The perfect demonrat ragebait post doesn't exist...
BluMAGA can't dig a deeper hole than the hell they're already in.
BodyBySisyphus [he/him] - 1mon
Evidently, among Democrats, the only thing that scores worse than "advocating for Palestine" is "advocating for Israel"
I guess the takeaway is "we don't want to hear about sad things for which our government is directly culpable"?
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sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
Oh, so the other sheet is for overall voters. I guess then republicans hate lgbtq people way more than socialists? Hence why lgbtq advocates score a lot lower than socialists on the main election.
But it's absolutely crazy to me that even amongst Democrats lgbtq advocates score negative, even 1 point lower than socialists!
The fact that socialism more popular than lgbtq rights is ... an interesting result.
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FunkyStuff [he/him] - 1mon
IMO the takeaway isn't that socialism is more popular than lgbtq rights, the takeaway is that more people are polarized against lgbtq rights than socialism.
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BodyBySisyphus [he/him] - 1mon
It might be an example of a Keynesian beauty contest in that the typical democratic voter saw all the chatter around Trump's anti-LGBTQ ads in the general and are assuming that candidates that go too hard toward inclusion stand less of a chance with the mythical moderates.
Or they might just not care.
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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1mon
I'm talking over here!
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SteamedHamberder [he/him] - 1mon
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Wheaties [she/her] - 1mon
"breaking up monopolies" still polls negative when you exclude the chuds? We're gonna have Disney and Google opening company towns and offering script before we have even a lukewarm Teddy Roosevelt type on the ballot, aren't we.
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AntiOutsideAktion [he/him] - 1mon
Sonic the Hedgehog announced in the next Marvel movie!
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Wheaties [she/her] - 1mon
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LeninWalksTheEarth [none/use name] - 1mon
is that maybe showing more of a split in the party? there are other polls that have shown Democrats are way more favorable towards Palestinian people(not so much the Palestinian or Isntreal governments though) link
I'm also slightly skeptical of this data. It's kinda hilarious the more i look. Forgive student loans? Democrats disapprove. Secure the border? Also disapprove. Giving me whiplash. Protecting abortion rights is 0 for democrats? Maybe i just dont understand how this survey works.
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Chana [none/use name] - 1mon
You can make a poll say anything based on who you decide to sample. I suspect they polled a lot of old people.
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BodyBySisyphus [he/him] - 1mon
I've read a couple blurbs about conjoint analysis and I am not yet totally clear on how it works, but the general idea is to provide different products (or in this case candidates) and ask respondents to rank them. So one might have compared a veteran former Obama staffer who wants to get rid of the tariffs vs a farmer that created private sector jobs who wants to make food more affordable (etc), and the scores come out of a bunch of rankings.
I speculated up thread that the poll respondents might be ranking the candidates more on what they believe the general public wants or who will most likely win an election regardless of personal preferences (which feels like a hazard in accurate interpretation and it depends on the exact question wording), or they might've just had a sample that skewed older (as Chana observed).
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SerialExperimentsGay [she/her, fae/faer] - 1mon
under the age of 50: +2
over the age of 50: +2
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happybadger [he/him] - 1mon
age 50: -25
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context [fae/faer, fae/faer] - 1mon
entities that exist outside of human concepts of time and aging poll very poorly with potential voters
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PolandIsAStateOfMind @lemmygrad.ml - 1mon
I guess it's why Cthulhu fails every presidental election
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PolandIsAStateOfMind @lemmygrad.ml - 1mon
Age 12: everyone
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RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
Also turn this into a table you can roll d6s on and you have a nice character background chart.
Im playing on hard mode, Billionaire Socialist Podcaster.
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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1mon
Virgil? Is that you?
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Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
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SchillMenaker [he/him] - 1mon
This is my 5-year plan. Looks like the Dems won't be happy about it.
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sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
fighter against the republican party: -5
What is this even based on? There is no fucking way that fighting against republicans and advocating for lgbtq rights would be seen as worse by Democrat voters than being a socialist.
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sodium_nitride [she/her, any] - 1mon
I refuse to believe that a party of liberals would rather tolerate a socialist over someone who is pro-lgbtq.
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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1mon
They probably think they're socialists
Also as the saying goes everyone is 12, and when they were twelve-years-old they were using homophobia as every-day insults and degrade their political opposition with homophobic insults.
