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Episode 325: #211 Cybernetic Socialism For The 21st Century From Alpha To Omega podcast

https://player.fm/series/from-alpha-to-omega/episode-325-211-cybernetic-socialism-for-the-21st-century

About 50 minutes

Talking about how Marx/Engels didn't describe their alternative to capitalism in detail, about central planning and alternatives to that.

Basically advocating for labour-time calculation and independent workplaces over Gosplan, on cybernetic and Marxist grounds.

I'll have to listen a 2nd time to really get it.

plinky [he/him] - 10mon

you can listen to reading book series for full meandering exploration meow-tankie. I do feel like there is middle ground of let the thousands plans bloom for solved commodities (like steel or copper) just get required grades and quantities from other producers and do that) and/or logistics.

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