Yeah it’s always off putting when they bring up black leaders and compare themselves to them

How is this even a thing? I feel like it's just psychological warfare.

Pretty sure they've never heard Malcolm talk about Israel tho

Sigh Co-optation, or as the Fr*ncais say call it, recuperation

Or if we can say another thing

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

Apparently the man who thinks the civil rights act was a mistake, cheering ICE, supports israel apartheid...... is an advocate for freedom

He was killed by a white man while using a tired old dogwhistle of "gang violence" to imply black on black violence. Its extremely ironic and extremely funny and they can go kick rocks if they don't like that.

And they're still peddling the "drug overdose counterfeiter" angle, despite everything we know about Chauvin owing Floyd money and them knowing each other beforehand.

"Never believe the antisemites are unaware of the absurdity of their claims" etc.

When you're right you're right

Fuck it not letting some dried up stains from letting me enjoy the park I'm back and vibing

whenever a leftist ik admits they used or use tumblr/4chan/reddit regularly or used to identify with it I keep my eyes on them like they're going to turn into a horse or something

especially "leftists" spaces or boards there because they didn't have a "everything I believe in is wrong I have to rebuild what I know" self critic moment, people who held obvious reactionary beliefs such transphobia or racism then decide one day to become a communist have to either wipe out everything they believe in or exist in nazbol communities, because the moment you start talking some "tradwives" and "all lives matter" bullshit you're getting banned anywhere remotely on the left. They still carry the nonsense they held back then you just won't notice it because it isn't obvious or isn't in the topic, you talk to them for a while and they seem fine then boom they start having nostalgia about the Hamilton Musical and Obama, or if they're a redditor they start talking about Muslims, or if they were a /tttt/ or /leftypol/ user they use abbreviations and slurs no one knows.

it's like proclaiming that you don't eat people

The libs don't read 😞

something that happened 400 years ago and is part of the past

Poc are getting the brunt of the fascism in America, not white people. This is just white centricism

The only way I have been able to make sense of white people's double standards when it comes to atrocities our governments commit domestically vs abroad is to conclude that the very root of their problem is many of them are fundamentally incapable of seeing nonwhite people as human beings.

::: spoiler text referencing graphic imagery, war crimes Normal person when watching videos of people crying over the corpses of their family who was just murdered by a bomb because America decided to do foreignpolicy: I feel this pain like that were my aunt, and I hate the murderers on their behalf with the intensity I would hate someone who murdered my own family member.

White person watching videos of people crying over their murdered family members' corpses: Ok we gotta plug this into a flow chart to decide whether we have empathy or not. What color are the victims? What religion are the victims? Who killed them? What color and religion are the people who killed them? Which political party is currently in charge and tentatively culpable? Can we come up with an excuse for why this was just an unfortunate accident and keep doing what we're doing? :::

I can say this confidently because I have so frequently seen white people glazing politicians with the blood of millions on their hands. If they actually cared about other people, they would feel the hatred I feel anytime I see a "wholesome" picture of a smiling Bush, or a "wholesome" meme about who charming and folksy and unthreatening Biden is. If they actually cared, they would view this glazing as as distasteful and morally repugnant as if someone were sharing memes about how wholesome Hitler and Goebbels were.

Well if you are talking about outside America, most “nerd culture” is produced either in the USA or Japan. Generic Fantasy settings are based on idealized versions of Europe, and have a lot of problematic tropes associated. If someone’s only cultural input is this homogenized whitewashed crap then they will start reflecting that outwardly in their worldview. Marvel movies have an ideology. Video Games often have an ideology. “Apolitical” nerds who consume uncritically will have those ideologies

As a "quirky/nerdy/weird" Black person (as I've been called), I ain't even got a problem with you saying this because, in my experience, I've noticed this pattern, too.

what happened that gave you such an impression?

It could also be due to the fact that a lot of fandom's/fan communities are dominated by white people so nerdy poc appease the white leaders of these communities by not speaking out against injustice.

I see this with my cs degree now where the POC in my classes either inherit the opinions of the white professors or dont speak up at all. The amount of anti China hatred in western cs classes is wild and some of it comes from the Chinese diaspora who will protect white ppls feelings.

whats she saying about him? he’s too hot so he must have been the devil?

The legislation does concern me, yes, but the white complaints about it? I don't care what they have to say because I can't get over how common it is for white people to only care about injustice insofar as it goes after them personally.