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
The democrats are the most committed people in history in their quest to learn every wrong lesson and produce every worst take. It's truly remarkable the talent, skill, dedication and drive the democrats pour into that purpose, and the tremendous level of their success in doing so. Never in history has a group of people been so wrong
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Keld [he/him, any] - 1mon
An admin posting slop in main without saying main
Are we to be ruled by petty tyrants unconstrained by even the appearance of justice?
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hotcouchguy [he/him] - 1mon
Posting in main: -3
Posting in main without saying main: -4
Not posting in main: -6
Not posting: -7
Posting: -38
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oscardejarjayes [comrade/them] - 1mon
There's a moratorium on needing to say main, so we should all return to the old days where everyone posted everything on main.
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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any] - 1mon
Hey good idea
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
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Keld [he/him, any] - 1mon
No hexbearian will post free until the last admin is strangled banned with the entrails account of the last mod
Making child care more affordable... Who has a negative opinion of this? How?
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shallot [she/her] - 1mon
Private equity firms that own lots of childcare facilities
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SmithrunHills [he/him] - 1mon
JFC this gets worse the more I look at it
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ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them] - 1mon
served in thie Biden administration (-6)
They hate being reminded that none of this shit works
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woodenghost [comrade/them] - 1mon
Okay, so being a union member is good(+1), but organizing union strikes is bad(-2)!? So what are unions supposed to do then? Just keeping up appearances of opposition to pacify dissent while actually maintaining the status quo?
Democrat candidate
Ohhhh, that makes sense then, carry on I guess.
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Civility [none/use name] - 1mon
π₯°
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deforestgump [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
Oh we're doing eugenics again?
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JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them] - 1mon
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thelastaxolotl [he/him] - 1mon
advocating for israel - 14
advocating for palestine - 21
So what? The perfect dem candidate is a cruzader larper? A Neo-Ottomanism?
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buckykat [none/use name] - 1mon
The perfect dem candidate is
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βοΈ- - 1mon
literally pandering to fascists lol
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Moidialectica [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
What the fuck is this?
How does it work?
Are we meant to get points from the plus and use it on the minus?
Does this mean serving with biden is good?
You can simultaneously advocate for Israel and Palestine and it's good? Or is it more neutral just to have more options?
A bit of text to set the rules would do well...
Alaskaball in main
The perfect demonrat ragebait post doesn't exist...
Evidently, among Democrats, the only thing that scores worse than "advocating for Palestine" is "advocating for Israel"
I guess the takeaway is "we don't want to hear about sad things for which our government is directly culpable"?
Oh, so the other sheet is for overall voters. I guess then republicans hate lgbtq people way more than socialists? Hence why lgbtq advocates score a lot lower than socialists on the main election.
But it's absolutely crazy to me that even amongst Democrats lgbtq advocates score negative, even 1 point lower than socialists!
The fact that socialism more popular than lgbtq rights is ... an interesting result.
IMO the takeaway isn't that socialism is more popular than lgbtq rights, the takeaway is that more people are polarized against lgbtq rights than socialism.
It might be an example of a Keynesian beauty contest in that the typical democratic voter saw all the chatter around Trump's anti-LGBTQ ads in the general and are assuming that candidates that go too hard toward inclusion stand less of a chance with the mythical moderates.
Or they might just not care.
"breaking up monopolies" still polls negative when you exclude the chuds? We're gonna have Disney and Google opening company towns and offering script before we have even a lukewarm Teddy Roosevelt type on the ballot, aren't we.
is that maybe showing more of a split in the party? there are other polls that have shown Democrats are way more favorable towards Palestinian people(not so much the Palestinian or Isntreal governments though) link
I'm also slightly skeptical of this data. It's kinda hilarious the more i look. Forgive student loans? Democrats disapprove. Secure the border? Also disapprove. Giving me whiplash. Protecting abortion rights is 0 for democrats? Maybe i just dont understand how this survey works.
You can make a poll say anything based on who you decide to sample. I suspect they polled a lot of old people.
I've read a couple blurbs about conjoint analysis and I am not yet totally clear on how it works, but the general idea is to provide different products (or in this case candidates) and ask respondents to rank them. So one might have compared a veteran former Obama staffer who wants to get rid of the tariffs vs a farmer that created private sector jobs who wants to make food more affordable (etc), and the scores come out of a bunch of rankings.
