People say the first Avatar had no lasting cultural impact, but do you think it's because it ultimately had the correct message about something most crackkkers wouldn't be comfortable talking about? Sometimes this sort of slop sticks around because people on Twitter are like 'look at this wild scene from this movie you forgot about' of they'll be like 'What did the director mean by this?'
Aside from a dumb story and some bad dialogue, Avatar has an anti-imperialist message and positions the humans who represent the US military as a whole as the bad guys. It also has allusions to how the native Americans were treated and how the US does 9/11 every day to other countries and its no big deal when it happens to them. People probably don't want to dwell on that for too long.
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Wheaties [she/her] - 1w
I mean, it had a cultural impact when it came out. That's more than you can say for films released today.
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GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 1w
i remember the blue fleshlights too
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Wheaties [she/her] - 1w
Ok, I might have been too young and too mormon at the time to have seen that.
How is the average amerikkkan supposed to remember cheering for US Marines getting fucking obliterated by arrows the size of pool cues?
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1w
i googled avatar 3 to see if avatar 3 came out and typo'd avatar 4 and yes they're making avatar 4
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Carl [he/him] - 1w
i googled avatar 3 and
three hours seventeen minutes
this is one of the major reasons why i don't go to theaters anymore
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Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem] - 1w
COVID-19? Positive
Legs? Asleep
Pants? Pissed
Yup, it's cinema time
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nothx [he/him] - 1w
I don’t miss it at all.
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KuroXppi [they/them] - 1w
I watched it at outdoor cinema and it was about 6 degrees by the time the movie wrapped up (during summer)
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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 1w
Popcorn? Thrown
Chicken? Jockied
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insurgentrat [she/her, it/its] - 1w
Why is a long film bad? Maybe I'm just an old fart but I enjoy something that I can soak in. Intermissions are nice though to stretch.
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Carl [he/him] - 1w
Long films are fine, but for a movie theater I've found that two hours is my limit. If they brought back intermissions for films (which they should!) I wouldn't mind doing a long one though.
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Bob_Odenkirk [none/use name] - 1w
I prefer long films in the cinema to home. In my house I’ll distracted after a while, at the theatre I can really get focussed and immersed.
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WokePalpatine [he/him] - 1w
Do long films have intermissions anymore? They used to have intermissions where you could go get food, bathroom, talk to people and stuff and make a night of it when you're watching a 3+ hour movie which makes way more sense.
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Inui [comrade/them] - 1w
The theaters will sometimes ask for movies that are like 3 hours long, but the studios giving them the films will not work with them anymore if they do because it messes with their vision or whatever.
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insurgentrat [she/her, it/its] - 1w
That's fair. I find my favourite length is around 2-3 hours but I do usually pause and do some tidying or something to get the blood flowing again.
Modern audiences would probably spit the dummy if an intermission broke up the flow these days though. I love how tight modern storytelling is sometimes, other times I feel like it limits you to certain kinda of stories since there's not really good spots to take breaks and you run out of adrenaline after like 30 minutes of action haha.
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 1w
Intermission are crucial. I smoke, I demand the break for that so I don't start jonesing near the climax of the film. But also I think any movie can get 90 minutes.of my free time for granted and the longer it goes after the more it needs to earn it. Some movies need to be long, some movies don't need to be long but theyre better for it.
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Evilsandwichman [none/use name] - 1w
Dune 2 was too long with unnecessary sequences
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 1w
I dont like Villeneuve Dune in general. He got it wrong
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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 1w
you could take a nicotine suppository
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 1w
Irs more about the smoking itself than the nicotine
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Frogmanfromlake [none/use name] - 1w
Silent films had intermissions when they reached a certain length. Not sure why they stopped
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buckykat [none/use name] - 1w
James Cameron should be the only person on earth allowed to make a movie over 90 minutes
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gezginorman @lemmy.ml - 1w
according to imdb they're filming avatar 5
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DogThatWentGorp [he/him, they/them] - 1w
I'm more interested in the retrospective video essays than the films at this point.
Not that video essayists aren't making banger stuff, to be clear.
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 1w
I saw the first one in imax ON MUSHROOMS and I was bored.
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IsThisLoss [comrade/them] - 1w
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WokePalpatine [he/him] - 1w
Don't be the guy in Metropolitan who only reads literature criticism and not the books.
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john_brown [comrade/them] - 1w
I don't read posts just comments
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DogThatWentGorp [he/him, they/them] - 1w
Jokes on you I don't read.
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Awoo [she/her] - 1w
They should put Smash Mouth in that one.
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novibe @lemmy.ml - 1w
Since waaay before the first one the idea was always to make 5 movies. James Cameron has been planning and creating Avatar since the 90s.
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Saapas - 1w
We've decided to keep making Avatar for 50 years. With endless options for sequels!
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deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them] - 1w
2025 Cotton Hill
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WokePalpatine [he/him] - 1w
Killed fitty blue men.
