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How does one figure out which of the communities a post is supposed to be posted on?

I am intrigued by this Hexbear design of yours, there is one really confusing thing about it however.

Why are there so many redundancies in the community section?

There seems to be a stern stance on content labeling policies and I don't see any issues with that or have any complaints about it, because it's very easy to understand and seems to serve a good cause or at the very least not harm anyone, but then why is the community structure here so laissez-faire and difficult to understand?

I'm deducing that the reason there are so many communities is because a subsection of a particular interest is not enjoyed by the general interest group and therefore they splinter, but would it not make more sense to remain intact and simply give users the ability to content label?

How I see it working in practical terms myself:

Let's say I'd like to post my art, but my art fits a particular niche that many people don't enjoy, so instead of moving me to a splinter cell, which can eventually create confusion or become so small nobody participates anymore de-facto driving people away, why not instead give me the ability to label my art posts within the art community and just hide them entirely from people who don't want to see them?

The only label I see is the NSFW label, which has also lost it's meaning and primarily seems to serve as a general CW blur button, but I am thinking this would be very difficult to implement what I'm asking for too? I'm not tech-savvy so idk what the people who run this website have to change in the code box, to make it have more expansive post labeling system.

ConcreteHalloween [none/use name] - 2w

You make a post there and wait to see if the users yell at you for it.

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SchillMenaker [he/him] - 2w

Rule #1: Never stop posting

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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 2w

used to be you'd just post on main, and main was all we needed, until woke happened

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miz [any, any] - 2w

the posts in main fall mainly on my brain

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MoreAmphibians [none/use name] - 2w

We have way too many communities for the number of users that we have and people keep asking for even more super-niche communities. I would cut them down starting with every community that hasn't had a post for the past month.

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oscardejarjayes [comrade/them] - 2w

Yeah, I think we should start locking communities.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

I think communities should be thought of as communities rather than categories or labels. When you decide where to make a post, you should consider who would like to see it, rather than what you would describe the post as. A post in the movies comm should be interesting to people who like movies or television.

Also, a post can be made in multiple comms. However if you make the same post in multiple comms, only 1 of the posts might appear on the front page due to deduplication. You can just pick whichever community you think is most relevant.

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Bob_Odenkirk [none/use name] - 2w

Does anyone actually use this site through browsing comms rather than scrolling /all?

Imo ‘the community’ is the entire website, there aren’t meaningful communities within that, except maybe the news megathread honestly.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

I think there are users who have selected a list of subscribed comms and then change their profile to only show subscribed comms. They do this to hide comms like fakenews and badposting or whatever other things they don't like. Also users from other instances only visit specific hexbear comms.

Anecdotally, I've noticed that posts receive different levels of attention depending on which comm that I post them in.

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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 2w

i imagine it's more common to block list the undesired comms than to allow-list only some preferred comms, never know when somebody will post something neat to a comm you didn't know existed and maybe you want to see that.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

Why is it 2 users who have 0 posts that are trying to argue with me that the comm has no impact on the post engagement?

It is observable that posting in a comm with less subs gets less attention. Users with 0 posts are not going to know that.

For example, when the_dunk_tank and gossip/slop replaced that comm, there was a period of time where there was a significant drop off engagment to the posts.

There are users on the site who only browse the news comm. There are users on the website who only go into the news megathread. There are users who only posts in the other megathreads There are users who only view their subscribed comms.

If I posted the same link in a comm with only a few subscribers as I did the /c/chapotraphouse comm, the chapotraphouse post would be more engagement because it has 23000 subs.

It is observable that there are different communities within hexbear. The existence of the megathreads proves that. You can go into the megathreads, click on random profiles and see that they only post within the megathread.

Honestly, it's kind of self-centered to think that every user on hexbear behaves in the same way. It just assumes that everyone else behaves in the exact same way as you.

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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 2w

i wasn't arguing with you i was describing the ui/ux's path of least resistance to feed curation, and estimating one behavior would be more common than another.

switching to allow list and then allowing one comm only doesn't make a ton of sense when you can just bookmark the comm instead of the site's top-level.

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oscardejarjayes [comrade/them] - 2w

Yeah, I go through comms sometimes, there's a few where I've read every post, most of which had little to no front-page time.

There's a few people that exclusively exist in the Traa megathread too, I think it's a distinct community. Has it's own Matrix channels and everything.

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gayspacemarxist [comrade/them, she/her] - 2w

Hexbear uses coms as labels as a growth hack. There aren't enough people on here to actually maintain multiple boards as independent groups. Federation is more of an entertainment factor, catering to external users dilutes the local vibe. The center of the site is the mega threads. Everything else is liberalism.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

The megathreads are for people who wish that hexbear was still a discord. The megathreads ape the posting style of a discord. Hexbear is a lemmy instance, not a discord instance. Lemmy posting behavior replicates the model of reddit. Lemmy software is intended to be used for posting links. It's a link aggregator software.

I don't like the megathreads. I don't like discord-style post. I don't like discord. I recognize that people who wish hexbear was a discord exist and I tolerate their existence. Thinking that megathread users are the only users to exist on the website is also self-centered.

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gayspacemarxist [comrade/them, she/her] - 2w

Hexbear started off as not federated. There's no reason the site should cater to any audience but itself. Hexbear adds value to lemmy, not the other way around. The way that was built is through megathreads. You may not like them, but it's factually how hexbear was built so they're always going to be and important feature of this website.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

That's not true. Hexbear was good before megathreads even existed. The megathreads only formed around 2022. Hexbear existed since 2020.

