it's 1559 and mesoamericans have finally discovered the space metal known as tin, and the proximity of the white man (easily vanquished in the first war of cracker aggression) has allowed the advance
My population was reduced by 75%, which I think was benefited by having hospitals in as many locations with over 120k population (the Yucatan is very dense) as possible. Which was like, seven. I could have maybe done more but you really need your cabinet developing the high pop provinces because they also need 20 development for a hospital
even then, hospitals in 90% of my high density locations only seemed to change it from 80-90% population loss to 75%. My first run I had like 5.3 million population, ended at 1.03 million, and in this run I had 1 million fewer to begin with and ended at 1.03ish as well
Perfidious Castile declared war, got spanked, refused to land even after The Great Deadening, so I white peaced and have focused on consolidating the Aztecs. The largest Aztec player, Tepanecapan, is my junior in a personal union. Pretty much everything that existed prior to colonization from the Yucatan to central mesoamerica is owned by a vassal (except for a tributary who I can't make into a vassal because they made that really hard for some reason)
so even severely weakened the high unity might be why Castile hasn't tried to fuck with me again despite having 110k levies to my Whole Situation's potential 29k
anyway GOT SOME TIN CAN'T WAIT TO BUILD A REAL BOAT!!
thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 3w
Fuck those White Devils up
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
I'm so far unmolested after Castile's initial war that ended in a white peace, it's been like 35 years, my population has gone back up about 500k, still really insufficient (but hey at least I have the buildings and infrastructure to sustain 5M+ lol)
i would say things were going great but those perfidious fuck-ass Spaniards just Market Bombed me, they colonized this tiny little island off the coast of Mexico I couldn't see and used it to create a market that cut my unified mesoamerican market in half. what the fuck yo
there's a loading screen quote with an iirc taino chief who's like "if there are spaniards in heaven I want to go to hell"
edit: pro tip having the biggest toughest aztec adjacent nation in a personal union has turned out really cool they force everyone around them to be their vassal so through them, everyone is my subordinate
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kleeon [he/him, he/him] - 3w
btw I think I need to warn you about the conquistador thing/bug. If you're not aware, Castile can spawn a conquistador army in any of their mesoamerican colonies by spending 50 ducats and 4000 manpower. It will then spawn a highly experienced 4000-men stack that will go on to conquer an area for them. What really sucks is several things:
They immediately annex any location they occupy and after annexing a handful of locations the new colony becomes a subject of Castile
You can't peace them out unless you stack wipe them
There is no cooldown. Castile can literally spam conquistadors as long as they have the resources. And they WILL spam them like crazy, believe me
In my Portugal game they just kept spamming conquistadors one after another against my colonies (which they also can do for some reason) until they ran out of manpower. I probably killed 50+ conquistador armies in my campaign. The funnies part is that we were in a defensive alliance so Castille had to constantly fight their own conquistadors lmao
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Biggay [he/him, comrade/them] - 3w
yeah none of the playtesters touched the western hemisphere, the release of this paradox title has to be the most broken and botched imo
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kleeon [he/him, he/him] - 3w
yeah I want to like this game so bad because it's core systems are absolutely incredible but there is just soooo much jank
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kleeon [he/him, he/him] - 3w
My hatred for Castile is still burning bright after my Portugal game. Please destroy them for me
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
posted in the right comm for once gobbless y'all
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Des [she/her, they/them] - 3w
cool that you found a way to reduce the disease losses.
i just want to get good at this game and do a haudenosaunee run and repulse the colonizers and do primitive communism
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Coolkidbozzy [he/him] - 3w
Congrats, Maya was my last game. But after the great pestilence I simply did not have enough levies to compete with castille's death stacks
You colonized significantly more than I did. My economy was mega-fucked from a lack of stone which caused a lack of lumber which caused a tool shortage and shut down most of the central american economies. Did you somehow sidestep the tool crisis to colonize better?
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
You have to turn off automated production methods and switch them to stone, turn off weaponsmiths (make a couple market villages to fill the need), and do whatever you can to expand stone production in your market
there's two provinces in Kowoj that can build stone mines, aside from that, because I don't know how to make trade work, I just expanded towards the neighboring 3 markets and destroyed them asap, then destroyed the aztec one once I could, so everything was a unified market (until Castile showed up and fucked it up by colonizing a fucking island right next to mexico that I didn't see but despite being a tiny fucking island has ripped half of Mesoamerica into it)
once I had a unified market stone wasn't a problem, I just kept building as many tool workshops as I could
You make a shitload of money so I just colonized aggressively. I realized too late that I could move towards Outwards which makes colonizing a lot faster. Colonizing the coast of Texas looks like it'll take forever but once you get that first location filled it speeds up to normal.
