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Former Chief of Staff of the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force says the US forced them to attack Pearl Harbor

https://xcancel.com/toshio_tamogami/status/1998484937541038387

hitler-detector

Belly_Beanis [he/him] - 2day

the United States had been tormenting Japan.

Yeah by placing an oil embargo on you for doing war crimes in China lmao. You know shit's fucked when the country who terrorized the Philippines and Puerto Rico a decade or two before was all "Maybe cool it with the babies on bayonets and mass prisoner executions?"

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CyborgMarx [any, any] - 2day

Let's be real, the US in the 30s couldn't give a shit about Japanese war crimes in China, the embargo was pure power politics and protectionism

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PolandIsAStateOfMind @lemmygrad.ml - 2day

Lenin in 1918 even predicted that war, though it started later than he thought because neither Japan nor USA were ready for it.

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miz [any, any] - 2day

"the League of Nations was very impolite to us, which is why we walked out on those meanies"

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Civility [none/use name] - 1day

😤

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Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them] - 1day

The US embargoed them entirely to prevent an imperialist rival from rising, it was never about the atrocities, they were always an excuse.

Which is one of Japan's biggest issues with the whole thing, they were pissed off that the western empires didn't care about atrocities, but that a non-western country was the one doing them.

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miz [any, any] - 2day

I am sure this guy's opinions on the Nanjing Massacre are very very normal

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ClathrateG [none/use name] - 2day

'I would have totally won that beheading contest sicko-wistful '

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BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them] - 2day

That's like the one time in US history it wasn't the instigator lmao

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barrbaric [he/him] - 2day

We talk a lot about how the denazification of germany was a failure/not even really attempted post-WWII, but as far as I'm aware in Japan they did even less.

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KobaCumTribute [she/her] - 2day

Pretty much. With the Nazis they had to make a show of doing something with their leaders and the most notorious officials and soldiers, at least the ones the US deemed "not useful enough" to reappropriate for themselves, and then with West Germany they had to at least try to hide that they were just installing Nazis back into power. With Japan they didn't need any more PR than the subjugation of the country and the subordination of its own empire to the American empire, so they actively worked to rebuild it as their subordinate.

There are declassified State Department documents that say as much, how important it is to just completely rebuild Imperial Japan but underneath US control. I remember those being posted on the old sub and I wish I'd save them as a reference.

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Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name] - 2day

if you ask a random person in the 21st century their favorite historical figure, odds are you're gonna get the most recent far-right politician that got into power.

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Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her] - 2day

"They tried to stop us from conquering the world so we had no choice but to attack them."

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P1d40n3 [he/him] - 2day

The scum come crawling out.

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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1day

oh boy another head of a wanna-be samurai to collect. please, sir, present your neck.

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Civility [none/use name] - 1day

😔

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mrbeano - 2day

Everyone's just doing Trump parodies for their posts now.

Thank you for attention to this natter.

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