The coolest folks in DSA are the anti-imperialists and they piss off all the liberals within and outside of DSA by saying things like, "we should cut ties with the genocide factory" or, "we should not publicly attack other socialist protects targeted by our country's imperialism".
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PKMKII [none/use name] - 1mon
Some of these would probably get shot down in court as being outside of the mayor’s scope, but otherwise reasonable treatment of a genocidal state and its enablers. Also LOL at the one bulletin calling them the IOF.
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barrbaric [he/him] - 1mon
Mamdani could imitate Trump by using "but who's going to stop me?" (IE, doing it anyway and then backpedalling when the courts determine it was illegal 10 years later) doctrine, which would also have a chilling effect on pro-Israel groups. This would run into the issue that NYC doesn't have infinite money for fighting legal cases like the federal government does though.
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ProletarianDictator [none/use name] - 1mon
Also the feds would stop him.
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GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's] - 1mon
Palestine Policy Meeting
It's all about Israel
...yea. Good reading comprehension Jerry
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came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
any of the first 3 would be huge and probably induce total panic from the entity's colony-metropole kickback mechanisms.
israel's economy is a complete fabrication and floats entirely on atlanticist credit schemes of which many financial institutions of NYC play a part.
fucking with that alone could be a tipping point for exposing how fragile the whole project is.
like suddenly instead of dozens of old, serious institutions with white shoe lawyers underwriting government back loans to israeli projects, it's all happening through like 1 "bank" in Dade county with an address that leads to a burned down construction trailer. and it shares the same name as a bank which financed drug running for noriega and terror bombing in cuba and has a guy who died in a helicopter crash in Korea in 1959 listed as the principal agent lmao.
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Carl [he/him] - 1mon
I mean it's the "anti war working group" so they aren't exactly the "free public transit" people (although I'm sure there's overlap)
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CoolerOpposide [she/her] - 1mon
most trains do not engage in warfare in my experience
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SoyViking [he/him] - 1mon
"Trains, Not Tanks" is not the worst slogan in the world
It's the anti war Palestine working group??? What did he think it was gonna say like yup keep on doing war???? Is he stupid???
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ChaosMaterialist [he/him, they/them] - 1mon
:porky-scared-flipped: :sicko-hexbear-woke:
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
Jfc there is a NYC-Israel economic council? How many other countries does NYC directly partner with
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peeonyou [he/him] - 1mon
This is good.
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sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any] - 1mon
Yeah, most people would really hate to see Netanyahu get arrested in NYC. This would certainly make Mamdani an internationally hated figure. /sarcasm
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Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
This is bad!
(shows a list of a bunch of really good things)
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NuraShiny [any] - 1mon
Who is that Fred from Scooby Doo looking guy?
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
Where's all the people who read a headline like "Mamdani inherits NYPD surveillance state" and respond with SEE HE'S JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM now
Granted nothing has fucking happened yet but still, that doesn't stop the comments when MAMDANI BAD
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LeninWeave [none/use name, any] - 1mon
Where's all the people who read a headline like "Mamdani inherits NYPD surveillance state" and respond with SEE HE'S JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM now
This is an internal document discussing the demands of one working group of the DSA (not the whole org). It doesn't have anything to do with Mamadani other than him being the person who might eventually receive those demands.
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
It doesn't have anything to do with Mamadani
He's the mayor and part of the DSA so I'd say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
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PowerLurker [they/them] - 1mon
with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
arguing with someone who doesn't exist, my friend. nobody's saying anything close to literal Hitler. this is a majority ML site with a lot of global south users, while some discussions about this get a little too needlessly hostile skepticism about the electoralist darling of the day should be expected here
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
skepticism about the electoralist darling of the day should be expected here
That's the level of "skepticism" (cynicism) ive seen so far
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PowerLurker [they/them] - 1mon
alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i've posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself ) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they've been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they're from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran's through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called "the graveyard of social movements." my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i'm addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don't tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
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MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them] - 1mon
I've learned to brush it off and stay positive. I'm skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞
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LeninWeave [none/use name, any] - 1mon
I'd say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat
In this scenario Mamdani is at least personally involved in the events being discussed.
The image in this post isn't anything from Mamdani. It's about something that some people are planning on asking Mamdani to do. They're good things to ask him to do, but until he's actually asked and he actually does them they're just wishes.
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LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name] - 1mon
Yeah but the same could be said for literally any number of things that had people shidding and farding over how he's AOC again, people were declaring all kinds a shit already and he's still not even in office
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LeninWeave [none/use name, any] - 1mon
People were mainly talking about things he said and did. And no one was calling him Hitler. We'll see soon how well he does.
Yuritopiaposadism in politics
I can't see a single thing that's bad.
