Whether or not you consider it “disinfo,” doesn’t it smell rather like astroturf? Note that !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com is one of the targeted communities.
And right away someone is talking about how "the Uighur genocide is ongoing". Fucking Ghost of Kiev alternate reality that even the Biden legal team rejected back when repression was clearly higher than it is now.
To these people, being guilty of genocide is just the same thing as the US not liking you.
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FunkyStuff [he/him] - 2w
It is really mind boggling that it only comes up on Lemmy nowadays. The State Department moved on, they aren't really saying much about China other than the fentanyl scare and some stuff about tiktok. Yet Lemmy libs are still serving their sinophobia the old fashioned way. The last allies of the Uighur people.
Maybe the Uighur genocide will get its own scholars on Lemmy who will build a body of work of circular citations on each other? They could be writing statements of solidarity with fictional ethnic groups in China, too, and ask a chat bot to pretend it's a child laborer in a Chinese province that's so oppressed it doesn't even show up on the map.
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PolandIsAStateOfMind @lemmygrad.ml - 2w
Maybe the Uighur genocide will get its own scholars on Lemmy who will build a body of work of circular citations on each other?
Wiki already did, the article there have 401 citations tied like gordian knot with very prominent Adrian Zenz face on it.
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RedSturgeon [she/her] - 2w
Only comes up on Lemmy.
Well I wouldn't say that's necessarily true. But I do think it comes up in groups that are alienated, which have only increasingly been detached and therefore you wouldn't notice it as much, anymore. Particularly the liberal groups, who have built their identity around caring for human rights.
The unfortunate thing is, these liberals have been part of the very problem for why there's pushback against "Western Human Rights", because the West never care for human rights, they were just doing imperialism. But these liberals fully bought into the idea that they are the good ones. They see things like homosexuality being targeted and it makes them think they have to be the "saviors" after all. Yes it is very bad there's an increase in homophobia etc. but why is there increase and what can we do about it is the crucial questions.
They don't want to ask those questions. If you are someone who asks them you also get ostracized from those groups. My life would probably be a lot easier if I stopped thinking and said what I am supposed to say. There are incredibly few communities that are both socially liberating and stand up for things like trans rights, and are anti-imperialist. At least where I live.
Sorry I might have carried on for too long.
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Horse {they/them} - 2w
It is really mind boggling that it only comes up on Lemmy nowadays. The State Department moved on, they aren’t really saying much about China other than the fentanyl scare and some stuff about tiktok. Yet Lemmy libs are still serving their sinophobia the old fashioned way. The last allies of the Uighur people.
that makes me think that it isn't a proper coordinated astroturf and is instead a disparate group of self-reinforcing lib cranks who have glommed on to a pet cause despite all evidence that what they believe is bunk
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PKMKII [none/use name] - 2w
They could be writing statements of solidarity with fictional ethnic groups in China, too
I think I’ve seen some of those “hypothetical post-Balkanization” maps of China libs sometimes whip up that have kingdoms/states on them that haven’t existed for centuries and correspond to no modern political, cultural, or ethnic identity so, not far off.
I have a hard time believing it wasn't reported by the mod that I was calling out. This makes it hard to interpret it any other way than retaliation for calling them out for misogyny.
it's effectively the same as being banned with remove all posts
Yeah, but at least the remove option still lets your account exist. And instead it's made clear you have been banned.
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Cowbee [he/him, they/them] - 2w
Congrats on being principled enough to get erased from their view, they haven't done that for me it seems. Probably because I tend to stick to Lemmy.ml on my .ml account, but still, impressive on your part
I like when liberals don't even know the names of the places that make them screm+cri.
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Collatz_problem [comrade/them] - 2w
ge oxide
Explains, why China limited the export of germanium. All germanium oxide is being commited in uyghurs.
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Diva (she/her) - 2w
The article by the guy posing with the sword from sword art online has such questionable methodology. like a large number of the posts from the spike of activity at the end are just imported posts from Reddit due to the genzedong lifeboat, and the "analysis" was all from the Google API tool saying that bad words are being used.
and he gets paid for this!
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CloutAtlas [he/him] - 2w
Such a cringe sword. Of all the fictional swords to get a replica of, SAO shows you have worse taste than someone walking around with fuckin' Frostmourne or Zanpakutō or even the goddamn Keyblade
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ZeroHora @lemmy.ml - 2w
The SAO sword always looks like paper, even as a real metal sword still doesn't look like a sword.
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optissima @lemmy.ml - 2w
Thanks for the list, was getting caught up in their BS.