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gayspacemarxist [comrade/them, she/her] - 2w

My mistake

Live and let live i guess

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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 2w

I just post wherever tbh

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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 2w

The only way TO post

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Assian_Candor [comrade/them] - 2w

monke-beepboop

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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 2w

the categorization problem is a fundamental flaw of reddit and therefore a flaw with lemmy.

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dead [he/him] - 2w

Further, the proof that hexbear is made up of smaller communities with varying interests is that posting in a wrong comm sometimes results in users complaining on the post. People who have not made posts have not experienced this.

There have been many times where I have made a post and some rude person comments on my post that they don't think that my post is interesting or that they don't like it.

The general behavior of making a post is that users post things that they find to be interesting themselves and want to have interactions with other people who also share the same interest.

I want to make posts about things that I think are interesting (somewhat for personal notetaking purposes), but also I want other people with similar interests to discuss the subject of the post. I don't want engagement from people who are uninterested. It serves no positive purpose to interact with people who are uninterested.

I can understand that not every person will think that every post is interesting. However, if a user finds a post to be uninteresting, they should just ignore the post or report the post if it violates rules.

People should make comments on posts that they like. Comments boost a post in the algorithm. Negative comments boost a post in the algorithm. Positive comments boost a post in the algorithm. Therefore users should only post on comments that they think are good posts, so that good posts are boosted in the algorithm.

The existence of comms somewhat fixes this problem. If a user doesn't like the interests of the community, they can simply not participate in the specific comm.

Some users like shitposting, ie low effort meme/joke posts. Some users don't like to see shitposting. The people who like shitposting formed the badposting comm. If the badposting comm was closed overnight and shitposting was returned a larger comm, there would be many people complaining.

There are also many contrarians on hexbear, people who think themselves as above mainstream culture. The mere observation of mainstream cultural events sparks outrage in their minds. The behavior suggests that mainstream culture is not to be observed as if ignoring a thing magically makes the thing disappear from existence.

The idea that comms should not be thought of as communities is anti-materialist. It tries to alienate the human interaction element from the material element of the interaction. Posts are relations between humans, not independently acting objects. Posts should be imagined as interactions between humans, not labeled like living objects.

How anyone can think that hexbear is "one big community where every person has the same interests" when it is also known for having frequent 'struggle sessions' ie tedious arguments?

The most important thing to consider when you choose which comm to post in is imagining who you would like to interact with. Your post is an interaction with other people and hexbear users are evidently not all the same.

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RedSturgeon [she/her] - 2w

Yeah I get what you're saying and don't get me wrong I don't want 1 big hivemind.

I just like adding anthropomorphic animals to my creations and otherwise they would be eligible to go in a lot of different kind of comms, but there's a certain stereotype surrounding it now, that was manufactured by American cultural hegemony and now many people have reactionary sentiment towards it.

I think me just asking to be tolerated is idealistic and will not happen. I don't want to stop making what I enjoy, when there's no harm in it either. So the only thing I could realistically see is if I was given labels and then people could just hide me, if it's too difficult or they have no interest in fighting the particle inside them. And it might even make it easier for them to get over it if I'm allowed to exist outside of a segregated community.

I'm sure there are exceptions and context matters a lot ofc.

Lemmy seems to already be working on it tho' so my post was kind of redundant. I feel kind of bad wasting people's time now. I'll be more diligent in the future.

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oscardejarjayes [comrade/them] - 2w

Personally I just post to whichever comm comes to mind first, assuming it follows the rules. At the end of the day, it usually ends up on the front page, so ultimately the comm doesn't matter too much. Another thing to consider is the moderators of a particular comm, some comms don't have many active mods, and mods are people, so ofc they'll have biases. Which particular mod controls a comm isn't as big of a deal as the rest of Lemmy though, since we've got a lot tighter ideological cohesion, and somewhat less tolerance for mod abuse.

There's a few things that are pretty simple, like Drug stuff goes in c/Drugs. Some people really don't want to see Drug content (ex-addicts, etc.), so it's great to have only one place you need to block.

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jackmaoist [none/use name] - 2w

Post wherever you want lol. Use c/slop or something.

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RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them] - 2w

You're not limited to what is on Hexbear. You can find and subscribe to communities from other Lemmy sites. For example, !pravda_news@news.abolish.capital is an instance I run as a kind of news wire and this is its primary comm.

!capitalismindecay@lemmygrad.ml is a great comm from lemmygrad.ml that is mostly a single users research on Fascism.

!linux@lemmy.ml and !libre@hexbear.net have some overlap but have different user bases.

!worldnews@lemmy.ml !news@hexbear.net !globalnews@lemmy.zip have similar content but the broad communities that make up their host instance changes the dynamics and makeup of their respective news communities. Some are more lib vs leftist.

Comms exist here for people with a similar worldview to talk and discuss shared interests. You might find similar topics of interest on other sites but not similar world views.

Labels are coming in v1.0 of Lemmy, which you can learn more about on the official Lemmy website https://join-lemmy.org/.

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RedSturgeon [she/her] - 2w

Thank you for pointing me the the website I didn't know there was an official one. In retrospect my concerns are redundant since people were working on the sort of thing I had in mind, how embarrassing lol

Oh well live and learn.

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