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thefunkycomitatus [comrade/them, they/them] - 1w
Long time and proud James Cameron hater here. I do not have to take this series seriously when the creator does not. I do not care if the tropes from old John Wayne movies read State & Revolution in pidgin English for 3 hours. You do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to James Cameron."
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Awoo [she/her] - 1w
Fantasy dwarf dating a drow?
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9to5 [any, comrade/them] - 1w
Its from the Avatar Franchise (the movies ...not the kids animation)
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Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem] - 1w
Oh, I remember that original movie by M Night Shyamalan about the boy with the blue arrow on his forehead that could move air with his mind or whatever — cool movie! It's the highest grossing movie of all time for a reason, certainly, and just as certainly the highlight of Shyamalan's career, but I somehow never heard there was a sequel… Of course, as you say, M Night Shyamalan's Avatar is not to be confused with the Nickelodeon children's animated series Avatar: The Battle for Pandora created by James Cameron, his only ever foray into children's TV cartoons, and a damn successful one at that.
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JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them] - 1w
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Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem] - 1w
Huh? What's that supposed to mean? I'm just talking about some of my favorite movies and shows from my childhood.
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Awoo [she/her] - 1w
Ahh ok. I recognise the general, not so much the other but I haven't seen Fire and Ash.
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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 1w
The dude is the bad guys from the first one and the navi is the evil queen from the new one, both are allied i think
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Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them] - 1w
But didn't he blue himself at some point? IDK I only watched the first one
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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 1w
I think he did, i think its the origin of this emote
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towhee [he/him] - 1w
Nah that’s Wainfleet, a braindead gun jock who had the same thing happen to him and is as a result the most enduring meme from the second film
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Wheaties [she/her] - 1w
He dies in the first movie, the second movie starts with the company uploading a backup scan of his brain to a blue body.
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Lussy [he/him, des/pair] - 1w
Kind of a segue but I just realized I have way more right wing friends than I have liberal friends. Maybe I’m the token brown dude to all of them but a lot of people who’ve welcomed me into their group have been joe rogan looneys and alot of the most exclusionary people have been libs.
Not trying to sanction fash bullshit, but there truly is a reason why everyone hates the libs from either of the two major parties.
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GalaxyBrain [they/them] - 1w
You need a better source of friends.
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Frogmanfromlake [none/use name] - 1w
Every gusana relationship
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insurgentrat [she/her, it/its] - 1w
Hate me if you like but as someone generally pretty disinterested in going to the movies I'll check this new one out. First time going to see a film in cinemar since a screening of baraka a few years back.
It just seems like most films made don't really justify the expense and hassle of a theatre. Sure it's slop but it's beautiful slop, as opposed to fascist capeshit and artistically empty dramas that make up most of what seems to come out in the mainstream.
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ZWQbpkzl [none/use name] - 1w
One of James Cameron's smarter ideas about Avatar is its shit unless you watch it on the biggest screen possible. Its why it makes "All of the money".
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insurgentrat [she/her, it/its] - 1w
Ha! True. Everything except the colours and detail is so mid that it has basically no redeeming features unless you're watching it on a screen that can do proper blacks/contrasts and blow things up enough to see all the work of the animators.
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ZWQbpkzl [none/use name] - 1w
One Battle After Another
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Carl [he/him] - 1w
wasnt the thing with the pandarans that they had tails or were those ponytails
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towhee [he/him] - 1w
Ponytails, however the fire tribe cut theirs off. They might also have tails actually, I don’t remember
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buckykat [none/use name] - 1w
They do also have tails.
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KuroXppi [they/them] - 1w
Pandarens mostly had top knots iirc
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Nomorereddit @lemmy.today - 1w
That's standard tho, Thomas Jefferson had kids with his slaves. Only freed one of them.
towhee in movies
The cultural impact has begun
People say the first Avatar had no lasting cultural impact, but do you think it's because it ultimately had the correct message about something most crackkkers wouldn't be comfortable talking about? Sometimes this sort of slop sticks around because people on Twitter are like 'look at this wild scene from this movie you forgot about' of they'll be like 'What did the director mean by this?'
Aside from a dumb story and some bad dialogue, Avatar has an anti-imperialist message and positions the humans who represent the US military as a whole as the bad guys. It also has allusions to how the native Americans were treated and how the US does 9/11 every day to other countries and its no big deal when it happens to them. People probably don't want to dwell on that for too long.
I mean, it had a cultural impact when it came out. That's more than you can say for films released today.
i remember the blue fleshlights too
There's still time!
How is the average amerikkkan supposed to remember cheering for US Marines getting fucking obliterated by arrows the size of pool cues?
i googled avatar 3 to see if avatar 3 came out and typo'd avatar 4 and yes they're making avatar 4
i googled avatar 3 and
this is one of the major reasons why i don't go to theaters anymore
COVID-19? Positive
Legs? Asleep
Pants? Pissed
Yup, it's cinema time
I don’t miss it at all.
I watched it at outdoor cinema and it was about 6 degrees by the time the movie wrapped up (during summer)
Popcorn? Thrown
Chicken? Jockied
Why is a long film bad? Maybe I'm just an old fart but I enjoy something that I can soak in. Intermissions are nice though to stretch.