I simply did not have enough levies to compete with castille's death stacks
Yeah i'm having That Problem still despite doing all this fucking shit to try to deal with them. Part of the problem is my marriage union with the biggest Aztecs was going great until all of a sudden woops someone died (I've had multiple rulers die with no problem) and magically they were like yeah dude we're not in the union anymore. Despite it being almost fully integrated (I guess I fucked up not integrating them) so I had to waste some time dealing with that bullshit
but then as soon as I get all of Mesoamerica under my thumb again, Castile war decs, and it's always a fucking NO-CB (what the fuck is this shit?) or something where the war score is just Show Superiority and despite my army being bigger than what they send my dudes just suck and get their shit rocked. All I've managed to recruit professional army wise is 1000 footmen and 400 archers, and even after like 40 years my population is still just around 2 million
I have a save from a bit before they declared war so maybe I can figure it out but IDK. I had an alliance with Venice but they were like "nah we're not doing that" and broke it, fuckers.
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
also pro tip but I'm an idiot and I thought i needed Cities to build hospitals, you can build them in towns you just need 20 development. So if you want to try to mitigate the pestilence you need your advisors developing from 1337 on to get as many 20 dev provinces in the yucatan as you can
idk if it's really worth it though, I only managed to build 7 on my highest population locations and that just reduced the death from like 90% to 75%
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CliffordBigRedDog [he/him] - 3w
Overall tin is too fking rare i had to conquer up to finland to get my tin for some bronze cannons for my russian campaign, which is like cool in way i guess since i was forced to expand for resources which is "historically accurate" but i have trouble imagining that whole fking Ural mountains region doesnt have single source of tin
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Euergetes [none/use name] - 3w
i have trouble imagining that whole fking Ural mountains region doesnt have single source of tin
there actually isnt. tin is very rare in mineable quantities.
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ComradeSharkfucker - 3w
Hold on I can play RTS games fighting colonizers??? What game is this
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
it's eu5 but you're supposed to be a colonizer and things aren't going great
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ComradeSharkfucker - 3w
Lame, I dream of an independent native america
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BeanisBrain [he/him, they/them] - 3w
Using console commands to beat colonizers is not only permissible, it's based
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Moidialectica [he/him, comrade/them] - 3w
Iron is too little in Asia, forcing me to colonise Australia.
Somehow paradox managed to mess up tin distribution in south America
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 3w
iron, famously rare and not the most common heavy element
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replaceable [he/him] - 3w
Focusing on getting as many hospitals as possible is not a good idea, i believe diseases cause more losses in towns and cities than rural locations, so turning a location from rural to town even with a hospital will only increase the mortality
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RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him] - 2w
Funny thing is that in my Aztec game, Castile didn't even bother to show up. Aside from England and Portugal colonizing North and South America at a comfortable distance from Mexico, there was the Two Sicilies, the Papal States and god damn Bulgaria, and none of them really took an aggressive stance against me. Made the second half of the game's timeline a cakewalk, albeit with me still grasping how the economy works.
Yeah, as it stands, NW nations are very rough around the edges and obviously have been playtested last.
LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins in games
it's 1559 and mesoamericans have finally discovered the space metal known as tin, and the proximity of the white man (easily vanquished in the first war of cracker aggression) has allowed the advance
My population was reduced by 75%, which I think was benefited by having hospitals in as many locations with over 120k population (the Yucatan is very dense) as possible. Which was like, seven. I could have maybe done more but you really need your cabinet developing the high pop provinces because they also need 20 development for a hospital
even then, hospitals in 90% of my high density locations only seemed to change it from 80-90% population loss to 75%. My first run I had like 5.3 million population, ended at 1.03 million, and in this run I had 1 million fewer to begin with and ended at 1.03ish as well
Perfidious Castile declared war, got spanked, refused to land even after The Great Deadening, so I white peaced and have focused on consolidating the Aztecs. The largest Aztec player, Tepanecapan, is my junior in a personal union. Pretty much everything that existed prior to colonization from the Yucatan to central mesoamerica is owned by a vassal (except for a tributary who I can't make into a vassal because they made that really hard for some reason)
so even severely weakened the high unity might be why Castile hasn't tried to fuck with me again despite having 110k levies to my Whole Situation's potential 29k
anyway GOT SOME TIN CAN'T WAIT TO BUILD A REAL BOAT!!