I hear what you're saying. I think I reached this point in like, Spring of 2024 at the latest. And it was entirely because of that dynamic. Watching white and even so-called "radicals" rush to ignore genocide because they actually don't consider brown people human (again! They did this with Afghanistan and Iraq too, but this was so much worse!), well, that I should have expected. But to then in the very same breath act terrified that Trump was going to win and be a fascist just seemed selfish. Like ok white people, if you don't care about people being murdered in an open air concentration camp then don't suddenly expect people to care that you (and the rest of us) are going to get some more persecution at home. Be fucking consistent.

I mean, I was also basically frustrated with this dynamic: All of a sudden for the first time in their lives, many of these white people around me were grappling with fear that they were going to be directly persecuted by the government. I mean "they're going to put us in camps!" fear. That's something that the rest of us had to learn how to cope with as children. Grow the fuck up, white people. Or don't, but don't expect me to humor your childishness.

And I was so frustrated because I'd been trying to educate white people about the fascist threat for over a decade at that point, by pointing out the many ways the US government murders people abroad and persecutes immigrants domestically and was already putting immigrants in camps and cages and had been jailing black people to use for prison labor longer than I'd been alive, but most of my pleas for people to care about other people had fallen on [ableist language I won't say actually, because that ableistly ascribes to disability what is better ascribed to whiteness. My words fell on white ears]. I'd been called "psychotic" even for saying that this white american nativist movement was evil, was going to kill people, and needed to be treated as such. But now all of a sudden wouldn't you know it, Trump is fascist! The fascist threat suddenly looms out of nowhere! So we have to have to have to support Democrats to protect us from Trump! And if I pointed out that the Democrats were actively committing a holocaust right in front of our eyes, it was drowned out by "but the genocide will continue no matter who's in power! We're in danger! Save us!" I looked around. Was I alone in thinking this. I could be the odd one out and still be right, but if it was only me I should consider that maybe I was just wrong. But then other trans immigrant influencers I followed started saying it too: "Don't use our queerness to excuse genocide. Fuck Trump, but fuck Biden and Harris and the Democratic Party as a whole too." So no, it was (mostly) whiteness.

It sent a clear message: Oh, they have no solidarity. They don't actually care about fascism. They don't actually care about systemic violence being done to people. They just care about themselves. All those years when I had solidarity with oppressed white people meant nothing to them, because they just wanted to take but never give. And I stopped being able to care or respond in emotionally supportive ways. Friends would confide in me "I'm really scared, what if they try to round us up?" and all I could say was "welcome to the club, how do you think they treated Muslims here? But even then, most people didn't get caught up in the dragnet so you're probably going to be fine and shouldn't worry so much, it's needlesly stressing you. Here's what helped me cope and not stress so much, maybe it'll help you: "If they come for me, I won't die alone, but til then I'm not going to torment myself worrying about a day that may never come." I was trying to share my hard-won wisdom and help people not have to reinvent the wheel. But these ingrates didn't appreciate it.

It reminds me of what I find so funny about HP Lovecraft's writing, actually: the white supremacist attachment to being at the top and suddenly finding out they're not. For Lovecraft's characters, it was because there were older and more ancient powerful civilizations that predated Mankind. For Lovecraft himself, it was similar, except he was losing his shit about nonwhite cultures. For these people, it's finding out that their whiteness will not protect them from other white people.

idk, it's probably not the best thing for solidarity-building to vent those feelings but this is an EMPOC only space. And on the other hand, I'd really like to see white people who are relatively new to being systemically oppressed to this extent account for their position and maybe with a bit of humility say "I'm freaking the fuck out about possibly being on a government kill list, can those of you who've already had to grapple with this help me cope?" instead of "so y'all need to listen to me when I tell you that the best way to protect me is to throw your comrades under the bus".

And stupid fucks act like we're supposed to be grateful about it. Like the God's themselves have smiled down in favor upon us Considering precisely how much fetishism goes around and is rooted in serious fucked up history how in this capitalist society everything including relationships is commodified as transactional this just grosses me out and is a big red flag. And it further dehumanizes the people into thinking the only thing the subject of ridicule values is to be a commodity so as to find this bullshit flattering.

::: spoiler fetishism too I couldn't find the specific tweet, but it was some girl saying something like "'y'all I am persian and [fetishism of black people] every week, but the mullahs have to go", like she thought it was a progressive thing to say :::

Wow that is heinous.

That sucks, homhom9000 .