Long films are fine, but for a movie theater I've found that two hours is my limit. If they brought back intermissions for films (which they should!) I wouldn't mind doing a long one though.
I prefer long films in the cinema to home. In my house I’ll distracted after a while, at the theatre I can really get focussed and immersed.
Do long films have intermissions anymore? They used to have intermissions where you could go get food, bathroom, talk to people and stuff and make a night of it when you're watching a 3+ hour movie which makes way more sense.
The theaters will sometimes ask for movies that are like 3 hours long, but the studios giving them the films will not work with them anymore if they do because it messes with their vision or whatever.
That's fair. I find my favourite length is around 2-3 hours but I do usually pause and do some tidying or something to get the blood flowing again.
Modern audiences would probably spit the dummy if an intermission broke up the flow these days though. I love how tight modern storytelling is sometimes, other times I feel like it limits you to certain kinda of stories since there's not really good spots to take breaks and you run out of adrenaline after like 30 minutes of action haha.
Intermission are crucial. I smoke, I demand the break for that so I don't start jonesing near the climax of the film. But also I think any movie can get 90 minutes.of my free time for granted and the longer it goes after the more it needs to earn it. Some movies need to be long, some movies don't need to be long but theyre better for it.
Dune 2 was too long with unnecessary sequences
I dont like Villeneuve Dune in general. He got it wrong
you could take a nicotine suppository
Irs more about the smoking itself than the nicotine
Silent films had intermissions when they reached a certain length. Not sure why they stopped
James Cameron should be the only person on earth allowed to make a movie over 90 minutes
according to imdb they're filming avatar 5
I'm more interested in the retrospective video essays than the films at this point.
Not that video essayists aren't making banger stuff, to be clear.
I saw the first one in imax ON MUSHROOMS and I was bored.
Don't be the guy in Metropolitan who only reads literature criticism and not the books.
I don't read posts just comments
Jokes on you I don't read.
They should put Smash Mouth in that one.
Since waaay before the first one the idea was always to make 5 movies. James Cameron has been planning and creating Avatar since the 90s.
We've decided to keep making Avatar for 50 years. With endless options for sequels!
2025 Cotton Hill
Killed fitty blue men.
Long time and proud James Cameron hater here. I do not have to take this series seriously when the creator does not. I do not care if the tropes from old John Wayne movies read State & Revolution in pidgin English for 3 hours. You do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to James Cameron."
Fantasy dwarf dating a drow?
Its from the Avatar Franchise (the movies ...not the kids animation)
Oh, I remember that original movie by M Night Shyamalan about the boy with the blue arrow on his forehead that could move air with his mind or whatever — cool movie! It's the highest grossing movie of all time for a reason, certainly, and just as certainly the highlight of Shyamalan's career, but I somehow never heard there was a sequel… Of course, as you say, M Night Shyamalan's Avatar is not to be confused with the Nickelodeon children's animated series Avatar: The Battle for Pandora created by James Cameron, his only ever foray into children's TV cartoons, and a damn successful one at that.
Huh? What's that supposed to mean? I'm just talking about some of my favorite movies and shows from my childhood.
Ahh ok. I recognise the general, not so much the other but I haven't seen Fire and Ash.
The dude is the bad guys from the first one and the navi is the evil queen from the new one, both are allied i think
But didn't he blue himself at some point? IDK I only watched the first one
I think he did, i think its the origin of this emote
Nah that’s Wainfleet, a braindead gun jock who had the same thing happen to him and is as a result the most enduring meme from the second film
He dies in the first movie, the second movie starts with the company uploading a backup scan of his brain to a blue body.
Kind of a segue but I just realized I have way more right wing friends than I have liberal friends. Maybe I’m the token brown dude to all of them but a lot of people who’ve welcomed me into their group have been joe rogan looneys and alot of the most exclusionary people have been libs.
Not trying to sanction fash bullshit, but there truly is a reason why everyone hates the libs from either of the two major parties.
You need a better source of friends.
Every gusana relationship
Hate me if you like but as someone generally pretty disinterested in going to the movies I'll check this new one out. First time going to see a film in cinemar since a screening of baraka a few years back.
It just seems like most films made don't really justify the expense and hassle of a theatre. Sure it's slop but it's beautiful slop, as opposed to fascist capeshit and artistically empty dramas that make up most of what seems to come out in the mainstream.
One of James Cameron's smarter ideas about Avatar is its shit unless you watch it on the biggest screen possible. Its why it makes "All of the money".
Ha! True. Everything except the colours and detail is so mid that it has basically no redeeming features unless you're watching it on a screen that can do proper blacks/contrasts and blow things up enough to see all the work of the animators.
One Battle After Another
wasnt the thing with the pandarans that they had tails or were those ponytails
Ponytails, however the fire tribe cut theirs off. They might also have tails actually, I don’t remember
They do also have tails.
Pandarens mostly had top knots iirc
That's standard tho, Thomas Jefferson had kids with his slaves. Only freed one of them.