It has been two years since the mass murder on 7 October 2023, an event that shook world Jewry more than any event since the creation of the state of Israel.
I think it's significant that even an article still framing October 7th like this is acknowledging that attitudes on Zionism have shifted
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THEPH0NECOMPANY [he/him, comrade/them] - 2mon
The Jewish clubs on my campus used to be incredibly and openly pro Israel, but this year there wasn't a single Israeli flag at the involvement center where all the clubs meet up and advertise.
There has definitely been a massive shift somewhere, although I'm not sure how exactly. With how Zionist some of these clubs have been Inexpect they are just reading the room better, but I do hope they get couped or replaced by antizionist orgs.
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mickey [he/him] - 2mon
It feels like they'll have to change from the baseline of being staunchly pro-Israel as an expectation for group membership, or wind up with only members who are full MIGA. Young Jews get aggressively frozen out of their own cultural orgs over their refusal to embrace Zionism, and now for the first time in USA you have a majority of normies understanding what Zionism is and rejecting it meaning that Jewish groups don't get a free pass as Israeli nationalist fronts anymore. A lot of people have written about how the conflation of Zionism with Judaism hurts Jewish people broadly and this is intentional or useful to the Zionists.
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miz [any, any] - 2mon
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ThermonuclearEgg - 2mon
"Hannibal Lecter is a Zionist?" — the article writer, probably
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fannin [he/him, he/him] - 2mon
I wonder if this is actually true. Polling up till now indicated Israeli Jews were rabidly, genocidally zionist, and the diaspora mostly wanted a two state solution which is also genocidal and zionist. It would be significant if this attitude has changed.
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ThermonuclearEgg - 2mon
the diaspora mostly wanted a two state solution which is also genocidal and zionist
It would be. Where I am, this might actually be an improvement over the levels of Zionism at my campus Hillel
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SteamedHamberder [he/him] - 2mon
Off the top of my head, events since 1948 which have had a larger effect on world Jewry:
Breakup of the USSR and resulting migration patterns
Trial and Execution of the Rosenbergs
Women’s rights movement leading to development of gender-inclusive clergy and liturgy.
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ThermonuclearEgg - 2mon
Agreed, I think they were going for the angle of "10/7 is like the biggest attack since the Holocaust" thing they like to do but didn't get it right
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алсааас [she/they] - 2mon
AMONG US JEWS
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LeZero [he/him] - 2mon
So that guy in New York was venting ?
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fannin [he/him, he/him] - 2mon
Genocide denial in the article. Try half a million casualties, not tens of thousands.
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Awoo [she/her] - 2mon
What do the numbers actually say? How many american jews are now anti-zionist? How many are skeptical of zionism?
If the zionists determine that there is a sincere split then they will begin to intentionally increase antisemitic behaviour. Not just the jewish zionists, but all the other zionists as well.
They will see the scenario as jews deciding "Am I safer where I am or am I safer in Israel?", with the last 2 years making them feel like Israel is less safe than the rest of the world for jews.
The solution to that? Make the world less safe for jews.
The left will need to meet that with a socialist argument for how this cycle is being created or they will turn back to zionism.
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fannin [he/him, he/him] - 2mon
This but we also need to shout from the rooftops that the two state solution is still genocidal zionism, just maybe half as bas
DivineChaos100 in politics
The Zionist Consensus Among US Jews Has Collapsed.
https://portside.org/2025-10-18/zionist-consensus-among-us-jews-has-collapsedI think it's significant that even an article still framing October 7th like this is acknowledging that attitudes on Zionism have shifted
The Jewish clubs on my campus used to be incredibly and openly pro Israel, but this year there wasn't a single Israeli flag at the involvement center where all the clubs meet up and advertise.
There has definitely been a massive shift somewhere, although I'm not sure how exactly. With how Zionist some of these clubs have been Inexpect they are just reading the room better, but I do hope they get couped or replaced by antizionist orgs.
It feels like they'll have to change from the baseline of being staunchly pro-Israel as an expectation for group membership, or wind up with only members who are full MIGA. Young Jews get aggressively frozen out of their own cultural orgs over their refusal to embrace Zionism, and now for the first time in USA you have a majority of normies understanding what Zionism is and rejecting it meaning that Jewish groups don't get a free pass as Israeli nationalist fronts anymore. A lot of people have written about how the conflation of Zionism with Judaism hurts Jewish people broadly and this is intentional or useful to the Zionists.
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"Hannibal Lecter is a Zionist?" — the article writer, probably
I wonder if this is actually true. Polling up till now indicated Israeli Jews were rabidly, genocidally zionist, and the diaspora mostly wanted a two state solution which is also genocidal and zionist. It would be significant if this attitude has changed.
It would be. Where I am, this might actually be an improvement over the levels of Zionism at my campus Hillel
Off the top of my head, events since 1948 which have had a larger effect on world Jewry:
Agreed, I think they were going for the angle of "10/7 is like the biggest attack since the Holocaust" thing they like to do but didn't get it right
So that guy in New York was venting ?
Genocide denial in the article. Try half a million casualties, not tens of thousands.
What do the numbers actually say? How many american jews are now anti-zionist? How many are skeptical of zionism?
If the zionists determine that there is a sincere split then they will begin to intentionally increase antisemitic behaviour. Not just the jewish zionists, but all the other zionists as well.
They will see the scenario as jews deciding "Am I safer where I am or am I safer in Israel?", with the last 2 years making them feel like Israel is less safe than the rest of the world for jews.
The solution to that? Make the world less safe for jews.
The left will need to meet that with a socialist argument for how this cycle is being created or they will turn back to zionism.
This but we also need to shout from the rooftops that the two state solution is still genocidal zionism, just maybe half as bas