I have a feeling that telling them that about Freddie would put them under pressure.

This is why there's no crime that's too old to remember, there's not "it was so long ago you have to move on", because when they [the colonizers] step on you, they won't rest until you apologize for hurting their foot, they won't rest until they stomp you out.

::: spoiler song by red bone that was banned by radio stations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-exUl-TnQ0 :::

Well, that's better than I expected so far.

God-willing

LESSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i hope it goes good

I've always told people that I could never move to my parents country because I just don't fit in. The few times I've visited I'm sure I stick out like a sore thumb and I've never really been able to connect with my extended family. Everyone from my generation is either a bougie lib (mostly on my dad's side) or an evangelical (on my mom's side). The car culture there is probably on par, if not just as bad as it is in the US.

its kinda sad that imperialism and neocolonialism created a positive feedback loop wherein third worlders move to western countries for better opportunities and pay with most becoming frothing reactionaries (due to basic class interest) who would kill every single one of their own just for the chance to be accepted as white

not saying your diaspora are like that, obviously. but a lot are.

My issue is being disabled. I rely on a lot of medical supplies daily for stuff I won't gross out the class with. It might be out of the frying pan and into the fire. The first A in "ADA" isn't "Around the world."

You know that sort of thing is why my response to racists saying "don't like it? Just go back to your home country" tends to be so hateful toward them.

The global north sucks but this is my home and I actually literally can't easily go to my parents' home country because I'd fit in even worse. They'd treat me as an outsider there too, and actually with much better grounds because I'd be "the American". Culturally I'm not a fit. Language? I have the comprehension of maybe a 6 month old, if that. Religion? Apostate so that's fantastic. Heat tolerance? I think I would actually just die of heatstroke, and no, AC isn't the solution because brownouts are frequent.

As things have gotten worse I've wondered if I should try to go somewhere else -- if not my parents' home country then another place -- and I always land back on: at least I have friends here and I know the culture and the landscape.

Anyway fuck and fuck

Amen

For real. There's just a level of extra vigilance, and it's weird / upsetting. I've been out walking around and have legit had people gasp in fear as I walked past them even though I wasn't coming up behind them, they should have seen me coming. Am I just spooky? Or is there something else?

::: spoiler Spoiler, for a couple spooky stories about racism and then me rambling on some tangent because thoughts/feelings came up and I'm just not having a good time:

First one:

Many years ago I went to a town not far from where I live, walking around and exploring with my then-partner. It wasn't a small town but it wasn't the big city. It was pretty and it was nice to walk around in a novel area. But something was off.

After a while my partner said "let's go home".

Me: yeah, it's a pretty place and there's more to explore but something just feels weird and I'm kind of on edge. Not sure what it is.

Them: Really? I thought you'd figured it out already

Me: What?

Them: I'm white, you're not, and we are the only interracial couple I've seen here at all. People are looking at us, that's why I want to get out of here while there's still some light.

Me, a young dumbass: Oh that's why it feels weird. Well I don't like that but we have the right to walk around, nobody's going to mess with us and if they do I know how to fight, let's just keep exploring.

Them: Yeah, you think the cops here will let you get away with "they were racist and started it, it was self defense"? Ever heard of a sundown town?

Me: yeah but I'm not black.

Them: You think racists care? Come on, I grew up in the country, we're leaving.

And they grabbed my hand and led me to the car. We're in a blue state. This wasn't even the sticks, not really. Also come to think of it racists can be incredibly bad at guessing people's race, I've been called the N word by white people and been so dumbfounded because like... they clearly aren't sending their best and brightest to racist school to figure out which slurs to use.

**Second one: **

And I guess I can't blame it on just being sort of outside the city because another time we were in the city browsing separately and some employee just kept pestering me, specifically me, asking "can I help you find anything" which made it harder for me to browse and take in the sights to see if I wanted anything. Until that partner came by, said "they're with me, we're just browsing", and then stayed right by my side while we browsed for a while longer. I found a box of gluten free scone mix that looked really cool and wanted to buy it, but that partner whispered in my ear "just buy it online, I don't want to get anything from here, I'll tell you when we're outside, keep browsing and don't act suspicious." Well I didn't know what the deal was but if my partner asks me to play along in some subterfuge I do it no questions asked until such time as we can debrief. When we got a ways away, they explained.

Them: "that lady was being really racist to you so I don't think we should pay their business any money."

Me, oblivious: Racist? how? I think I'd have noticed.