LemmySlopSkimmer in slop
"3½ years of anti-China & anti-Russia news posts by several similar Lemmy accounts"
https://mander.xyz/post/42795397Abridged from the original post.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/39655060
And right away someone is talking about how "the Uighur genocide is ongoing". Fucking Ghost of Kiev alternate reality that even the Biden legal team rejected back when repression was clearly higher than it is now.
To these people, being guilty of genocide is just the same thing as the US not liking you.
It is really mind boggling that it only comes up on Lemmy nowadays. The State Department moved on, they aren't really saying much about China other than the fentanyl scare and some stuff about tiktok. Yet Lemmy libs are still serving their sinophobia the old fashioned way. The last allies of the Uighur people.
Maybe the Uighur genocide will get its own scholars on Lemmy who will build a body of work of circular citations on each other? They could be writing statements of solidarity with fictional ethnic groups in China, too, and ask a chat bot to pretend it's a child laborer in a Chinese province that's so oppressed it doesn't even show up on the map.
Wiki already did, the article there have 401 citations tied like gordian knot with very prominent Adrian Zenz face on it.
Well I wouldn't say that's necessarily true. But I do think it comes up in groups that are alienated, which have only increasingly been detached and therefore you wouldn't notice it as much, anymore. Particularly the liberal groups, who have built their identity around caring for human rights.
The unfortunate thing is, these liberals have been part of the very problem for why there's pushback against "Western Human Rights", because the West never care for human rights, they were just doing imperialism. But these liberals fully bought into the idea that they are the good ones. They see things like homosexuality being targeted and it makes them think they have to be the "saviors" after all. Yes it is very bad there's an increase in homophobia etc. but why is there increase and what can we do about it is the crucial questions.
They don't want to ask those questions. If you are someone who asks them you also get ostracized from those groups. My life would probably be a lot easier if I stopped thinking and said what I am supposed to say. There are incredibly few communities that are both socially liberating and stand up for things like trans rights, and are anti-imperialist. At least where I live.
Sorry I might have carried on for too long.
that makes me think that it isn't a proper coordinated astroturf and is instead a disparate group of self-reinforcing lib cranks who have glommed on to a pet cause despite all evidence that what they believe is bunk
I think I’ve seen some of those “hypothetical post-Balkanization” maps of China libs sometimes whip up that have kingdoms/states on them that haven’t existed for centuries and correspond to no modern political, cultural, or ethnic identity so, not far off.
this post got me noticing some weird behavior, from my lemmy.ml account i can't see any of the posts from quokk.au posters in this thread (can in other places), and from their perspective they can't see my post (deleted by their moderator), but can see and reply to davel
I also don't see anything in their modlog that would indicate a ban
or even that my post was removed
even weirder, viewing my account via quokka.au shows nothing, but does for davel I wonder if this is the admin blocking me?
aha! figured it out; account deleted for 'brigading'
This also results in the post I made complaining about misogyny from one of their mods getting entirely purged from their end.
I don't know if it's actually the same thing as banning someone or there is some other explanation, but deleting an account like this is really weird.
Also if it isn't, something about
on just completely purging an account, and the ""tankie"" lemmy instances not doing that.
Also well fucking done on the page being literally nothing but "not found", wow, quality software^(/s)^
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This type of thing only seems to be meant for spammers, it's effectively the same as being banned with remove all posts, which is an extreme response in my opinion.
I followed up with the admin on the db0 general matrix; they didn't respond to my dms otherwise.
I have a hard time believing it wasn't reported by the mod that I was calling out. This makes it hard to interpret it any other way than retaliation for calling them out for misogyny.
apparently posting things in hexbear/slop is grounds for a site purge, but an entire hate comm dedicated to other parts of the federation is fine.
for an 'anarchist queer friendly' server they seem extremely authoritarian and comfortable with misogyny
Yeah, but at least the remove option still lets your account exist. And instead it's made clear you have been banned.
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Congrats on being principled enough to get erased from their view, they haven't done that for me it seems. Probably because I tend to stick to Lemmy.ml on my .ml account, but still, impressive on your part
https://mander.xyz/post/42795397/23653225
I like when liberals don't even know the names of the places that make them screm+cri.
Explains, why China limited the export of germanium. All germanium oxide is being commited in uyghurs.
The article by the guy posing with the sword from sword art online has such questionable methodology. like a large number of the posts from the spike of activity at the end are just imported posts from Reddit due to the genzedong lifeboat, and the "analysis" was all from the Google API tool saying that bad words are being used.
and he gets paid for this!
Such a cringe sword. Of all the fictional swords to get a replica of, SAO shows you have worse taste than someone walking around with fuckin' Frostmourne or Zanpakutō or even the goddamn Keyblade
The SAO sword always looks like paper, even as a real metal sword still doesn't look like a sword.
Thanks for the list, was getting caught up in their BS.
I blocked that hotznplotzn guy a while back