My favorite thing about space is how easy it is to get rid of excess heat
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Infamousblt [any] - 2w
It is pretty easy actually. What you do is water cool and then you squirt that hot water out into space where it's not a problem anymore .Fortunately it's also really easy to take an immense amount of water into space where it will be removed from the planet forever, and fortunately there's an infinite amount of water on Earth so there's no problem here at all.
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MLRL_Commie [comrade/them, he/him] - 2w
Squirt it back at Earth, easy. It'll cool off high in the atmosphere so then it won't even warm the earth and will not impact climate change
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bloubz @lemmygrad.ml - 2w
How does it work? There's (almost) no medium for conduction or convection, and I don't see how radiation is better in space
Edit: Oh maybe this was ironic? I'm confused
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BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them] - 2w
I was being sarcastic lol
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somename [she/her] - 2w
Capitalism is a meritocracy.
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context [fae/faer, fae/faer] - 2w
perhaps some of the users in this thread would be interested in my startup that will build submersible data centers deep under the sea
the ocean has effectively infinite heat capacity and the immense hydrostatic pressures greatly increase data compression ratios
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Blep [he/him] - 2w
You jest but seawater for cooling will probably end up one of the better ways to go about it. On a coast somewhere
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LeninWeave [none/use name, any] - 2w
The problem is it's incredibly corrosive.
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Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided] - 2w
there are schemes for using an interchange between seawater and a closed-loop of something more manageable but the seawater side still has to deal with all that so it's only a little easier
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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] - 2w
The same 80 year old technology used in motors on seagoing vessels will be used.
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Blep [he/him] - 2w
Yeah i didn't consider that. The undersea one actually looks better than i anticipated
anyway i don't think that's as deep as i was envisioning
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sisatici [he/him] - 2w
heat isn't even the biggest problem, radiation can damage the data. they replace laptops almost weekly at iss.
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UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her] - 2w
That's ok, the AI chatbots are wrong all the time anyways
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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ - 2w
Yeah, the article mentions that as one of the problems.
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OffSeasonPrincess [she/her] - 2w
This makes me feel like an "innovation" version of this
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fox [comrade/them] - 2w
Data centers in space is such a ludicrously, obviously terrible idea that the only people that would propose it came up with it on the fly and the only people that would buy it are tech investors that'll shovel money onto anyone confident enough
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9to5 [any, comrade/them] - 2w
Why dont we build datacenters in an volcano ?
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gramxi [they/them] - 2w
too much red tape
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EatPotatoes [none/use name] - 2w
Capitalism is so efficient that all the terrible ideas get some seed capital too.
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D61 [any] - 2w
If you thought trying to vent the heat through a liquid medium was a tough chore, wait until you try this out in space... where there ain't any liquid water to use.
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SoyViking [he/him] - 2w
Of course you think data centers in space is a great idea, you're 12.
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OptimusSubprime [he/him, they/them] - 2w
I'd pay to see the DC Techs they'd have to acquire to rack and stack that space datacenter. No way it goes up in one piece when that'll cost trillions of dollars.
It'll be like the evaluation and training scenes from Armageddon. Lol
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30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her] - 2w
If it gets my direct supervisor and quite frankly half of my team to puke their guts out on a centrifuge, I'm all for it just for that aspect alone
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PKMKII [none/use name] - 2w
The tech bros pushing this don’t actually think it’ll ever work. They’re seeing that the AI bubble is gonna pop and are trying to kick the can down the road with these outlandish plans as to keep the VC bozos pumping more money into the pit for a few more quarters.
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Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them] - 2w
It's like these people watch apocalyptic warning movies like Terminator and think it's something to try to achieve.
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Blakey [he/him] - 2w
I didn't even know anyone was suggesting this. What an abysmally stupid idea. I accept that I am a big old nerd and tend to know more about random sciency shit than average but while I knew that people think of space as cold (and why that doesn't mean what people think it does...) I didn't think anyone thought there was "abundant power" up there?! Good grief. Even if you lost 90% of solar power in heating the air, being able to capture the 10% (presumably at a similar level of efficiency to in space) would obviously be better than putting the solar panels in fucking orbit.