Them: Come on, she followed you specifically to keep an eye on you. Not me. Not anyone else in the store. Specifically you. Why do you think that is? I mean you dress a little shabby but you don't look homeless, which is the only other reason someone would think you were going to steal stuff.

Me: ooooooh... Wow I am not great at noticing this kind of racism am I? It's so much tamer than what I'm used to that it doesn't even register.

Dang, processing out loud do I miss them even though it's been years since we split, and even longer since they were like that. They were way more based than I realized for a while before idk what liberal brainworms got them. Probably just the fact that they were, fundamentally, a white liberal, and as white liberalism moved hard to the right or its contradictions got exposed, that influenced them too. Well, and I suppose when tumblr banned porn and they quit it in protest there went their biggest source of regularly reading anything remotely progressive other than my own facebook posts.

Life is really weird isn't it. :::

Unrelated but that new pfp is swag af

Oh lord, wtf, it was worse than I expected

Bad day to have eyes.

I forgot about him doing blackface, but its pretty telling that he got pulled for criticizing Trump and not for this.

He did a lot of things on the Man show that would get him cancelled today

They've been using that for Haitian immigrants already.

on a somewhat similar topic, I've noticed something about right wingers, they genuinely tie political beliefs to how a person looks, they act surprised when a white cis male doesn't like Charlie Kirk and hates feminists and minorities, and it's what makes Kamala and other marginalized racists even more pathetic because this logic also applies to them. it's writing books for the illiterate.

And they putting him side by side with MLK A man he literally shat on If this populace were anymore brainwashed they'd be a tyranid hivemind

Never ask a white male feminist his opinion about third world countries

I hope best for you

Same in mine, but it’s especially true because our area is so young even by the country’s average. Average age in my department is only two years off of Gaza’s.

I'm sorry that cracker treated you like that. There's good clinics and therapists out there but it takes effort to find them and it takes extra effort to find them when marginalized and then it takes extra extra effort to find them in places that are full of CHUDs. I hope you can find someone who's actually a good fit because a good therapist can save lives, but a bad therapist is worse than no therapist at all

I'm fortunate the clinic I go to has a lot of PoC so the staff is at least experienced dealing with racism issues (if not PoC themselves). I do notice that white counselors often have blind spots, even when they're actively trying not to.

Evo will be vindicated. Arce was such a snake and everyone tried to pretend he was not

Everyone guasnos hate is a narco president now. A family member had been talking about how Colombian guanos were talking about how Petro brought MS13 (???) to Colombia and is using them to kill critics. Absolutely laughable shit, you'd think we're at the height of the War on Drugs.

Only drugs I will do is weed I grow myself

Huh that's funny - I actually have that book online to read. I might wanna read with you.

Wait, whose family had slaves?

xvx gang

Reading Wikipedia:

Black fatigue is a term used to describe black people in the United States who are experiencing psychological and physical problems caused by various factors including systemic racism. The term was invented by writer Mary Frances Winters in 2020 when she published a book in which the term was first used.

Ok this makes sense and hell I feel that even as a different marginalized race, once again we got black writers coming up with incisive analysis of racism. What's the problem?

The term was co-opted by right-wing individuals in 2025 and defined by them as a feeling of "fatigue" when interacting with black people.

We gotta drop these s into the ocean

Wyppl r seriously on 1

in action... fuck. Glad he was able to get away, but it just hurts thinking of all the people who haven't been so lucky.

Roger Waters has been vindicated so hard

::: spoiler Got hit with the pokemon line, had you followed up might have gotten to choose from 3 starters. Real tho sorry you had to deal with her :::

On this note I will tell the people I love I love them more often and try not to isolate myself online as much for my online friends and anyone here who'd call me a friend so as to not worry that I got disappeared.

gusanostra

That's good un! Wait...

Shit, I forgot to read more of that other book "Fort Bragg Cartel" stuff - I think I reached less than 1/3 of the book, a few days ago, and that's my progress as of yet -

now, forgive for this remark, but I'm starting to see why the Taliban seemed like a lesser evil, compared to the corrupt patronage of poppy selling and compradorism coming from the anti-Taliban mujahideen and US and its other NATO forces, and Afghanistan wasn't a good war at all

Please feel free to tell me how cleaver I am, I be reading 100 pages a day recently

Well, I don't think so, imho.

you got it!

crackers live in an alternative dimension where the n-word is "just a word," but tweets about hating white people is some serious major crisis that needs to be urgently addressed