Will it teach you how to be a wrecker and defend pedophilia?
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WashedAnus [he/him] - 1w
Like Grock posting about white genocide in South Africa, the WSWS bot will be defending Harvey Weinstein after answering every prompt
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Juice @midwest.social - 1w
defend pedo
That's the Sparts
1
xiaohongshu [none/use name] - 1w
Clearly the solution is to counter it with Hexbear GPT.
26
SpookyBogMonster @lemmy.ml - 1w
HexGPT would call you a lib, and/or send PPB every time you asked it a question
22
Awoo [she/her] - 1w
HexGPT would respond to everything with "Haha Beanis "
13
ColombianLenin [he/him] - 1w
90% Chance of a thoughtful answer
8% Shitpost reply
2% PPB
5
WellTheresYourCobbler [ey/em, they/them] - 1w
This is a great but idea tbh
7
10TH_OF_SEPTEMBER_CALL [any, any] - 1w
friend of mine made a llm with a very dark and acid personality its fun as hell lmao
doomerAI: i dont care
5
30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her] - 1w
UlyssesGPT, and it just writes unhinged screeds about Elon Musk and semi-popular streaming shows
And Star Citizen
10
Bob_Odenkirk [none/use name] - 1w
Media criticism bot trained solely on movie trailers.
4
OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 1w
I bet the right like 5-10 prompts could turn it into a stalinist
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Keld [he/him, any] - 1w
If it's actually trot you basically need one prompt, and it's "Don't be mad at AES" and then it's functionally an ML.
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Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
Probably more likely to go full anti-com than actually ever say anything positive about AES, if they coded it correctly.
3
Juice @midwest.social - 1w
One of my mentors used to be very into WSWS and attended one of their conferences with his wife. They spent half the convention condemning US elections, and the other half promoting their presidential candidates.
He got a chance to speak during the convention and asked if anyone considered running a presidential candidate to be an endorsement for the electoral system they are simultaneously condemning. The convention got really angry with him and he was shouted down. Later, during a break, he and his wife were surrounded by angry, shouting ICFI sickos. Just when it seemed like the mob was going to become violent, someone identifying as an anarchist broke through the mob, grabbed him and his wife, threw them in his truck and sped off in an attempt to rescue them.
I signed up for their mailing list at the last no kings protest in my city. I was doing outreach for DSA, and would be considered a trotskyist myself, though from a completely different tradition than WSWS. I get texts from them time to time like "hey would you like to chat" and I'm like yeah i'd love to but I'm in DSA, and then never get a response
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space_comrade [he/him] - 1w
The convention got really angry with him and he was shouted down. Later, during a break, he and his wife were surrounded by angry, shouting ICFI sickos. Just when it seemed like the mob was going to become violent, someone identifying as an anarchist broke through the mob, grabbed him and his wife, threw them in his truck and sped off in an attempt to rescue them.
Bruh what, this feels like copypasta lmao.
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DornerStan @lemmygrad.ml - 1w
DSA trots are so much better than trot-party trots for some reason.
All the trot orgs I've tried to work with were wreckers or cults.
But the times I've worked with the DSA I've seen trots, MLs, and anarchists working side by side. Much more productive. Definitely varies chapter to chapter I'm sure
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SpookyBogMonster @lemmy.ml - 1w
DSA trots are so much better than trot-party trots for some reason.
Tbh, I think it comes down to DSA being a big tent. Trots in that org have to actually engage with other tendencies in good faith.
I think that ideological diversity keeps the culty weirdos away
11
purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
I think it's absolutely correct to run communist candidates in an election, there's no fucking "platforming" the US Presidential election. They're the ones with the platform and you're seeking to exploit it.
There's no reason to menace someone over not understanding this extremely easy to understand concept. One way or another, every major trot group that I find out about in America are cultish freaks.
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Juice @midwest.social - 1w
I don't know if it is absolute correctness but there are def some viable tactics. We even have advantages as a hyper minority that major parties don't have.
I don't think that having such an extreme contradiction in your platform should be something that goes uncriticized. Lenin was explicit about when and how and why to run in elections, and his views on it changed with the conditions the revolutionary party would face.
There's also pretty sharp contradictions about running for an executive office, the Zohran Mamdani win is churning up mountains of them before he's even taken office. Its generated a ton of interest, energy and engagement though that is being converted into growing numbers of new socialists, DSA is at its highest number of members ever, becoming the largest single USAmerican socialist org in like 100 years.
There's no conclusion to be reached yet, just lots to analyse, lots to criticise, and our biases are maybe some of our worst enemies. I think we gotta be ready to be tested over and over, in a way that the ambient sectarianism of the last 50 years or so hasn't prepared us for. Imma just keep my mind on the work and try to train up as many new socialists as possible for the next phase.
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purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
Mamdani's electoral victory is entryist though, so it's not an example of the standard Marxist line regardless.
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Juice @midwest.social - 1w
Is it entryism? Like entry into the democratic party? Like I said I'm hesitant to draw sharp conclusions like this, I'd need to see some of the analysis behind calling it entryist, and that analysis would have to include a lot of detail pertaining to the political character of NYC-DSA.
