] - 1day
Imagine a 9/11, but in every building everywhere, your house, your neighbour's house, the local 7/11, the local Denny's, the IHOP, everywhere.
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ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them] - 23hr
OK but how many football fields of burgers are we talking here?
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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 20hr
what about waffle house?
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unmagical @lemmy.ml - 1day
Now do Christianity and Capitalism!
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TankieTanuki [he/him] - 1day
no that's different they were all personal failings 😤
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Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name] - 1day
Are the Stalin death counts just all of the casualties (exaggerated) of the Russian civil war, but Stalin gets all of the blame and the antisemites get none of it? I never really understood how this works. All of the petty white Russian landlords, nobles, and bourgeoisie that had to be overthrown seem like they should be responsible.
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TankieTanuki [he/him] - 1day
Once upon a time, someone came up with a number and a (half-assed) justification, and since then every subsequent reteller has just added another million to it
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Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name] - 1day
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Stalin killed 60% of the Soviet Union. You would think there would've been a revolution against him.
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Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them] - 1day
Can't have a revolution if there's no population left to revolt.
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novibe @lemmy.ml - 9hr
Also the population wouldn’t be increasing by millions every few years if over 60% were systematically killed over a decade or so… almost like it’s an absolutely immaterial claim with no basis other than trying to prove a point
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Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name] - 6hr
It's like the Chinese genocide in Xinjiang. There's no bodies and the population grew, but it definitely happened.
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ourtimewillcome [any] - 1day
and the antisemites get none of it?
I have always found it strange that Westerners who criticize the White Army always seem to narrowly focus on the anti-Semitism of the reactionaries, completely ignoring or glossing over the atrocities committed against everyone else. Are the Slavic, Turkic, Roma, and Finno-Ugric peoples of the former Russian Empire considered less than human, or if not, why do they never seem to be included in Western estimates of the number of people killed, both by the Whites and by the Nazis?
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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 20hr
Are the Slavic, Turkic, Roma, and Finno-Ugric peoples of the former Russian Empire considered less than human,
they only know some of those groups, but yes.
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Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name] - 20hr
They're not too worried about the antisemitism either.
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Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them] - 1day
Often times they include all of the deaths of the eastern front of WW2 and will sometimes even go so far as to assume hypothetical children those people could have had and add them to the list as well.
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PolandIsAStateOfMind @lemmygrad.ml - 20hr
If we adopted similar methodology for capitalism we would arrive at billions, considering centuries of colonialism.
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Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them] - 20hr
Ah, but those colonised peoples just failed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, it's their own fault really.
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CrawlMarks [he/him] - 1day
The white army representing the moneyed classes are entitled to kill their lessers so their numbers don't count per standard liberal cosmology
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chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them] - 20hr
The already very unserious Black Book of Communism blames the Soviet Union for 20 million deaths. The Black Book was published in 1997, so the Soviet Union must have claimed another 42 millions deaths in the last 3 decades by no longer existing.
It feels like the purpose of this slop is to make the other anticommunists seem more credible by comparison.
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TankieTanuki [he/him] - 1day
I had a guy tell me that Mao killed between 50 and 70M from "relocations", in addition to 30M from the famine. I asked him "what relocations?" but never got an answer. I think he was getting his wires crossed with Stalin.
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SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them] - 22hr
Mao killed everyone in China, 4 times in a row! Maoist necromancy is as powerful as Juche Necromancy
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daniyeg [he/him] - 1day
as i have said before, 300+ million is a very conservative "estimate" for these people. don't get shocked if you see 1+ billion out in the wild.
also a reminder that israel strategy to counteract their negative PR for the genocide is to fuel islamophobia. do not let people get away from posting shit like this.
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Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them] - 1day
Shit like this is so bad it is poisoning AI search results which has an intersting time contradicting itself and trying to blame the deaths on that infamous Soviet Oppression during WW2
No...but yes here's the source National WW2 museum stating 24 Million Soviet deaths
(which would make 20 Million an underestimate) and then falsely misrepresents it's own source still by saying 8.4 million military and 11 million Civillian (which would put it closer to 30 million). Even NATOpedia says about 27 Million though 20 Million was the official number the Soviets ran with. .... but but but COMMUNIST OPPRESSION!
I think whoever programed this is hard coded to bullshit the user about WW2...er 'sensitive topics'. Grok you have some competition.
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TankieTanuki [he/him] - 1day
20 million exceeds [...] 24 million
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LadyCajAsca [she/her, comrade/them] - 23hr
Brave AI doing that is.. unsurprising considering what company runs it
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SomeRandomNoob @discuss.tchncs.de - 1day
Describing Fachism as Socialism is a HARD nogo!
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BelieveRevolt [he/him] - 21hr
It's because of the Sino-Soviet split, Stalin personally ordered everyone to start spelling it comnunism to differentiate the USSR from China.
Source:
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JustSo [she/her, any] - 9hr
Its pronounced "cum-none-ism" and is the ideological underpinning of the volcel vanguard. Put some respect on it.
TankieTanuki in slop
Ya'll heard of comnunism? It's even deadlier than communism
Conservative political analysis seen floating around twitter.