I speculated up thread that the poll respondents might be ranking the candidates more on what they believe the general public wants or who will most likely win an election regardless of personal preferences (which feels like a hazard in accurate interpretation and it depends on the exact question wording), or they might've just had a sample that skewed older (as Chana observed).
entities that exist outside of human concepts of time and aging poll very poorly with potential voters
I guess it's why Cthulhu fails every presidental election
Age 12: everyone
Also turn this into a table you can roll d6s on and you have a nice character background chart.
Im playing on hard mode, Billionaire Socialist Podcaster.
Virgil? Is that you?
This is my 5-year plan. Looks like the Dems won't be happy about it.
What is this even based on? There is no fucking way that fighting against republicans and advocating for lgbtq rights would be seen as worse by Democrat voters than being a socialist.
I refuse to believe that a party of liberals would rather tolerate a socialist over someone who is pro-lgbtq.
They probably think they're socialists
Also as the saying goes everyone is 12, and when they were twelve-years-old they were using homophobia as every-day insults and degrade their political opposition with homophobic insults.
The democrats are the most committed people in history in their quest to learn every wrong lesson and produce every worst take. It's truly remarkable the talent, skill, dedication and drive the democrats pour into that purpose, and the tremendous level of their success in doing so. Never in history has a group of people been so wrong
Are we to be ruled by petty tyrants unconstrained by even the appearance of justice?
Posting in main: -3
Posting in main without saying main: -4
Not posting in main: -6
Not posting: -7
Posting: -38
There's a moratorium on needing to say main, so we should all return to the old days where everyone posted everything on main.
Hey good idea
No hexbearian will post free until the last admin is
strangledbanned with theentrailsaccount of the last modLol so mamdani has what, -30 points out the gate?
Mamdani is what? Edit: Also remember it's from the POV of a Democrat (voter).
β ππ©πͺπ΄ πΆπ΄π¦π³ πͺπ΄ π΄πΆπ΄π±π¦π€π΅π¦π₯ π°π§ π£π¦πͺπ―π¨ π’ π€π’π΅. πππ¦π’π΄π¦ π³π¦π±π°π³π΅ π’π―πΊ π΄πΆπ΄π±πͺπ€πͺπ°πΆπ΄ π£π¦π©π’π·πͺπ°π³.
There's another -17 for protecting LGBTQ rights lmao
wait til you get to the issue focus section
Ah you just tempted that cat to make a full spreadsheet
::: spoiler Alaskaball spreadsheet
Do tell me if I missed something. Also not too bad, you might have a shot.
β ππ©πͺπ΄ πΆπ΄π¦π³ πͺπ΄ π΄πΆπ΄π±π¦π€π΅π¦π₯ π°π§ π£π¦πͺπ―π¨ π’ π€π’π΅. πππ¦π’π΄π¦ π³π¦π±π°π³π΅ π’π―πΊ π΄πΆπ΄π±πͺπ€πͺπ°πΆπ΄ π£π¦π©π’π·πͺπ°π³.
I haven't kept an eye on him so I'm not certain which things actually fit.
β ππ©πͺπ΄ πΆπ΄π¦π³ πͺπ΄ π΄πΆπ΄π±π¦π€π΅π¦π₯ π°π§ π£π¦πͺπ―π¨ π’ π€π’π΅. πππ¦π’π΄π¦ π³π¦π±π°π³π΅ π’π―πΊ π΄πΆπ΄π±πͺπ€πͺπ°πΆπ΄ π£π¦π©π’π·πͺπ°π³.
Making child care more affordable... Who has a negative opinion of this? How?
Private equity firms that own lots of childcare facilities
JFC this gets worse the more I look at it
They hate being reminded that none of this shit works
Okay, so being a union member is good(+1), but organizing union strikes is bad(-2)!? So what are unions supposed to do then? Just keeping up appearances of opposition to pacify dissent while actually maintaining the status quo?
Ohhhh, that makes sense then, carry on I guess.
π₯°
Oh we're doing eugenics again?
So what? The perfect dem candidate is a cruzader larper? A Neo-Ottomanism?
The perfect dem candidate is
literally pandering to fascists lol
What the fuck is this? How does it work? Are we meant to get points from the plus and use it on the minus? Does this mean serving with biden is good? You can simultaneously advocate for Israel and Palestine and it's good? Or is it more neutral just to have more options? A bit of text to set the rules would do well...