Fuck those White Devils up
I'm so far unmolested after Castile's initial war that ended in a white peace, it's been like 35 years, my population has gone back up about 500k, still really insufficient (but hey at least I have the buildings and infrastructure to sustain 5M+ lol)
i would say things were going great but those perfidious fuck-ass Spaniards just Market Bombed me, they colonized this tiny little island off the coast of Mexico I couldn't see and used it to create a market that cut my unified mesoamerican market in half. what the fuck yo
there's a loading screen quote with an iirc taino chief who's like "if there are spaniards in heaven I want to go to hell"
edit: pro tip having the biggest toughest aztec adjacent nation in a personal union has turned out really cool they force everyone around them to be their vassal so through them, everyone is my subordinate
btw I think I need to warn you about the conquistador thing/bug. If you're not aware, Castile can spawn a conquistador army in any of their mesoamerican colonies by spending 50 ducats and 4000 manpower. It will then spawn a highly experienced 4000-men stack that will go on to conquer an area for them. What really sucks is several things:
In my Portugal game they just kept spamming conquistadors one after another against my colonies (which they also can do for some reason) until they ran out of manpower. I probably killed 50+ conquistador armies in my campaign. The funnies part is that we were in a defensive alliance so Castille had to constantly fight their own conquistadors lmao
yeah none of the playtesters touched the western hemisphere, the release of this paradox title has to be the most broken and botched imo
yeah I want to like this game so bad because it's core systems are absolutely incredible but there is just soooo much jank
My hatred for Castile is still burning bright after my Portugal game. Please destroy them for me
posted in the right comm for once gobbless y'all
cool that you found a way to reduce the disease losses.
i just want to get good at this game and do a haudenosaunee run and repulse the colonizers and do primitive communism
Congrats, Maya was my last game. But after the great pestilence I simply did not have enough levies to compete with castille's death stacks
You colonized significantly more than I did. My economy was mega-fucked from a lack of stone which caused a lack of lumber which caused a tool shortage and shut down most of the central american economies. Did you somehow sidestep the tool crisis to colonize better?
You have to turn off automated production methods and switch them to stone, turn off weaponsmiths (make a couple market villages to fill the need), and do whatever you can to expand stone production in your market
there's two provinces in Kowoj that can build stone mines, aside from that, because I don't know how to make trade work, I just expanded towards the neighboring 3 markets and destroyed them asap, then destroyed the aztec one once I could, so everything was a unified market (until Castile showed up and fucked it up by colonizing a fucking island right next to mexico that I didn't see but despite being a tiny fucking island has ripped half of Mesoamerica into it)
once I had a unified market stone wasn't a problem, I just kept building as many tool workshops as I could
You make a shitload of money so I just colonized aggressively. I realized too late that I could move towards Outwards which makes colonizing a lot faster. Colonizing the coast of Texas looks like it'll take forever but once you get that first location filled it speeds up to normal.
Yeah i'm having That Problem still despite doing all this fucking shit to try to deal with them. Part of the problem is my marriage union with the biggest Aztecs was going great until all of a sudden woops someone died (I've had multiple rulers die with no problem) and magically they were like yeah dude we're not in the union anymore. Despite it being almost fully integrated (I guess I fucked up not integrating them) so I had to waste some time dealing with that bullshit
but then as soon as I get all of Mesoamerica under my thumb again, Castile war decs, and it's always a fucking NO-CB (what the fuck is this shit?) or something where the war score is just Show Superiority and despite my army being bigger than what they send my dudes just suck and get their shit rocked. All I've managed to recruit professional army wise is 1000 footmen and 400 archers, and even after like 40 years my population is still just around 2 million
I have a save from a bit before they declared war so maybe I can figure it out but IDK. I had an alliance with Venice but they were like "nah we're not doing that" and broke it, fuckers.
also pro tip but I'm an idiot and I thought i needed Cities to build hospitals, you can build them in towns you just need 20 development. So if you want to try to mitigate the pestilence you need your advisors developing from 1337 on to get as many 20 dev provinces in the yucatan as you can
idk if it's really worth it though, I only managed to build 7 on my highest population locations and that just reduced the death from like 90% to 75%
Overall tin is too fking rare i had to conquer up to finland to get my tin for some bronze cannons for my russian campaign, which is like cool in way i guess since i was forced to expand for resources which is "historically accurate" but i have trouble imagining that whole fking Ural mountains region doesnt have single source of tin
there actually isnt. tin is very rare in mineable quantities.
Hold on I can play RTS games fighting colonizers??? What game is this
it's eu5 but you're supposed to be a colonizer and things aren't going great
Lame, I dream of an independent native america
Using console commands to beat colonizers is not only permissible, it's based
Iron is too little in Asia, forcing me to colonise Australia. Somehow paradox managed to mess up tin distribution in south America
iron, famously rare and not the most common heavy element
Focusing on getting as many hospitals as possible is not a good idea, i believe diseases cause more losses in towns and cities than rural locations, so turning a location from rural to town even with a hospital will only increase the mortality
Funny thing is that in my Aztec game, Castile didn't even bother to show up. Aside from England and Portugal colonizing North and South America at a comfortable distance from Mexico, there was the Two Sicilies, the Papal States and god damn Bulgaria, and none of them really took an aggressive stance against me. Made the second half of the game's timeline a cakewalk, albeit with me still grasping how the economy works.
Yeah, as it stands, NW nations are very rough around the edges and obviously have been playtested last.