Mohammad killed the entire population of the globe in his era (circa 600 CE). Now that's impressive
Ever notice how these images always make Hitler's death count the lowest?
Yeah we got the wild undercount of deaths from fascism, the "Nazis were socialists actually" trope, making up numbers + blaming deaths under communism e.g. famine on the ideology; those are all pretty familiar. I haven't seen the wild ass 300,000,000 killed by Islam before, and the very cheeky bonus of getting to smuggle in a picture of the prophet.
I would bet a modest amount of money that they padded that number out with Muslims killed by the crusades. I feel like to get there you have to punch religious wars involving Islam into google, and then just add up all the casualties with no thought given to the instigator or even which side the casualty was killed by. Or honestly that's probably more work than was put into this, they probably just asked Grok how many people were killed by Islam and that's the number Elon had hard coded.
When you suggested the tabulated from half-assed Google research I thought "that's way to much effort" but you covered that
Also don't ask them who sacked Constantinople.
Yes. It's intentional
Yup. Few people are going to fall for "Hitler never did anything wrong and the Nazis were good actually" but it is a lot more easy to convince people that the designated enemies of the white empire, who we have been groomed to hate and fear from an early age, were worse than the Nazis.
thats the point
and how the "Islamist"s death count the highest lol.
It's a surprisingly complex layered piece propaganda for being complete slop.
I don't mean to be an asshole but as an American this figure means absolutely nothing to me. I need you to explain it in terms of 9/11's.
Imagine a 9/11, but in every building everywhere, your house, your neighbour's house, the local 7/11, the local Denny's, the IHOP, everywhere.
OK but how many football fields of burgers are we talking here?
what about waffle house?
Now do Christianity and Capitalism!
no that's different they were all personal failings 😤
Are the Stalin death counts just all of the casualties (exaggerated) of the Russian civil war, but Stalin gets all of the blame and the antisemites get none of it? I never really understood how this works. All of the petty white Russian landlords, nobles, and bourgeoisie that had to be overthrown seem like they should be responsible.
Once upon a time, someone came up with a number and a (half-assed) justification, and since then every subsequent reteller has just added another million to it
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like Stalin killed 60% of the Soviet Union. You would think there would've been a revolution against him.
Also the population wouldn’t be increasing by millions every few years if over 60% were systematically killed over a decade or so… almost like it’s an absolutely immaterial claim with no basis other than trying to prove a point
It's like the Chinese genocide in Xinjiang. There's no bodies and the population grew, but it definitely happened.
I have always found it strange that Westerners who criticize the White Army always seem to narrowly focus on the anti-Semitism of the reactionaries, completely ignoring or glossing over the atrocities committed against everyone else. Are the Slavic, Turkic, Roma, and Finno-Ugric peoples of the former Russian Empire considered less than human, or if not, why do they never seem to be included in Western estimates of the number of people killed, both by the Whites and by the Nazis?
they only know some of those groups, but yes.
They're not too worried about the antisemitism either.
Often times they include all of the deaths of the eastern front of WW2 and will sometimes even go so far as to assume hypothetical children those people could have had and add them to the list as well.
If we adopted similar methodology for capitalism we would arrive at billions, considering centuries of colonialism.
Ah, but those colonised peoples just failed to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, it's their own fault really.
The white army representing the moneyed classes are entitled to kill their lessers so their numbers don't count per standard liberal cosmology
The already very unserious Black Book of Communism blames the Soviet Union for 20 million deaths. The Black Book was published in 1997, so the Soviet Union must have claimed another 42 millions deaths in the last 3 decades by no longer existing.
It feels like the purpose of this slop is to make the other anticommunists seem more credible by comparison.
I had a guy tell me that Mao killed between 50 and 70M from "relocations", in addition to 30M from the famine. I asked him "what relocations?" but never got an answer. I think he was getting his wires crossed with Stalin.
Mao killed everyone in China, 4 times in a row! Maoist necromancy is as powerful as Juche Necromancy
as i have said before, 300+ million is a very conservative "estimate" for these people. don't get shocked if you see 1+ billion out in the wild.
also a reminder that israel strategy to counteract their negative PR for the genocide is to fuel islamophobia. do not let people get away from posting shit like this.
Shit like this is so bad it is poisoning AI search results which has an intersting time contradicting itself and trying to blame the deaths on that infamous Soviet Oppression during WW2
No...but yes here's the source National WW2 museum stating 24 Million Soviet deaths (which would make 20 Million an underestimate) and then falsely misrepresents it's own source still by saying 8.4 million military and 11 million Civillian (which would put it closer to 30 million). Even NATOpedia says about 27 Million though 20 Million was the official number the Soviets ran with. .... but but but
COMMUNIST OPPRESSION!
I think whoever programed this is hard coded to bullshit the user about WW2...er 'sensitive topics'. Grok you have some competition.
Brave AI doing that is.. unsurprising considering what company runs it
Describing Fachism as Socialism is a HARD nogo!
It's because of the Sino-Soviet split, Stalin personally ordered everyone to start spelling it comnunism to differentiate the USSR from China.
Source:
Its pronounced "cum-none-ism" and is the ideological underpinning of the volcel vanguard. Put some respect on it.
Commnunism is just the Poor Clairs