JFC.
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nasezero [comrade/them] - 2w
Hexbear: nooo you can't put data centers in space! You wouldn't be able to dissipate the heat effectively in space! Silly AI companies
yogthos in technology
Datacenters in space are a terrible, horrible, no good idea.
https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/My favorite thing about space is how easy it is to get rid of excess heat
It is pretty easy actually. What you do is water cool and then you squirt that hot water out into space where it's not a problem anymore .Fortunately it's also really easy to take an immense amount of water into space where it will be removed from the planet forever, and fortunately there's an infinite amount of water on Earth so there's no problem here at all.
Squirt it back at Earth, easy. It'll cool off high in the atmosphere so then it won't even warm the earth and will not impact climate change
How does it work? There's (almost) no medium for conduction or convection, and I don't see how radiation is better in space
Edit: Oh maybe this was ironic? I'm confused
I was being sarcastic lol
Capitalism is a meritocracy.
the ocean has effectively infinite heat capacity and the immense hydrostatic pressures greatly increase data compression ratios
You jest but seawater for cooling will probably end up one of the better ways to go about it. On a coast somewhere
The problem is it's incredibly corrosive.
there are schemes for using an interchange between seawater and a closed-loop of something more manageable but the seawater side still has to deal with all that so it's only a little easier
The same 80 year old technology used in motors on seagoing vessels will be used.
Yeah i didn't consider that. The undersea one actually looks better than i anticipated
Microsoft tried it successfully a while ago
a man chooses, an AI obeys
China did it
https://www.wired.com/story/china-dives-in-on-the-worlds-first-wind-powered-undersea-data-center/
yeah but at what cost?
anyway i don't think that's as deep as i was envisioning
heat isn't even the biggest problem, radiation can damage the data. they replace laptops almost weekly at iss.
That's ok, the AI chatbots are wrong all the time anyways
Yeah, the article mentions that as one of the problems.
This makes me feel like an "innovation" version of this
Data centers in space is such a ludicrously, obviously terrible idea that the only people that would propose it came up with it on the fly and the only people that would buy it are tech investors that'll shovel money onto anyone confident enough
Why dont we build datacenters in an volcano ?
too much red tape
Capitalism is so efficient that all the terrible ideas get some seed capital too.
If you thought trying to vent the heat through a liquid medium was a tough chore, wait until you try this out in space... where there ain't any liquid water to use.
Of course you think data centers in space is a great idea, you're 12.
I'd pay to see the DC Techs they'd have to acquire to rack and stack that space datacenter. No way it goes up in one piece when that'll cost trillions of dollars.
It'll be like the evaluation and training scenes from Armageddon. Lol
If it gets my direct supervisor and quite frankly half of my team to puke their guts out on a centrifuge, I'm all for it just for that aspect alone
The tech bros pushing this don’t actually think it’ll ever work. They’re seeing that the AI bubble is gonna pop and are trying to kick the can down the road with these outlandish plans as to keep the VC bozos pumping more money into the pit for a few more quarters.
It's like these people watch apocalyptic warning movies like Terminator and think it's something to try to achieve.
I didn't even know anyone was suggesting this. What an abysmally stupid idea. I accept that I am a big old nerd and tend to know more about random sciency shit than average but while I knew that people think of space as cold (and why that doesn't mean what people think it does...) I didn't think anyone thought there was "abundant power" up there?! Good grief. Even if you lost 90% of solar power in heating the air, being able to capture the 10% (presumably at a similar level of efficiency to in space) would obviously be better than putting the solar panels in fucking orbit.
JFC.
Hexbear: nooo you can't put data centers in space! You wouldn't be able to dissipate the heat effectively in space! Silly AI companies
China: we're already doing it
Rare Chinese L