Also curious what the "standard Marxist line" is related to Mamdani's victory. Sounds like abstraction, which is fine, but a Marxist's abstraction is only as good as the particulars it allows us to tactically engage
4
purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
It's entryism because he ran as a Democrat, rather than under the banner of a socialist party. Being under the discipline of a bourgeois party is not conducive to advancing a socialist platform.
6
Juice @midwest.social - 1w
Yeah, I agree. Factions in DSA call it the party surrogate strategy, these are the factions that make up the largest parts of the membership in NYC-DSA and represent the moderate social democratic wing of the org. NYC is also the largest and most electorally successful chapters in the org, which creates some deliberate tensions in contrast to DSA national.
5
ClathrateG [none/use name] - 1w
Sorry kid I already have DeepSeek
21
RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
lol I'm glad I disabled their feed. How embarrassing.
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Kuori [she/her] - 1w
"Greetings comrade! Can I interest you in a pamphlet about Harvey Weinstein's innocence?"
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SpookyBogMonster @lemmy.ml - 1w
Who's that white guy supposed to be?
18
cerealkiller [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
David North, editor of the World Socialist Website (WSWS). Periodic reminder that WSWS is obsessed with defending Hollywood sickos like Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.
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purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
Maybe they are confusing Woody Allen with Alan Woods
15
SpookyBogMonster @lemmy.ml - 1w
Isn't Alan Woods the Trot who thinks the Big Bang theory isn't real, because it's not dialectical enough or whatever?
11
purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
Yeah, that's him.
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SpookyBogMonster @lemmy.ml - 1w
I've always been tempted to read his book about it, and see what the hell he's up to.
But like... Who cares? What does the origin of the universe have to do with building communism?
10
InevitableSwing [none/use name] - 1w
Hello, I'm AI Socialism but you can me AL.
14
duderium [he/him] - 1w
If you’ll be my bodyguard, I can be your long-lost pal.
11
peeonyou [he/him] - 1w
I can call you User, and User when you call me, you can call me AiL
2
ClathrateG [none/use name] - 1w
Jeremy Corncob
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Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name] - 1w
A comrade and I recently had a talk (that descended into an argument, considering how angry one of them got) with a SEP person about the interwar period. The guy who got angry blamed the rise of the nazis to the Stalinist KPD leadership, which supposedly refused to collaborate with the SPD and create an electoral popular front.
Come to think of it, that's basically the SPD narrative among those few left that are not anticommunist to the point of demonizing socialists.
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Awoo [she/her] - 1w
Leadership can't do jack shit if the entire base won't actually follow leadership. Even if they agreed to an alliance the party and its sympathisers would not have enthusiastically followed it because they fucking hated the SPD for everything they had already done. KPD leadership's hands were tied even if they wanted to (they did not). We can talk about subordination to the party decisions all we want but you can't get people to do something they're truly against, it causes splits instead.
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segfault11 [she/her, any] - 1w
TROT = That Revisionist Over There
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LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
First there were stupid newspapers nobody seriously read, then a stupid website nobody seriously read, and now a stupid chat bot nobody will seriously use
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mayakovsky [any] - 1w
So what did they do? Pay OpenAI for the llm access and give it a "you are a socialist" context prompt?
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jack [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
It's actually just a bunch of Indian trots, though
6
purpleworm [none/use name] - 1w
first-ever socialist chatbot
Do we have any reason to believe this, or is it just trots being self-important? Deepseek makes this question annoying to look up.
15
Llituro [he/him, they/them] - 1w
me when i failed to do the necessary reading to understand why this is a terrible idea
cerealkiller in slop
Trots are wildin' out (Socialism AI)
Will it teach you how to be a wrecker and defend pedophilia?
Like Grock posting about white genocide in South Africa, the WSWS bot will be defending Harvey Weinstein after answering every prompt
That's the Sparts
Clearly the solution is to counter it with Hexbear GPT.
HexGPT would call you a lib, and/or send PPB every time you asked it a question
HexGPT would respond to everything with "Haha Beanis
"
90% Chance of a thoughtful answer
8% Shitpost reply
2% PPB
This is a great but idea tbh
friend of mine made a llm with a very dark and acid personality its fun as hell lmao
doomerAI: i dont care
UlyssesGPT, and it just writes unhinged screeds about Elon Musk and semi-popular streaming shows
And Star Citizen
Media criticism bot trained solely on movie trailers.
I bet the right like 5-10 prompts could turn it into a stalinist
If it's actually trot you basically need one prompt, and it's "Don't be mad at AES" and then it's functionally an ML.
Probably more likely to go full anti-com than actually ever say anything positive about AES, if they coded it correctly.
One of my mentors used to be very into WSWS and attended one of their conferences with his wife. They spent half the convention condemning US elections, and the other half promoting their presidential candidates.
He got a chance to speak during the convention and asked if anyone considered running a presidential candidate to be an endorsement for the electoral system they are simultaneously condemning. The convention got really angry with him and he was shouted down. Later, during a break, he and his wife were surrounded by angry, shouting ICFI sickos. Just when it seemed like the mob was going to become violent, someone identifying as an anarchist broke through the mob, grabbed him and his wife, threw them in his truck and sped off in an attempt to rescue them.