The coolest folks in DSA are the anti-imperialists and they piss off all the liberals within and outside of DSA by saying things like, "we should cut ties with the genocide factory" or, "we should not publicly attack other socialist protects targeted by our country's imperialism".
Some of these would probably get shot down in court as being outside of the mayor’s scope, but otherwise reasonable treatment of a genocidal state and its enablers. Also LOL at the one bulletin calling them the IOF.
Mamdani could imitate Trump by using "but who's going to stop me?" (IE, doing it anyway and then backpedalling when the courts determine it was illegal 10 years later) doctrine, which would also have a chilling effect on pro-Israel groups. This would run into the issue that NYC doesn't have infinite money for fighting legal cases like the federal government does though.
Also the feds would stop him.
...yea. Good reading comprehension Jerry
any of the first 3 would be huge and probably induce total panic from the entity's colony-metropole kickback mechanisms.
israel's economy is a complete fabrication and floats entirely on atlanticist credit schemes of which many financial institutions of NYC play a part.
fucking with that alone could be a tipping point for exposing how fragile the whole project is.
like suddenly instead of dozens of old, serious institutions with white shoe lawyers underwriting government back loans to israeli projects, it's all happening through like 1 "bank" in Dade county with an address that leads to a burned down construction trailer. and it shares the same name as a bank which financed drug running for noriega and terror bombing in cuba and has a guy who died in a helicopter crash in Korea in 1959 listed as the principal agent lmao.
I mean it's the "anti war working group" so they aren't exactly the "free public transit" people (although I'm sure there's overlap)
most trains do not engage in warfare in my experience
"Trains, Not Tanks" is not the worst slogan in the world
I wouldn't be too sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOTBU5QJJWM
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It's the anti war Palestine working group??? What did he think it was gonna say like yup keep on doing war???? Is he stupid???
:porky-scared-flipped: :sicko-hexbear-woke:
Jfc there is a NYC-Israel economic council? How many other countries does NYC directly partner with
This is good.
Yeah, most people would really hate to see Netanyahu get arrested in NYC. This would certainly make Mamdani an internationally hated figure. /sarcasm
This is bad! (shows a list of a bunch of really good things)
Who is that Fred from Scooby Doo looking guy?
Where's all the people who read a headline like "Mamdani inherits NYPD surveillance state" and respond with SEE HE'S JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM now
Granted nothing has fucking happened yet but still, that doesn't stop the comments when MAMDANI BAD
This is an internal document discussing the demands of one working group of the DSA (not the whole org). It doesn't have anything to do with Mamadani other than him being the person who might eventually receive those demands.
He's the mayor and part of the DSA so I'd say it has at least as much to do with him as him meeting with some shithead Democrat and being asserted as being literally Hitler for it
arguing with someone who doesn't exist, my friend. nobody's saying anything close to literal Hitler. this is a majority ML site with a lot of global south users, while some discussions about this get a little too needlessly hostile skepticism about the electoralist darling of the day should be expected here
That's the level of "skepticism" (cynicism) ive seen so far
alright lemme preface this by saying: i think his win is a net good for the US left & working class! i've posted my own (pristine, if i may say so myself
) analysis on this twice elsewhere on the site. the short version is it creates an opening to energize people toward doing more irl organizing shit. that said:
communists on this site are cynical about the Democrats because either A) they've been through this twice with Bernie, been through this with AOC, even been through it with Obama (though he never claimed to be socialist) etc., and have learned lessons about strategy and tactics from these experiences that are backed by history and theory which foreclose Democratic entryism as useful, or B) they're from countries the capitalist class in the US have immiserated, with the Democratic party serving as a key tool of this immiseration. and you see a large subset of users on hexbear trying to convince others that the most meaningful way forward from this is to elect more Zohran's through a bourgeois party that has (accurately) been called "the graveyard of social movements." my investment in posting about this shit is 1) that posting feels good on a hedonistic level and i'm addicted to it but also 2) that i want any hexbears who end up doing shit irl to avoid this dead end entryist trap.
i mean some of our more grass touching users have even posted about non-electoral shit that people can get involved in recently and they don't tend to get much engagement vs Zohran stuff. i think that shows something about the thinking of this (niche, ultimately low-impact) forum.
I've learned to brush it off and stay positive. I'm skeptical as well but hopefully that this time will be different. NYC DSA has real numbers behind them so 🤞
In this scenario Mamdani is at least personally involved in the events being discussed.
The image in this post isn't anything from Mamdani. It's about something that some people are planning on asking Mamdani to do. They're good things to ask him to do, but until he's actually asked and he actually does them they're just wishes.
Yeah but the same could be said for literally any number of things that had people shidding and farding over how he's AOC again, people were declaring all kinds a shit already and he's still not even in office
People were mainly talking about things he said and did. And no one was calling him Hitler. We'll see soon how well he does.
Waow