God this guy is insufferable. Alec knows prison abolition and 'defund' movements inside and out. Lays out clear arguments and actual research on the subject. Then Stoller just says "I don't believe you" and "my vibes tell me I'm right".
Alec is super knowledgeable on this subject and it's great to him and Briahna expound on the subject and offer strategies for moving forward.
Hate listen if you'd like (it is actually informative), at your own peril
john_brown [comrade/them] - 2w
I'm like two minutes in and this dork keeps calling defund "an attack on the state" as if that's a criticism. Yes, I want to attack states that only represent the interests of the wealthy. Yes, I want to attack states that do genocide. Why does Briahna seem to like this ghoul?
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cricbuzz [he/him] - 2w
I know! Truly content. This guy truly seems like a wrecker disguising himself as being nominally on the left.
I've listened to his podcast with David Dayen, and he generally has an interesting focus on Monopoly's. But fuck, he's completely talking out of his ass
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john_brown [comrade/them] - 2w
I just had to turn it off after Alec talked about actual specific facts and Stoller's response was to handwave, intentionally misunderstand the criticism of policing as only serving the interests of the powerful, and act as though there's no further thought beyond what Alec had already said. I don't think this guy's a wrecker per se, he's just a liberal quite far up his own ass. Every point he's mad so far is just vibes based and he assumes the left position is also vibes based when it's quite clearly not.
Fuck I hate liberals
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Florn [they/them] - 2w
Between this and the male loneliness one with Ryan Grim, Briahna needs to stop with the little debates where one guest is obviously wrong and obstinate about it.
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LaughingLion [any, any] - 2w
i love liberals. they have no real principles and it shows
"trump is a fascist and using law enforcement organizations to strip basic human rights from the people in our country and yes, of course ill fund them fully to do this"
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P1d40n3 [he/him] - 2w
Holy shit. Tried to hate listen, made it 30 minutes.
Liberal? More like LIE-beral
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lemmyseizethemeans @lemmygrad.ml - 2w
Agree with every comment on this post. My goodness what idiocy Matt displayed. 'YOURE GASLIGHTING ME'. WTF bro. Strawman arguments, ad hominem, really terrible debate skills and absolute dogshit opinions on the actual police state.
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Keld [he/him, any] - 2w
Oh my god it still says "With virgil texas"
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cricbuzz [he/him] - 1w
i know! at least they finally changed the artwork so it wasn't both of them
cricbuzz in main
In which Matt Stoller shows his whole ass, and truly argues in "Bad Faith" during the entire podcast
https://badfaith.libsyn.com/episode-530-defund-the-police-w-alec-karakatsanis-matthew-stollerGod this guy is insufferable. Alec knows prison abolition and 'defund' movements inside and out. Lays out clear arguments and actual research on the subject. Then Stoller just says "I don't believe you" and "my vibes tell me I'm right".
Alec is super knowledgeable on this subject and it's great to him and Briahna expound on the subject and offer strategies for moving forward.
Hate listen if you'd like (it is actually informative), at your own peril
I'm like two minutes in and this dork keeps calling defund "an attack on the state" as if that's a criticism. Yes, I want to attack states that only represent the interests of the wealthy. Yes, I want to attack states that do genocide. Why does Briahna seem to like this ghoul?
I know! Truly
content. This guy truly seems like a wrecker disguising himself as being nominally on the left.
I've listened to his podcast with David Dayen, and he generally has an interesting focus on Monopoly's. But fuck, he's completely talking out of his ass
I just had to turn it off after Alec talked about actual specific facts and Stoller's response was to handwave, intentionally misunderstand the criticism of policing as only serving the interests of the powerful, and act as though there's no further thought beyond what Alec had already said. I don't think this guy's a wrecker per se, he's just a liberal quite far up his own ass. Every point he's mad so far is just vibes based and he assumes the left position is also vibes based when it's quite clearly not.
Fuck I hate liberals
Between this and the male loneliness one with Ryan Grim, Briahna needs to stop with the little debates where one guest is obviously wrong and obstinate about it.
i love liberals. they have no real principles and it shows
"trump is a fascist and using law enforcement organizations to strip basic human rights from the people in our country and yes, of course ill fund them fully to do this"
Holy shit. Tried to hate listen, made it 30 minutes.
Liberal? More like LIE-beral
Agree with every comment on this post. My goodness what idiocy Matt displayed. 'YOURE GASLIGHTING ME'. WTF bro. Strawman arguments, ad hominem, really terrible debate skills and absolute dogshit opinions on the actual police state.
Oh my god it still says "With virgil texas"
i know! at least they finally changed the artwork so it wasn't both of them