I signed up for their mailing list at the last no kings protest in my city. I was doing outreach for DSA, and would be considered a trotskyist myself, though from a completely different tradition than WSWS. I get texts from them time to time like "hey would you like to chat" and I'm like yeah i'd love to but I'm in DSA, and then never get a response
Bruh what, this feels like copypasta lmao.
DSA trots are so much better than trot-party trots for some reason.
All the trot orgs I've tried to work with were wreckers or cults.
But the times I've worked with the DSA I've seen trots, MLs, and anarchists working side by side. Much more productive. Definitely varies chapter to chapter I'm sure
Tbh, I think it comes down to DSA being a big tent. Trots in that org have to actually engage with other tendencies in good faith.
I think that ideological diversity keeps the culty weirdos away
I think it's absolutely correct to run communist candidates in an election, there's no fucking "platforming" the US Presidential election. They're the ones with the platform and you're seeking to exploit it.
There's no reason to menace someone over not understanding this extremely easy to understand concept. One way or another, every major trot group that I find out about in America are cultish freaks.
I don't know if it is absolute correctness but there are def some viable tactics. We even have advantages as a hyper minority that major parties don't have.
I don't think that having such an extreme contradiction in your platform should be something that goes uncriticized. Lenin was explicit about when and how and why to run in elections, and his views on it changed with the conditions the revolutionary party would face.
There's also pretty sharp contradictions about running for an executive office, the Zohran Mamdani win is churning up mountains of them before he's even taken office. Its generated a ton of interest, energy and engagement though that is being converted into growing numbers of new socialists, DSA is at its highest number of members ever, becoming the largest single USAmerican socialist org in like 100 years.
There's no conclusion to be reached yet, just lots to analyse, lots to criticise, and our biases are maybe some of our worst enemies. I think we gotta be ready to be tested over and over, in a way that the ambient sectarianism of the last 50 years or so hasn't prepared us for. Imma just keep my mind on the work and try to train up as many new socialists as possible for the next phase.
Mamdani's electoral victory is entryist though, so it's not an example of the standard Marxist line regardless.
Is it entryism? Like entry into the democratic party? Like I said I'm hesitant to draw sharp conclusions like this, I'd need to see some of the analysis behind calling it entryist, and that analysis would have to include a lot of detail pertaining to the political character of NYC-DSA.
Also curious what the "standard Marxist line" is related to Mamdani's victory. Sounds like abstraction, which is fine, but a Marxist's abstraction is only as good as the particulars it allows us to tactically engage
It's entryism because he ran as a Democrat, rather than under the banner of a socialist party. Being under the discipline of a bourgeois party is not conducive to advancing a socialist platform.
Yeah, I agree. Factions in DSA call it the party surrogate strategy, these are the factions that make up the largest parts of the membership in NYC-DSA and represent the moderate social democratic wing of the org. NYC is also the largest and most electorally successful chapters in the org, which creates some deliberate tensions in contrast to DSA national.
Sorry kid I already have DeepSeek
lol I'm glad I disabled their feed. How embarrassing.
"Greetings comrade! Can I interest you in a pamphlet about Harvey Weinstein's innocence?"
Who's that white guy supposed to be?
David North, editor of the World Socialist Website (WSWS). Periodic reminder that WSWS is obsessed with defending Hollywood sickos like Roman Polanski and Woody Allen.
Maybe they are confusing Woody Allen with Alan Woods
Isn't Alan Woods the Trot who thinks the Big Bang theory isn't real, because it's not dialectical enough or whatever?
Yeah, that's him.
I've always been tempted to read his book about it, and see what the hell he's up to.
But like... Who cares? What does the origin of the universe have to do with building communism?
Hello, I'm AI Socialism but you can me AL.
If you’ll be my bodyguard, I can be your long-lost pal.
I can call you User, and User when you call me, you can call me AiL
Jeremy Corncob
A comrade and I recently had a talk (that descended into an argument, considering how angry one of them got) with a SEP person about the interwar period. The guy who got angry blamed the rise of the nazis to the Stalinist KPD leadership, which supposedly refused to collaborate with the SPD and create an electoral popular front.
Come to think of it, that's basically the SPD narrative among those few left that are not anticommunist to the point of demonizing socialists.
Leadership can't do jack shit if the entire base won't actually follow leadership. Even if they agreed to an alliance the party and its sympathisers would not have enthusiastically followed it because they fucking hated the SPD for everything they had already done. KPD leadership's hands were tied even if they wanted to (they did not). We can talk about subordination to the party decisions all we want but you can't get people to do something they're truly against, it causes splits instead.
TROT = That Revisionist Over There
First there were stupid newspapers nobody seriously read, then a stupid website nobody seriously read, and now a stupid chat bot nobody will seriously use
So what did they do? Pay OpenAI for the llm access and give it a "you are a socialist" context prompt?
It's actually just a bunch of Indian trots, though
Do we have any reason to believe this, or is it just trots being self-important? Deepseek makes this question annoying to look up.
me when i failed to do the necessary reading to understand why this is a terrible idea
Trotbot